These times make me feel how imperative Shariah Law is for India. If you look at the Middle Eastern countries, these incidents are so unbelievably rare, simply because the Islamic laws are in place.
A rapist deserves capital punishment, and Islamically, stoned to death.
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by hirak sarkar on Feb 22, 2007 03:45 PM Permalink
Spare us from our preaching Mr haris. The incidents are rare in Middle East countries only becoz they are not highlighted, not for the damn Shariah law you are talking about. Regarding your Islamic Law, the less said the better. Requesting the heavens to help out people like you.
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by Kabadan Y on Feb 22, 2007 03:22 PM Permalink
Looks like my friend is not really aware of the middle eastern countries for their own nationals. Rapes are regular in those so called countries and no one (local) has ever recd. any appropriate punishment. So, we just need our law of the land which needs to be implemented impartially and who ever is the wrong doer.
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by Mohd Haris on Feb 23, 2007 12:41 AM Permalink
On what grounds do you base your statements? I have lived in Saudi Arabia for 11 years and in the United Arab Emirates for 8 years of my life. Just like you've learnt India's history, economics and political structure and how laws affect the people, etc. I have studies it all for them. And I know how is affects in practical sense. I know what "kinds" of crime happens in India, and how frequently. And I know the Middle Eastern scenario. No doubt no country enjoys a zero crime rate. But you can't even compare it with India. The reason is quite simple, because ca[ital punishment makes them think again. Just like Indians still feel murder is the biggest crime. Although Rape should be treated at par with murder. That's the Shariah Law.
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by khaleel ulrahaman on Feb 22, 2007 03:37 PM Permalink
hail the religion not the partial followers and people with half knowledge(more dangerours than the fool). let us speak about the society as a whole first we will produce films, soap operas depicting, printing the photos of humans by so called MODERN CIVILIZATION with minimum clothes and maximum fleshy, and vulgar relations. commone let us discuss on this. Change start from your house. let us do it
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by Ram Mahbubani on Feb 23, 2007 05:17 AM Permalink
why are you deviating from the original topic???? We are discussing getting justice for the poor 16 yr old... & you are bringing ISlam into the pcture.... SHame on you....
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by Peace For All on Feb 22, 2007 03:24 PM Permalink
come on guys... Please dont bring religion in between this topic at least... Cant we all agree on some thing without having to fight each other on religion...
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by sameer bhosale on Feb 22, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
MR.Ahmed Tofel, Tell me what wrong Nishu has said? In fact mr. Mohd Haris does not seem to have brains.If the islam was such a great religion,then tell me as to why the Islamists are more intolerant,communal,bloodthirsty,polygamous and always on warpath than others who belong to different faiths.Pl. be more civil in your comments as you are borned in the civilised country like india!
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by ahmad tofel on Feb 22, 2007 04:40 PM Permalink
Dear Brother smaeer, I got angry because she wrote whole islaam iz wrong.tell me frankly is it possible that all muslim are like that..may be bcos of such comments all may turn in future..i got angry cos most of the muslim i knw truly love india..still u people use bad words for them..for eg. if one brother of a faimly is bad..does it means that whole faimly is BAD..I HOPE U WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN..
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by Dastagir shaikh on Feb 22, 2007 03:45 PM Permalink
sorry miss nishu our indian goverment is not allowed shariah law here. oherwise that rapist also hanged by shariah law. thanx.
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by aisha khan on Feb 22, 2007 03:31 PM Permalink
One should always be mindful of his/her language while posting comments on a site open to public viewing. What Mohd. Haris has said above is one of the opinions, which are gaining more strength and ground as incidents of rape and murder keep incraesing many fold every year, regardless of official statistics. You could have better suggested any other remedies, rather than slamming 'idiotic islamic supporters'. Your type of language generates bad taste.
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by BlurBlur on Feb 22, 2007 03:24 PM Permalink
Agreed, that the rapist has been a barbaric in committing the act. But by stoning that person to death, what does say of the judiciary? Lets get away from the dark ages. Lets not stoop down to the same level as the rapist!
Though I dont believe in capital punishment, lets keep that debate for another time. In this specific cases the various departments must get their act together and provide quick justice to the victim and if the person is found guilty and deserves capital punishment it must oly be done in a way that respects another human life albeit a rapist.
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by on Feb 22, 2007 03:19 PM Permalink
The rapes are happening also in the countries having Shariah law but the women are even more down-trodden there and the cases never get reported.
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by on Feb 22, 2007 03:20 PM Permalink
I perfectly agree with you.. Punishments should be harder so that crime rate will decrease
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by nishu on Feb 22, 2007 03:22 PM Permalink
It makes me feel sorry for islamic people that they are so blind-folded that they cant see anything above their damn religion...so back-trodden and narrow thinking that they cant think independent from islam stuff ..
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by BlurBlur on Feb 22, 2007 03:32 PM Permalink
Break down a debate with some swearing Typical response...just what I expected! So doesnt surprise me!
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by Peace For All on Feb 22, 2007 03:26 PM Permalink
come on guys... Please dont bring religion in between this topic at least... Cant we all agree on some thing without having to fight each other on religion... it is not islam we are discussing here... but the punishment (Being stoned to death) And i do support that it would be one of the best punishment to be given to a rapist...
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by BlurBlur on Feb 22, 2007 03:46 PM Permalink
Stoned to death...best punishment...where are you from? You seem to be just as bad as the rapist! It may happen in a society that lives in dark ages but not in a modern society.
India is a modern country and does not not need any such barbaric punishments. Seems like you have safely stashed up all the teachings like "Condenm the sin, but not the sinner".
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by Mathew Mundenparampil on Feb 22, 2007 03:22 PM Permalink
Such incidents do not appear in print and visual media in Middle East. So, do not know the real picture there.
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by Mohd Haris on Feb 23, 2007 12:45 AM Permalink
Such incidents do not happen in print? How baseless. Read my above reply, and lemme add this: Khaleej Times (newspaper) is one of the most sought after newspaper, most respected and most neutral newspapers in the Middle East. (not one country, I said Middle East). Go check the media power of the Middle East on Wikipedia.
Its amazing how people comment without backing up their statements.
Our judicial system is sickening. All our efforts have been to grow economically but no one has ever considered to ovehaul this rotten judicial system. Is it that the present system benefits the politicians and they do not want the things to change for good????
RE:Judicial System
by abdul rehman on Feb 22, 2007 03:18 PM Permalink
IF ANY ONE HAS THE EMAIL ID OF THE PRESIDENT OF INDAI , PLZ PROVIDE AND WE CAN START SENDING EMAILS DIRECT TO PRESIDENT OF INDIA
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by Gautham Hegde on Feb 22, 2007 03:41 PM Permalink
by Gautham Hegde on Feb 22, 2007 03:40 PM President of India's Mail Id , Guys please mail him regarding this let the girl have justice and avenge her humilation thean for the life she wants to end.
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by israel nadar on Feb 22, 2007 03:22 PM Permalink
i tell that the investigation has to be taken througly because now a days girls/women misuse the rules i.e they lie on certain matters
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by Navnit Singh on Feb 22, 2007 03:25 PM Permalink
would a woman send a letter to president and telling the whole world that she has been raped just to misuse the rules.
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by Gopi nath on Feb 22, 2007 03:54 PM Permalink
Dear Navneeth, I agree with you. And it has to be done by her parents and they must be supported by society and nation at large ! LET'S all stand firm behind the girl and fight it out !!
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by Gopi nath on Feb 22, 2007 03:38 PM Permalink
Dear Navneeth, I agree with you. And it has to be done by her parents and they must be supported by society and nation at large ! LET'S all stand firm behind the girl and fight it out !!
RE:Please help the girl.
by abdul rehman on Feb 22, 2007 03:20 PM Permalink
IF ANY BODY HELP US BY GETTING US EMAIL ID OF THE PRESIDENT OF INDIA WE CAN START SENDING EMAILS DIRECTLY TO THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF.PLZ HELP THIS GIRL.
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by Gautham Hegde on Feb 22, 2007 03:41 PM Permalink
by Gautham Hegde on Feb 22, 2007 03:40 PM President of India's Mail Id , Guys please mail him regarding this let the girl have justice and avenge her humilation thean for the life she wants to end.
RE:Has the letter reached president or not. After all indian postal system is also great
by mihir on Feb 22, 2007 03:18 PM Permalink
if it land raj bhavan, will it be able to clear the babus sitting there. and then this babu, that babu, ulta babu, nalayak babu, sota hua babu. mutata hua babu. nanga babu etc etc. Hey girl i think you are right, better end your life. atleast you will be at peace.
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by abdul rehman on Feb 22, 2007 03:21 PM Permalink
IF ANY BODY HELP US BY GETTING US EMAIL ID OF THE PRESIDENT OF INDIA WE CAN START SENDING EMAILS DIRECTLY TO THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF.PLZ HELP THIS GIRL.
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by Gautham Hegde on Feb 22, 2007 03:40 PM Permalink
President of India's Mail Id , Guys please mail him regarding this let the girl have justice and avenge her humilation thean for the life she wants to end.
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by abu thomas on Feb 22, 2007 03:23 PM Permalink
i agree with kalka.unless otherwise u change the system, nothing will happen in India. Even with everything in place, it takes years for the law to take its course.let shariat law be with m.east countries. then, we will end up with bomb for bomb, burning for burning.let's start and act sensibly and one day our wards may become victims.
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by SRINIVASA REDDY on Feb 22, 2007 03:23 PM Permalink
U R right Awtar, Hang or shoot the rapists and telecast. Rape rate will definetly go down.
Rapist should be hang till death at the earliest. Such incidents happens because of sick people like these. they want to satisfy their sexual desire there are plenty of options are there now-a-days making girl friends for sex is very easiy and other hand lots of bar girls/pros are there they will ready to do anything for money, i dont know why they took such a disaster step like rape?????
I salute this girl for the courage shown by her. I understand her plight and I think it should make the head of all of us Indians hang in shame, not only for the fact that rapes aer so common in India, or that the influential people try to subvert the process of criminal investigation and justice, but also the fact that it takes a letter to the President of India to ensure justice.
I hope the President of India looks into the matter, and I hope his intervention and the media-awareness created by this letter ensure quick justice.
But what about the thousands of other girls who may have been raped many years ago, and the court cases may be just going on?
I feel that the judicial system needs some quick revamps. Regarding rape cases, I feel:
- a rape case must be mandatorily decided within six months, - hearings should be on a daily basis and in camera, - the defense lawyers must be sternly warned by the judges in case they try to ask humiliating questions to the victim or malign the character of the victim. A defense lawyer trespassing such limits should be barred from participating in any rape cases in future.
According to me, rape is the worst crime on humanity. It is worse than murder. A murder victim is dead once for all, a rape victim, at least in Indian society, has to die a thousand deaths, day in and day out.
A rape convict must be mandatorily given a death sentence. In fact, they should be publicly lynched. Some human rights activists may say that lynching is inhuman. Is rape any less inhuman?
RE:Judicial system needs to be made accountable and sensitive
by abdul rehman on Feb 22, 2007 03:23 PM Permalink
IF ANY BODY HELP US BY GETTING US EMAIL ID OF THE PRESIDENT OF INDIA WE CAN START SENDING EMAILS DIRECTLY TO THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF.PLZ HELP THIS GIRL.
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by Prasanna K R on Feb 22, 2007 03:39 PM Permalink
Abdul, Please use this link to address President of India http://presidentofindia.nic.in/
plz she should get justice , the culprit along with his family members should b behind the bars, wat a shame 4 our country to have people lk them, i think even capital punishment is not enogh 4 them.sumi .
How many feel a public castration is the best punishement for rape... ??? The rapist will have to live the rest of his life in indignity & shame for his act... Hanging is not the punishement for rapists....
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by on Feb 22, 2007 03:23 PM Permalink
ISLAM gives a perfect solution to such crime.. Kill the btard by stoning him till he dies........Punishments should be harder so that crimes should decrease
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by Ram Mahbubani on Feb 22, 2007 03:12 PM Permalink
Dear friends... death is momentary... It will be finished... The rapist should be made to suffer like the victim....
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by gandhi on Feb 22, 2007 03:15 PM Permalink
I agree with you ... his head should be shaven and kicked naked around the city
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by Jessica DSouza on Feb 22, 2007 03:20 PM Permalink
Very true. Such people shud be given a taste of shame and embarassment. They shud be rendered useless cos even if they decide to have a repeat of the act they will not be able to.
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by Peace For All on Feb 22, 2007 03:07 PM Permalink
i agree with you completely my friend... These rapists should be punished in such a way that nobody else has the guts to look at women in a bad way...
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by jayesh on Feb 22, 2007 03:11 PM Permalink
Hw abt remove the organ used for this worst thing.With immediate effect after he prooved guilty.
I think death would be too less for sick people like these... They should be put in to solitary confinement for life where they will have to cry alone repenting the day he decided to do this heniou act... And when i mean solitary confinement for life it is not the 14 years according to our judiciary... I mean for life till that sick pervert dies
