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RE:To Mohammed yunus and Ismail shaik
by epsilon on Jul 03, 2007 03:18 PM  Permalink
Can we discuss each one at a time brother?

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RE:To Mohammed yunus and Ismail shaik
by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:13 PM  Permalink
Yes you can

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RE:RE:To Mohammed yunus and Ismail shaik
by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:13 PM  Permalink
And for you brothers are only muslims. So dont call me brother for the heck of it.

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RE:RE:RE:To Mohammed yunus and Ismail shaik
by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:20 PM  Permalink
and before you challenge me
accept this challenge and you will get 50000 USD.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm

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RE:To Mohammed yunus and Ismail shaik
by epsilon on Jul 03, 2007 03:18 PM  Permalink
Brother I do not need $50,000. Even if God takes away whatever I have, I will be happy with the will of God. I try not to get myself in hate mongering hence I have nothing to comment on any website. Everyone has a right to his/her opinion.

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RE:RE:RE:RE:To Mohammed yunus and Ismail shaik
by Mohammed Arslan on Jul 03, 2007 03:26 PM  Permalink
Ur challenege is answered here http://www.answering-christianity.org/ac.htm

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RE:To Mohammed yunus and Ismail shaik
by Mohammed Arslan on Jul 03, 2007 03:24 PM  Permalink
The context inwhich the verses were revealed pertaining to the incidents thathappened before each of those verses were revealed.

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RE:To Mohammed yunus and Ismail shaik
by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:29 PM  Permalink
Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (2:191). So whereeve you find people who doesnt believe in Islam should be killed. Even if the disbeliever is blind, handicapped, kid who cannot understand religion or god fearing girls or old women who believed for ages in some other faith. whatever way you try, you cannot justify this. Why allah who knows everything has to say something like this generally? And how can you justify 90% of all terrorist activities happening all around the world?

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RE:To Mohammed yunus and Ismail shaik
by mohammed yunus on Jul 03, 2007 03:33 PM  Permalink
YOU ARE RUNNING IN HIGH BP AND WITHOUT ANY WORD,,,THATS Y U START USING ABUSIVE LANGUAGE,,I PITY ON U,,,,,FOR TRUTH WILL ALWAYS SOUND BITTER AND U HAVE TASTED THE BITTER ASPECT OF IT,,,WE NEED NOT JUSTIFY ANY OF OUR ACTS,,,,,IT IS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WITH TRUE HEARTS TO LEARN,,,GO TAKE SOME REST ATUL

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Lving on the edge
by Priyadarshan on Jul 03, 2007 02:37 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

why don't these people practice some art of living meditation ?????

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RE:Lving on the edge
by KETAN DESAI on Jul 03, 2007 02:56 PM  Permalink
Well said

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RE:RE:Lving on the edge
by marigold on Jul 03, 2007 03:09 PM  Permalink
Should we discuss the old testament?

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RE:Lving on the edge
by hello on Jul 03, 2007 03:22 PM  Permalink
marigold is shit..this bugger is a big idiot..

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RE:RE:RE:Lving on the edge
by KETAN DESAI on Jul 03, 2007 03:33 PM  Permalink
Dear Kishore, Where were you hiding for so long. I am impressed.

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RE:RE:Lving on the edge
by mohammed yunus on Jul 03, 2007 03:25 PM  Permalink
CALM DOWN DEAR,,,QURAN TEACHES TO RESPECT OTHER RELIGIONS AND GODS,,READ THE QURAN IF U WANT TO UNDERSTAND BETTER,,,AND WHERE DOES OUR RELIGION'S GOSPEL PROHIBIT US TO READ VEDA/OLD TESTATMENT,,THIS IS UTTER RUBBISH AND BASELESS STATEMENT,,,
U YOURSLEF HAVE ADMITTED ISLAM TEACHES UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD (THANKS A MILLION) AND THEN U SAY IT APPLIES TO MUSLIM,,,DOESNT SOUND LOGICAL,,,IT APLIES TO ALL HUMAN BEING IN THIS EARTH DEAR ATUL,,READ PROPERLY WITH A OPEN MIND.

WHAT DO U KNOW ABOUT THE TEARS OF MILLIONS OF IRAQIS (MUSLIMS N NON MUSLIMS ALIKE) WHEN THEY SEE THEIR MOSQUE COMING DOWN? TRY TO READ THRU THEIR WEBSITES N GET A FEEL OF THEIR SENTIMENTS.

UR STATEMENT OF KILLING KAAFIRS IN QURAN IS IN ABSLOUT IRRELEVANT CONTEXT. I TOLD U,,,READ WITH PROPER CONTEXT AND THEN U WILL UNDERSTAND. (MAY BE U WONT, IF U VE GOT SUCH A HYPED MIND)

U R THE ONE WHO TALKS WITHOUT ANY SUSBTANCE. ISLAM HAS NEVER BEEN IN DANGER AND WILL NEVER BE IN DANGER,,,FOR TRUTH CAN NEVER BE IN DANGER.

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by parkar sarkar on Jul 03, 2007 03:50 PM  Permalink
mr yunis
dont talk rubbish
if you look back to the terrorist recent atacks in India , all were muslim terrorists..
can you justify that ?
Simply answer this qstn..
and dont try to run around the bushes..
truth is known to all , it does nor matter what u say?

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RE:Lving on the edge
by Renuka Sharma on Jul 03, 2007 03:45 PM  Permalink
I agree with Yunus. I have also observed that only Hindus resort to maligning other religions on forums. They always begin this topic in the forum, and wait for Muslims to defend and then begin their verbal war. But seldom did I find any Muslim maligning the hindu gods or scriptures.. The only thing they do is defend. I know now that they follow Islam truly whcih tells never malign other's religion.Even Chritians dont malign.

But why do my brothers resort to only this means... Dont they know that when they point one finger at others 3 are pointing towrds them. Even Muslims and Christians find things in Hinduism which they consider absurd, but they dont malingn us thankfully.

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RE:Lving on the edge
by KETAN DESAI on Jul 03, 2007 03:30 PM  Permalink
Mr. Yunus, If you are blaming policies of western countries that means you feel that whatever Terrorist are doing is correct and that neccessarily means that you have terrorist mind set. Information should be given to Intellingence about you now.

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RE:Lving on the edge
by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:18 PM  Permalink
Well said dude. Spot on.

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RE:Lving on the edge
by Nitesh Kansara on Jul 03, 2007 03:05 PM  Permalink
still let other 2 percent live peacefully!
dont generalise for them!! And pl dont bring any religion in this talk.Its sahmeful to balm any religion.

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RE:RE:Lving on the edge
by KETAN DESAI on Jul 03, 2007 03:26 PM  Permalink
If I don't generalise them and point only Islam then I am doing injustice other religion. Again I m repeating, don't ask me, ask to Intelligence agency throgh out the world, you will find 98% list of Islamic Terrorist

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RE:Lving on the edge
by mohammed yunus on Jul 03, 2007 02:56 PM  Permalink
mr. atul,,,dont talk nonsense,,,Religion is a guide to the human life. It teaches man various means to achieve perfection and excellence in this life as well as in the life hereafter. If we as human beings have the audacity to condemn the innocent killings by terrorists, then how on earth can God be instrumental in instigating violence through the teachings of His religion?.

we have mistaken the followers of a particular religion to be synonymous with the teachings of that religion. This is necessarily not true. In order to appreciate the teachings of religion, one has to go to its holy books/scriptures to assess the essence of its message. And no holy book including Quran preaches violence. I challenge. U might pick a verse in ISLOALTION n say look here it is. Book if u read thru the VERSES and UNDERSTAND (with open mind; not hyped mind) the context in which it is said, I challenge u wont find none. I CHALLENGE MAN.
The evil actions of any person %u2013 be it a Hindu, a Muslim or a Christian is not and cannot be equated to the teachings of Hinduism, Islam or Christianity. We need to understand the hard reality of this fact


To conclude, I want to stress that %u2018terrorism has no religion%u2019 and %u2018no religion preaches terrorism%u2019. Terrorism is a product of social interferences and disturbances. And social disturbances and interferences are not based on any religious belief.




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RE:Lving on the edge
by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:08 PM  Permalink
Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (2:191), murder them and treat them harshly (9:123), slay them (9:5), fight with them (8:65 ), strive against them with great endeavor (25:52), be stern with them because they belong to hell (66:9) and strike off their heads; then after making a %u201Cwide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives%u201D for ransom (47:4).

In what context can you justify this?



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RE:RE:Lving on the edge
by Siddhartha bhattacharya on Jul 03, 2007 02:57 PM  Permalink
I think its the next booming industry :):)

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RE:Lving on the edge
by mubi rasool on Jul 03, 2007 04:09 PM  Permalink
its not about ignorin its about princepls, people with princepals iin west and most of them have princepls do appreciate the fact that most of the policies make Muslims suffer, i wonder why none of u ever talk about. u lot r biased and prejudiced, u only know what ur loppsided media tells u, they claim they killed 4 militants in kashmir the other day and the very next day there were protests in kashmir for killin 4 innocent youths labelled as militants. last week a army major and his sub ordinate were captured red handed tryin to r*pe a 16 yead old kashniri girl--- what u say

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RE:Lving on the edge
by KETAN DESAI on Jul 03, 2007 03:19 PM  Permalink
Rasool, You can ignore me but you can ignore western courties. Anyway they are screwing your brothers through out the world, don't they?

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RE:Lving on the edge
by mubi rasool on Jul 03, 2007 05:52 PM  Permalink
shanehind
i was readin ur comment and wanted to answer it but have decided against it coz for the comment u mention for the noblest man to walk on the earth, may my mum and dad and me be sacrificed for him,, i am a peace lovin but wont mind killin u for a comment like this-- have u ever noticed we never pass a obscence remark about ur 200000 gods or ur religon-- coz we r tolerant-- ur rant only shows how big a looser u r, and does this make u a warrior!!! or do u get any satisfaction through these remarks, look ur self in the mirror and rest assured u would feel remorse upon ur very existence--treat others as u expect them to treat u.

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by KETAN DESAI on Jul 03, 2007 03:06 PM  Permalink
No dear check International Terrorist list. You will only find people with faith in Islam, so why not in other religion? Don't justify to me or public, you need to correct this list with MI5 and Intelligence agency of US, Russia, India, Australia and of course Israel.

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RE:RE:Lving on the edge
by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:06 PM  Permalink
Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (2:191), murder them and treat them harshly (9:123), slay them (9:5), fight with them (8:65 ), strive against them with great endeavor (25:52), be stern with them because they belong to hell (66:9) and strike off their heads; then after making a %u201Cwide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives%u201D for ransom (47:4).



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RE:Lving on the edge
by KETAN DESAI on Jul 03, 2007 03:13 PM  Permalink
Para, You are genius

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RE:Lving on the edge
by mohammed yunus on Jul 03, 2007 02:59 PM  Permalink
Mr. Prashant and Mr. Ketan,, I would like to highlight three broad reasons why terrorism has come into existence. Number 1 %u2013 Poverty, Number 2 %u2013 Western super power%u2019s foreign policies towards certain parts of the developing countries, especially in the middle eastern countries and Number 3 %u2013 the quest for political power

How many of us here know the real reasons why the LTTE is fighting in Sri Lanka; the real reasons why the IRA in Northern Ireland and the Maoists in Nepal were fighting for; or for that matter why the Naxalites in India are fighting for?

If you take any terrorist act or terrorist group, you would find that they would fit in any of the above 3 classification. For instance, LTTE, they fight for a piece of land in Sri Lanka (which falls under the category for political gains); the United States biased foreign policies in middle east resulting in aggression on the Arab lands in Palestine, Iraq has caused Al Qaeda to surge up and the list goes on.

Your statistics that 98% terrorists are just baseless; do ur home work properly

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RE:Lving on the edge
by Prashant Shah on Jul 03, 2007 02:58 PM  Permalink
but terrorism is carried out in the name of religion

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RE:Lving on the edge
by KETAN DESAI on Jul 03, 2007 03:07 PM  Permalink
Mr. Mohmmad, don't ask me about the 98% stastics. Ask to any western countries.

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RE:Lving on the edge
by mohammed yunus on Jul 03, 2007 03:05 PM  Permalink
Stattistics means nothing if u interpolate for your own gains. Analyze what has been said by me and then talk

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RE:Aother car bomb near a mosque; defused hours before india-pak match
by deshbhakt on Jul 03, 2007 02:34 PM  Permalink
You can call them dedicated killers of Humanity, any how One Modi is enough for all jehidis provided impotent congressis and commies are not at PMO.

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RE:RE:Aother car bomb near a mosque; defused hours before india-pak match
by Aone on Jul 03, 2007 03:04 PM  Permalink
deshbhakt..
Om NaMO namay..

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RE:Aother car bomb near a mosque; defused hours before india-pak match
by nidhi dawesar on Jul 03, 2007 02:37 PM  Permalink
atul pandey ur thinking (comments) says everything about ur upbringing.

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RE:Car Bomb
by suruchi karol mehra on Jul 03, 2007 02:33 PM  Permalink
I TOTALLY AGREE Wipe the muslim race of this planet and there would be peace on earth for thousads of years

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RE:WHAT ELSE CAN YOU FIND NEAR A MOSQUE ?
by saif naik on Jul 03, 2007 02:38 PM  Permalink
Your thinking is biased and sad

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RE:Thanks To Islam Once Again
by Mohamed irfaan on Jul 03, 2007 02:26 PM  Permalink
hai if u dont know anything abt islam then shutup dont post false msg here..

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RE:Thanks To Islam Once Again
by Mohamed irfaan on Jul 03, 2007 02:40 PM  Permalink
your words itself shows that how civilized you are, its sin to teach you abt islam.....


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RE:Thanks To Islam Once Again
by Muzaffar Ahmed on Jul 03, 2007 02:53 PM  Permalink
Islam is the divine religion which teaches peace as Islam means peace, It also means "peace acquired by submitting will to Almighty Allah". There is a differce between a Muslim and Islam. A Muslim may not follow Islam properly as per the teachings, it does not mean Islam is a bad religion. Today Islam is increasing at a fast rate all over the world, why ? If you read about Islam, I am sure you will clear all doubts about Islam. Quran is the last and final revelations of Almighty Allah and there is not a single verse in Quran which contradicts. Today if we burn all religious scriptures but still we can have Quran as there are millions of Muslims who can recite the Quran with their memory. This is how Allah protects its revelations. If all Muslims in this world follow the path of Islam, there will not be a single person who will dare to say anything about Islam. We muslims have forgot our history and teachings of Islam and involved only in worldly affairs and that's the reason all this punishments. All Muslims brothers, pls wake up and hold the rope of one Allah and spread the message of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) that this is no God but one Allah and Prophet Mohammed is the messenger of Allah. Insha Allah, we will have success in this world and life Hereafter.

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RE:RE:Thanks To Islam Once Again
by mohammed yunus on Jul 03, 2007 02:49 PM  Permalink
read my msg below mr.atul

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RE:Thanks To Islam Once Again
by mubi rasool on Jul 03, 2007 02:42 PM  Permalink
what makes u think that ur comments means anythin to we muslims--- so shut up --- this will continue till we get what has been taken i.e kashmir, palestine, agfhan, iraq middle east, al-andalus, and seriously speakin India as well--- so instead of moanin like a menstrutain women learn some survival skills will hold u good in future.

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RE:Thanks To Islam Once Again
by mohammed yunus on Jul 03, 2007 02:41 PM  Permalink
dont talk nonsense,,,,,Religion is a guide to the human life. It teaches man various means to achieve perfection and excellence in this life as well as in the life hereafter. If we as human beings have the audacity to condemn the innocent killings by terrorists, then how on earth can God be instrumental in instigating violence through the teachings of His religion?

we have mistaken the followers of a particular religion to be synonymous with the teachings of that religion. This is necessarily not true. In order to appreciate the teachings of religion, one has to go to its holy books/scriptures to assess the essence of its message.
And no holy book including Quran teaches/preaches any violence. Prove it if u mean it. U might pick out a verse in ISLOATION n say "look here it is"; but I challenge,, select any VERSES with proper context, which preaches violence.
I challenge u would find none.

The evil actions of any person %u2013 be it a Hindu, a Muslim or a Christian is not and cannot be equated to the teachings of Hinduism, Islam or Christianity. We need to understand the hard reality of this fact
      
To conclude, I want to stress that %u2018terrorism has no religion%u2019 and %u2018no religion preaches terrorism%u2019. Terrorism is a product of social interferences and disturbances. And social disturbances and interferences are not based on any religious belief.


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RE:RE:Thanks To Islam Once Again
by mohammed yunus on Jul 03, 2007 02:43 PM  Permalink
read my msg below

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match
by ramesh t on Jul 03, 2007 02:19 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

what will happen to india pak match there at glasgow

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RE:match
by KETAN DESAI on Jul 03, 2007 02:52 PM  Permalink
Very difficult question. I think MI5 will have answer.

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RE:match
by Priyadarshan on Jul 03, 2007 02:18 PM  Permalink
probably sachin will slam a ''smart centuary''

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RE:RE:RE:purposely defaming mosque by core criminals
by marc shenil on Jul 03, 2007 02:56 PM  Permalink
ATUL PANDEY MIND UR WORDS



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by mohammed yunus on Jul 03, 2007 02:53 PM  Permalink
mr. ketan,,,dont talk nonsense,,,Religion is a guide to the human life. It teaches man various means to achieve perfection and excellence in this life as well as in the life hereafter. If we as human beings have the audacity to condemn the innocent killings by terrorists, then how on earth can God be instrumental in instigating violence through the teachings of His religion?.

we have mistaken the followers of a particular religion to be synonymous with the teachings of that religion. This is necessarily not true. In order to appreciate the teachings of religion, one has to go to its holy books/scriptures to assess the essence of its message. And no holy book including Quran preaches violence. I challenge. U might pick a verse in ISLOALTION n say look here it is. Book if u read thru the VERSES and UNDERSTAND (with open mind; not hyped mind) the context in which it is said, I challenge u wont find none. I CHALLENGE MAN.

The evil actions of any person be it a Hindu, a Muslim or a Christian is not and cannot be equated to the teachings of Hinduism, Islam or Christianity. We need to understand the hard reality of this fact


To conclude, I want to stress that,,, terrorism has no religion n no religion preaches terrorism. Terrorism is a product of social interferences and disturbances. And social disturbances and interferences are not based on any religious belief.


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RE:RE:purposely defaming mosque by core criminals
by KETAN DESAI on Jul 03, 2007 02:56 PM  Permalink
Then tell me only one thing why 98% of Terrorist belong to Islam? B'se Islam is mother of Terrorism? Please don't tell me, ask to any western countries.

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RE:purposely defaming mosque by core criminals
by ismail shaik on Jul 03, 2007 03:14 PM  Permalink
Bcoz US & its allies targeting to only Muslim countries for getting oil wealth .

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RE:purposely defaming mosque by core criminals
by hello on Jul 03, 2007 03:48 PM  Permalink
ismail shaik,is sudan a oil rich county..is vietnam a oil rich country..is afganistan a oil rich country??

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by mohammed yunus on Jul 03, 2007 03:08 PM  Permalink
Mr. Ketan,, I would like to highlight three broad reasons why terrorism has come into existence. Number 1 -Poverty, Number 2 - Western super power foreign policies towards certain parts of the developing countries, especially in the middle eastern countries and Number 3 - the quest for political power

How many of us here know the real reasons why the LTTE is fighting in Sri Lanka; the real reasons why the IRA in Northern Ireland and the Maoists in Nepal were fighting for; or for that matter why the Naxalites in India are fighting for?

If you take any terrorist act or terrorist group, you would find that they would fit in any of the above 3 classification. For instance, LTTE, they fight for a piece of land in Sri Lanka (which falls under the category for political gains); the United States biased foreign policies in middle east resulting in aggression on the Arab lands in Palestine, Iraq has caused Al Qaeda to surge up and the list goes on.

Your statistics that 98% terrorists are just baseless; do ur home work properly


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by mubi rasool on Jul 03, 2007 03:14 PM  Permalink
they have deleted my comment not even reported for abuse--- how lolly is that now. i think it was nail in the head for all u islam haters there.

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RE:purposely defaming mosque by core criminals
by ismail shaik on Jul 03, 2007 02:41 PM  Permalink
Mr.Vaghelasv, U have analysed the incident well. Actually criminals have no religion and boundaries. It could be handy work of anti-muslims to defame Islam.(Ismailsk)

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by Vijay on Jul 03, 2007 03:07 PM  Permalink
If that is true why dont muslim leaders condemn such act of terror. Most of the times they are defending their acts. Thats why it leads other people to believe that it is associated with religion.

Check out som eof Anjum Choudhary's video posts on youtube, you will realise what I am trying to say. He is a muslim leader from UK. If anyone sees him or people like him in action, they are bound to associate terrorists to Islam. No matter what you say.

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