RE:RE:WHo is a Terrorist=Who kills Common Innocent Public
by usman karim on Jul 07, 2007 11:00 PM Permalink
Dear Sadaf
You have written,Rajiv was becasue of this or that........... You have written,Indira was because of this or that .......... But this and that also applies in all london blast and 9/11 attack. Please try to understand this.
RE:WHo is a Terrorist=Who kills Common Innocent Public
by Sadaf Kapoor on Jul 07, 2007 10:57 PM Permalink
usman Rajeev and Indira got killed..but that doesnt mean ou will kill 1000's of Non-muslims...
What I mentioned was that WHoever kills innocent ppl are terrorists.. Jehadi want to destroy all non-Muslims and then they will fight on Shia-Sunny ..Basically they wanna kill and get killed..
RE:abu ibrahim
by Abu Ibrahim on Jul 07, 2007 10:37 PM Permalink
No Nikhil, I believe in a healthy debate, where a common platform entitles everyone to air their opinions in a healthy manner. But the only condition being, the person who enters the discussion must exhibit a MINIMUM common sense and a STANDARD education. We are not kindergarten kids Nikhil who abuse each other and belittle each others religion/opinions/views. If one cant respect another one's rights, then he or she is better off sitting at home.
RE:abu ibrahim
by deetee on Jul 07, 2007 10:56 PM Permalink
you should use your energies to neutralise the hateful propoganda emanating from a small number of mullahs. many muslims keep shouting that all muslims are not terrorists, that is true but you should also shout within the community that those who are terrorists are not Muslim. these messages will be especially powerful coming from muslim celebrities and clergy. there are a few mullahs shouting that muslims should go on jihad there should be a much larger of muslims shouting that muslims should follow the law. unless the bad elements are not neutralised by the community people like khaleels family will have to endure the pain and shame of being a terrorists relative.
RE:abu ibrahim
by shekhar parihar on Jul 07, 2007 11:32 PM Permalink
ok abu tell me how these elements can be neutrilized? Its only when if the community to which thy belong will discard them and bring them infront of law .Regarding bomb blast, its not new that happened in hyderabad, its happening all over india previously-delhi, banaras, assam, kashmir,mumbai. And these people will never think abt the people, their community, religion.They'll keep using people and playing with their sentiments. And if u think that they are wrong and can do some favor for community and country, try to explain people in ur community -be law abiding and live in peace. And same thing for all of us too-whetherhindu, sikh, christian.....Rem, if something goes wrong, bad name comes first to a country then community and to the family.For kashmir, there is only one peaceful solution and its- whatever india and pakistan having portion of kashmir, let it me as it is, status que and live in peace-its also a part of partition that happened in 1947.Live and let them live!!!PEACE
RE:abu ibrahim
by shekhar parihar on Jul 07, 2007 11:25 PM Permalink
ok abu tell me how these elements can be neutrilized? Its only when if the community to which thy belong will discard them and bring them infront of law .Regarding bomb blast, its not new that happened in hyderabad, its happening all over india previously-delhi, banaras, assam, kashmir,mumbai. And these people will never think abt the people, their community, religion.They'll keep using people and playing with their sentiments. And if u think that they are wrong and can do some favor for community and country, try to explain people in ur community -be law abiding and live in peace. And same thing for all of us too-whetherhindu, sikh, christian.....Rem, if something goes wrong, bad name comes first to a country then community and to the family.For kashmir, there is only one peaceful solution and its- whatever india and pakistan having portion of kashmir, let it me as it is, status que and live in peace-its also a part of partition that happened in 1947.Live and let them live!!!PEACE
RE:abu ibrahim
by umesh bajpai on Jul 07, 2007 11:38 PM Permalink
thats true my friend, we are first of all are human beings...and religion comes afterwards...we r brothers....hindu..muslim..sikh ...isai....truly bhai bhai...
I really wonder muslims havent condemned all this so far.Indian muslims must disown such people.But as I know and feel such people are given shelter in houses or mosques.I dont say all muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are muslims and it is a well known fact.So indian muslims come out of that mindset and expose such people.Terrorism has no religion.Bring such people to book so that other religions trust you and integerate into main stream and people in India or abroad dont lable Indians or suspect Indians.
RE:United Kingdom terror plot.............
by Vasanth Srinivas on Jul 08, 2007 12:28 AM Permalink
Muslims will never dare to "Fatwa" for khafeel. But they will "Fatwa" Salmaan Rushde.
RE:ALL INDIANS SHOULD UNITE, DALIT PROBLEMS SHOULD BE SETTLED, BEFORE WE CAN TAKE ON THE DEVIL ISLAM!!!
by Abu Ibrahim on Jul 07, 2007 10:49 PM Permalink
Islamic criminals killed 10 million innocent peace loving Buddhists along with 100 million other Indians...
If only Mr Fact Finder could brief us all on where/when/how he got such figures.
For starts, I blame the media for coining the word Islamic terrorists. Because a terrorist can never belong to any community of the world. His motives can be personal/political/financial etc but never one of peace/harmony/love. His methods too are deprived of any religious teachings. He or she has her own rules and regulations. I can give you a perfect example. Who killed Rajiv Gandhi? Do you call then Hindu Terrorists? Who killed Indira Gandhi? Do you call them Sikh Terrorists?
Terrorism is a true evil, a disease - CANCER - and rather than labeling the disease as Islamic Cancer or stuff media savvy names, let's join hands in erradicating this from the face of the Earth.
RE:Who is a terrorist?
by Indian Analyst on Jul 07, 2007 10:39 PM Permalink
Abu Ibrahim, It is the fault of the terrorists. They are fighting in the name of Islam and for the glory of Allah.
People who killed Rajiv Gandhi did not kill in the name of shiva, vishnu or brahma !!!!
Again, the Islamic terrorists are finding their inspiration from the Koran (by gross misinterpretation). So, they are bringing a bad name to Islam.
RE:Who is a terrorist?
by Sadaf Kapoor on Jul 07, 2007 10:40 PM Permalink
Abu- Dnt repeat the dialogues of Pseudo seculars and Javed-Shabana.. I can clear this in 3 Statements..
Rajeev was killed bcoz he was follish to send Indian army to meddle in affairs of SL and Tamils.. His fol0ish act led to so many innocent army personnel die... Indira was killed bcoz she did Mushaarf (more than that) In Golden temple( like lal masjid).. Leave aside politicans ..Some day Sonia laloo Advani may get killed by some any fanatic.. Question is about common Man.
1. Why are the bomb blasts always happen in the areas where most or all of the persons are Hindus or majority... Why not In Nizaamudin.SeelamPur,Kurla or Mira Road??// Why are only Sikhs and Hindus killed in Kashmir..?? Why do most of the Bomb blasts happen during Diwali Not Eid?? Do you need some more facts??? Why are most of the terrorist(Terrorist=Who kills innocent public) Muslim???????
RE:Who is a terrorist?
by on Jul 07, 2007 11:27 PM Permalink
Dear Abu, I completely agree with you with the last statement. We can call Hindu Terrorists and Sikh Terrorists etc. It is natural that human begins make mistakes but it is unnatural that if they do not correct mistakes and look forward. CHANGE IS FUNCTION OF TIME, NOTHING IS CONSTANT ON THIS WORLD. I personally beleave that most of the religions change according to time except ISLAM. How can we apply the centuries back rules and regulations to the present day societies.Hindus used to have "sati" but it is no more, it is officially banned.Initially western women donot have voting rights, but now they have equal rights!!!!
I might have appreciated if could have candidly accepted that... ISLAM is great religion BUT mislead by illiterate mullas... ISLAM is great religion but it need a bit flexibility... ISLAM is great religion but need to focus on country specific rather than universal ISLAM.For example present Indian problem is over population , but how can we say that we do not follow family planing, because it is not permitted in ISLAM????
ISLAM is great but need introspect rather than pointing fingers to others...
I hope you understand it and educate other Muslim brothers.
RE:Who is a terrorist?
by Nikhil P on Jul 07, 2007 10:40 PM Permalink
terrorist belongs to any community that shares the same ideology, grooms the terrorist and offers excuses for his violance.
RE:New concept-Indianism-A new religion for INDIANS
by roopak bhargava on Jul 07, 2007 10:30 PM Permalink
Its not like that nikhil! We have to do this for our development otherwise we all(Indians) will be consumed by these petty issues.Some strict actions shall only make this possible.Any muslim brother on this concept?
RE:New concept-Indianism-A new religion for INDIANS
by pradeep rakholia on Jul 07, 2007 10:37 PM Permalink | Hide message
evry indian knew that they are indian but religon is main hindrance, religon has sepreted all of them, so need to kick out to all of religon from the country & world then for what ppl will be have dispute
RE:RE:New concept-Indianism-A new religion for INDIANS
by Nikhil P on Jul 07, 2007 10:44 PM Permalink
then people have disputes over nationality as the original poster wants indianness be enforced in india.
RE:RE:RE:New concept-Indianism-A new religion for INDIANS
by roopak bhargava on Jul 07, 2007 10:46 PM Permalink
Indianness primarily shall mean freedom to obey any religion,caste,region which shal be a solution to every problem in itself!
RE:what
by Abu Ibrahim on Jul 07, 2007 10:24 PM Permalink
Abhishek, My friend, I dont understand the logic behind you asking - Why No Muslim is Against such Attacks.
Of course we are. What do you take us for? As people who cant differentiate between right and wrong? See for starters, this is an international issue. Before we begin to make up our opinions, let's give UK, who are the unfortunate victims of the ghastly attack, to make sense of the situation. Let's not allows ourselves to jump into conclusion. At this point of time we are not even sure, what is the motive behind all this. May be it is something that is within the country. Let's not simply leap into things.
RE:what
by Sadaf Kapoor on Jul 07, 2007 10:23 PM Permalink
What are your views on Dawood Afzal and likes.. Dnt give an excuse of Gujarat..These bl00dy enuchs were playing with innocents bloods long b4 that....
