RE:Pakistan Blasts
by Santa on Feb 19, 2007 07:07 PM Permalink
So many people have been killed and your display of apathy towards lost lives sounds sick.
Train balsts should now encourage both the countries to reunite and give answer to terrorist.Becuase it's not a pakistani or indian who died ...but a human being who had a faith to live another movement for his family.
RE:Reunite India and Pakistan
by sumit goyal on Feb 19, 2007 03:39 PM Permalink
It hardly matters Mr. Paras...... people do not recognize the religion of death....coz there is no religion for death.... and till they are alive....till they will not meet death......a secular place....
It is highly dubious that anything can be materialised under indo-pak anti terror mechanism in the absence of unstinted cooperation and cordination from pak side.
I am in real pain knowing 64 people got killed in such a ghastly act. Some cowardly ba***ds have again reminded us, through such a painful inhuman statement, that they still exist, despite billions being spent to make them extinct. My heart felt condolences to the aggrieved families. I am feeling ashamed that we could not provide safety to our guests.
I also went through the comments posted by the readers here, which were further, a revelation for me. Are we so divided as 'country men'? And when shall we stop using religion as a veil to forward our arguments of half baked truths? No religion advocates killing of innocents, to propagate personal agenda. Every time such terrorist killings take place I see we all are jumping to conclusions blaming each other. Are we not playing into the hands of those who want us to remain divided? Also to our learned friends, who keep on pointing fingers at the Gujrat establishment, no doubt there were slippages in now infamous 'Godhra incident' yet the real-initiators of the incident are never talked about (unfortunately that was also a Burning Train incident). So, for every episode there has been a Religion based justification, how so ever wrong & unfortunate it may be. Please leave the religion alone and let it remain what it was & is meant to be a guiding, healing loving and a spiritual force.
As for Pakistan is concerned, we can not do away with geography, so it is in our own interest to stop extreme radicalization of our neighborhood. I think the initiatives like Samjhuta Express are good mechanisms to propagate friendly neighborhood ties. When people will interact at grass root level than only the fear of each other will mitigate, understanding would increase and long lasting peace will dawn on this sub-continent.
RE:Pain, Religion and Pakistan.....
by Raj Aryan on Feb 19, 2007 01:23 PM Permalink
In 99% of the terrorist attacks it's only the aam admi.i.e. common man who will be killed. Terrorists are cleaver enough not to kill any plitician, b'coz the politicians are doing the same job of terrorists in a better way. I think in India people have to fear politicians more than terrorists, b'coz a terrorists most of the times does not know what they are doing & these people are being misutilised by politicians for their personal gains. No politician & political party has shown or will show any willingness to root out terrorism & terrorists. Now after this incident, we will hear the same familiar noise. Our puppet PM who has been recently received a award "Indian of the year" from a well known but biased TV channel will give familiar statement condemning the incident. BJP will blame center.Left will blame Hindutva. Laloo will also blame BJP. People & media will talk about this for next few days. Life goes now. There will be another terrorist incident & the sequence will be repeated again.People are used to these incident now. I mean it's part of our daily life. We people of India who are always fighting amongst ourselves b'coz of caste, creed and on communal lines , never realise that it's the politicians who have to punished first. We need to get rid of all the politicians in this country. Any person who calls himself politicians have to be booted out. Inshort, we need a revolution.
Lets talk about internal hatred first. Karnataka politics is fuming hatred and racism by pushing IT profs and school/college children to do dharna attacking TN on kaveri issue. Is this what our education has taught us? We the generation plan to demolish Religion and caste racism but now caught in region racism. On the other side in TN, the ppl are cool as cucumber not bothering all these. Shame on us. hats off to politicians
RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by Raj Aryan on Feb 19, 2007 01:58 PM Permalink
Tamilians are never bothered about any issues concerning our nation.
RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by Ranga Krishnan on Feb 19, 2007 05:49 PM Permalink
Raj Aryan
Earlier I have rightly called you as Half Baked.
Your concern is that we never protested against reservation and Right to information. As per the Govt I belong to a forward community and I am against the reservation. But on the other side because of reservation we never applied for any Govt. jobs and many of my family members are in abroad and top MNCs. That is the story everywhere. That is why now TN has over taken Kerala for the FIRST position in getting over seas employment. 99 % of the forward community family consists one child (Beware of back ware Lallu) and none of them interested in less attractive Govt Jobs. Already huge numbers of Private Colleges are here in Tamil Nadu to take care of our education.
More over NGOs like VOICE and Mr. Vijayan Advocate is there to protest. Then why street fight?
Right to information Act is another rubbish where the RED TAPS never reveals any thing.
What is the use of your protest and how much you got succeeded?.
RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by joen jenson on Feb 19, 2007 02:26 PM Permalink
very good. finally we are in separtion in the name of lanuguages. tell me here openly what the problem u faced because of tamil.my e mail is is jensonmadurai@rediffmail.com. please explain openly or in my e mail. let me check and explain if u need anything. please tell me Mr. Raj Aryan what national issues, we lacked. give me fruitfull and healthy reply please.
RE:RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by execute on Feb 19, 2007 02:47 PM Permalink
I don't know about Tamilians, but friend tell me one thing why u people like Film actors so much?
RE:RE:RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by joen jenson on Feb 19, 2007 04:41 PM Permalink
baba, it is not only tamilnadu. even in kannada , andra everywhere it is . why north indians never like film acttos and actress
RE:RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by Raj Aryan on Feb 19, 2007 03:25 PM Permalink
Issues like reservation, right to information etc, when the whole nation was agitating the TN was cool like cucumbur. We haven't heard of agitation in TN gainst any mainstream national issues. We have always heard agitatios happening in Karnataka & AP, but nevr in TN. I think b'coz they are ignorant about nationl issues & the only tamil issues concern them. This is my understanding.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by joen jenson on Feb 19, 2007 04:40 PM Permalink
Mr. Raj use ur words correctly.ok.you donot have any rights to tell us that cucumber. i know about kannadians.behave urself and be cool always
RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by Ranga Krishnan on Feb 19, 2007 05:30 PM Permalink
May be, Because we (TAMILS) never make nation to bother. That is the reason.
RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by rajesh prabhu on Feb 19, 2007 02:33 PM Permalink
Karnataka farmers are loosing 1000s of rupees of these dharna as they are not able to bring load to the city market. The vegetables hence are priced thrice. Now tell me who is affected because of this kannadigas or tamilans? for whom is this protest for? everyone knows TN is not affected in any way by this but these protests are only making life miserable for all kannadigas in bangalore. The karnataka bandh caused Rs.500crore loss to the state.
RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by joen amalan arockia jenson on Feb 19, 2007 02:39 PM Permalink
rajesh, it is better not to discuss this kind of things in here. let them enjoy the benefit from thier act. donot blame others. this is my suggestion only
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by Ranga Krishnan on Feb 19, 2007 05:33 PM Permalink
Half Baked Raj Aryan, Yes.May be, Because we (TAMILS) never make nation to bother. That is the reason. OR May be becuse We have deputed a fellow Tamilian to take care of whole INDIA and he is there in Rastrapathi Bhavan to bother.
RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by Raj Aryan on Feb 19, 2007 06:11 PM Permalink
What about your CM distrbuting free bies from govt exchequer??? Where ahve all so called intellectuals gone?? what disn't you guys protest?? Instead of shedding crocodile tears for the losses of neighbouring states?? People living in glass houses should not throw stones at others??
RE:RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by Ranga Krishnan on Feb 19, 2007 07:47 PM Permalink
My Dear Half Baked Raj Aryan,
One thing is clear. You are against Tamils. Read my earlier reply. You called Tamils as Cucumber. Have you heard the Name %u201CDHANU%u201D the first human bomb of the world? She is a Tamil lady. Still the Tiger Prabagaran is Tamil. And the crooked Veerappan. If necessity comes each cucumber will become a bomb. But we are not adopting that culture. If you know counting then count how many finance ministers to central govt is from Tamil Nadu. And how many Tamils are in the Govt formation in abroad. Can you specify some your greats. I guess all will ZEROS and ZEROS. Put a full stop to your Nonsense.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by Raj Aryan on Feb 20, 2007 09:11 AM Permalink
I need not elaborate. Your words says it all. If people like Dhanu,Verappan, Prabhakaran.. are your inspiration, then we all can imagine what kind of a people you are!!! Most hilarious is you are calling them greats!!! Want to know some greats from karnataka then here they are:Sir M.Vishvehwaraiah, Naryayana Murthy, G.R.Vishwanath, Dravid, Javagal Srinath, U.R.Rao, Girish Karnad etc..list goes on. Dude, don't take panga with others..for every person his state & his mother language is always great. No state or language becomes greater by insulting other people,state or language. Nothing wrong with loving his state or language, fanatism in any form is bad for Indian fedral structure.You are calling me Half Baked , that shows ur culture & backup.Hope someday you understand. If you can't I can't help it!!!
RE:RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by joen jenson on Feb 19, 2007 06:34 PM Permalink
our CM not spend other state's money.ok.We the peoples know what we have to do. You Fox donot interfer n our internal matter. ok.We never blame or tears for neighbours . If u donot know how to answer, then keep calm. donot use bad words and all. all our family have 2 children maximum.all are nowadays educating. what do u meaning of national issues tell me man. Abdul Kalam from tamilnadu. Do u remember or not.if u tell tamils are cucumber, then abdul kalam also cucumber? is it right so? tell me Mr.Aryan.donot argue for sake fun. be carefull on ur words. or tell me ur mobile number, we will have direct conversations.ok. donot hide in some other name and shout there. tell me which part of india. so that everybody will understand the state
RE:RE:RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by Raj Aryan on Feb 19, 2007 06:38 PM Permalink
Ouch.. it really hurts right???? Apply some cauvery water!!!!
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by joen jenson on Feb 19, 2007 06:42 PM Permalink
why we have to apply for cauvery water. tell me which state u from. not having that much stuff u bluffing here. better close ur mouth. ok bye dear.i have to adjust like this kind indian for the sake of india.
RE:RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by joen jenson on Feb 19, 2007 01:55 PM Permalink
please tell me the tamil fanaticism which u experienced please. but i am not accept the words or rajesh in some corner
RE:RE:RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by ultimate patriot on Feb 19, 2007 02:20 PM Permalink
I can tell you what I experienced but not on this public forum, but thru email if you could provide me yours.. I dont want all the people here to have a prejudiced view regarding Tamils after reading my horrific experiences.. I still consider some Tamils to be very nice fellows.. Its only a minority which is fanatic..
RE:RE:RE:RE:Internal hatred to be addressed first
by Ranga Krishnan on Feb 19, 2007 05:27 PM Permalink
Hello DHANESH, You are wrong. Tamil Nadu is the only sate in India where gen Public never support any agitation in the name of language. May be small group of politicians do some nonsence but not an average Tamilian . I am Telugu man living in Tamil Nadu. That is why Rajnikanth never faces any threat here. But what is happening in Karnataka. Tamilians are Broad Minded. That is why Tamil and Tamilians are ruling Singapore, Malasia, Srilanka and ReUnien Island and ofcourse INDIA. Please change your mind set.
Its a high time to use any sort of mechanisms as our neighbours are also feeling the heat of terrorism, Strict tactics should be followed to tackle with this sort of situation. Laws should be made more strict to deal with the accused involved in such sort of destructive activity. Pyscology of both the countries should change towards terrorism & citizens should also understand that nation comes first instead of religion.
No matter how much hue and cry you make out of this issue, for governments and policy makers it is just another incident. They won't tell you so.
In next couple of weeks, Manmohan and his gang will make fresh rhetorics or may repeat the old ones. Media would try to show its social responsibility and would criticise the goverment inattentiveness and would also preach us to be attentive and then once all these hogwash talks are over, everything gets back to where it was.
The real problem is that we don't know what is the problem. if only recognize it, we can solve it. Everything seems to impossible that we leave it to the fate and carry our daily chores and wait for another such incident only to stop a while and then proceed further.
RE:Just another incident!!
by anal shah on Feb 19, 2007 01:00 PM Permalink
Hello Mr Ajay Mishra,
I agree to what you have said here up to certain extent but it is not the way exactly you are saying. Our govt. has adopted this method of peace from the begining and as Gandhiji has said that an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. The way you have mentioned for the media it is certainly true that it is just a sizzling issu for them to sell their product and after this they will critisise the politics for the same thing to be in the market. I think we rather than commenting on govt. or media we should discuss and think what would be its effect on our developing economy. We are still staybilising our economy and if we think of some kind of revenge or we just take back our hand for/seeking co-operation is going to affect us only and when ever our leader's come to some decision they must have some long term effects of it in their minds which can help us in growth. There is always a better way to do things our challenge is to find it and i think our leaders are doing it in a very good manner.
RE:RE:Just another incident!!
by Ajay Mishra on Feb 19, 2007 02:47 PM Permalink
I really don't think that the current government policies are made for the long term development of our nation. In fact, long term goals require bold policy moves and I have never found a strong policy move by Manmohan gang until now. They just want to maximise their political gains, and they are very good at it. For instance, reservation bill which was passed amazingly quickly, sachar committee recommendations were enacted even before we knew what the heck committee was made up for. I am not against social equity or religious harmony, but I am against the way the goverment use these issues to gain political mileage.
In fact, to really judge upon the goverment performance, we don't even have to use all the facts and stories floating around on internet. Let's be simple and try to answer these questions: -- Do the goverment policies ever seem to be made in good spirit? -- Don't you always get either confused or agitated when you try to evaluate the policies rationally? -- Is your neighborhood safer than before? Are you paying more for same standard of living, pls don't include rise in number of TV series as a factor in deciding living standard? I guess you can verify yourself that Manmohan gang is not doing any good to us. And we don't control them in anyway.
So, what I wanted point out was "Government is not acting in people's long term benefit which explains why even these heinous crimes against our own people seem not enough for them to act and prevent their recurrence".
Finally, there is another explanation that in fact goverment is unable to prevent such incidents at all. it might be true, but it's very scary to imagine that we are all on our own.
RE:Just another incident!!
by piyush bakshi on Feb 19, 2007 01:50 PM Permalink
the problem ajay is that the hindu is beseiged by impotence that lord krishna mentions in the Gita, rotten politicians are selfish and hindus are equally selfish and cold-hearted to what happens in the country, we refuse to accept our responsibility as the majority population of this country and let politicians and pseudo-secularists which includes the media, dictate to us. mother india does not deserve this, peace mechanisms with rogue pakistan will not work. the silly surd and the italian madame could be least bothered, the hindu in this country has still not been able to understand as to why after all was this country divided in the name of religion, does this mean that muslim dominated areas will again cede from india, it confuses and angers the hindu but he is too weak mentally to ask questions from the media and the politicians. rotten ppl point out ULFA and LTTE as hindu terrorists, are they really? or have they been spawned by the state? muslims are into anti-national activities all over the world wherever they are present, have they or the pseudo secularists ever attempeted any introspection? but maybe the spunkless and spineless hindus that venerate ppl like gandhi and nehru deserve this.
