Amidst all the present-day disorderness and in the absence of a definite world order, political or social, lets find out how we lost the order from our lives and how to bring it back and keep it. While searching to understand the very term, Order, I found that the Oxford dictionary gives its meanings and synonyms as many as the number of ways we use it. However, fortunately, all the meanings have got positive dimensions and point towards The Supreme Order and His wills. Any divine order based on Truth, if obeyed in letter and spirit, is meant for bringing peace and order in the self and the surroundings.
But, the basis is Belief. Like a son who does not believe on the parenthood claims of his parents, may not obey their orders and advises to his full advantage, a non-believer also can not be in peace with self or the surroundings unless he believes that every creation in this cosmos is a result of just an order from The Divine. Everything of this universe has got a spiritual dimension. What is Spirit? It is simply called --- the Creators Order of something to happen. The absence or withdrawal of that very Order will bring chaos and ultimately the end or the Death.
The sun, the moon, the sky, the stones, the trees, the animals or the most important, The Humans, all the beings always carry that order and they have to obey some divine orders from the Creator for their survival, like a technical manual from the designers are always followed for smooth operation and maintenance of a machine. Sticking to the divine guidelines only would ensure a sustainable order in the Human System. The present world has lost the track of the divine scriptures and hence not having the peace and order in any field of human activities even at the cost of generations of men, materials and machines.
The Natural Order says: one needs to do nothing to bring a disorder, whereas an order can be achieved only through some effort or energy. But, the amount of order created will always be less than the disorder produced while putting the effort. This is termed as Universal second law of Thermodynamics for a physical system. However, if the system is psychological and spiritual in nature, like human society, we can achieve higher efficiency in the peace-keeping process simply by sticking to the guidelines of the Divine Orders.
Amidst all the present-day disorderness and in the absence of a definite world order, political or social, let%u2019s find out how we lost the order from our lives and how to bring it back and keep it. While searching to understand the very term, Order, I found that the Oxford dictionary gives its meanings and synonyms as many as the number of ways we use it. However, fortunately, all the meanings have got positive dimensions and point towards The Supreme Order and His wills. Any divine order based on Truth, if obeyed in letter and spirit, is meant for bringing peace and order in the self and the surroundings.
But, the basis is Belief. Like a son who does not believe on the parenthood claims of his parents, may not obey their orders and advises to his full advantage, a non-believer also can not be in peace with self or the surroundings unless he believes that every creation in this cosmos is a result of just an order from The Divine. Everything of this universe has got a spiritual dimension. What is Spirit? It is simply called %u201Cthe Creator%u2019s Order of something to happen%u201D. The absence or withdrawal of that very Order will bring chaos and ultimately the end or the %u2018Death%u2019.
The sun, the moon, the sky, the stones, the trees, the animals or the most important, The Humans, all the beings always carry that order and they have to obey some divine orders from the Creator for their survival, like a technical manual from the designers are always followed for smooth operation and maintenance of a machine. Sticking to the divine guidelines only would ensure a sustainable order in the Human System. The present world has lost the track of the divine scriptures and hence not having the peace and order in any field of human activities even at the cost of generations of men, materials and machines.
The Natural Order says: one needs to do nothing to bring a disorder, whereas an order can be achieved only through some effort or energy. But, the amount of order created will always be less than the disorder produced while putting the effort. This is termed as Universal second law of Thermodynamics for a physical system. However, if the system is psychological and spiritual in nature, like human society, we can achieve higher efficiency in the peace-keeping process simply by sticking to the guidelines of the Divine Orders.
Indeed, from Akbar's time (reign: 1556-1605) forward, Mughal rulers treated temples lying within their sovereign domain as state property; accordingly, they undertook to protect both the physical structures and their Brahmin functionaries. At the same ti me, by appropriating Hindu religious institutions to serve imperial ends - a process involving complex overlappings of political and religious codes of power - the Mughals became deeply implicated in institutionalised Indian religions, in dramatic contra st to their British successors, who professed a hands-off policy in this respect. Thus we find Akbar allowing high-ranking Rajput officers in his service to build their own monumental temples in the provinces to which they were posted, as in the case of the Govind Deva Temple in Brindavan, patronised by Raja Man Singh.7 (See Figures 8 and 9.)
Akbar's successors went further. Between 1590 and 1735, Mughal officials repeatedly oversaw, and on occasion even initiated, the renewal of Orissa's regional cult, that of Jagannath in Puri. By sitting on a canopied chariot while accompanying the cult's annual car festival, Shah Jahan's officials ritually demonstrated that it was the Mughal emperor, operating through his appointed officers (mansabdar), who was the temple's - and hence the god's - ultimate lord and protector.8 Such actions in effect projected a hierarchy of hybridised political and religious power that descended downward from the Mughal emperor to his mansabdar, from the mansabdar to the god Jagannath and his temple, from Jagannath to the sub-imp erial king who patronised the god, and from the king to his subjects. For the Mughals, politics within their sovereign domains never meant annihilating prior authority, but appropriating it within a hierarchy of power that flowed from the Peacock Throne to the mass of commoners below.
Such ideas continued in force into the reign of Aurangzeb (1658-1707), whose orders to local officials in Banaras in 1659 clearly indicate that Brahmin temple functionaries there, together with the temples at which they officiated, merited state protecti on. "In these days," he wrote in February of that year,
information has reached our court that several people have, out of spite and rancour, harassed the Hindu residents of Banaras and nearby places, including a group of Brahmins who are in charge of ancient temples there. These people want to remove those B rahmins from their charge of temple-keeping, which has caused them considerable distress. Therefore, upon receiving this order, you must see that nobody unlawfully disturbs the Brahmins or other Hindus of that region, so that they might remain in their t raditional place and pray for the continuance of the Empire.9
OYE JATIN YOU ARE VERY FOND OF ASKING QUESTION? I APPRECIATE. by Truth Finder on Apr 16, 2007 11:03 PM | Hide replies
Question by Jatin Haldankar.
Now just one question..out of context why dont you allow non muslims to have place of wordship in Saudi Arabia ... they way non Muslims has extended you the courtesy to have mosque in thier holy cities and at times ,also allowed to build them by destroying thier holy place..
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First of all, he has to ask this question with the Saudi Government not to me. This is childish question and mischieviously always put by RSS GANGS AND GOONS. Some of the reasons I will tell you. They were the Idol worshippers before the Islam. There were temples and Idols in Saudi Arabia. When the Islam came to Arabia and when they learnt about Islam. Islam teaches them One God, Supreme, Powerful, Al-Mighty, Creator and Sustainer. He has no shape, no form, there is nothing like to unto Him. When they learnt and got the Truth. They felt it is use less to pray these idols because:
1.Foolish to worship these man-made objects.
2. Worshiping these gods they cannot think, move, and speak.
3. They cannot save themselves and cannot protect others.
4. They cannot mend if broken.
5. They cannot clean as birds do SHIT on them as we see Hanuman, Shivaji and other idols/statues on the squares.
6. Children play with them like toys, its happened some times in the Home, Children play with these gods as toys.
7. Lastly they think the good men/women cannot be their God. The God is above all these worldly, creatures and maters. Unseen, Absolute, eternal, Powerful, Utmost and final qualities no body can match.
After realizing the simple truth, they destroyed; throw all these Gods out of their land. So they do not want this filth/illeteracy/blind-faith again. These are the simple reasons.
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RE:OYE JATIN YOU ARE VERY FOND OF ASKING QUESTION? I APPRECIATE. by wada pav on Apr 17, 2007 12:28 AM 1. Birds also shit on mosques, can allah stop it ? 2. when babri masjid was destroyed, did allah protect it ? 3. if masjids are broken can they mend themselves? 4. what is the evidence that allah can speak , move, think ? what is the evidence that allah exists ? its just a assumption. 5. what if we declare that islam is fake and decide to throw islam out of india , just like saudi throw idol worshippers out ?
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RE:OYE JATIN YOU ARE VERY FOND OF ASKING QUESTION? I APPRECIATE. by Truth Finder on Apr 17, 2007 12:56 AM WADA PAV STARTED AGAIN FOOLISHNESS. WE DID NOT WORSHIP TO MOSQUES ( MASJID ) MASJID A PLACE OF WORSHIP NOTHING MORE THAN THIS. IT SHOWS YOU HAVE THE SERIOUS ILLNESS, BAD CONSCIENCE, LACK JUDGEMENT, CANNOT DIFFERENTIATE. IT IS CALLED MADNESS. GO TO A NICE DOCTOR AND TAKE MEDICAL TREATMENT. OTHERWISE YOU WILL DO SUICIDE AND YOUR CHILDREN WILL SUFFER AND YOUR COMMUNITY LAMENT AND SUICIDE. HI DEAR KAISI LAGI.
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You Asked For It. -Reply to Jatin Haldankar - Why there is no temple in Saudi Arabia by Truth Finder on Apr 16, 2007 11:01 PM | Hide replies
Question by Jatin Haldankar.
Now just one question..out of context why dont you allow non muslims to have place of wordship in Saudi Arabia ... they way non Muslims has extended you the courtesy to have mosque in thier holy cities and at times ,also allowed to build them by destroying thier holy place..
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First of all, he has to ask this question with the Saudi Government not to me. This is childish question and mischieviously always put by RSS GANGS AND GOONS. Some of the reasons I will tell you. They were the Idol worshippers before the Islam. There were temples and Idols in Saudi Arabia. When the Islam came to Arabia and when they learnt about Islam. Islam teaches them One God, Supreme, Powerful, Al-Mighty, Creator and Sustainer. He has no shape, no form, there is nothing like to unto Him. When they learnt and got the Truth. They felt it is use less to pray these idols because:
1.Foolish to worship these man-made objects.
2. Worshiping these gods they cannot think, move, and speak.
3. They cannot save themselves and cannot protect others.
4. They cannot mend if broken.
5. They cannot clean as birds do SHIT on them as we see Hanuman, Shivaji and other idols/statues on the squares.
6. Children play with them like toys, its happened some times in the Home, Children play with these gods as toys.
7. Lastly they think the good men/women cannot be their God. The God is above all these worldly, creatures and maters. Unseen, Absolute, eternal, Powerful, Utmost and final qualities no body can match.
After realizing the simple truth, they destroyed; throw all these Gods out of their land. So they do not want this filth/
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by Mike Gandhi on Apr 17, 2007 07:31 PM Permalink
YOU ASK WHO CLEAN AND STOP WHEN BIRSD SHIT ON THE MOSQUE.
I JUST RECEIVED A MESSAGE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION OF MASJIDS HAS HIRED SWEEPERS (RAM, KRISHNA, SHIVA, VISHNU, BRAHMA) TO CLEAN THE SHITS FROM THE MASJIDS.
RE:THE GREAT AND GLORIOUS MOGUL EMPEROR AURANGZEB
by Mike Gandhi on Apr 17, 2007 09:18 PM Permalink
IT MEANS THEY WERE DALITS ??????? IF YOUR ANSWER IS YES THEN WHY YOU PEOPLE MURDERING AND RAPING INNCENT DALITS MEN, WOMEN, GIRLS AND CHILDREN ????
RE:[object]
by Mike Gandhi on Apr 17, 2007 09:28 PM Permalink
KASHMIR IS DISPUTED TERRITORY BETWEEN TWO NATIONA. THIS IS DECLARED BY UNITED NATIONS. DO YOU RESPECT THE CHARTER OF UNITED NATIONS ????
RE:THE GREAT AND GLORIOUS MOGUL EMPEROR AURANGZEB
by Truth Finder on Apr 17, 2007 01:02 PM Permalink
Allah Gave you wisdom good conscience and bad conscience it is up to you to decide. Whatever its happen anywhere is bad conscience work, corruption, so it is human tragedy. Allah gave holy divine laws and guidance and asked human being to use full human wisdom and intelligence to live in peace, harmony, happily and prosperously. Allah choosen His religion name is Islam ( peace ). The above mention problems are man-made and human tragedy. Allah says human being to maintained, Peace, Justice, Equality, proper distribution of resources and defined a complete guidance how to live in your life. Guided and taught values of eating, sleeping, going out and in, meeting with people, behaving with neighbours, how to work. ISLAM gives you guidance on path of lifes. The above all happen due to injustice and loosing values taught by Allah. He gave you everthing and human wisdom it is upto you? what you chooses.
RE:RE:THE GREAT AND GLORIOUS MOGUL EMPEROR AURANGZEB
by Mike Gandhi on Apr 17, 2007 07:02 PM Permalink
THE OLD WAR OF OIL BY IMPERIALISTS. THERE IS NO GENOCIDE IN DAFUR. REBELLIONS ARE CHRISTIANS SUDANEES. FOR THAT CHRISTIANS DOMINATED WORLD ARE DOLDRUMMING THE DAFUR. BULLSHIT OF BBC & CNN.
MUSLIM FORCES FUCKED THE SERBIANS IN THESE AREA. WHEN U.N., USA, UK SAW THE ADVANCEMENT OF MUSLIM FORCES THEN THEY INTERFERED IN THIS ISSUE.
By way of justifying this order, the emperor noted: "According to the Holy Law (shari`at) and the exalted creed, it has been established that ancient temples should not be torn down." On this point, Aurangzeb aligned himself with the theory and th e practice of Indo-Muslim ruling precedent. But then he added, "nor should new temples be built" - a view that broke decisively from Akbar's policy of permitting his Rajput officers to build their own temple complexes in Mughal territory. Although this o rder appears to have applied only to Banaras - many new temples were built elsewhere in Mughal India during Aurangzeb's reign10 - one might wonder what prompted the emperor's anxiety in this matter.
TEMPLE DESECRATION AND STATE MAINTENANCE
It seems certain that rulers were well aware of the highly charged political and religious relationship between a royal Hindu patron and his client-temple. Hence, even when former rulers or their descendants had been comfortably assimilated into an Indo- Muslim state's ruling class, there always remained the possibility, and hence the occasional suspicion, that a temple's latent political significance might be activated and serve as a power-base to further its patron's political aspirations. Such conside rations might explain why it was that when a subordinate non-Muslim officer in an Indo-Muslim state showed signs of disloyalty - and especially if he engaged in open rebellion - the state often desecrated the temple(s) most clearly identified with that o fficer. After all, if temples lying within its domain were understood as state property, and if a government officer who was also a temple's patron demonstrated disloyalty to the state, from a juridical standpoint ruling authorities felt justified in tre ating that temple as an extension of the officer, and hence liable for punishment.
Thus in 1478, when a Bahmani garrison in eastern Andhra mutinied, murdered its governor, and entrusted the fort to Bhimraj Oriyya, who until that point had been a loyal Bahmani client, the sultan personally marched to the site and, after a six-month sieg e, stormed the fort, destroyed its temple, and built a mosque on the site (no. 40; Map 2). A similar thing occurred in 1659, when Shivaji Bhonsle, the son of a loyal and distinguished officer serving the `Adil Shahi sultans of Bijapur, seized a governmen t port on the northern Konkan coast, thereby disrupting the flow of external trade to and from the capital. Responding to what it considered an act of treason, the government deputed a high-ranking officer, Afzal Khan, to punish the Maratha rebel. Before marching to confront Shivaji himself, however, the Bijapur general first proceeded to Tuljapur and desecrated a temple dedicated to the goddess Bhavani, to which Shivaji and his family had been personally devoted (no. 63; Map 3).
MAP 1
We find the same pattern with the Mughals. In 1613 while at Pushkar, near Ajmer, Jahangir ordered the desecration of an image of Varaha that had been housed in a temple belonging to an uncle of Rana Amar of Mewar, the emperor's arch enemy (See Table and Map 3: no. 56). In 1635 his son and successor, Shah Jahan, destroyed the great temple at Orchha, which had been patronised by the father of Raja Jajhar Singh, a high-ranking Mughal officer who was at that time in open rebellion against the emperor (no. 5 8). In 1669, there arose a rebellion in Banaras among landholders, some of whom were suspected of having helped Shivaji, who was Aurangzeb's bitter enemy, escape from imperial detention. It was also believed that Shivaji's escape had been initially facil itated by Jai Singh, the great grandson of Raja Man Singh, who almost certainly built Banaras' great Vishvanath temple. It was against this background that the emperor ordered the destruction of that temple in September, 1669 (no. 69).11
