we can give our lives when it comes to honour that is the reason People from other Communites are scared of us. Take the case of Pakistan Cricket team and Hockey team.Inspite of having not so good players we crush Indians in all sports.Akhtars pace makes Indian team wet in their pants. You guys play for money we play for our country
RE:Muslims are the most courageos Communites in the World
by sridhar gorantla on Jul 05, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
Its good to be courageous, but at the same time, it should be take care that ones courage should not be misused by fellow muslims for their selfishness. As far as I know of religion, it is for the human beings, but not humans for the religion. Most of the advocates of islam donot really really really know by way of experience of what is told in islam. They only know the stuff by byhearting the holy book, but not have any personal experience of the ALL PERVADING GOD OR ALLAH OR HEAVENLY FATHER OR PARAMATMA e.t.c. This is the cause for the troubles. To know ALLAH OR GOD, all one needs is unconditional love or attitude to treat others same as oneself.
RE:Muslims are the most courageos Communites in the World
by sridhar gorantla on Jul 05, 2007 12:29 PM Permalink
If your courage is misused, then you will have to fac the consequences if it harms others. You will have to pay for it for not using your courage or any other good quality that you have for doing good to other humans. After all, Humanity or treating others same as oneself is of highest value in this world than anything else, including even religion.
RE:Muslims are the most courageos Communites in the World
by nagesh subramanya on Jul 05, 2007 04:47 PM Permalink
By spreading terror across the world, that too for money, you are telling, you people do it for honour. Nonsense.
RE:Muslims are the most courageos Communites in the World
by debmalya mitra on Jul 05, 2007 12:50 PM Permalink
is that the reason that ur so great cricket team got kicked out of the world cup by losing to team like ireland and then u guyz killed ur own coach cuz he caught ur so great players involved in not so great activities?
RE:Muslims are the most courageos Communites in the World
by Omega on Jul 05, 2007 01:01 PM Permalink | Hide message
What nonsense are you talking about. There is no way you can compare Pakistan with India. India has moved ahead in every sphere. Pakistan is still stuck where it was in 1947 - look at the sectarian violence, look at the state of the economy, look at your states like Baluchistan and NWFP, which today is in the same state when Adam & Eve first descended on this earth. If it had not been for Indian patritism - you wouldn't have been thrown out of kashmir in 1948 (in fact the whole region except for that silly fellow Nehru who rushed to All India Radio to announce a unilateral ceasefire), remember 1965 - you were crushed in Khem Karan and 1971, when you lost your Chanddi too, i.e. Bangladesh
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RE:Muslims are the most courageos Communites in the World
by Vishal Saxena on Jul 05, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
Pakis are really most courageous people. Never in history one will find any instance where an army of more than 80,000 soldiers surrendered to save their lives without fighting as Pakis did. May be they consider surrendering as sign of courage.
RE:Muslims are the most courageos Communites in the World
by Srinivas on Jul 05, 2007 12:29 PM Permalink
JUST SHUT UP. Just remember a fact that India has defeated Pakistan in all the Cricket World cups so far. You ignorant moron....
RE:Muslims are the most courageos Communites in the World
by Pratik Punjabi on Jul 05, 2007 12:51 PM Permalink
So ?
We have crushed your ARMY four times since 1947. We have defeated you in every cricket match played in any World cup series. Check ur facts before opening your stinking mouth.
RE:RE:Muslims are the most courageos Communites in the World
by Mr BALAJI on Jul 05, 2007 12:22 PM Permalink
you for got world cup defeats by India were Sachin has destroyed paki and Akthar
RE:Muslims are the most courageos Communites in the World
by Lohith on Jul 05, 2007 12:24 PM Permalink
Thats why your mulla tried to escape from the mosque yesterday wearing a burqa...very courageous..
RE:RE:RE:RE:Muslims are the most courageos Communites in the World
by nice on Jul 05, 2007 01:13 PM Permalink
atul pandy, aur tum log sab ke aage jhukte ho. kitni baar constipation door karte ho. you diarrhoe...
RE:Muslims are the most courageos Communites in the World
by jayasimha on Jul 05, 2007 01:02 PM Permalink
why bother replying to this fanatic---let him enter the pearly gates and get his redemption.
RE:Muslims are the most courageos Communites in the World
by Gita Yeshwanth on Jul 05, 2007 12:26 PM Permalink
DONT FORGET YOU WERE A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY (HINDU) BEFORE FORCIBLY CONVERTED.
WHEN YOU DEBATE ,LIMIT YOURSELF TO THE ARTICLES AGENDA.
Talibinazation of PAKISTAN is More concentrated on its eastern Boarders.The governing military sustains itself on talibization by helping them,to make a frankinstien for global consumption.
Lets be clear friends, with the kind of tone in this forum, WE are perpertrating hatred amound communities.....
Ok so given, Islam has issues, but so has all religions; there is a weakness in every system. Hypocrisy is rampant in most faiths, and is practised by most religious teachers!!
So fine; we have an issue, but interestingly, noone has a solution, we are all badgering the religion and the faith and quoting verses from religious texts, but where is the solution??!!!
So what we are all suggesting, is that we keep fighting amond ourselves and keep killing or get killed?!! Is that a solution???!!
What happens to largers issues like Global warming, poverty, diseases, politics, literacy etc etc etc; its almost like we have solved all troubles and have only Islam or any other religion to sort out?!!
Can anyone come out with a solution or are we going to continue this 'kill the infidels' policy??!!
RE:Lets have a solution....
by howisthat on Jul 05, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
first u need to be alive to faight against allthose poverty,global warming e.t.c ..kaffirs will not be allowed to live by islamict's ....
RE:Lets have a solution....
by mohammad ibrahim on Jul 05, 2007 12:42 PM Permalink
Dear Pavan where are you living yaar, what you and me will say nobody will be interested. There is no place of rational thinking people like u or me in this forum, this forum it seems is created to spread hatred among the communities, if you are me use abusive language for each other, hundreds of fanatics from every religion will join us, if you and me write like these nobody will respond.
The purpose of this message is to spread the Real teachings of Quran:
That they visited Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri and asked him about Al-Harauriyya, a special unorthodox religious sect, "Did you hear the Prophet saying anything about them?" Abu Sa'id said, "I do not know what Al-Harauriyya is, but I heard the Prophet saying, "There will appear in this nation--he did not say: From this nation-- a group of people so pious apparently that you will consider your prayers inferior to their prayers, but they will recite the Quran, the teachings of which will not go beyond their throats and will go out of their religion as an arrow darts through the game(i.e. they will have not even a trace of Islam in them).
RE:Hypocrites - they will have not even a trace of Islam in them
by pavan karimbil on Jul 05, 2007 12:03 PM Permalink
In a number of carefully controlled trials, scientists have demonstrated >that if we drink 1 liter of water each day, at the end of the year we >would have absorbed more than 1 kilo of Escherichia Coli (E-Coli) >bacteria found in feces. In other words, we are consuming 1 kilo of >Poop. > >However, we do not run that risk when drinking wine, vodka, whiskey, >beer or other liquor because alcohol has to go through a purification >process of boiling, filtering and/or fermenting. Remember: > >Water = Poop >Booze = Health > >Therefore, it's better to drink booze and talk stupid, than to drink >water and be full of s--t. > >There's no need to thank me for this valuable information; I'm doing it >as a public service.
God is the permanently unknowable region even for the intelligence enriched with science and logic.
The Universe is infinite with unimaginable beginning and unimaginable end. This means the cause from which the Universe started and the same cause in which the Universe ends on dissolution is the unimaginable God. Mud is the beginning stage of the pot and also the end stage since the pot ends in the mud on destruction. The Universe exhibits the unimaginable God by its unimaginable limits of beginning and end. The space is generated from God and the dissolution of space can only show the real nature of its cause (God).
When the chain is dissolved in fire, then only the gold lump, which is the cause of the chain, appears in its original form. But even if you imagine for millions of years, you can never imagine the dissolution of space and therefore you can never imagine the original nature of God. God is beyond space and God is the permanently unknowable region even for the intelligence enriched with science and logic.
Hence, God is a permanent wonder and the creation consists of some knowable regions of knowledge without any wonder and also some temporarily unimaginable regions with temporary wonder. Now the word Maya can be used for the wonder, which is both permanent (God) and which is temporary also (the deeper layers of the world up to the space).
RE:God is the permanently unknowable region even for the intelligence enriched with science and logic
by Atal Bhikari Vajpayee on Jul 05, 2007 11:52 AM Permalink
crap
RE:God is the permanently unknowable region even for the intelligence enriched with science and logic
by pavan karimbil on Jul 05, 2007 12:03 PM Permalink
Anil Dude, can you Dattaswami dude, sort out Lal Masjid issue....we will then talk..:D
RE:God is the permanently unknowable region even for the intelligence enriched with science and logic
by pavan karimbil on Jul 05, 2007 11:55 AM Permalink
Dude, you have the wrong forum....this is a solution forum and not 'Dattaswami' (whatever's) site to preach stuff!!
RE:God is the permanently unknowable region even for the intelligence enriched with science and logic
by RATIONALIST on Jul 05, 2007 12:05 PM Permalink
Yeah man, I too think so that this is a real crap.
One of my friend wanted me to put this crap on rediff.com for debate to see how the enlightened members of rediff.com react to this ...
RE:God is the permanently unknowable region even for the intelligence enriched with science and logic
by sridhar gorantla on Jul 05, 2007 12:16 PM Permalink
TELL YOUR FRIEND THAT THOSE WHO EXPERIENCED(even for a split second) THE ALL PERVADING DIVINITY (OR GOD OR ALLAH OR HEAVENLY FATHER OR UNIVERSAL POWER) ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT HE MEAN BY. No one else can understand this stuff. To understand or toeven to know GOD or too solve the so called mystery of the univers, creation, life, death e.t.c one has to calm down their mind by any available means, like by way of Prayers, bhajans, Yoga, meditation, unselfish work or service to others e.t.c. Afterall, calmed down mind is a must to even solve day to day problems that an average individual faces in life. Then, how can one solve such complex problems with a disturbed mind. One who calms down their mind can easily starts understanding the world easily and will free self from the bondages of the world.
RE:God is the permanently unknowable region even for the intelligence enriched with science and logic
by sridhar gorantla on Jul 05, 2007 12:04 PM Permalink
GOOD ONE. But, at an individual level, everyone who doesnot realize this truth that the world is just the dream of the divinity, just like a movie, in which characters are coming and going and only the light that projects the movie being the constant. GOD or all pervading divinity that exists in everyone and in everywhere is the only constant and everything else is maya. An individual who gets involved with the maya by way of body senses and mind(the sense above body senses) and forgets his/her original state of the state of all pervading divinity is under the bondage of the creation. Those who realize this truth by way of own self-realization that the individual is not limited to a body or mind, but an all pervading divinity or paramatman, is free from the bondage to maya.
TILL THEN, ONE HAS TO SEEK DIRECTION FROM RELIGIOUS SCRIPTURES AND THOSE WHO ALREDY HAVE ATTAINED THIS REALIZATION EITHER TO THE FULL EXTENT OR ATLEAST TO SOME EXTENT.
RE:God is the permanently unknowable region even for the intelligence enriched with science and logic
by Merapi Yogya on Jul 05, 2007 11:54 AM Permalink
Universe is not infinite but finite. God is infinite. Man can know God only if He chooses to reveal himself. So God is knowable.
I dont Understand one thing about these religious terrorists what they actually want,I think the war they want to wage in the name of the religion is stupidity.The reason they claim is nonsense,first of all they should think of peace and stop producing children like animals,they should understand the economical situation of themselves and their country. If you have too many kids with instability situation in the family,to earn the livelyhood,and money they fall into the trap of wrong people who exploit them to be law breakers.The religious leaders have got the sicoligal error in thinkng undoubtedly it is a disease.You capture the young suicide sqaud poeple and ask them they are fighting for what reason I am sure they cannot answer anything because they are innocent youngsters and anpad gawars across the world. The youth should not be exploiteed as terrorists. Like tourism industry even terrorism is also growing as a major industry with lots of money and power,this should be stopped. Not insha allah it should be really stopped.
Lets be clear friends, with the kind of tone in this forum, WE are perpertrating hatred amound communities.....
Ok so given, Islam has issues, but so has all religions; there is a weakness in every system. Hypocrisy is rampant in most faiths, and is practised by most religious teachers!!
So fine; we have an issue, but interestingly, noone has a solution, we are all badgering the religion and the faith and quoting verses from religious texts, but where is the solution??!!!
So what we are all suggesting, is that we keep fighting amond ourselves and keep killing or get killed?!! Is that a solution???!!
What happens to largers issues like Global warming, poverty, diseases, politics, literacy etc etc etc; its almost like we have solved all troubles and have only Islam or any other religion to sort out?!!
Can anyone come out with a solution or are we going to continue this 'kill the infidels' policy??!!
RE:Loud blasts around Lal Masjid
by SLVP on Jul 05, 2007 12:01 PM Permalink
yes if pak rangers hold for another 2 days the insiders will surrender on their own
