...on how to deal with Islamic extremist radicals. A total and unconditional clamp-down should take place on the fundamentalist leaders in the J&K and in the districts of the Bangladesh-border.
RE:India should learn from Pakistan
by pavan karimbil on Jul 04, 2007 04:22 PM Permalink
There will be double standards there as well....when Babri Masjid was brought down, the entire country suffered at the hands of communal forces, innocents lost their lives for the next decade!!
If this kind of action happens in India, in the face of extreme Islamist militants, we wil be the ultimate enemy!! The for the next 20 odd years we will all suffer, be it Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Parsi, Jew etc etc....
Extreme Islamists dont mind if they defile their own shrines, but if for criminal activities being carried out in Mosques, if another community tries to bring order, they will be 'fatwas' issued!!
RE:India should learn from Pakistan
by pavan karimbil on Jul 04, 2007 04:21 PM Permalink
There will be double standards there as well....when Babri Masjid was brought down, the entire country suffered at the hands of communal forces, innocents lost their lives for the next decade!!
If this kind of action happens in India, in the face of extreme Islamist militants, we wil be the ultimate enemy!! The for the next 20 odd years we will all suffer, be it Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Parsi, Jew etc etc....
Extreme Islamists dont mind if they defile their own shrines, but if for criminal activities being carried out in Mosques, if another community tries to bring order, they will be 'fatwas' issued!!
RE:India should learn from Pakistan
by pavan karimbil on Jul 04, 2007 04:19 PM Permalink
There will be double standards there as well....when Babri Masjid was brought down, the entire country suffered at the hands of communal forces, innocents lost their lives for the next decade!!
If this kind of action happens in India, in the face of extreme Islamist militants, we wil be the ultimate enemy!! The for the next 20 odd years we will all suffer, be it Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Parsi, Jew etc etc....
Extreme Islamists dont mind if they defile their own shrines, but if for criminal activities being carried out in Mosques, if another community tries to bring order, they will be 'fatwas' issued!!
RE:India should learn from Pakistan
by marigold on Jul 04, 2007 04:25 PM Permalink
as if you are some kind of a preacher that you will say and they will listen, take a break you cant even influence one person and every month the muslims increase by 3 million.... If you dont have a solution then why rant ? Just relax :-)
Lal Masjid is holy place, what the hell these terrorist doing there??? amazing i request www.7wonders.com to include this to in your worlds 7th wonders.
RE:Maulhana Or Terrorist ?????????
by zakaku on Jul 04, 2007 04:17 PM Permalink
PAK mein in darindo ne kuran-e-sharif aur masjid ko NAPAAK kar diya....
RE:Maulhana Or Terrorist ?????????
by Manav Kumar on Jul 04, 2007 04:28 PM Permalink
tu theek kar aa jakar............kurane pak aur masjid........bahna ki badi chinta ho rahi hai.....apne ghar main means india main jo in logono ne gandh fella rakha hai bo nanhi dikhta..kurane pakkkkkkkkkkk......
RE:Maulhana Or Terrorist ?????????
by Manav Kumar on Jul 04, 2007 04:28 PM Permalink
tu theek kar aa jakar............kurane pak aur masjid........bahna ki badi chinta ho rahi hai.....apne ghar main means india main jo in logono ne gandh fella rakha hai bo nanhi dikhta..kurane pakkkkkkkkkkk......
RE:Coward muslims have reported my message again as tey dont have any answers........lolssss
by Sonu Madhavan on Jul 04, 2007 04:17 PM Permalink
well said abhinav i totaly agree with when Akshardham was attacked we the hindus tolarated it and we did not attacked muslims and when there was a blast in a Masjid in Hyderabad it flamed a riot police have to fire and use force to maintain law and order what these muslims will say on this
RE:Coward muslims have reported my message again as tey dont have any answers........lolssss
by Sanjeev on Jul 04, 2007 04:17 PM Permalink
What explaination are you lookng for???If you have made up your mind that all Muslims are terrorists, then so be it.You are welcome to your stupidity.What makes you think anybody will devote time to correct your stupidity?
RE:Coward muslims have reported my message again as tey dont have any answers........lolssss
by Sanjeev on Jul 04, 2007 04:18 PM Permalink
What explaination are you lookng for???If you have made up your mind that all Muslims are terrorists, then so be it.You are welcome to your stupidity.What makes you think anybody will devote time to correct your stupidity?
RE:Coward muslims have reported my message again as tey dont have any answers........lolssss
by Sonu Madhavan on Jul 04, 2007 04:17 PM Permalink
well said abhinav i totaly agree with when Akshardham was attacked we the hindus tolarated it and we did not attacked muslims and when there was a blast in a Masjid in Hyderabad it flamed a riot police have to fire and use force to maintain law and order what these muslims will say on this
RE:Coward muslims have reported my message as abuse again as they have no answers.........lolssss
by marigold on Jul 04, 2007 04:20 PM Permalink
yesterday i read answers to these...why are you asking again...you have ran out of ideas to spread hate ?
Shame on Musharraf who doesnt have the mettle to act tough against the evil breeding in his own backyard. Jis saanp ke pillo ko doodh pilaya karte the ab woh anaconda ban gaya hai aur pakistan ko hi nigalne ko taiyar hai.....
RE:RE:Who told islam is the fastest growing religion?.
by Abdul Haseeb on Jul 04, 2007 04:55 PM Permalink
Salman Rushdie did not exposed errors and mistakes in Islam and Quran (coz they have none) what he did was in order to achieve whatever he may have been looking for (i dont know that) he misinterpreted the meanings and teachings of Quran and thats why Fatwa was issued against him. Is it not just to kill a person who for his own sake misinterprets and publishes the very base of faith and belief of billions of people across the globe.
Didnt hindus cried foul when the name Krishna or Ram (i dont remember)was used in some not so appropriate advertisement in the USA.
Yes, they did not went to the extent of issuing a Fatwa coz this incident did not in any way contrary to the teachings of their sacred books in which they believe but I certainly know it did created havoc and ultimately that advertisement was withdrawn.
ONE ADVICE FOR YOU DEAR FRIEND, DONT GO ON PERCEPTIONS AND STORIES, IF YOU REALLY WANNA KNOW WHAT QURAN AND ITS TEACHINGS ARE, GO GET A COPY OF QURAN WITH TRANSLATION AND JUST READ IT FULLY.............BUT WITHOUT ANY BIAS AND PREOCCUPATION OF THOUGHTS.......HAVE A GREAT TIMES TO COME !!
RE:Who told islam is the fastest growing religion?.
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jul 04, 2007 04:06 PM Permalink
Dear Sriram,
QUERY - 1:
THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN ISLAM....
If the Option is to Convert to Islam or Kill, means then why are you still alive..
Option-1:
Muslims ruled India for 1000 Years, if your assumption is true means, then all the 90 crore hindus should be dead or converted into Muslim.
Option-2:
If the Hindus were successful in retaliating Muslim Invaders and retained Hinduism, then why there was 1000 Years of Muslim Rule ??
Option-3:
The last assumption is all the Hindus lived a Nomadic life and Hiding for the Muslims... This is also false... Go to any Indian City, you can see the Palace of Muslim Kings near to Hindu Settlements for Centuries..
The Moral of the story is Nobody is compelled to change the Religion... That is why you are here alive and as a Hindu...
Every Hindu in India is a Living Proof that Compulsion is not used...
RE:RE:Who told islam is the fastest growing religion?.
by Billy Zane on Jul 04, 2007 04:34 PM Permalink
mr. chakradhar,
Q 1. jahangir may had killed bikramjit's son(wether correct or not) but it has nothing to do with islam as it is political move, whoever king won the battle he has taken hard steps with his enemy wether it is muslim or pre islamic hindu kings(recent example is execution of saddam by US)
Q 2. why u r condemning ashoka, instead he had united india, yes all other hindu kings were fighting & all bad practices r happening in ur religion at that time. Ghouri was helped by jaidev against prithviraj chauhan, babar was called by rana sanga against ibrahim lodi.
Q 3. conversion was not forceful it was dalit hindus who converted due to attrocities against them, even if today also this conversion is taking place eg; lot many(10000) approx. dalits converted to buddhism recently on ambedkar jayanti in maharashtra
to sum up u simply cant digest that muslims has ruled this country, they mixed up here, changed the culture of country, u ppl consider muslims as invaders without knowing that u r also invaders( aryans). this country actually belong to nomadic dravidians who has been barbarically treated by aryans some 3000-4000 yrs ago
RE:RE:Who told islam is the fastest growing religion?.
by Billy Zane on Jul 04, 2007 04:35 PM Permalink
mr. chakradhar,
Q 1. jahangir may had killed bikramjit's son(wether correct or not) but it has nothing to do with islam as it is political move, whoever king won the battle he has taken hard steps with his enemy wether it is muslim or pre islamic hindu kings(recent example is execution of saddam by US)
Q 2. why u r condemning ashoka, instead he had united india, yes all other hindu kings were fighting & all bad practices r happening in ur religion at that time. Ghouri was helped by jaidev against prithviraj chauhan, babar was called by rana sanga against ibrahim lodi.
Q 3. conversion was not forceful it was dalit hindus who converted due to attrocities against them, even if today also this conversion is taking place eg; lot many(10000) approx. dalits converted to buddhism recently on ambedkar jayanti in maharashtra
to sum up u simply cant digest that muslims has ruled this country, they mixed up here, changed the culture of country, u ppl consider muslims as invaders without knowing that u r also invaders( aryans). this country actually belong to nomadic dravidians who has been barbarically treated by aryans some 3000-4000 yrs ago
RE:Who told islam is the fastest growing religion?.
by Abdul Haseeb on Jul 04, 2007 04:55 PM Permalink
Salman Rushdie did not exposed errors and mistakes in Islam and Quran (coz they have none) what he did was in order to achieve whatever he may have been looking for (i dont know that) he misinterpreted the meanings and teachings of Quran and thats why Fatwa was issued against him. Is it not just to kill a person who for his own sake misinterprets and publishes the very base of faith and belief of billions of people across the globe.
Didnt hindus cried foul when the name Krishna or Ram (i dont remember)was used in some not so appropriate advertisement in the USA.
Yes, they did not went to the extent of issuing a Fatwa coz this incident did not in any way contrary to the teachings of their sacred books in which they believe but I certainly know it did created havoc and ultimately that advertisement was withdrawn.
ONE ADVICE FOR YOU DEAR FRIEND, DONT GO ON PERCEPTIONS AND STORIES, IF YOU REALLY WANNA KNOW WHAT QURAN AND ITS TEACHINGS ARE, GO GET A COPY OF QURAN WITH TRANSLATION AND JUST READ IT FULLY.............BUT WITHOUT ANY BIAS AND PREOCCUPATION OF THOUGHTS.......HAVE A GREAT TIMES TO COME !!
RE:RE:Who told islam is the fastest growing religion?.
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jul 04, 2007 04:07 PM Permalink
Dear Sriram,
QUERY - 1:
THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN ISLAM....
If the Option is to Convert to Islam or Kill, means then why are you still alive..
Option-1:
Muslims ruled India for 1000 Years, if your assumption is true means, then all the 90 crore hindus should be dead or converted into Muslim.
Option-2:
If the Hindus were successful in retaliating Muslim Invaders and retained Hinduism, then why there was 1000 Years of Muslim Rule ??
Option-3:
The last assumption is all the Hindus lived a Nomadic life and Hiding for the Muslims... This is also false... Go to any Indian City, you can see the Palace of Muslim Kings near to Hindu Settlements for Centuries..
The Moral of the story is Nobody is compelled to change the Religion... That is why you are here alive and as a Hindu...
Every Hindu in India is a Living Proof that Compulsion is not used...
RE:Who told islam is the fastest growing religion?.
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jul 04, 2007 04:09 PM Permalink
IT IS NOT FEAR DEAR Srimram,
There are two types of People in the World... Suppose if somebody calls your Mother in a derragatory statement, you will either oppose it or close your ears... It shows your affection towards your Mother not your Weakness...
So Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) is 1000 times more important than my Mother, how can I tolerate when Rushdie is giving deragatory statements.... It shows my affection and not the weakness
RE:RE:Who told islam is the fastest growing religion?.
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jul 04, 2007 04:10 PM Permalink
IT IS NOT FEAR DEAR Srimram,
There are two types of People in the World... Suppose if somebody calls your Mother in a derragatory statement, you will either oppose it or close your ears... It shows your affection towards your Mother not your Weakness...
So Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) is 1000 times more important than my Mother, how can I tolerate when Rushdie is giving deragatory statements.... It shows my affection and not the weakness
RE:RE:Who told islam is the fastest growing religion?.
by jonson k on Jul 04, 2007 04:20 PM Permalink
Islam is the fastest growing religion in the in USA - which islamic army is present there
in wurope -- which islamic army is there .
Obviously these people are realising the truth now
RE:Who told islam is the fastest growing religion?.
by Shamsheer M on Jul 04, 2007 04:13 PM Permalink
shame on you men? you have a wrong perception of Islam... What all the wrongly things happening in the world is not because of ISLAM teachings. This is only and only because of guys taking out a wrong meaning out of the phrases of Quran. In every religion there are good guys and bad guys. Every one will know the truth at the judgement day. I will be happy to die if some one kills me because I am a muslim.. This is what I learnt from ISLAM and known from Quran. I really feel very bad when some one writes wrong about Mohammed-the profet and quran. I feel like crying...
RE:Who told islam is the fastest growing religion?.
by jonson k on Jul 04, 2007 04:19 PM Permalink
Islam is the fastest growing religion in the in USA - which islamic army is present there
in wurope -- which islamic army is there .
Obviously these people are realising the truth now
RE:Who told islam is the fastest growing religion?.
by Shamsheer M on Jul 04, 2007 04:12 PM Permalink
shame on you men? you have a wrong perception of Islam... What all the wrongly things happening in the world is not because of ISLAM teachings. This is only and only because of guys taking out a wrong meaning out of the phrases of Quran. In every religion there are good guys and bad guys. Every one will know the truth at the judgement day. I will be happy to die if some one kills me because I am a muslim.. This is what I learnt from ISLAM and known from Quran. I really feel very bad when some one writes wrong about Mohammed-the profet and quran. I feel like crying...
RE:Who told islam is the fastest growing religion?.
by abdul hakim on Jul 04, 2007 04:40 PM Permalink
calm down jayan...ha ha ha...r u getting paid by any fundamentalists?.....kwoool maaaan....
you are calling god and asking to him to kill all of his followers...
RE:Who told islam is the fastest growing religion?.
by abdul hakim on Jul 04, 2007 04:23 PM Permalink
My dear brother.ISLAM has taught us to behave nicely to others.I dont know how many are doing that.
RE:RE:RE:faithfreedom.org
by Milan Kumar on Jul 04, 2007 04:04 PM Permalink
i fully agree. LOVE IS ETERNAL AND DIVINE. Lets spread love...let people have roses instead of blood in hand.
RE:RE:RE:faithfreedom.org
by Abdul Haseeb on Jul 04, 2007 04:44 PM Permalink
Dear Tapan,
Islam never teaches to kill the innocent in any case but orders the protection of the innocents of any faith and belief. and JIHAD is not mere killing of innocent or for that matter the guilty too in many cases, its ordered only and only when there is a major threat to Islam by any means and I admit that whatever terrorist activities are happening around the world, majority by Muslims are not to be treated as JIHAD coz this indeed is not JIHAD and is totally against the teachings of Islam, I dont know what motivates these guys but I openly condemn this sort of cowardice under the name of religion, which maligns our great religion in the eyes of people like you, who I guess dont have any knowledge about Islam except for what you might have heard from others. And yes, HEAVEN does not comes so cheap that by mere killing of the innocent you get in there, whatever goods you have done here, you are subjected to stiff accounts on the JUDGEMENT DAY and each and every deeds of you will be accounted for and then if good prevail over bad you get to heaven.(I have narrated just the basics here coz if I go into detail it will take pages to describe it to you). And finally to your complaint regarding the killing of hindus in Pakistan, Afghanistan or Bangladesh...........do you know for real that such things happened in reality or again its the stories you heard from others, dude never believe on what others say in such cases, better check out the fact yourself. If you wish
Islam never teaches to kill the innocent in any case but orders the protection of the innocents of any faith and belief. and JIHAD is not mere killing of innocent or for that matter the guilty too in many cases, its ordered only and only when there is a major threat to Islam by any means and I admit that whatever terrorist activities are happening around the world, majority by Muslims are not to be treated as JIHAD coz this indeed is not JIHAD and is totally against the teachings of Islam, I dont know what motivates these guys but I openly condemn this sort of cowardice under the name of religion, which maligns our great religion in the eyes of people like you, who I guess dont have any knowledge about Islam except for what you might have heard from others. And yes, HEAVEN does not comes so cheap that by mere killing of the innocent you get in there, whatever goods you have done here, you are subjected to stiff accounts on the JUDGEMENT DAY and each and every deeds of you will be accounted for and then if good prevail over bad you get to heaven.(I have narrated just the basics here coz if I go into detail it will take pages to describe it to you). And finally to your complaint regarding the killing of hindus in Pakistan, Afghanistan or Bangladesh...........do you know for real that such things happened in reality or again its the stories you heard from others, dude never believe on what others say in such cases, better check out the fact yourself. If you wish
Islam never teaches to kill the innocent in any case but orders the protection of the innocents of any faith and belief. and JIHAD is not mere killing of innocent or for that matter the guilty too in many cases, its ordered only and only when there is a major threat to Islam by any means and I admit that whatever terrorist activities are happening around the world, majority by Muslims are not to be treated as JIHAD coz this indeed is not JIHAD and is totally against the teachings of Islam, I dont know what motivates these guys but I openly condemn this sort of cowardice under the name of religion, which maligns our great religion in the eyes of people like you, who I guess dont have any knowledge about Islam except for what you might have heard from others. And yes, HEAVEN does not comes so cheap that by mere killing of the innocent you get in there, whatever goods you have done here, you are subjected to stiff accounts on the JUDGEMENT DAY and each and every deeds of you will be accounted for and then if good prevail over bad you get to heaven.(I have narrated just the basics here coz if I go into detail it will take pages to describe it to you). And finally to your complaint regarding the killing of hindus in Pakistan, Afghanistan or Bangladesh...........do you know for real that such things happened in reality or again its the stories you heard from others, dude never believe on what others say in such cases, better check out the fact yourself. If you wish
RE:RE:RE:faithfreedom.org
by Abdul Haseeb on Jul 04, 2007 04:44 PM Permalink
Dear Tapan,
Islam never teaches to kill the innocent in any case but orders the protection of the innocents of any faith and belief. and JIHAD is not mere killing of innocent or for that matter the guilty too in many cases, its ordered only and only when there is a major threat to Islam by any means and I admit that whatever terrorist activities are happening around the world, majority by Muslims are not to be treated as JIHAD coz this indeed is not JIHAD and is totally against the teachings of Islam, I dont know what motivates these guys but I openly condemn this sort of cowardice under the name of religion, which maligns our great religion in the eyes of people like you, who I guess dont have any knowledge about Islam except for what you might have heard from others. And yes, HEAVEN does not comes so cheap that by mere killing of the innocent you get in there, whatever goods you have done here, you are subjected to stiff accounts on the JUDGEMENT DAY and each and every deeds of you will be accounted for and then if good prevail over bad you get to heaven.(I have narrated just the basics here coz if I go into detail it will take pages to describe it to you). And finally to your complaint regarding the killing of hindus in Pakistan, Afghanistan or Bangladesh...........do you know for real that such things happened in reality or again its the stories you heard from others, dude never believe on what others say in such cases, better check out the fact yourself. If you wish
Islam never teaches to kill the innocent in any case but orders the protection of the innocents of any faith and belief. and JIHAD is not mere killing of innocent or for that matter the guilty too in many cases, its ordered only and only when there is a major threat to Islam by any means and I admit that whatever terrorist activities are happening around the world, majority by Muslims are not to be treated as JIHAD coz this indeed is not JIHAD and is totally against the teachings of Islam, I dont know what motivates these guys but I openly condemn this sort of cowardice under the name of religion, which maligns our great religion in the eyes of people like you, who I guess dont have any knowledge about Islam except for what you might have heard from others. And yes, HEAVEN does not comes so cheap that by mere killing of the innocent you get in there, whatever goods you have done here, you are subjected to stiff accounts on the JUDGEMENT DAY and each and every deeds of you will be accounted for and then if good prevail over bad you get to heaven.(I have narrated just the basics here coz if I go into detail it will take pages to describe it to you). And finally to your complaint regarding the killing of hindus in Pakistan, Afghanistan or Bangladesh...........do you know for real that such things happened in reality or again its the stories you heard from others, dude never believe on what others say in such cases, better check out the fact yourself. If you wish
RE:RE:faithfreedom.org
by Milan Kumar on Jul 04, 2007 04:03 PM Permalink
i fully agree. LOVE IS ETERNAL AND DIVINE. Lets spread love...let people have roses instead of blood in hand.
RE:RE:RE:RE:faithfreedom.org
by Milan Kumar on Jul 04, 2007 04:10 PM Permalink
i fully agree. LOVE IS ETERNAL AND DIVINE. Lets spread love...let people have roses instead of blood in hand.
RE:faithfreedom.org
by Saccha Hindustani on Jul 04, 2007 04:08 PM Permalink
we rather read QURAN and PRAY people like you who doesn't know ABD of ISLAM or your own RELIGION get time to read all this rubbish websites!
RE:faithfreedom.org
by Milan Kumar on Jul 04, 2007 04:11 PM Permalink
Dear Saccha Hindustani, Hello. I believe in peaceful co-existence. Killin n violence for sake of religion can't be tolerated. Unfortunately, people are doing this for ISLAM. How do you justify this? BTW, I happened to drawn to islam and wanted to explore more after seeing all the SHIT they are doing worldwide. You guys better eliminate all they worms from your society and prove to the whole world that ISLAM has tenents of love and peace and it believes in peaceful co-existence of all religionss and faiths. Its a big challenge for ISLAM followers than any body else. Can you do this?
RE:faithfreedom.org
by Ibrahim Sheik on Jul 04, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
Dear Milan, Dont read XYZ web sites if you want to know the Truth know it from the Right Source... I also know the links of web sites, which sound like XXX rated websites interpreting Gita and Ramyana... I am sure that the interpretations are Wrong... If you want I can post that Nonsense, but I dont want to hurt my Hindu Friends...
please convert all your followers in to Ibrahim Sheiks and Apj Abdul kalams who respect other relegions. We need more such people as your followers not the Jihadis who spread poison on your name.
Good job Ibrahim you have added one more respectable moslim to the list.
RE:faithfreedom.org
by Milan Kumar on Jul 04, 2007 04:07 PM Permalink
Appreciate it. But, wht our muslim friends doing for a makeover? Do they ever desert the filty guys in violence? why muslim community(may be all or many section) admire guys like Laden and other traitors of india? why a carton can enrage whole of community, while they defy all the norms for other religion? Why do they love killing innocent people all over world? There is something major fault in the way ppl brought up in those societies. Any religion spreading hatredness or violence is bad. islam tops it all. I request my muslim friends, brothers n sisters to blame the terrorism in open and desert all those who bring shame to their religion. this is lacking.
