RE:FALSE GenDer of equality
by Sreekanth Nemani on Jul 02, 2007 12:36 PM Permalink
And who decides what women are good at and what men are good at? you? ... If tommorow we tell you that men are only good for staying at home and cooking, will you do it? I bet you would not even if we gave you strong sceintific proof!
If you find a woman that is not good enuf at her job, then don't promote her. But dont tell me men are better at the job than women. For every woman who is bad at her job, I will show you 20 men that are bad at their job! Just look around you and tell me how many men are there who are not good at their job! What should we do with them then? Should we send all those men to their home and ask them to learn cooking and feeding their family?
This stupid argument is usually given by people who are insecure about their own capabilities. You are blabbering about one female army officer who suicided. What about the 100's of male army officers who are suiciding every year? So can we say that men are not good enough to be in the army?
RE:FALSE GenDer of equality
by MeDiff on Jul 02, 2007 01:21 PM Permalink
Well said Ravi. You cant build a nation or society after breaking a home.
I am not aware of men giving birth or breast feeding. I have not heard in normal 'western justice system' the custody of an infant being given to the father. Why?
Gender equality is an abused term. Women and Men are born as equals. They have there rights and duties towards each other. Biological functions differ. Human kind cannot survive without each other.
The issue is not of gender equality but of abuses against women... in name of religion, jobs, advertisements, entertainment etc.
"Best among men are ones, who are best to their wives".
RE:FALSE GenDer of equality
by yogendra singh on Jul 02, 2007 08:23 PM Permalink
You are talking of 'western justice system', in west men also get paternity leave of 3 to 6 months, becuase in western societies fathers are equally responsible for bringing up of infants. A child needs care, love, touch an attention besides breast feeding. So men can do many things for the infants and they should feel responsible for their infants instead of puting all the onus on their wives.
RE:FALSE GenDer of equality
by PRATIMA BISEN on Jul 02, 2007 12:33 PM Permalink
Neither all men are equal in their capabilities nor all the women are equal. Don't brand anyone on basis of their sex.
Just because u are a men don't keep yrself on a higher pedestal because many men have illsutrious career. Just look at yr achievements and the sick menatality that you have.
Who says that only women are good air-hostesses. If you gly internationally you will see that many men are doing the same job.
Men love to do anything that can get them money ...
RE:FALSE GenDer of equality
by rashmi sahu on Jul 02, 2007 01:12 PM Permalink
Dear friens easy to talk then put in practice the practical problem is all in armed forces you are an officer no women please.Till you are bachelor you can do any thing go for sailing be at border, fly aircrafts but afyter marriage when you are in family way then problem comes, it is service before self rathere then self before service.once kid is born then you have to look after you can not be at peace station for another five years where as your counterparts are foregoing family life at borders onboard submarines etc.Further when you are captured by an enemy a women can be subjected to worst type of humiliation sexual abuse unlike men which can create deep marks mentally. How US is treating prisoners in Iraq. Always feminist view point can not support.Will you all like this happening to your officers, nobody want this.Further women are given same portfolios as male officers. yes hardships are there it is your mental strength and character, mettle which will help you, suicide is not a solution.Further every system has good and bad people.It is human nature we can be wicked, cruel or good under the sattva tamas and rajas gunas of nature.Every system is for good we with our ethics, thoughtfulness and good human and ethical values should make it better which we dont do often
RE:FALSE GenDer of equality
by Raj Mohan on Jul 02, 2007 12:14 PM Permalink
I do accept you points Mr. Ravi, I don't underestimate women, but as you said they have their own strong points, but due to over confidence some women thing that they are as good as any men. we have to think as person of individual characters and do the job accordingly, this will lead to success.
RE:FALSE GenDer of equality
by Vineet on Jul 02, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
Well a case can be registered against you in these times for not being politically correct. Recently NDTV went to town when the army chief said that women are not yet ready for fighter pilot jobs.
RE:RE:FALSE GenDer of equality
by PRATIMA BISEN on Jul 02, 2007 12:36 PM Permalink
Well if you don't hv the guts to be Barkha then atleast don't be so jealous of her
he was the top most officer any body have what he did with his female officer and staff,, go and ask his near and dear policewale who did job with hm , it is a good masala for people to read,,,,???????????terrorism, wine, money and political power, what good cocktail and sex put inside,, what elixir,,,,, for super cop
RE:Salute this Woman
by preeti s on Jul 02, 2007 12:31 PM Permalink
It is not necessary to have good english written skills.....Rox. Its ok as long as he/she doesn't hurt anyone.
RE:Salute this Woman
by Sreekanth Nemani on Jul 02, 2007 12:40 PM Permalink
Guess what Rox, english is not his mother tongue!! Can you write as well as him in his mother tongue!
I salute her for serving nation- i did she wrote any sucide letter? How come they are saying sucide without investigation? this case should be handover to civil police- if she has be harras OR forced official matter in Army what is goint to happen for NORMAL womem???
RE:the soul of honour
by MOHHAMMED SHABAZ on Jul 02, 2007 12:07 PM Permalink
Thank you for criticize, let me your further more comments - it was mis type
RE:the soul of honour
by Sreekanth Nemani on Jul 02, 2007 12:41 PM Permalink
Guess what Rox, english is not his mother tongue!! Can you write as well as him in his mother tongue!
It is a sign of coward, not of Brave. The Defence personnel are brave. this leaves bad impact on the non defence peoples. Fight with the circumstances as to fight with enemy.
RE:Sucide
by cool singh on Jul 02, 2007 11:42 AM Permalink
did you know in which circumstances she took this extreme step? Were you there? Stop judging!
RE:Sucide
by cool singh on Jul 03, 2007 10:16 AM Permalink
now, now, now again judging....dude do take your medication! You have got some loose screw in your little brain! :D
Army has a pet answer for anything wrong happens with the officer or troop. That is mantle stress due to leave. But the level of expoitation( or corruption in other way) is more then any civilian post. Even the troops are used for domestic purpose that is against law or another form or curroption. the one who deny for that are exploited for that. the demand from juniors by senior( illegal) is too high that leave nothing then suicide. By keeping defence budget to 96000 core and average family holding in india to 7. every family contribute somewhat 4000 RS per year for defence. where more then 15 % of indian population leave below 14 rs per day. 25 % population leave below poverty line. Lesser then Brigadior in army is not authorised for red light vehicle. but even we can see a captain using it for domestic purpose. We have to kept in mind that we are saving india at the cost of even food of poors. I hope it is time to check every part of defence. so that it will not lead to exploitation with in army or some where else.
RE:exploitation on the name of defence.
by Krys Rox on Jul 02, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
No wonder people are losing their heads with the kind of teachers our country obviously has these days. I am sure the unfortunate lady officer could never understand the written orders given to her from time to time with the kind of English that seems to prevail nowadays. The quality of language used on the Rediff Discussion Board is a sad example of our language skills. Rediff should have a built in spell-check, grammar-check and language-check feature for the Discussion Board.
RE:exploitation on the name of defence.
by sanjeev on Jul 02, 2007 12:14 PM Permalink
It is more narrow thinking that we are neglecting the content on the name of laguage command. this is what, that i want to explain. that is actually happening there.
ARMY ITSELF IS SO CORRUPT, TAKE FOR INSTANCE PAKISTAN ARMY, FRENCH ARMY, RUSSIAN ARMY, CHINESE ARMY AND EVEN AMERICAN ARMY. ASK THE SUPPLIERS WHO SUPPLY TO ARMIES AND THEY WILL TELL YOU HOW THEY ARE CORRUPT. I WAS WORKING EARLIER FOR ARMY SUPPLY COMPANY - HENCE THE KNOWLEDGE. SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS CORRUPT POLITCIAN WILL GO AND YOU WILL GET A GENERAL AS PRESIDENT WHO IS CORRUPT AND HAS GUN ALSO WITH HIM. ATLEAST OUR POLITICIANS DONT HAVE GUN ON THEIR SHOULDER. AND LATER INDIA WILL CRY IN SAME WAY AS PAKISTAN IS CRYING TODAY HAVING ARMY GENERAL AS PRESIDENT. BY THE WAY HAVING ARMY GENERAL AS LEADER FOR MANY YEARS AND EVEN FOR EG. CUBA AND OTHER SO MANY COUNTRIES IN AFRICA, HOW MANY HAVE MADE PROGESS - VIRTUALLY NO COUNTRY. THATS A REALITY. SO CONCLUSION - GOOD LEADER IS A GOOD LEADER, HE CAN BE FROM ARMY OR NORMAL WALK OF LIFE. CHOOSE A RIGHT PERSON AS YOUR LEADER AND NOT BECAUSE HE REPRESENTS ARMY.
RE:ARMY GENERAL AS PRESIDENT ...... WORST SCENARIO.
by sanjeev on Jul 02, 2007 12:22 PM Permalink
i apperaciate your view. solution is not in changing system. but to improve system
IT IS INDEED SHOCKING TO HEAR THE NEWS OF A WOMAN CAPTAIN COMMITTING SUICIDE.AN UNBIASED ENQUIRY SHOULD BE CONDUCTED IN A STIPULATED TIME FRAME AND THE GUILTY SHOULD BE PUNISHED.
