Our politicians condemn the incident. Our PM issues his usual statement saying that terrorism will be dealt firmly. Nobody will take him seriously.And he knows this. But he has to issue that statement. As usual Left & Laloo will blame Hindutava forces. BJP hold central govt responsible for being too soft on terrorists.Police as usual will be clueless. Police will blame terrorists from across the border. They make some arrests based on suspicion. Media will get a lot of fodder to talk about this for next few days. NDTV & IBN live will conduct chat programmes where the so called intellectuals & pseudo secualrists will join together & express their opinion that Pakistan cannot be involved in this & hint that it is a handiwork of Hindutva forces. For a Common man like you & me, it's one more tragedy. We thank ourselves for being lucky one more time. And we get busy with our work. Life goes on. After some days of lull one more incident will happen & the same sequence of events are repeated. But still the life goes on.
This is how we lead our life in India. Human life does not have any value here. Nobody cares for others. Indian Middle Class & educated people, even though they are alive, they are as good as dead & buried.
And lastly most of the people who call themseleves as educated, "Do Not Even Vote" in the general elections.
Until & unless everybody concerned decides to clean the system, this will continue. Most of are waiting for the whole system to change on it's own which is not possible.
In all of the hate mongering mails the message of hatred against the muslims is overwhelming -
i.e; PURE and UTTER hate against the muslims whether or not they are Indians or Pakistanis, and yet very little or non-existent tripe against Hindus!
And YET the hindus talk about muslims to remain peaceful and in acceptance or else....
"kick a man while he is down and don;t expect him to answer back" -just like the whole world and in particular the Americans are doing around the world!!
Give muslims equal rights, employment and social rights, stop the massacres at the scale of Gujrat and then perhaps, maybe maybe there will be a chance for peace and harmony!
(PS: I wished the violence of the moghuls referred to by Sukhwinder Singh was meted out enough to turn his forefathers into muslims -perhaps some of his relatives were, and he now finds himself hating his niece and nephews -isn't this a strange world!!)
HEY u spawn of a whore and a 100 maniacs.. Heeed this!
I dont beleieve in reincarnation BUT Your post has lead me to ponder on that; no one could get that dumb in just one lifetime. HAHA Just as the strength of a solitary brick will not save a poorly built structure, your capital typeface does not redeem your craven incoherent words.
U have nothing in that article that warrnats any1s let alone my reply !
I never in my post looked downn on ur (or any other) religion. Just the very fact that me raising genuine questions (on 911) and u not being able to come up wid a decent sentence let alone a reply is proof enuf of 911 being a conspiracy!
Another notion that is quite clear in ur "reply" (hardly a reply... its mere blasphemy.. no point raised watsoever) is ur UTMOST hatred for The true religion - ISLAM. U ask us muslims to leave for Pakistan...as thats our state.
If u really were to award a state to MUSLIMS then it shoyld not have been a state as small as PAkistan. It should have been much muich bigger. BUT that land was not for all teh muslims.... WE MUSLIMS fought juzz as much for INDIAAAAA as any other--if not more.
Pak creation was the evil brainchild of the cunning BRITISH -- who both the govts now embrace wid honour and dignity. THEY DIVIDED US.... WE WERE ONE.... Those rats!
Now my pint is that Pak was not an even distribution of land if it was based on religion.. OS u cant ask me to leave my country for which MY ancestors fought! kapish?
Now thatur first pint has veen negated..lets move on to the next.
U say Muslims /Islam is voilent! u Dullard, thats exactly why i rote my earlier post. Ppl have been made to beleive that islam is voilent--they ahve been intentionally stereotyped as voilent terrorists-- Because Christianity is NOT intimidated by SM clowns worshipping elephants, cows, snakes and sun and the moon... n sm barely clad GODESSES of urs --who btw are known to have also been RAPED in ur own religious books-- correct me if i m rong---
SO CHRISTIANITY is not intimidated BY Hinduism (or Sikhism/Bhuddism/Jainism for that matter) Its only afraid of ISLAM taking over as the PEOPLES religion. (Islam is the fastest GROWING RELIGION n thats a fact that worries all the missionaries and teh devout christians...cause most of the converts are christians)
So they portray ISLAM in bad light so that ppl stay away frm this enlightemnment. n since sadly the muslim media is no match for teh CNNs, BBCs and AAJTAK, IBN, FOXs, SKYs and NDTVs of the world TEHY can projext ISlam in any lght they want.
If this wasnt true then how can u explain the manner in which the "ALL KNOWING MEDIA" has overlooked ALL the sceintific and logical angles of teh 911 and that indeed it was a conspiracy! They should atleast have properly answered/ brought to ppls attention the illogical explaiantions of the WTC towers pancaking one floor onto other. Science and physics have PROVED it beyond doubt that The WETC towers could NOT have Pancaked onto one another and were indeed taken down by planed explosives. The time in which they came down was 8 sec and 10 sec for South and North towers respectively. Thats exactly the time it would take if the fallw as FREEFALL i.e. unsresited by the undamaged floors downstairs.
A pancake collapse (which is the official explaiation) would have taken 1min 45 seconds whereas the towers took juzz 8 and 10 secs to collapse. ---> Simple SCIENCE has proved it! N if thats not enuf ... hows tis: NO BUILDING EVER EVeR EVeR has come down due to fire... in the history of civil engineering! EVERRR! (n yah the jetfuel fires CANNOT reach temperatures that can mely steel... i repeat CANNOTTT..u can check that fact if u like?)
Is juzz that not reason enuffor the media to atleast QUESTION that official reasoning???
HUH? uknow hwy they wont question it.. cause it aint MUSLIM media and their causse is being furthered if ISLAM can be taken out and taken down.
BUT guess wat... the more they try to MISLEAD us the more will ppl understand their menacing PLOT and even more ppl will keep converting to the TRUE religion sent by GOD to MANKIND via PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH)!
INSHALLAH! ALLAHU AKBAR --> meaning GOD IS GREAT!
GOOD DAY 2 all!
(Please read my other post for teh 911 facts and questions that i have rasied , in this section itself --POST by Tabish)
RE:To sukhvinder singh from TABISH
by Suman Bhat on Feb 20, 2007 10:36 PM Permalink
india. upa govt policy are against mejority. wakeup call for hindus. whole world knows that pakistan is epic centre of terrorism and pakistan role was proved in all bomb blast and suicidal attack in other coutnries. Some of UPA ministers are agents of isi and work for pakistan mullas. upa govt gave cleanchit to pakistani army and isi and removed pota and even protecting proven terrorists like afgal. The blame will go on hindu orgs. more cbms and friendships with pakistan makes it easy for pak sponsered terrorists blast in future. this is warnig for hindus about coming attack /hindu slaughter in future. UPA govt give this example to support terrorists attack shame on upa.How can india fight a terrorism with country which is supporting and training terrorism. Pakistan media can answer or feeling pain for 26% hindus disappered to reduce minority population to 01% in last 60 yrs in pakistan. Just 1000 hindus in Karachi city are staying without a buryal ground. Even Pakistan HRC worried about the kidnapping of hindu girls and raping them and converting them to islam
more cooperation , cbms more blasts never turst pakis
pakistan is terror country and pakistini rulers are not trustwortywho is killing muslim bors and sis in Pakistan, afagnistan, iran, palestian somalia, iraq ?? Why all bombblast in newyork, mardid, bali, egypt, jordan lodon indonesia thiland, phllipines are caused by pakistani linked / trained terrories who is butchering sindies in baluchistan?/Befroe the point your fingers to hindu orgs try to clean your own soul and house and temple When EX PM started lahore bus service, he was gifted with kargil war which took life of 2500 soldiers and more than 13000 jawans injured. Pak and devil musharaf did not take dead bodies But in his book LOC he mentioned that pakistan army suffered in kargil war Musharaf is liar, supporters and he isi are responsilbe for butchery done kahsmiri hindus and poor sindie sin baluchistan UPA is making blunder by forming joint machanism to counter terrorism shame on upa kahsmir mniorities hindus have become 18% to 2% in last 60 yrs. In bangaldesh 30% to 7% and in pakistan 26% to 01 % what happhened to minorities in thsee muslim dominated islamic countries It is not only pakistan / isi but also some isi agents in upa govt and ind media are to be blamed. The joint machanism to counter terrorism is nothing but promote and strengthen the jihadi terrorists hands and blame the hindus. hindu community must be ready to face more attack and more slaugher in coming deay. this blast will be support for upa gvot inactiong agaisnt terrorists.congress helped genocidal masscare of hindus from valley now congress commes and paki terorists adopting same to all over india. upa govt policy are against mejority. wakeup call for hindus.
HEY u spawn of a whore and a 100 maniacs.. Heeed this!
I dont beleieve in reincarnation BUT Your post has lead me to ponder on that; no one could get that dumb in just one lifetime. HAHA Just as the strength of a solitary brick will not save a poorly built structure, your capital typeface does not redeem your craven incoherent words.
U have nothing in that article that warrnats any1s let alone my reply !
I never in my post looked downn on ur (or any other) religion. Just the very fact that me raising genuine questions (on 911) and u not being able to come up wid a decent sentence let alone a reply is proof enuf of 911 being a conspiracy!
Another notion that is quite clear in ur "reply" (hardly a reply... its mere blasphemy.. no point raised watsoever) is ur UTMOST hatred for The true religion - ISLAM. U ask us muslims to leave for Pakistan...as thats our state.
If u really were to award a state to MUSLIMS then it shoyld not have been a state as small as PAkistan. It should have been much muich bigger. BUT that land was not for all teh muslims.... WE MUSLIMS fought juzz as much for INDIAAAAA as any other--if not more.
Pak creation was the evil brainchild of the cunning BRITISH -- who both the govts now embrace wid honour and dignity. THEY DIVIDED US.... WE WERE ONE.... Those rats!
Now my pint is that Pak was not an even distribution of land if it was based on religion.. OS u cant ask me to leave my country for which MY ancestors fought! kapish?
Now thatur first pint has veen negated..lets move on to the next.
U say Muslims /Islam is voilent! u Dullard, thats exactly why i rote my earlier post. Ppl have been made to beleive that islam is voilent--they ahve been intentionally stereotyped as voilent terrorists-- Because Christianity is NOT intimidated by SM clowns worshipping elephants, cows, snakes and sun and the moon... n sm barely clad GODESSES of urs --who btw are known to have also been RAPED in ur own religious books-- correct me if i m rong---
SO CHRISTIANITY is not intimidated BY Hinduism (or Sikhism/Bhuddism/Jainism for that matter) Its only afraid of ISLAM taking over as the PEOPLES religion. (Islam is the fastest GROWING RELIGION n thats a fact that worries all the missionaries and teh devout christians...cause most of the converts are christians)
So they portray ISLAM in bad light so that ppl stay away frm this enlightemnment. n since sadly the muslim media is no match for teh CNNs, BBCs and AAJTAK, IBN, FOXs, SKYs and NDTVs of the world TEHY can projext ISlam in any lght they want.
If this wasnt true then how can u explain the manner in which the "ALL KNOWING MEDIA" has overlooked ALL the sceintific and logical angles of teh 911 and that indeed it was a conspiracy! They should atleast have properly answered/ brought to ppls attention the illogical explaiantions of the WTC towers pancaking one floor onto other. Science and physics have PROVED it beyond doubt that The WETC towers could NOT have Pancaked onto one another and were indeed taken down by planed explosives. The time in which they came down was 8 sec and 10 sec for South and North towers respectively. Thats exactly the time it would take if the fallw as FREEFALL i.e. unsresited by the undamaged floors downstairs.
A pancake collapse (which is the official explaiation) would have taken 1min 45 seconds whereas the towers took juzz 8 and 10 secs to collapse. ---> Simple SCIENCE has proved it! N if thats not enuf ... hows tis: NO BUILDING EVER EVeR EVeR has come down due to fire... in the history of civil engineering! EVERRR! (n yah the jetfuel fires CANNOT reach temperatures that can mely steel... i repeat CANNOTTT..u can check that fact if u like?)
Is juzz that not reason enuffor the media to atleast QUESTION that official reasoning???
HUH? uknow hwy they wont question it.. cause it aint MUSLIM media and their causse is being furthered if ISLAM can be taken out and taken down.
BUT guess wat... the more they try to MISLEAD us the more will ppl understand their menacing PLOT and even more ppl will keep converting to the TRUE religion sent by GOD to MANKIND via PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH)!
INSHALLAH! ALLAHU AKBAR --> meaning GOD IS GREAT!
GOOD DAY 2 all!
(Please read my other post for teh 911 facts and questions that i have rasied , in this section itself --POST by Tabish)
I am completely against the creation of PAK. I beleive that we Pakistan was
sukhwinder singh u sound like a typical VHP/RSS shiv sena pimp....its because of dirt like you that the there cant be peace in this country.. so hinduism peaceful??....what about gujarat , ayodhya.. & christainism is are peaceful?how do u think the whole of s.america was converted? Islam teaches to fight against injustice & defend itself...that why the americans are getting their ass kicked & this'll happen to anyone else who tries to suppress islam..
so u want to tell muslims to go to pakistan.....bcoz its like dharavi, i'll tell u what, if u havbe any balls, go to dharavi & bhendi bazaar & tell the muslims there to go pakistan!!!
otherwise quit venting ur frustrations on web forums!
I am surprised to find that instead of finding the shortcommings of the system and accusing terrorists for their cowardice people from both the communities are indulging in matters which they should not.There is no right and no wrong with any religion and its teachings.The wrong is the approach of two communities.At this very moment it is the test of the patience of people from both the countries.They are falling in trap of terrorists(exactly what terrorists want!)At this moment we have to discover faults of our system and try to improve on them.
RE:Test for Indo-Pak anti-terror mechanism?
by Arindam Mitra on Feb 20, 2007 04:51 PM Permalink
But for how long you'll keep on blaming the both, whenever statics (not only todays, rather starting from centuries / Mogul regime) clearly demonstrates that Hindus, who had always been the victim in most of the cases, again & again (Both socially & brutally)? Time to open ur eye up Manish, and accept the reality/truth...Accept the fact, not the Myth.
RE:RE:Test for Indo-Pak anti-terror mechanism?
by jav on Feb 21, 2007 03:54 AM Permalink
Manish
It's because of people like you that India is truly a secular and great country -
Let's all be together to rid bigotry and hatred based on religious grounds -and stop being mindful of minority on both sides (people like Sukhy Singh)
I wish I find people like you to be my friends, then I will stop worrying about meeting people like Sukhy and having my views skewed based upon their hatred and evil.
RE:RE:Test for Indo-Pak anti-terror mechanism?
by manish agarwal on Feb 22, 2007 11:52 AM Permalink
My eyes are open that is why I am seeing the people like u falling in trap of fundamentalist powers.What all you are trying to say is not the need of hour as no body is going to gain by this approach.No doubt there had been gross violations to the aspects of humanity by some people in past but believe it is not the point of discussion in that article.It can be debated at any other time.
This joint mechanism is a farce for Pakistan. Their continuous support to terrorists, training them militarily and instilling the concept of Jihad against Indian Hindus shows their real face.
The muslims in India should learn to live peacefully in India. The Indian Govt. should devise some methods to control their population. Otherwise they will grow to 50% of Indian population within no time. The Hindus in India will not keep quiet for long with these kind of things happening, allowing them to increase their population, continue the activities of terrorism and creating the mess in India. They will be crushed as America is doing in Afghanistan, Iraq and Israel is doing in Palestine & Lebanon.
If they integrate with this Nation, it is good otherwise all others in India need to teach them a lesson.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6376273.stm nobody was checked.. yes its true.. go thr bbc site and you will find it.. of course one can not find this news on indian channels. What to discuss? Our own faults which are known to us..? Shame on our system.. rights are given but nobody wants to use them.. just ignore.. chalata hai.. attitude.. those responsible for this security lapse should be hanged and our top security officials should be first (incl.. lalu, shivaraj patil.. and so on..)
