RE:All religious books preach peace
by kabir ahmed on Jul 07, 2007 11:15 AM Permalink
i dont think so dude............. i havnt come across such a verse as yet.................
RE:All religious books preach peace
by Bhaskar Srinivasan on Jul 07, 2007 11:24 AM Permalink
Depends on how you interpret! an example below.
"...slay the idolaters wherever you find them...take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush" Excerpt K 9:005 Set 33, Count 91
Please read the Rediff. first article about in which they interviewd Khafeel's parents who both are doctors.All people in Blog were not in confident if their son is guilty or not but her mother answer about the fundamentalist was shocking. when rediff asked if your son is fundamentalist, she told"who is not fundamentalist everybody is the fundamentalist?"and that time I realised that there must be something.
I still apeal all muslim borthers..please open your eyes....see the education of this guy and his parents..dont try to make fool to the world that son is planning wrong thing and his educated parenst are not awared about it. I strongly believe good muslim people should come forward and try to establish good example by boycotting his entire family socially...but I know..nobody will come forward.....and again same thing...
See the case of Lal masjid.How many sucide bombers are there?..i dont understand..these poeple dont have any thing to do good for society?
Well, Khafeel Ahmed, studied in Karnataka, was brought up on tapes of Gujarat riots, Babri demolition and what not, did a PhD in England, and fire bombed Glasgow. What a logical trajectory?
In most of the countries, muslims are minorities & poor people and they tend feel bit insecured to live with rich majority people, so it is the responsibility of majorites to make them feel secured and bring them the much needed feel good factor. ur views welcomed
RE:Minority
by vikas chawla on Jul 07, 2007 10:57 AM Permalink
I m very happy that MR F H has asked for everybodies views. i wd like every muslim to forget that they are being treated like Minorities in India. U are biggest vote bank puller for the politicians,people like Mulyam Singh,Sonia Gandhi,Communists and Mayawati stoop to any level to appease the minority communities.It was politicians who had forced the sub continent into a partition resulting in India,pakistan & Bangladesh. U are talking abt feeling insecured in india,i presume this is the safest place for all communities be it Hindus,Muslims,Christians etc. What abt Muslims in Pakistan,Afganistan,indonesia ,UAE.They treat Hindus like dogs.I would therefore request u to please rethink ur mind abt being considered as Minorities and live with the Majority community with love.Jihad will not fetch u anything except for the world coming to an end and infact nobody surving. Ok ,tell me what does a suicide bomber do?kill himself & 15-20 people alongwith him,gain some publicity & hatred & miserable life for his survivors.Does this help?but he leaves behind a touch of hatred against the Muslim community in the eyes of teh world & they are seen as the biggest enemy to the world. I suppose there are only 2 dangers to the world at present,Muslims terrorism & Global Warming. GOd save the world.
RE:Minority
by Sameer Akotkar on Jul 07, 2007 10:42 AM Permalink
I am poorer than Tata Birla's or Infy & Wipro giant. I am poorer than my cousin brother & own brother at least by 3 times.In India and Arab contries they have number of wives I have only "ONE". Lot of Muslims allow more child, I have only One. But I still feel more Rich by Heart due to good preachings by my "Sanatan Dharma". i am practising Yoga to keep my self cool and belive in "Sarve bhawantu Sukhinaha".I will request you (my dear Hindustani friend & brother "f h") to follow me. Give up your rediculous thoughts (of killing others on the name of Religion).Don't speak politics. Why you don't do this by seeing so many hindu brothers & Sisters getting killed and raped in KASHMIR & BANGLADESH. So what do you think whether i should also start this against the community of kashmir since they are doing this to my brother and sisters there? YOU MENTALLY COWERED (Not stong mentally)please follow the Dharma of Hindustani. Give up your hatred thoughts. Improve your community by hard work and education not by pleading like a begger
RE:Minority
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 07, 2007 10:36 AM Permalink
What common man has Quoted is avaible in Timeof India , Times International Page in today edition and on jagran.com
RE:Minority
by tarun gandher on Jul 07, 2007 11:10 AM Permalink
IT WOULD BE ENTIRLY WRONG TO BLAME ON ANY RELEGION. NO RELEGION TEACHES HATE AND FUNDAMENALISM. IT IS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL THAT HOW HE OR SHE ADOPT IT AND INTREPRET ITS TEACHINGS. NEITHER KORAN NOR ISLAM PREACHES THAT GO AND KILL SOME ON THE ANME OF GOD. I AM HINDU BUT HAVE READED ALMOST ALL HOLY BOOKS AND I HAVE FOUND NOT A SINGLE WIRD ON KILLING INNOCENT PERSONS ON THE NAME OF JIHAD. AS PER KURAN JIHAD IS THE FIGHT WITH THE ENEMY WITHIN A PERSON WHO FOLLOWS ISLAM, NOT WITH THE PERSON OF OTHER RELEGION.JIHAD MENT FOR OVERCOMING YOUR OWN WEAKNESS AND TO FOLLOW THE TRUE PATH. THE JIHAD THAT IS GOING ON AS CLAIMED BY EVERYONE IS BARBERISM AND IT HAS NO PLACE IN ANY OF THE HOLY BOOKS. BLAMING ENTIRE COMMUNITY DUE TO INDIVIDUALS MAY BE WRONG. AFTER ALL MANY MUSLIMS HAVE LOST THEIR LIFE IN FREEDOM WAR. BAHDUR SHAH WAS MUSLIM AND HE SACRIFICED EVERY THING INCLUDING HIS SONS. CAPTIN MULLAH WAS MUSLIM BUT DID EVERY ONE HAS FORGOT ABOUT INS KHUKHRI? WHAT ABOUT PARAM VEER CHAKRA WINNER CAPTIN ABDUL HAMID, HE WAS LASO MUSLIM. SO YOU SEE NOW THEY ARE THE PERSON WHOM I CALLED TRUE MUSLIMS WITH THEIR FAITH AS SOLID AS PURITY OF GOD. INDIVIDUALS SO CALLED JIHADIS OR JIHADIS GRIUPS ARE MAKING OTHER FOOL ON THE NAME OF JIHAD, GOD OR KURAN.
ANY VIEW IS MOST WELCOME BECOUSE I DONT THINK I HAVE WRITTEN ANY THING WRONG.
RE:Minority
by ajaykumar Vyomakesan on Jul 07, 2007 11:31 AM Permalink
My dear indian hindus are a very big heart, thats why Abdul kalam become the President of India. nobody objected. He have so respect in every indian. But today the scenario is different. The people who should show the right direction of their holly book, misleading the younger generation in the name of jihad and 99% falling in the water and leading to flood it.
Problem is that the Koran promotes 2 undesirable things: collectivism and extra-territorialism. People residing in India should put Indian society and interests first, people residing in UK should put UK society first. Muslims claim that Islam commands them to be loyal to the countries where they live, but their conduct and actions reveal the absolute opposite. How come no Hindus are suicide bombing the UK, USA, Spain, etc? There is not even one Hindu suicide bombing in Pakistan! NOT ONE! Time for Muslims to promote critical thinking -- they must learn to criticize themselves. Muslims don't like to be criticized by others, but unless they learn to criticize themselves more, then others will be forced to criticize them.
RE:Muslims Have No Self-Criticism
by ABDULLAH FAROOQUE KHAN on Jul 07, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
My friend u only see what media makes u see the terrorism that is prevelant throughtout the world in only due to present of certains members which r unfortunately members of christanity ,zionism,hinduism,look what bush is doing in the world , look what jews r doing in palestine, look what hindus have done to muslims of india , when u search for wrong solution then problem arises, hindus must make sure that no terrorism from their community will happen like wise christians and jews must assure the world,otherwise if we make cry for only western values and no sympathy for muslims then it will only create panic
RE:Muslims Have No Self-Criticism
by salman khan on Jul 07, 2007 10:53 AM Permalink
for a MUSLIM ,,ISLAM come first even islam is beloved for him more then his parents and family, Yes its true that Islam teaches about loyal to country but that comes after the religion, and this depends upon what country you are living and what country's government did to you and your community...i hope this words will open your eyes and rest can be understood. about hindi suicide bombers open your eyes and look around whats happening..even they are suicide bombers and they are killing for a small state and villages level ,( MR.Rajiv Ghandi's death was simple example this) ...hope understand this.before pointing and belaming others..
RE:Muslims Have No Self-Criticism
by Kumar on Jul 07, 2007 10:51 AM Permalink
I am not in full agreement of what you say. Although I am a hindu by birth, and simply do not beleive in pseudo secularism, practised by some political parties, terrorist have no relegion but are driven by evil ideology. The suicide bomber Dhanu of LTTE who assainated our ex prime minister Mr.Rajiv Gandhi is a Hindu. A lot of negative and evil preachings go in to the making of a terrorist as seen from this article, either in in the name of religion or overstating and exagerating events during a genocide.
RE:To all Pseudo Secularists !
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 07, 2007 10:33 AM Permalink
KC, donot join but keep befooling till u prepare your self to kill all non believers
Khaleef has reserved his place in Jannat as per Quran
RE:To all Pseudo Secularists !
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 07, 2007 10:45 AM Permalink
KC, condemn Quranic verses which preaches hatred towards non believers if u are really serious
RE:To all Pseudo Secularists !
by KC on Jul 07, 2007 10:47 AM Permalink
Vinay I am also Hindu , so I cannot say what is taught in Quran. But definately I condemn the teachings (brainwashing) of people like Khaleef in name of Gjrat/Iraq or whatever.
Yes it is true that most (almost all) are Muslims, but more muslims are also normal people like us so why to blame entire community ?
There is fundamentally wrong with the preaching and interpretation of islam. I have spent best part of my life with muslims in kashmir and I can vouch those were the most peaceful years of my life. But one day all of a sudden we had to migrate leaving all we had in our homeland. The same people with home we had most crdial relations rejoiced at our leaving. The same people looted and burned our property. It still haunts me even after more than two decades of my migration. How come this change of sudden mindset to insanity and barbarism. Time has come when moderate muslims has to come out of their shell and speak against the fundamental elements and their deeds.
RE:something wrng with preaching of islam
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 07, 2007 10:28 AM Permalink
Ashok ji, Teaching of Islam is wrong. If teaching wrong then interpretaion shall also be on same line. Islam is time tested. Throughout its history its behaviour remained the same. But Hindu have short memory so history repeats for them
RE:something wrng with preaching of islam
by ABDULLAH FAROOQUE KHAN on Jul 07, 2007 10:48 AM Permalink
Again a main made by media do u have read anything about islam ,for authentic information read www.understand-islam.net www.irf.net
