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Absurd
by Rajeev Mehta on Jul 01, 2007 08:18 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Its absurd to see a few people abusing religions.IMHO religion is a very personal thing.Its a matter of faith.

No religion can claim that their theory about GOD is final.

I think religion is a manifestation of human understanding of GOD based on individual interpretation.What everone needs to realise is that it is upto individual to interpret GOD.For some GOD might be nothing(ahtiest),for some a divine power,for some a charming personification,for some a male and for some GOD could be female.

Thus,to fight over who is GOD is absolutely absurd and ridiculous.

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RE:Absurd
by RATIONALIST on Jul 01, 2007 08:30 PM  Permalink

I feel that you can provide some sense and rationality to this fanatic rediff message members.

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RE:Absurd
by V H on Jul 02, 2007 08:09 AM  Permalink
Rajeev - what you described is Sanatana Dharma. I guess dumb westerners called it some ism like Hinduism

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Are kathmullah on Board are listening?
by Final Punch on Jul 01, 2007 08:16 PM  Permalink 

Dear Rationalist if fools do not change then By the way Islam is dead against Change,so as per your words it must be a religion by fool for fool,is it true? if yes then all Muslim Clerics Must issue fatwa against YOU. are Kathmullah listening?


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by muneer abidi on Jul 01, 2007 08:06 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MUSLIM AND HINDU
The difference between Muslim and Hindu belief is the perception of God. The common Hindu consider everything as God like tree, sun, moon, snake and even human beings as manifestation of God. On the contrary, Muslim believe, that everything is God's. In other words everything belongs to God, like tree, sun, moon, snake, human beings and everything in this universe belongs to God. So the main difference between Hindu and Muslim beliefs is that Hindu says everything is God and Muslim says everything is God's. The common Hindu belief in multiple gods while learned Hindus, who are well versed in their scriptures, insist that a Hindu should believe in and worship only one God.
for example :
" O friends, do not worship ANYBODY but Him, the Divine One. Praise Him ALONE."[Rigveda 8:1:1]
"He is ONE ONLY without a second." [Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1]

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RE:reply to
by arbind on Jul 01, 2007 08:22 PM  Permalink
Hey muneer who r u? how do u know so much? why did u learn so much abt us hindus?

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RE:RE:reply to
by muneer abidi on Jul 01, 2007 08:24 PM  Permalink
arbind,
is it prohibited to learn about other religions.

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RE:reply to
by muneer abidi on Jul 01, 2007 08:15 PM  Permalink
"His form is not to be seen; no one sees Him with the eye." [Svetasvatara Upanishad 4:20]
That which cannot be seen by the eyes, but by which the eyes see, [Kena Upanishad]
"He is bodiless and pure." [Yajurveda 40:8]

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RE:reply to
by Shankar Gowda on Jul 01, 2007 08:09 PM  Permalink
Great. I commend you

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RE:reply to
by Final Punch on Jul 01, 2007 08:18 PM  Permalink
But Munner Why Muslims are WorshipingThese Tombs as Ajmer, Delhi, Barilly and all over India? is it not a form of Idol Worship?

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by muneer abidi on Jul 01, 2007 08:23 PM  Permalink
dear final,
muslims are not allowed to worship anything except god. muslims are allowed to visit the graves but prohibited to worship them.
I also do have a respect for khawaja ajmeri and all great personilities regardless of their religion but i do not worship them.

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RE:reply to
by muneer abidi on Jul 01, 2007 08:14 PM  Permalink
"There is only ONE God, not the second; not at all, not at all, not in the least bit."[Brahma Sutra]

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RE:reply to
by muneer abidi on Jul 01, 2007 08:35 PM  Permalink
what i have written is wrong ?


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RE:reply to
by Swaroop on Jul 02, 2007 09:53 AM  Permalink
Firends,
He copied and pasted all from irf.net

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RE:reply to
by Saif Khan on Jul 01, 2007 08:29 PM  Permalink
Dear Muneer,

Really appreciable work,

Keep it up !!!

Saif

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RE:reply to
by Abbas Kudrati on Jul 01, 2007 08:15 PM  Permalink
I bet u are a sunni. Trying to divide hindus and muslims.


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RE:Shoes Made for Talking Prophesised 1424 Years Ago!
by Final Punch on Jul 01, 2007 07:26 PM  Permalink
idiot, keep Day Dreaming till you survive on this planet.

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RE:Shoes Made for Talking Prophesised 1424 Years Ago!
by RATIONALIST on Jul 01, 2007 07:35 PM  Permalink

Theres nothing more dangerous than a resourceful idiot like Final Punch.

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RE:Shoes Made for Talking Prophesised 1424 Years Ago!
by Final Punch on Jul 01, 2007 07:41 PM  Permalink
Mr. rationalist, you have Shown your true colours. if you have any rational with you prove my comments wrong!

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RE:Shoes Made for Talking Prophesised 1424 Years Ago!
by RATIONALIST on Jul 01, 2007 07:50 PM  Permalink

Faith is a knowledge within the heart, beyond the reach of proof.

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RE:RE:Shoes Made for Talking Prophesised 1424 Years Ago!
by RATIONALIST on Jul 01, 2007 07:50 PM  Permalink

A wise man changes his mind, a fool never.

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RE:Shoes Made for Talking Prophesised 1424 Years Ago!
by Final Punch on Jul 01, 2007 07:51 PM  Permalink
Blood is with in Heart not Faith.

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RE:Shoes Made for Talking Prophesised 1424 Years Ago!
by Final Punch on Jul 01, 2007 08:02 PM  Permalink
By the way Islam is dead against Change,so as per your words it must be a religion by fool for fool,is it true? if yes then all Muslim Clerics Must issue fatwa against YOU. are Kathmullah listening?

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yes, hindus are nature worshippers
by kalyan ram on Jul 01, 2007 07:23 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

yes, hindus and hinduism is all about worshipping mother nature......hanuman....the snake......are all part of nature....is worshipping mother nature a blind faith?....even sex and kamasutra are all part of nature.....its 5,000 year old faith......why some blind fellows are attcking hinduism?......mother nature has many facets , so are many hindu gods.....a particular hindu god represents a part of nature......but mother nature is only one.......

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RE:yes, hindus are nature worshippers
by Final Punch on Jul 01, 2007 07:33 PM  Permalink
You are right Kalyan!

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RE:yes, hindus are nature worshippers
by Pasha Patel on Jul 01, 2007 07:39 PM  Permalink
Common just by saying Mother Nature you cant just hide the truth you are confused what to worship Just understand that the CREATOR is different from CREATURES. If you take both together it does not give any meaning. Universal Creator is the creator of Nature, who has created the whole of Universe and he will not possess any human form as you may imagine. Once you imagine the creator with any human or animal form, you lost the track of the CREATOR. This is what is the basic knowledge given in Islam.

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RE:yes, hindus are nature worshippers
by kalyan ram on Jul 01, 2007 07:44 PM  Permalink
i tried to explain u morons as much understandable as possible.......u are a bloody paki......why pakis rank no.1 in googling for sex in internet worldwide?....is that your islam taught u like that?......

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RE:yes, hindus are nature worshippers
by Pasha Patel on Jul 01, 2007 07:52 PM  Permalink
I know once you fellows do not have any answers instead of understanding the right things, you start attacking by some silly comments on the prophets and show open jelousy.

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RE:yes, hindus are nature worshippers
by Rajendran Balakrishnan on Jul 01, 2007 08:11 PM  Permalink
Mohammed was a bloody paedophile. he was also a psychopath. such a cruel person cannot be called a prophet.

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RE:yes, hindus are nature worshippers
by Final Punch on Jul 01, 2007 07:49 PM  Permalink
Pasha do not worry about losing track of Creator . BTW Since you are on right track where your CREATOR has no shape as per basic knowledge of Islam so you should have met CREATOR please tell about Him/Her.

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RE:yes, hindus are nature worshippers
by RATIONALIST on Jul 01, 2007 07:52 PM  Permalink

It is better to keep your mouth closed mr. final punch and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

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RE:RE:yes, hindus are nature worshippers
by Pasha Patel on Jul 01, 2007 07:59 PM  Permalink
Final,Understand the message. Cetainly when your Final time comes you will certainly meet your creator and dont think of meeting the Creator now itself. Mend yourself, have faith in Him Not in any form since the forms given to God are all just imaginations and there is no truth in that.

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RE:yes, hindus are nature worshippers
by Kalyan Valluri on Jul 01, 2007 07:55 PM  Permalink
Pasha,

It is one way of protecting nature. When you start worshipping...then you love it. Then you will not do any harm to it. "Vrukshao rakshati rakshita". Ise kabhi suna hain kya. Iska meaning samajhte ho. This is the concept of Hinduism.

And God is nowhere...he is in all of us...even in animals and plants.. Don't search for god like a fool by not giving appropriate value and showing concern towards your neighbourhood and to the nature...this is the lesson that HINDUISM teach.

HINDUISM ke concepts samajhne ke liye DIMAGH chahiye....Hai kya aap ke paas...Nahin hain tho is janam mein nahin samjhoge.

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RE:yes, hindus are nature worshippers
by RATIONALIST on Jul 01, 2007 07:58 PM  Permalink

The human brain starts working the moment you are born and never stops until you stand up to blog/speak in public.

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RE:RE:yes, hindus are nature worshippers
by arbind on Jul 01, 2007 08:05 PM  Permalink
abe idiot the human brain starts working even when it is in the womb... go read some science.... oh i forgot... u ppl do not read science u read MADrasa lol

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RE:yes, hindus are nature worshippers
by Final Punch on Jul 01, 2007 08:07 PM  Permalink
Rationlist and Patel reply Directly if you have knowledge faith or any thing do not just bluff. if you have no answer then let others speak.

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RE:yes, hindus are nature worshippers
by Kalyan Valluri on Jul 01, 2007 08:14 PM  Permalink
There is another popular saying in HINDUISM.

You can teach those who doesn't know anything.
You need not teach those who knows things.
But the dangerous are those who doesn't know anything but assume that they know everything and they believe only in what they know....

Dangerous to the society...and they even try to spread their incomplete knowledge.

This is not only for you...for all those who talk with incomplete knowledge in public places and try to make fun of others believes..

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RE:yes, hindus are nature worshippers
by RATIONALIST on Jul 01, 2007 08:26 PM  Permalink

Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.

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by Vinu Bhardwaj on Jul 01, 2007 07:21 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I think the moderator is some intolerant jerk who will not allow an open discussion. He is blocking everything, left and right

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RE:SHIV LINGAM NEEDS VIAGRA
by Vinu Bhardwaj on Jul 01, 2007 07:29 PM  Permalink
Hey Mathew,
Go and molest altar boys. Leave us Hindus alone.

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RE:RE:SHIV LINGAM NEEDS VIAGRA
by crazyforsense on Jul 01, 2007 07:28 PM  Permalink
Relax....Vinu.

Look at the name, looks like a female. Do you really think a female will post such a message? It is some impostor, no way to know who.

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RE:SHIV LINGAM NEEDS VIAGRA
by Abhi on Jul 01, 2007 07:23 PM  Permalink
even ur dad...:)

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RE:SHIV LINGAM NEEDS VIAGRA
by crazyforsense on Jul 01, 2007 07:26 PM  Permalink
Stupid insensitive remark.

So are you a Pakistani posting this stupid message having fun see indians fight?

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Hindus
by Vinu Bhardwaj on Jul 01, 2007 07:14 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Why do Hindus worhsip a form of sexual organ?

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RE:Hindus
by Final Punch on Jul 01, 2007 07:22 PM  Permalink
life originates from sexual organs only.( May your case be different).so it is a way of obedience for normal creature to show respect. and God is always termed as Param Pita Supreme Father in Any religion. is it clear?

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RE:Hindus
by Vinu Bhardwaj on Jul 01, 2007 07:31 PM  Permalink
Yes. Thanks. Now tell me why Hindus are so sexually conservative/backward (just like Muslims)?

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RE:Hindus
by Sanjay Goyal on Jul 01, 2007 07:41 PM  Permalink
hey venu bhardwaj ask from ur parents who r u and why u use bhardwaj as ur sir name.after that ask from them why r u so sexually cobservative.

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RE:Hindus
by Kalyan Valluri on Jul 01, 2007 07:53 PM  Permalink
Yeah Sanjay,

I too agree with you. BHARADWAJ should go and ask what shiva linga mean. Is it just a symbol of sexual organ as Bharadwaj is thinking of and also about why we are sexually conservative.

For the second question, he will get an answer to himself when his children becomes adults.

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RE:Hindus
by Saif Khan on Jul 01, 2007 07:54 PM  Permalink
Dear Vinu,

If u think that this is conservative then i would say Its really very good for our society that Hindu & Muslims r conservative other wise we might be facing the same problems , wt the west culture people r facing at present as fa r as their small kids r concern.

I hope that u have some idea about that.

All the best.

Regards,

An Indian muslim

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RE:Hindus
by Final Punch on Jul 01, 2007 07:53 PM  Permalink
Saif you are right but others Should also understand same.

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RE:Hindus
by Saif Khan on Jul 01, 2007 08:05 PM  Permalink
Dear FRd,

Thanks for ur appreciation.

Regards,

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RE:Hindus
by Final Punch on Jul 01, 2007 07:33 PM  Permalink
Dear,Hindus are not conservative but yes everything can not be done in open and further there are many other aspects of any topic. Further on one can judge any body as backward or conservative it is view point and varies from Kamsutra to Sanyas in Hindiusm.

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RE:Hindus
by Prakash Nadar on Jul 01, 2007 07:53 PM  Permalink
Well you are wrong, cloneing is not done by sexual organs.

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RE:RE:RE:Hindus
by Final Punch on Jul 01, 2007 08:04 PM  Permalink
Prakash even for Cloning DNAs are required from both Side other and Father and Cloning is a carbon copy of Original which can made from Original Sexual Organs!By the way are Clone ?

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RE:Hindus
by Abhi on Jul 01, 2007 07:20 PM  Permalink
shiv lingam shows centre finger to all other religion...:)

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RE:Hindus
by Kalyan Valluri on Jul 01, 2007 07:21 PM  Permalink
Because when people started worshipping lord shiva, intelligent people like you were less.

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RE:Hindus
by V S on Jul 01, 2007 07:21 PM  Permalink
it's just blind faith. no rational reason behind it..

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RE:Hindus
by Vinu Bhardwaj on Jul 01, 2007 07:22 PM  Permalink
Blind faith? Are you saying Hindus are ignorant and/or the real Lord Shiva does not exist?

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RE:RE:Hindus
by Vinu Bhardwaj on Jul 01, 2007 07:24 PM  Permalink
If we worship a sexual organ, then why is our society so uptight about sex?

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RE:Question on ShivLingam's background
by kalyan ram on Jul 01, 2007 07:13 PM  Permalink
u will get the answer when u die and go to hell, there you will get the answer for your question. not here in this rediff.

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