You are right Ravi Bhaskar, in all this talk about the grand India, heart is noticeably missing.
And I don't know why people expect that to express love for one's country you must stand on the land. Its akin to saying that all those different people from different ethnic backgrounds, residing in the metros, are disloyal to their ethnic culture.
RE:Well this is a good vedio that did touch my Heart (India Vs India)
by Surya Prakash T on Jan 23, 2007 10:05 AM Permalink
Mr. Ravi,
I would not be surprised if you wake up tommorrow and start crying that you were not born to Amitabh and Jaya and are not as handsome and successful as Abhishek. Shame on you. You should look at your parents and be embarassed that they could not do a good job in giving birth to a sensible person. By the way I spent 6 very successful years in US and came back to India in 96 when Indian economy had not much to boast of. Now that you accept that things in India are looking up, I dare you to come back. People with poor vision like you will end up as loosers in India as it is a very competitive environment. Prakash(sthat@rediffmail.com)
RE:RE:Well this is a good vedio that did touch my Heart (India Vs India)
by Ram Dwivedi on Jan 23, 2007 11:29 AM Permalink
Abhishek & handsome.. Look ever at his shaven face. he never looks more than a "UP's bhaiya" in spite of all that grooming and make-up. If he is handsome, my servant is Johny Depp.
"The time has come for us to become an economic powerhouse of the world. There is no stopping us now...",
Unfortunately not everyone is happy with India's progress. The hatefilled marxist, Bidwai is very upset about this. He wants to keep people poor so he can write about them and cry about them
The topic here is not about NRIs,but rather about India.Lets talk on that.Why should we ask NRIs to come back and do their bit on this? Ask yourself one question.Have I done my part correctly?Have I contributed to those things that turn India ugly?Some simple things like polluting the neighbourhood,spitting on the road,employing children at home.Its drops that make an ocean.If every Indian pledges to abide by the law and stop taking/giving bribe,we wont have people leaving the country for greener pastures.
Do you really think that India will make up... it will, but the fate of the common man in India is getting worse day by day.
Does anyone have any comment on it. I also happened to travel to other places in the world. They all feel pity about us, having a great country with high heritage and values, we always lack many things.
It has become difficult to survive in this country than it was before. I do not want to compare this with any other developed countries, where the situations may be worse.
RE:India - where is the future
by Stalin Selvamoni on Jan 23, 2007 09:32 AM Permalink
Well, I find this the other way. There is change in all the areas. It effects even the poor. They are getting better.
Here comes a challenge! Any development can not help to those who are determined to stay and refuse to live in it.
Your vision for India is good Ravi. We didn't start our country yesterday like those you compare with. India is an ancient country with different cultures. 60 years ago we started our dreams from nothing. We fought many wars which were forced upon us. Our meekness was exploited. Did we fail? No ... no, We stay atop in human values and respect.
India has risen up! We can see it around. We shines with a new dimension. In an unique way. stalins@hotmail.com
Reasons are a plenty. But everything converges to one, population. No society can adhere to Human values; when air, water, space become a major part of everyday struggle. There's only so much resource; and population of people without human values are growing at rapid rate and in some cases, it hasn't been practiced for generations.
I am Ashwat, a friend of Ravi Bhaskar. We both studied in the same university in Canada.
Firstly, i would like to commend you on the fact that you are doing your bit in helping India move forward by supporting the education of three children. Trust me, so is Ravi and so am I.
From your response to Ravi's article, i could see that you are very passionate about this matter and i truly appreciate it. That is exactly why i am emailing you. I see in you the same passion that i have for the development of our country.
However, just the fact that Ravi and I are not in India does not mean that we have chosen to run away from the system. Sometimes it is good to develop a broader perspective by seeing the outside world, appreciating the good things about other cultures, learning from them and bringing the learnings back to be able to contribute more to your own country and people.
Yes, the key would be to return to one's homeland and there is no denying that. I will return to India somewhere between Aug & Oct 2008 (after having completed about 4 years here - 2 years studying and 2 years working. You may email me then to check if you wish !! Ha ! Ha !!) and Ravi plans to return after a few more years. And neither of us say that we dont have to do anything for our country till then. We are doing our bit too.
In our batch, of the 25 Indian students who came here to do our MBAs, i expect only 3 to return to India -------- Myself, Ravi and another friend ( In the order in which we will return). I believe that even that as a % is good. Its not the number of people who return but the intention with which one returns and what they do after they return that matters. What is the point if someone returns because he was deported, lost his job etc.
Over the last few years, i have come to believe that even those who decide to "run away" play an important role in terms of the foreign exchange they send back to the country, the goodwill they develop for India, the jobs they send back home (some business leaders from India who have settled here really sell India as a destination for investment) etc and as hard as i myself find to accept this, we should respect their choice.
The whole idea of Ravi's article was to indicate how some small changes can make a difference (and you are actually doing it too !!!). But words leave a lot are open for interpretation and both of us were aware that the article could be misinterpreted. I expect that even this email may be misinterpreted as an act of "defence", but it is not. It is merely an act to share some facts and opinions and also hopefully to get introduced to someone who shares similar passions
RE:Think!
by adarsh sampath on Jan 23, 2007 08:58 AM Permalink
hi, I agree with you (and i stay in india). U are doing a wonderful job by giving education to 3 children. Keep it up. And i salute both of you for this.
RE:Think!
by antar darshi on Jan 23, 2007 09:59 AM Permalink
Don't kid yourself! Or the rest of us! Ever heard of the X 1 syndrome (or is it N 1)? It is easy to sit in the land of milk and honey and day-dream or pontificate or reminisce. If India is already shining, why are you guys there and not here? Partake and also contribute being here, don't preach from afar.
RE:RE:Think!
by Tigger_and_Pooh on Jan 30, 2007 01:57 AM Permalink
if all malloos were to return to kerala there would be nothing to support them....similarly - if all indians were to return to india - it would be an impossible strain on it's infra. so - it is not where some one is living in as much what they are doing that is important. and i really hate india bashers and nri stereotypers. you will never really understand what it is to be away from "home".
hi, I know its easier to preach than to practise. We all know these facts but always want someone to remind or wake us. Believe it or not its a truth we all know our duties but no one follows it. Everyone is in a look to pull others down.
We again need to get together and work to make india a prosperous united and more importantly a peaceful india.
You are right Ravi Bhaskar, in all this talk about the grand India, heart is noticeably missing.
And I don't know why people expect that to express love for one's country you must stand on the land. Its akin to saying that all those different people from different ethnic backgrounds, residing in the metros, are disloyal to their ethnic culture.
