I have come across so many muslims in this board ........and the theme is same........as soon as a terrorist activity happens and is linked to a muslim...............they start blaming RSS / VHP / BJP / USA / UK........everything under the sun......except islam..........I think it is time for them to introspect.........and change to fit into the mainstream all over the world..........and I feel educating them is not the answer.......as clearly seen in this terrorist attack.....he was a doc.Osama is a civil engg...so forth.......
I want to ask them all - can u tell me how many bomb blasts can be attributed to RSS / VHP / BJP all over the world......then I will give u a list of bombings done by islamic radicals......
Modi - Gujarat roit would not have happened if there was no Godhara.......
USA / UK - 9/11 happened first .....and then USA started atatcking Afghanistan.......as far as US was using them to fight USSR - they were bieng payed by USA to fight ...and if they did not want to fight USA could not force them to fight ech other......
In India - noone revers Chota Rajan in Hindus.......but in Muslims Dawood and Abu Salem r treated like god (in Azamgarh in UP where Abu Salem belons - based on a PTI report).
We don't see muslims issuing a fatwa against terrorism........we dont see them protesting agains terrorism ..or asking for hanging of
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by Sultan Ahmed Sheikh on Jul 03, 2007 04:16 PM Permalink
Hi Abhinav,
Pretty impressive data there... first up, I am not here to malign any religion... if you want to know about me, I consider myself a secular human being, now coming back to your statements.
Which incident of bombing was blamed on our fellow citizens belonging to RSS/VHP/BJP?
Gujarat Riots... well well well... any idea what were the findings of the commission that presented the report on the root cause of the unfortunate Godhra incident where many innocents lost their lives.
9/11, have you seen the documentary "Loose Change"? Also, I was in USA a little later after 9/11 and many US citizens were not convinced about Bush explanation for that incident.
Holy Cow !!! I don't know any Muslim who revere Dawood or Abu Salem...
Regarding Fatwa... well it is what the media wants you to see that you are aware about...
List keeps getting bigger ... You can ignore things & say to yourself that somebody else did. If that gets you a goodnight's sleep, well then go ahead.
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by Sultan Ahmed Sheikh on Jul 03, 2007 05:00 PM Permalink
Hi Abhinav,
Theories or facts !!! You don't want to believe these 'theories' I respect your opinion and won't beat around the bush trying to reason out with you, we are in a free world... with right to opinion...
Iran !!! OMG... where did the Persians come into picture here... BTW I enjoyed the movie 300...
I NEVER denied those facts... check my replies again Dost...
I never said that those dastardly acts were not done by Terrorists...
The reason I replied to you was that you had some questions... the answers for which I thought I had... in hindsight I think I was wrong on that aspect... but again I never intended to force you to believe what I wrote... I never intended to 'erase' the truth...
Having said that I believe you unknowingly/knowingly included 'Gujarat' into terrorist activities in your unending list... ohh.. maybe I am wrong... maybe.. just maybe... Gujarat riots were perpetrated by Muslims... gotta check my facts once again on that one !!! :)
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by kushal bansal on Jul 03, 2007 04:42 PM Permalink
Hi Very well said. I completely agree with you. We love our Muslim brothers. But what is hurting is that Muslim community is not very proactive in demanding justice for the crimes committed by Muslim individuals. Take the case of Mohd. Afzal who has still not been hanged despite death sentence given by the supreme court due to congress rule which tries to appease the Muslim community for its votebank. However, the Muslim community should come forward and demand death sentence for Afzal and send a clear message to other members of the community that we r against those who r against humanity. However this is not done by them which allows others to point fingers and malign the image of the entire Muslim community in general.
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 04:03 PM Permalink
Where are you EPSILON. He ran away. HAHAHAHAHAAH. Epsilon ran away. HAHAHAHAHAAH. LOLS LOLS LOLS LOLS LOLS LOLS
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by RyaN on Jul 03, 2007 04:07 PM Permalink
hey!do u have any work or just making nonsense comments!!!..answer it truly
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by epsilon on Jul 03, 2007 04:09 PM Permalink
Brother I am here. I would run all day if it makes you happy. :-)
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 04:12 PM Permalink
no need being here. Answer the question if you possibly can.
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by RyaN on Jul 03, 2007 04:08 PM Permalink
which answer u want..i will give it to u,in ur mouth...
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by RyaN on Jul 03, 2007 04:10 PM Permalink
u sick mind.....iam talking abt hot iron rod!!!....u sick mindless creatures always thinks what u do...:-))
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by epsilon on Jul 03, 2007 04:17 PM Permalink
He is my brother and I advice him to be patient and not get involved in such kind of activities. It is not for a muslim to degrade other faith or humans.
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 04:08 PM Permalink
HAHAHAHAHA EPSILON DOESNT HAVE ANSWER EPSILON DOESNT HAVE ANSWER EPSILON DOESNT HAVE ANSWER EPSILON DOESNT HAVE ANSWER EPSILON DOESNT HAVE ANSWER LOLS LOLS LOLS LOLS LOLS LOLS LOLS
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by Rahul Punjabi on Jul 03, 2007 04:28 PM Permalink
u mean the Islamic Goverment who have banned the free practise of other faiths ion their coutries are not practising truth of Islam? How do you justify free practice of Islam and Preaching of Islam when preaching of non-muslim faiths is strictly banned in every single muslim country. Malayasia is merely 60% muslim still its constitution gives more rights to Islam and it calls itself Islamic country
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by epsilon on Jul 03, 2007 04:16 PM Permalink
Good bless you Para :-) I thought we were debating like adults :-)
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 04:16 PM Permalink
Because you dont directly answer the question I did like that. Why dont you answer it directly instead of saying god bless and putting smileys? The question doesnt look like one which need answers?
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by LO VE Me on Jul 03, 2007 04:09 PM Permalink
LOL.. ppl literally worship Balasaheb Thackeray who has instigated a lot of riots against a lot of communities in India. I am sure a lot of hindus treat him like a god.
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by epsilon on Jul 03, 2007 03:58 PM Permalink
I think Islam is what I need. I do not say that I have stopped seeking knowledge. The prophet said that Seeking knowledge is compulsory for every muslim. If I make my own religion and write down that ... Dont fight oppression then what would you say about it ?
RE:Muslim fanatics
by epsilon on Jul 03, 2007 03:55 PM Permalink
Ok then you can please tell me which muslim army is currently invading/occupying a non muslim country?
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by Tabrez S Merchant on Jul 03, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
What is about Hinduism that makes ppl kill innocent ppl like in the case of godhra riots. Innocent humans are in danger becoz of hinduism.
I agree with Yunus. I have also observed that only Hindus resort to maligning other religions on forums. They always begin this topic in the forum, and wait for Muslims to defend and then begin their verbal war. But seldom did I find any Muslim maligning the hindu gods or scriptures.. The only thing they do is defend. I know now that they follow Islam truly whcih tells never malign other's religion.Even Chritians dont malign.
But why do my brothers resort to only this means... Dont they know that when they point one finger at others 3 are pointing towrds them. Even Muslims and Christians find things in Hinduism which they consider absurd, but they dont malingn us thankfully.
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by manoj poonia on Jul 03, 2007 04:24 PM Permalink
I find u totally uneducated, unexperienced and senseless mindless, irrespective of your age and gender. I feel you need to unbolt your mind and don%u2019t try be over philosopher. Thanks you
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by KETAN DESAI on Jul 03, 2007 04:02 PM Permalink
Renuka, forget about all the other things and check only international terrorist list. Then let me know, how many percent belong to which religion?
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by RyaN on Jul 03, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
terrorist list issued bu US!!..well dont worry if we indians dont obey US,then they will include Gandhiji also in past terrorist list...y u all act as slaves to US
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by Suryakant Waghmore on Jul 03, 2007 04:01 PM Permalink
Great Job Yunus, I appreciate your patience and that you respond to such stupid remarks. All these people are non entities, a miserable elite minority amongst hindus, I suggest you ignore them.
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
Hindu self-centeredness is changing dude. Lets see 10 years from now. Muslims please ignore these minorities. And dont come to this board again. Let us have some discussion about muslim atrocities. And some history too. Indonesia, Malaysia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc. Where hindus are almost non existant.
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by KETAN DESAI on Jul 03, 2007 04:04 PM Permalink
Sorry surayakant, exact opposite of what you said, this is the belief of majority of Hindus. Few belongs to your categories, must be illitrate.
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:54 PM Permalink
Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (2:191), murder them and treat them harshly (9:123), slay them (9:5), fight with them (8:65 ), strive against them with great endeavor (25:52), be stern with them because they belong to hell (66:9) and strike off their heads; then after making a wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives for ransom (47:4).
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by epsilon on Jul 03, 2007 04:05 PM Permalink
PARA, We started the discussion and left it in between. Can you also quote 2:190
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 04:11 PM Permalink
Muhammad was now ready to reveal the real reason behind his new Qiblah. He wanted his militants to fight for what he coveted. Qur'an 2:190 "Fight in Allah's Cause those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah like not the transgressors. (This is the first Verse revealed in connection with Jihad, it was supplemented by the 9th Surah.) Although this verse clearly orders Muslims to fight, the first of many such commands, Islamic apologists use this passage in the Western media to infer that Islamic fighting can only be defensive and moderate. Yet in context, that is not what it says. Just read the next verse: Qur'an 2:191 "And kill them wherever you find and catch them, and drive them out from where they have turned you out; for Al-Fitnah (polytheism, disbelief, oppression) is worse than slaughter." Slaying them "wherever you find and catch them" is clearly offensive, not defensive. So the prior verse has already been abrogated. And there is no moderation when one says that a belief, or even verbal abuse, is worse than slaughter.
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 04:12 PM Permalink
You wanted me to quote 2:190. Now i think ur doubts are clear about ur holy book.
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by epsilon on Jul 03, 2007 04:09 PM Permalink
So you mean that a book should be read on the basis of One line at a time and there is no connection between the lines ? :-) Is this a new fatwa that verse 2:190 has been abrogated ?
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 04:13 PM Permalink
You wanted me to quote 2:190. Now i think ur doubts are clear about ur holy book
RE:Why bring irrelevant issues
by LO VE Me on Jul 03, 2007 04:17 PM Permalink
Ignorant illeterate ppl calling themselves as hindus and maligning the name of the hindu community.
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:52 PM Permalink
Yes muslims dont malign other religion. They plant bombs and destroy them. Or they convert whole country. Like Afghanistan, Indonesia, Malaysia and they reduce the hindu population from 24% to 1% etc.
Renuka go and enrol yourself in some kindergarten after you are done with your madrassa education.
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:55 PM Permalink
reduce the hindu population from 24% to 1% etc in pakistan and bangladesh.
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by ninu kj on Jul 03, 2007 04:25 PM Permalink
Dear Renuka,
I find u totally uneducated, unexperienced and senseless mindless, irrespective of your age and gender. I feel you need to unbolt your mind and don%u2019t try be over philosopher. Thanks you
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by epsilon on Jul 03, 2007 04:03 PM Permalink
He should be tried according to the law of nation. And in my opinion he should be given the most harsh punishment for hurting the sentiments of hindus.
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 04:15 PM Permalink
How about all these terrorists? Are they doing right? If you say no then you are against allah. Answer me.
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by Riten on Jul 03, 2007 05:45 PM Permalink
Renuka, whats wrong in criticism. We hindus allow criticism. We don't strike out the heads of those with a different point of view. Thats why we have so many Gods in Hinduism since we believe that they are the manifestations of the same one God. Hindus have evolved and will keep changing with the times. Pratices which were common half a century ago are banned. We have tried to undo the caste system and even have positive discrimination (reservations) for the lower castes. We don't practice polygamy although it was common in the past. The list is endless. Not so with muslims. They can't take criticism. They don't change and can't think of removing some of the hateful, senseless, racist, discriminatory verses in the quran. They still follow 7th century primitive arabic social customs to the letter. They strike off the heads of those who dare to criticize them. They want people to be zombies and believe in everything that the quran says however illogical it may be. Hence it is the same book that people call is the book of peace that inspires people to blow themselves up and kill innocent CIVILIANS in the name of Allah. Their aim is to spread 7th century arabic culture through out.
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by Rahul Punjabi on Jul 03, 2007 04:25 PM Permalink
Muslims dont need to malign other religions in this form, They malign in 50 countries. By banning all other faith institutions. See Saudi . Construction of any Church, temple is denied by law. in Pakistan no muslim can change his/her faith but others can always become Muslim
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by ninu kj on Jul 03, 2007 04:28 PM Permalink
I think this Senseless lady Renula ,never gone to KSA and other gulf cont. I need to say lot for her , but i dont wan to waste my energy
hey I think it was very irresponsible on the part of the Indian govt. to allow our cricket team to play in Glasgow under such threats of terrorist attacks. They should have cancelled the match with Pakistan.I am sure Australia or SA would have done that. But not our Greedy Board which aims to make money out of every Situation.
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:47 PM Permalink
The best so far today. Grea job dude. You have a very good logical mind. Only a terrorist will try to justify your questions.
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by mubi rasool on Jul 03, 2007 04:42 PM Permalink
Hi Abinav - the reason why no voilence is atributed to rss and etal is coz GOI is Baised and their patron remmeber we had babri mosque demolition gujart riots all perpetrated by them under the patronage of different govts- and ur media plays a major role in dowin their attrocities i.e rss and VHP as we have seen. there were organisations which were found sendin money from uk to fundin the gujrat riots and all what was spoken in the rallies after the porgram is all well known, so ur hands are all bloodied as well. we Muslims have a glorious future and had a even more glorious past, just look at the history of spain where we gave west the concepts of civil liberties and equality and peaceful co -existence, WHEN they were i.e west busy killin each other, when there were only mud tents by the thames granada had street lamps, all this and we have been robbed of any appreciation-- and to add insult to the injury our lands got captured and people gettin slayed mercilessly-- if people worship that criminal i.e dawood thats coz u always marginalised moslems and treated them crap, they always find solace in criminals rather than police which has a history of bein partners in the crime when it comes to annihalation of indina muslims i.e kashmir, gujrat, mumbai. west have no interest in takin over ur poor lands coz u have nothin its after muslim land coz of resources,and for religous resons coz they think they can control armageddon.so dont even get into this argument its well over u.
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by mubi rasool on Jul 03, 2007 05:29 PM Permalink
Hi Abinav thats what i called defyin logic and jumpin guns, i think i overated ur intellectual, by the way its a UN report that since 1940 some 5million have been slaughtered in JandK by the minority ruled hindus.now u can either confirm it from ur source or u can rant which u seem to be good at, we have peaceful co existance in islaam like we had in spain, but unfortunately once we lost the control we were given the option of convertin to christanity or be killed, they had a HAmpolice which had to make sure muslims would eat pork-- pathetic- buti would never support any mass killin of non muslims as land as they live and practise their religon peacefully, so if pakistan is killin its minorites(if u believe so, dont know where u gettin ur figures from)its wrond and cant be justified. now pandits, my childhood's best mate was a pandit so dont brag that u have sympathy for them coz u dont-- they were forced to leave with a promise that kashmir would be cleared of muslims and then they can come and control it, which didnt happen, so they r themselves to blame but they are still more than welcome to come back, its their land but with no pro indian propoganda. u never been told that RIGHTS ARE NEVER GIVEN U TAKE IT and thats why u think i need a psychartic help--- mine is figt till the end mentality and urs is so typical indian slavis mentality.
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by Suryakant Waghmore on Jul 03, 2007 04:04 PM Permalink
what caste do you belong to abhinav, I hope you are not a brahmin, they are considered the most violent tribe.
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by KETAN DESAI on Jul 03, 2007 03:49 PM Permalink
Abhinav, Where were you hiding till now. I am impressed. Well said. You 100% correct.
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:56 PM Permalink
Why dont you answer him epsilon. This is the problem with muslims. If they dont have answers they just run away.Instead of advicing other religion people you go and advice your brothers. Get lost man.
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:55 PM Permalink
Why dont you answer him epsilon. This is the problem with muslims. If they dont have answers they just run away.Instead of advicing other religion people you go and advice your brothers. Get lost man.
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by epsilon on Jul 03, 2007 03:51 PM Permalink
What can I say. Afzal Guru has stood trial and has been found guilty. I have never seen a demonstration by muslims (except Kashmir) favoring him. Anyways the muslims from rest of India do not support the Kashmiris in their demand.
Pretty impressive data there... first up, I am not here to malign any religion... if you want to know about me, I consider myself a secular human being, now coming back to your statements.
Which incident of bombing was blamed on our fellow citizens belonging to RSS/VHP/BJP?
Gujarat Riots... well well well... any idea what were the findings of the commission that presented the report on the root cause of the unfortunate Godhra incident where many innocents lost their lives.
9/11, have you seen the documentary "Loose Change"? Also, I was in USA a little later after 9/11 and many US citizens were not convinced about Bush explanation for that incident.
Holy Cow !!! I don't know any Muslim who revere Dawood or Abu Salem...
Regarding Fatwa... well it is what the media wants you to see that you are aware about...
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by Sultan Ahmed Sheikh on Jul 03, 2007 04:38 PM Permalink
Hello Abhinav,
Thanks for your kind response..
Well I don't want to get into the "politics" of who created the committee and whether the report was fabricated, I am a very naive person taking things as they 'appear' or seem to be, also I cannot judge whether the report was ludicrous or not, you know what I mean? I would also not like to comment which religion Mr. Bannerjee practises. :)
Hallucination !!! I never said that... It DID happen... all I am trying to request is that please try and see the documentary... Then let's discuss this again.
Azamgarh: My Friend (can I call you that, I hope it does not offend you, I am sorry if it does) I have a couple of colleagues from UP, not exactly Azamgarh, but Jaunpur, pretty close by, I did ask them about the reports, their reply was that it was organized by the relatives of Abu Salem. I don't know the truth, if I had not asked I would also have gone by the media perception. BTW how difficult is it to get people to demonstrate, an empty stomach compels people to do weird things...
How many clerics do you know? Whatever my little interaction with them all were of opinion that this terrorism thing is wrong and not permitted, not in Islam not in any other religion...
To put in record I am not justifying any act of terror... it is cowardice to kill innocent people... men, women or children.
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by RyaN on Jul 03, 2007 04:04 PM Permalink
well..that was a good stuff but it lacked what i call is logical thinking!!!....well,can you tell me in how many countries does RSS/BHP/VHP operates???when a religion has its presence worldwide,problems are bound to occur ...no need to issue fatwa against terrorism,as already it has been prohibited in Islam....
I am 96yr old. Freedom Fighter.Under Azad Hind Fauj. I remember still how dear was our mother land. How desperate we were to get freedom. How we thought we would achieve it in a day.I remember how every one of us participated irrespective of our religion. I remember how Khan saab prayed eanestly in each namaaz for freedom. Today when I visit this forum, I feel ashamed of this generation.... Whatever the topic, whatever the reason, all gather around here and spurt venom at each other.
Its always... Hindu-Muslim, South Indian-North Indian, Hindi-Non Hindi, Upper Caste-Lower Caste.. Women-Men... and what not!! Is there nothing beyond this... I am sure all of them here are educated (because all type good english), all are in good post (because all are liesurely typing), some even revisit to check on any replies...
I am too old to preach... I am sad and disheartened to see the sorry state of my country. My mother-land... When we gather and speak about this ... our eyes moisten,
Is it for this day, that we have fought for freedom? we left our homes, career, property... donated all we had and served the country.. and only expected martyrdom in return...
Today people can only use this kind forum to display their partriotism towards country, language and etc...
How many of you actually do something nice to atleast bring a smile on someones face!! How many follow traffic rules, pay taxes, respect women, help the needy, dont spit on roads, help neighbours,endless!!!
RE:Whats Happening!!
by epsilon on Jul 03, 2007 03:45 PM Permalink
There are many sites that base themselves on hate but it is for individuals to decide if they want to seek knowledge and peace or get involved in hate mongering. I appreciate your post.
RE:ATTENTION PARA
by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:40 PM Permalink
But Krishna dint ask to kill his grand father on the basis of religion. It was a fight between good v/s evil. Not believer v/s disbelievers. And then hindus dont plant bombs. Have you heard an incident like that ever? And hindus dont have dedicated website who track the people muslims kills for islam like www.thereligionofpeace.com.
RE:ATTENTION PARA
by epsilon on Jul 03, 2007 03:47 PM Permalink
Brother who am I to save or destroy a religion. It is upto God to decide who should prevail.
RE:ATTENTION PARA
by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:40 PM Permalink
But Krishna dint ask to kill his grand father on the basis of religion. It was a fight between good v/s evil. Not believer v/s disbelievers. And then hindus dont plant bombs. Have you heard an incident like that ever? And hindus dont have dedicated website who track the people muslims kills for islam like www.thereligionofpeace.com.
RE:ATTENTION PARA
by sorab singh on Jul 03, 2007 03:51 PM Permalink
You said hindus dont plant bombs??In india that is the only busineess of bhajrang dal and RSS.Dont talk to me abt in how much shit the hindus are.They are physic and hipocrites,the whole london knows what they did in gujrat and ayodya.shame on these guys
RE:@PARA
by mohammed yunus on Jul 03, 2007 03:35 PM Permalink
cant u just understand and read in context. before reading v191, read v 190,,where in it is mentioned to fight only those who fihgt against u. If someone comes to kill u, will u stay still and watch him slay u?? understnad this yaar,,,come out of ur hyped thinking,,,90% statistics are all utterly baslesss,,,Terrorism is a product of social interferences and disturbances. And social disturbances and interferences are not based on any religious belief.
RE:@PARA
by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:41 PM Permalink
Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (2:191). So whereeve you find people who doesnt believe in Islam should be killed. Even if the disbeliever is blind, handicapped, kid who cannot understand religion or god fearing girls or old women who believed for ages in some other faith. whatever way you try, you cannot justify this. Why allah who knows everything has to say something like this generally? And how can you justify 90% of all terrorist activities happening all around the world? Kill them all without aggression. Is that what Allah means? And i told you before dont call me brother. Everyone in this forum knows that there can be muslim brothers for muslims.
RE:@PARA
by epsilon on Jul 03, 2007 03:42 PM Permalink
Brother if you want me to abuse a website or an individual I wont do that. I do not believe in hate mongering. There are other sites which has answered the questions on the site that you have mentioned. Brother till now I have not seen any broadcast or cassette showing a debate between the creator of your reference site and Zakir Naik. As far as his security is concerned,I dont know of anyone who has debated with Zakir Naik and been killed.
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:42 PM Permalink
Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (2:191). So whereeve you find people who doesnt believe in Islam should be killed. Even if the disbeliever is blind, handicapped, kid who cannot understand religion or god fearing girls or old women who believed for ages in some other faith. whatever way you try, you cannot justify this. Why allah who knows everything has to say something like this generally? And how can you justify 90% of all terrorist activities happening all around the world? Kill them all without aggression. Is that what Allah means? And i told you before dont call me brother. Everyone in this forum knows that there can be muslim brothers for muslims.
RE:RE:@PARA
by epsilon on Jul 03, 2007 03:35 PM Permalink
This is a very good interpretation and I agree with you completely. Your actions should be based on the love of God rather than the fear. I agree.
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by PARA on Jul 03, 2007 03:43 PM Permalink
For a man, two important days in his life is his marraige and his death. Islam controls this dates by fear of dejection. So people follow the faith.
RE:hate preachings by mullahs...
by sorab singh on Jul 03, 2007 03:52 PM Permalink
You said hindus dont plant bombs??In india that is the only busineess of bhajrang dal and RSS.Dont talk to me abt in how much shit the hindus are.They are physic and hipocrites,the whole london knows what they did in gujrat and ayodya.shame on these guys
