I am a Harijan here still holding a Hindu name. I am confused to see why Muslim brothers here steadfastly deny that there were no temple-destructions. I support temple-destructions done during that era if ever it was done. That was the right thing to do considering the social structure of those days.
When Aurangazeb came, the untouchability and caste-related atrocities were at zenith in the Indian society. The majority Dalits were treated like animals by minorty and power-weilding upper-castes based on some beasty scriptures like Manusmrithi and Vinusmrithi etc. Aurangazeb came up with Islam and gave the Dalits an opportunity to be a normal human being, let them lead a normal humanly life. Lower-castes were not even allowed to visit temples during that time. Thousands of temples across India were only limited to minority upper-castes. If he captured some temples and let open that to all newly converted Dalit-Muslims, I can't find any blame in it. Those temples were the deserved rights of those Dalits. If by being Hidnu, they couldn't enter, let them enter by being Muslim. At least he did the justice to them by giving them their deserved share and right of praying to God(whoever it be). I would say that he did the right thing considering the bitterest of experiences Dalits like my ancestors suffered throughout their history.. Yes I am just talking through our family experiences (the stories I heard through my father and grandmother etc.).
RE:Don't blame Aurangazeb
by dinakar on Apr 11, 2007 02:39 PM Permalink
Now you want Aurangazeb to build temples for Harijans?.. The Hindu religion which was hijacked by the upper-caste didnt even consider us as human beings at that time. The religion itself was hijacked by them. Dalits were flocking to Islam due to that. What guarantee that even if he builds temples, the minority upper-calss would allow us to go inside?.. Sure the atrocities would have been increased, if he had done it.. What guaratnee that even the gods and goddesses sleeping inside the temple would endorse that separate-temple meovement".. hahah..He did the right thing. Converted some temples to mosques to let the depresses Harijan majority to have the praying right..
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by dinakar on Apr 11, 2007 02:41 PM Permalink
And don't you have any shame in claiming that Savarkar opened separate temples for Harijan?.. If he was truly veer, why didnt he march courageously with Harijans to temples and forcefully enter?.
On receiving Shivaji's Death, Aurangzeb thought that he could now conquer deccan. Aurangzeb was dead scared of shivaji because Shivaji had made Aurangzeb's Uncle Shaista Khan run away from Pune and this Uncle had become mad after the encounter with Shivaji wherein Shivaji had chopped off three fingers of Shaista Khan.
in 1682 the Mughal emperor Aurangzeb himself headed south with his entire imperial court, administration, and an army of about 180,000 troops which proceeded to conquer the sultanates of Bijapur and Golconda. During the eight years, that he led the Marathas, Sambhaji never lost a battle or a fort to Aurangzeb. However, in 1688, Sambhaji was treacherously caught, tortured, and then painfully dismembered for not converting over to Islam. This was the ploy of all the earlier Islamists who came and looted India. That is convert the King and the common man will automatically be forced.
After the death of Sambhaji and then his brother Rajaram, Queen Tarabai took over the fight to Aurangzeb.
Now, Aurangzeb had learnt in Quran that Women are weak, less intelligent then Men. He thought this meant the end of the fight with Marathas after almost hard 18 years. But, Tarabai not only proved otherwise more clever than him, but also showed the way of thinking in Hindusim. When raiding Aurangzeb Camp, the marathas found Aurangzeb praying and thereby didn't kill him but only took away his King's hat to remind him how close to him they had come.
After this incident, Aurangzeb felt ashamed at being beaten by a woman, his teachings from Quran had been proved wrong. The way the Marathas left him alive only made him repent for his deeds against Hindus, how he had ordered the death of the sons of Guru Govind Singh ji. This nature of his was now new to his Muslim soldiers and they thought that Aurangzeb had become mad. In the end, Aurangzeb died a lost man, a lost king and ashamed of the religion on whose basis he had tortured and killed so many innocent Hindus.
RE:What Mullahs read teach and practice
by Perv Sharma on Apr 10, 2007 01:04 PM Permalink
Towards the end of the eighth century an Indian astronomical textbook making use of the decimal place-value system, the Siddhanta of Brahmagupta, was brought to Baghdad and translated into Arabic. This translation had a profound effect upon the history of written numerals both in the Arab world itself and eventually also in the whole of the West. At that time the Arabs were still using the Greek numeral system.
We also have evidence that the Indian or Hindu system was known in the Arab world as early as the middle of the seventh century, the work which the great Arab mathematician al-Khwarizmi was primarily responsible for. Al-Khwarizmi had become familiar with the Hindu system through study of the Siddhanta.
Knowledge of the Hindu system spread through the Arab world, reaching the Arabs of the West in Spain before the end of the tenth century. The earliest European manuscript, which came from the Hindu numerals were modified in north-Spain from the year 976.
RE:What Mullahs read teach and practice
by Perv Sharma on Apr 10, 2007 01:17 PM Permalink
To quote from Carl B. Boyer in his %u201CHistory of Mathematics%u201D, %u201C%u2026Mohammed ibn-Musa al-Khwarizmi, %u2026, who died sometime before 850, wrote more than a half dozen astronomical and mathematical works, of which the earliest were probably based on the Sindhind derived from India. Besides %u2026 [he] wrote two books on arithmetic and algebra which played very important roles in the history of mathematics. %u2026 In this work, based presumably on an Arabic translation of Brahmagupta, al-Khwarizmi gave so full an account of the Hindu numerals that he probably is responsible for the widespread but false impression that our system of numeration is Arabic in origin.
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by Perv Sharma on Apr 10, 2007 01:21 PM Permalink
In the 5th century Hindu mathematician and astronomer Aryabhata studied many of the same problems as Diophantus but went beyond the Greek mathematician in his use of fractions as opposed to whole numbers to solve indeterminate equations (equations that have no unique solutions). Aryabhata also figured the value of %u201CP%u201D (pi) accurately to eight places, thus coming closer to its value than any other mathematician of ancient times. In astronomy, he proposed that Earth orbited the sun and correctly explained eclipses of the Sun and Moon.
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by Truth Finder on Apr 10, 2007 01:29 PM Permalink
The Arayabhatta, Siddhanta of Brahmagupta, all produced in the period of Bhartiya Janta Party. All fabricated and added material. There is no authentic book to prove all these. These all material written by Historian of Rashtriay Sewan Sangh. These are big tussle with right wing of qualified Indian Historians and these fabricators. The New books printed with corrections and with right data. The Palagraized, concocted, fabricated.
RE:What Mullahs read teach and practice
by Truth Finder on Apr 10, 2007 02:08 PM Permalink
I write it truth go and study. I am amused to see your hue cry. These things had been done in his (p.b.u.h.) time. The Illeterate of his time did the same which you are doing today. You see now whole Arabia loves him and praise him. Its time for you Babu Perv.
The above points are historical truth. Read good authentic books with qualified, literate, sane, good authors. It is good for your health and mental knowledge. Otherwise you will be entertain in Mental Hospital.
RE:What Mullahs read teach and practice
by Perv Sharma on Apr 10, 2007 12:57 PM Permalink
I have already proved that Hindus were way ahead of other people in Mathematics, Medicine etc. The names you have mentioned above only translated the same from Hindu books. These facts are acknowledged in published monthly in a German Magazine - Facts about India. If you want I can again supply the same. For your kind information when the Arab's first looted Hindus and carried away their books, they were surprised because These Arabs only knew to count on Fingers wheresas Hindu Teachers used A Board to teach. If you think what your mullah taught you is right then challenge the magazine and win millions.
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by Truth Finder on Apr 10, 2007 01:22 PM Permalink
The Truth is that you people are fraud. Copying material, fabricating truth, adding, deleting. The Journal in Britain, Germany or any other place. You people writing all these and then presenting with these reference to innocent people. Go and check the authentic records and books you will find, who is who and who did it. Keep your RSS journals with you.
