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For Amresh Bhai ........................ who thinks he is the only learned fellow here.
by mohammed ahmed on Apr 13, 2007 11:54 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies



On Mulims and Islamic Education



MUSLIMS BELIEVE IN BALANCED KNOWLEDGE OF all -- Physical.... Psychological..... Spiritual aspects.



MUSLIMS ARE LITERATE as far as TRUTH is concerned.



We study Truth, Peace, Divinity, Justice,

Livelihood, Morality, Art, Science and Spirit of Living. Etc



We beleive in Revival of Old Truths.

Now, please dont talk about modern day civil society its laws and rules. and liberties.



TRUTH IS VERY OLD AND NOTHING MODERN ABOUT IT.



We dont follow modern evils.



You too will leave these once RAMDEV BABA

will tell PEPSI as Toilet Cleaner.



and when Sri Sri Ravi Shankar and Sathya Sai BAba will

show you some EVIL MAGICS.



EVERY PRACTISING MUSLIM IS A PIOUS VERSION of

RAMDEV BABA.

Ravi Shankar

Charity maker Bill Gates



40 PERCENT INDIANS(akhand bhaarat) HAVE UNDERSTOOD Islam.

hope inshallah remaining also will get soon.



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For those who really is caring towards women....
by mohammed ahmed on Apr 13, 2007 11:49 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies


On ISLAM MAN and WOMEN ----

Naturally,
Every Man has got a Monnster in him.
and
Every Woman has got a Whoure in her.

ISLAM restricts the Monnster and the Whoure
from growing in them. And guides them become pious.

Any body who does or says anything against ISLAM either is ignorant
or actually showing that Monnster or the Whoure.

Islam believes in

Diversity: but no difference in basic Human Issues.

Women as Assistants of Men: Women is weak from both intelligence and emotions
point of Veiw. Physique is already clearly weaker.

Women as Most Forgived and Cared like Children and Senior Citizens.

Women can not be Prophets, Best Judges, Commanders.

Islam is not for Equality. Rather for Equal opportunity to
carry out everybodys supposed roles in society.


Women have got their supposed roles in a family, society. Men have different ones.
Role Reversal will bring chaos in society.

Words of Wisdom.
ALWAYS BE A BADSHAH TO YOUR BEGUM.
OR ELSE SHE WILL MAKE YOU A GHULAM.

THIS IS TRUTH OF NATURE.
ACCEPT THE TRUTH OR ELSE GET DOOMED


ISLAM GIVES WOMEN's RIGHT IN INHERITENCE.
Women have legal right on property,
even if she does not earn anything.

Following is the minimum she gets legally.

1/2 of What each Brother gets from father mother
plus
1/8 of Husbands property and earning.
plus
1/6 of Each Sons property and earning.

Again women DONT HAVE any financial responsiblity.
whereas her brothers, husband and sons must have other many.

ISLAM IS GREAT.

40 PERCENT INDIANS(akhand bhaarat) HAVE UNDERSTOOD THIS.
hope inshallah remaining also will get soon.



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For Amresh Bhai ........................ Cos' he is a beginner
by mohammed ahmed on Apr 13, 2007 11:40 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies


On RSS ---
Every Indian is Afraid of this HALF PANT wallahs.

Whole of congress and India know RSS is a Gunda Club.

Because, we can not understand, what for they wear
half pants and practise Laathi Baazi.

Bey Emaan fellows. always conspired against the
country with the British.

Never went to Borders to fight against the Pak
soldiers or Bangla soldiers.

Daaru BAazi and Drugs are their hobby.

see the RSS products. VAJPAYEE always with Bhang.
Always talks anything and then takes word back.

Obviously could not run the country for 5 yrs.

ADVANI started praising that greedy and Sharaabi Jinnah.

Gandhi was also afraid. and finally GOT KILLED.

THEY ARE GOOD FOR ONLY RIOTING AND DIVIDING THE NATION.

INDIA WAS UNITED under Islamic Empire.

INDIA got DIVIDED after the Rise of the RSS-goons.


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For Amresh Bhai ........................ Cos' he is a beginner
by mohammed ahmed on Apr 13, 2007 11:40 AM  Permalink 



On AurangZeb:



AurangZeb%u2019s were the days of military rule. subjects and citizens wished to have the strongest and the wisest as their ruler. everybody had got a right to prove himself to be the best ruler. and only war between the different candidates could judge, who would be the best. no matter what relationship the candidates had between themselves.



We know that a state, a kingdom or a government is for basically giving peace and justice in a society. Peace can be hampered for a while to bring a larger justice....like a situation of war. and again little injustice can be justified to bring and keep the larger peace around.....like a situation of curfew in any area.



and the expansion of an empire is also not unjust. Mughal emperors did it like Ashoka and Alexander-the Greats conquered lands and made empires. AurangZeb in particular might have been more intolerant towards the injustices of Brahmins on the lower castes.... and also towards the social/spiritual/physical evil acts/rituals that were prevalent in the temples of those days. he had got his own personality and methodology........ open to critism from all. but making this issue a tool of condeming all muslim kings and religion of Islam is a sheer foolishness.... and even dangerous for society as a whole.



when i say..... AurangZeb in particular might have been more intolerant towards the injustices.........

i mean.... it's natural to be INTOLERANT towards larger INJUSTICES..... in fact it's desired.....

and so.... jehad is needed. JIHAD means organised effort/struggle to remove/kill the badness from SELF....SYSTYEM....SURROUNDING and if needed those MEN who comes on the way of that effort.





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For Amresh Bhai ........................ Cos' he is a beginner
by mohammed ahmed on Apr 13, 2007 11:38 AM  Permalink 


On Islam and Jihad:

is killing an evil thing in itself??????
we forget that
IPC has got capital punishment.
Dhananjay... Godse.... and many criminals were killed by the Law of the Land.

a bus driver kills a man on road to SAVE MANY inside the bus. isn't it?????

KORAN calls for JIHAD against the evils/satans/unjustness/violent-ego of the SELF, the SYSTEM and the SURROUNDING equally. Methods of JIHAD are many. KILLING within the rules of warfare is also one of them.

It is to bring mainly LARGER PEACE&JUSTICE and can be against anybody either Arab-Kafirs, Muslim-Yazeed. %u2026 ResistingBrahmins%u2026. Tribal-ChengisKhan%u2026. or any modern evil.

GANDHI/BOSE/BHAGAT/TERESA/BABA-AMTE/MILITARY GENERALS.... all did or are doing JIHAD their own way.


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For Amresh Bhai ........................ Cos' he is a beginner
by mohammed ahmed on Apr 13, 2007 11:37 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies


On Islam and Conversion:

IT IS NEVER FOR FORCEFUL CONVERSIONS OR INNOCENT KILLINGS.
Otherwise%u2026. Islam never would have prevailed all over the world and people never would embrace it at least in these days.

Islam actually always talks in terms of Evil vs Pious, Satanic vs. Sacred, Just vs Unjust and Peace vs Violence in every aspect of the SELF, SYSTEM and SURROUNDING.
And because, these terms are more SPIRITUAL than material/psychological, it derives the GUIDELINES from DIVINE sources like PROPHETS/PREISTS and divine book of KORAN. This is the ONLY book which is PRESERVED inside millions of hearts/minds, as it was at its origin. So, no distortion is Ensured by the Practice of Memorisation.

No Muslim king went to Kerala/Srilanka.... but think how Islam reached there... and in fact muslims are 30% in population. Same is the case for Indonesia and Malayshya.... where 40 crore muslims live.
which aurangzeb went to Indonasia/Malaysia Kerala/SriLanka......etc..????????
who converted Jaipal Yogi/Cat-Stevens/ Yusuf Yuhana/Kamala Das/ AR-Rahman/ ClassusClayMd.Ali?????????????????

People embraced Islam to get the following GIFTS:
1.NAMAZ- best way of prayer, chanting, excercise, yoga, meditation,
Social Mingling: all in ONE.
2.ROZA- best way of fasting, cleansing, practicing patience,
discipline, unity- all in ONE.
3.ZAKAT- best way of charity, tax, gifts, insurance, investment-all in
ONE (Allah saves the giver from accidents, diseases, ill-fate etc)
4. HAJJ %u2013 best form of pilgrimage %u2013 Signifying One Humanity %u2013 Universal Brotherhood
5. Circumcision- best practice after birth to have basic cleanliness always.
6. Earth-burial of deads- best environmental freindly DISPOSAL with DIGNITY.
7. environmental/psychological/spiritual freindly Islamic festivals.(no chemical/no phataka)
8. human rights, spirit of true globalization the right to fight for justice/peace.

and to find every good things of LIFE.
AND THEY GET also. and this way ISLAM SPREADS.


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RE:For Amresh Bhai ........................ Cos' he is a beginner
by raghav bhatt on Apr 14, 2007 02:18 PM  Permalink
MOHAMMED BHAI,
YOU HAVE WRITTEN SO MANY GOOD THINGS OF ISLAM. BUT WHAT ABOUT PRACTISING THEM. TODAY ISLAM IS VIEWED AS A TERRIST RELIGON WORLD WIDE, WHY? IF SO MANY GOOD THINGS ARE PRACTISED WHY THIS TERRORISM OCCURS.
YOU ARE REPEATEDLY BLAMING RSS. BUT TELL ME HOWMANY WTCs BEING DESTROYED BY RSS? HOW MANY SUICIDE ATTACKS BEING DONE BY THEM.? HOW MANY THOUSANDS MASJIDS(LIKE AURANGZEB) BEING DESTROYED BY THEM? CAN YOU NARATE SOME THING.
YOU FIRST SHOW POSITIVENESS OF ACCEPTING FACTS. I AGREE THAT THERE ARE (& WERE) BAD SYSTEMS IN HINDUISM.BUT THOSE WILL BE CORRECTED.
BUT WHAT ABOUT YOU ? WHY YOU PEOPLE ARE NOT ACCEPTING THE NEGATIVE POINTS OF ISLAM? ACCEPT THEM & CORRECT YOURSELF.




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RE:For Amresh Bhai ........................ Cos' he is a beginner
by raghav bhatt on Apr 15, 2007 10:49 AM  Permalink
that means RSS destoyed masjids at Russia, Chechnia etc.Good joke? You are telling thousands of masjids demolished in Gujarath. Give the name of at least one such building. Because I remember when one Durga by the side of the road was in big news because it was to be demolished. & at least our pseudo-secularists will not allow such things. Whenever demolishing of masjids only Babri masjid will come.
Mohmmed Bhai, if you can,t answer pl. keep quite for Allah's sake.Will Allah pardon you if you tell lie? Don't tell lies that thousands of masjids were demolished. & donot blame our people for outside (other countries) events.
Killing innocent people by whatever means , how it will be accepted to God? If God tells to do like that how can he be a god?

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For Amresh Bhai ........................ Cos' he is a beginner
by mohammed ahmed on Apr 13, 2007 11:35 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies



On Muslim Backwardness:



U R FORGETTING..... azeem premji and APJ Kalam are muslim by religion.... and if muslims are lagging behind .... it's due to govt. POLICY not their PERFORMANCE....... and also due to muslim-targeted RIOTS.

b'cos see the PERFORMANCE-based industries!!!!

FILMS / MEDIA / SMALL BUSINESS / SPORTS etc u will find their proportion(20%)...

THE KHANS.. MJ AKBAR...... AR RAHMAN... SAYEED MIRZA... ANIS BAZMEE....

Kaif, Azhar, PAtaudi, Zaheer, Pathan, Sania.

QAZI..... ZeeBusinessBazigar WINNER .



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For Amresh Bhai ........................ Cos' he is a beginner
by mohammed ahmed on Apr 13, 2007 11:33 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

ON TRUTH and MODERNITY:



Gandhi said.

TRUTH IS AS OLD AS MOUNTAINS.

and ISLAM tells people the same old truth that

was there in Bible, Torah, Zaboor, Vadas and Buddhism.



Islam tells again and again for different

generations. Because People either forget or

goes towards EVIL for fulfilling greeds.

Islam is against any EVIL. SATAN, ill DJINN, Psychologically DISORDERED HUMAN.

Evil is anything that goes against the Supreme

Order for Peace and Justice.

INDIA WILL BE IN PEACE ONLY WITH ISLAM

as was during 1200-1800AD.



ACTUALLY MOST PEOPLE ARE doing evils in the NAME OF MODERNITY.

but, don't forget that Modernity is a relative term w.r.t Time.

whereas TRUTH, PEACE, JUSTICE, HEALTH,

HAPPINESS, LOVE, COOPERATION etc are ABSOLUTE and ETERNAL.



these Modern people may start EATING FROM THEIR ANUSS in the name of fashion or somethingNEW.

Modern people even HATE DOING what their

fathers did, let alone Moses, Budhha, Jesus and Mohammad(PBUH).



today is POST MODERN AGE. not modern. Please,

try to come back to old age TRUTHS.



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RE:For Amresh Bhai ........................ Cos' he is a beginner
by raghav bhatt on Apr 14, 2007 02:25 PM  Permalink
mohmmed bhai,
do you know? muslim ruling in India is termed as the dark period,because of the decline in art & literature-to which most of the muslim kings were oppose.You are calling that period as peace. what is the meaning of peace according to you? conversion to Islam? If you are thinking muslim rule only give peace you could have migrated to Muslim countries where you could have get second grade citizenship(so called one human policy Islam countries).


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