I do not agree that the suicide is due to Gender Bias or work related stress. I have worked as an SSC officer and am in the civil world now. As a woman the care and family environment you get in defence is 100 times better than the hostile civil cut throat competitive environment. The Defense forces is the best kind of service for women where we are respected, taken care of and groomed to handle all kinds of situations independently. Today my success in any sphere is due to the way I was groomed for 11 years as an engineer in Air Force.
RE:Stress in Defence
by Neeraj on Jul 02, 2007 10:50 AM Permalink
Mr.Harpreet ,Indian Army is no longer respected. There were many cases of suicide in the past. Also,there are incidents where they throws out passengers from a running train and rapes in remote areas. Maybe u r fortunate to get a good environment,but nowadays Indian Army is not a good place to work for sincere and honest youngsters.
RE:Stress in Defence
by rahul on Jul 02, 2007 10:56 AM Permalink
The working conditions in airforce and army are drastically different. Army officers have to face far more hardships as compared to IAF officers.
RE:Stress in Defence
by Harjeet singh on Jul 02, 2007 12:15 PM Permalink
harpreet I m also an SSC officer in IAF...but have had the misfortune of working along with the army...u r somewhat right about the air force...but things are way too differenrt in army...its an inhuman sexist organisation where people r neck deep in corruption and nepotism....there is a hell of a difference in the way of working of army and air force.... n for the "india should be ruled by army" jingoists...i can only say that even god will not be able to help our countery if dat happens...
RE:Stress in Defence
by Moumita Boral on Jul 02, 2007 10:50 AM Permalink
Whatever u say is right and maybe u haven't faced all the problems but that might not hold true for others. See I am not femiist I know that they are many men who face harsh condition and stress in the army and as a result go through a pitiable situation. But this is also a fact that maximum suicides that has taken place among high ranking officials are women. You were lucky for not having faced any kind of exploitation but may be others are not.
This issue should be taken very seriously.And CBI inquiry should be ordered to probe the recent suicide of woman officer in Army at Jammu, so that the TRUTH can be unveiled.
ITs true women have acheived skies but still they are some domains like Army, Navy and Airforce where women still are considered as weaker sex. In Private sectors many women are ruling the roost and people dont mind being under them. But these Govt. sectors specially armed forces they are many who come from conservative areas where women still are nothing but mere sex symbols and child producing machine so for them being ruled under woman is something that hurts their ego. Either a high ranking woman official is ostracised by her juniors who simply dont want to co-operate with her or she is sexually and mentally abused by her immediate peers who simply treat her as an object of fun. For the past 5 years we have found that maximum high ranking female officers have commited suicide not males. Why?
RE:Gender Bias!
by Harsha Kumar on Jul 02, 2007 10:34 AM Permalink
Don't jump to conclusions without knowing the facts of the case. How did you assume it is gender bias? Just because it's a woman?? Don't men in the army commit suicide?
RE:Gender Bias!
by Ashutosh Tickoo on Jul 02, 2007 10:51 AM Permalink
go by the records. There is a big % difference, in the forces, between sucide rates of male vs female officers.There is indeed a gender bias in Army forcing young female officers to commit sucide. An enqiry needs to be conducted. Shame that tis happnes in ARMY.
RE:Women are at a great disadvantage in the Defence forces
by Ajay Kostha on Jul 02, 2007 10:19 AM Permalink
They need to learn The Art of Living. In a very demanding career/atmosphere it is most important skill to be happy and joy full. Life is enthuasism, joy and love
Its hightime that army is still living in past while dealing with its human resourses.Stress and lack of congenial atmosphere are responsible for Suicides and killing of fellow colleagues/officers by armymen.The need of the hour is to have qualified councellers (who themselves are not under stress) to help not only armed personnel but also the members of their family and build a congenial atmosphere without affecting the discipline.
RE:Suicides in Army
by bond007 on Jul 02, 2007 11:28 AM Permalink
it has been observed several times that in army committing suicide rate is quite high due to bossism, strict actions, transfer to remote areas and tough exit policy. Gov should adept new strategy & amend in existing modal to create a congenial atmosphere for each one of the citizens.
RE:RE:SHAME INDIA & UR SYSTEM
by Hariharan on Jul 02, 2007 10:23 AM Permalink
If a single person decides to die, then the entire country can't be blamed for that Gentleman. Whatever circumstances forced her to commit suicide must be really very bad but suicide is not the answer.
A lot of my own very classmates (women) are in the Indian Army in various parts of the country. One in Siachen, one in Nagaland , one in Orissa, one is a Commando at an undisclosed location and many others. They too have problems, they fight back like we all do and not resorting to death.
She was a responsible officer of the Indian Army, if a well educated officer like took to suicide rather than fighting back against the problem then she is to blame and not the system.
RE:SHAME INDIA & UR SYSTEM
by noel on Jul 02, 2007 10:15 AM Permalink
sitting in a country full of people hating India and living of their shit.....how can you people even think about criticizing what happens here...
RE:SHAME INDIA & UR SYSTEM
by S. N. Holidays,Bangalore on Jul 02, 2007 10:23 AM Permalink
NRI's just know to complain when they go abroad ! Don't forget you are Indian by birth. Just because you are abroad don't think you are privileged. You guys only know to service those sheiks and spit at your own countrymen. Shame on you michael xavier.
RE:SHAME INDIA & UR SYSTEM
by Sanjay Sen Choudhury on Jul 03, 2007 10:22 AM Permalink
Because he said "THOO THOO", his nick name given by the sheikhs he cleans bums for..!!
