No this message is not in defence of Aurangzeb but Dear Rediff and the writer whatever your name is mate, why on earth do u need to fuel hatred, if thats what Aurangzeb did then all you are doing is fueling it and taking it to the next level, how many of us really care about what he did, how many of us who are still jobless and struggle to meet our daily requirements would spare a thought to an issue like this, I agree that history is important and empowers man to face modern problems and help deal with the likely outcome, but Rediff c'mmon guys come off it now, you guys are going from bad to worse, i am a big time SRK fan but dont wanna read so much of him as to what time does he sneeze n goes to bed and what toothpaste does he use and why shud Big B be the next president and what did Aurangzeb do, point me out the slightest relevance that you guys think that these articles have with even 20% of this country's population? c'mmon get some sense please and write some inspirational and meaningful articles please and try n create harmony between hindus and muslims and if u cant then just shut up n dont come up with such stupid and inflamatory articles every now n then.
RE:Aurangzeb
by vishal kundnani on Feb 16, 2007 04:07 PM Permalink
Yes, The scriptures are meant for all the people of all the times. You just go to any arab country and see arab men wearing White robes and women Black burqas in such sweltering heat. Either you people don;t know about science or you don't believe in equality. What's your say on that?
RE:RE:Aurangzeb
by mustashrique ahmad on Feb 16, 2007 04:12 PM Permalink
if roaming around in bikinis is hip and thats what u consider development then my dear friend i wont go any far, our best home made example of gandhiji and his attributes and i m sorry if u judge people by their clothes and as far as development is considered then the above named Arab countries have a higher per capita income than us and if u dont know about Quran then read and then talk, read in it that what rights do men have and women have and how the term man and woman has been used equal number of times with showing equal respect, responsibilty and rights for both of them and how it is all still relevant in today's times and do not come with a mindset for God's sake, rationalise things warna yeh jo article likhne wala hai bilkul iske jaise hoke reh jaogey bhai.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Aurangzeb
by mustashrique ahmad on Feb 16, 2007 04:21 PM Permalink
yes cover women so that they dont get raped and check the stats which i dont need to give because they are all over the net, and why rate is so high in the so called modern countries, and i dont want to be a spokesman for the muslim countries coz i am Indian muslim and i support the cause of muslims here and listen friend we cant fun of other peoples judiciary when our own judiciary is corrput and if they make all their money with oil then whats wrong with it? not every country is as gifted as ours.
RE:Aurangzeb
by NIRANJAN L on Feb 16, 2007 07:24 PM Permalink
Dear mushtashrique You are right. you can accept dark facts when you are mature enough to understand why & how they happened. Majority of Indians are still over sensitive to these issues & will flame up on recalling these incidents. Its gonna take a real long time for us to mature, think about shaping the future & then recalling & undestanding the past. Most nations that have accepted the past are the ones with one major religion. Its no joke to convince a billion people following numerous faiths about a dark past. Its best to keep the past there & move ahead. All religions have resorted to some tactic for propogation. If anyone brought out the facts about the spread of Christianity, Aurangzeb would sound like a kindergarten kid. The fact is that we are constantly facing a world that has more practical problems than spiritual ones. Every nation knows it can't survive by itself. Boundaries are opening up like never before. Communication couldn't have been better. All this is allowing human to human contacts. When you look deep inside yourself & others, you see no difference. Its something written down centuries ago, that had relevance then, that is still dictating the ways of life. Religion is required to discipline humans but law is not much different. There are plenty of Aurangzebs & Hitlers practising even today. Its just a matter of how we fight them to oblivion that decides what the world is going to look like in the near & far future. Lets wake up to accept human kind as one & sort problems that will let us all live equally & happily in the short time we are gonna be in this planet
The whole article is aimed at destroying peace in our beloved country,do we need to know our history from Francois Gautier?
We are want peace,do not try to create confusions....else we have Indians have a way to teach our enemies a very hard lesson...
Rediff,please stop this Non-sense,this is not the first time you had this kind of crap on your site.If not, we peace loving citizens will logout from your site for ever.....
RE:Rediff,please stop this Non-sense
by NIRANJAN L on Feb 16, 2007 07:26 PM Permalink
Dear Raifullah
you are right
you can accept dark facts when you are mature enough to understand why & how they happened. Majority of Indians are still over sensitive to these issues & will flame up on recalling these incidents. Its gonna take a real long time for us to mature, think about shaping the future & then recalling & undestanding the past. Most nations that have accepted the past are the ones with one major religion. Its no joke to convince a billion people following numerous faiths about a dark past. Its best to keep the past there & move ahead. All religions have resorted to some tactic for propogation. If anyone brought out the facts about the spread of Christianity, Aurangzeb would sound like a kindergarten kid. The fact is that we are constantly facing a world that has more practical problems than spiritual ones. Every nation knows it can't survive by itself. Boundaries are opening up like never before. Communication couldn't have been better. All this is allowing human to human contacts. When you look deep inside yourself & others, you see no difference. Its something written down centuries ago, that had relevance then, that is still dictating the ways of life. Religion is required to discipline humans but law is not much different. There are plenty of Aurangzebs & Hitlers practising even today. Its just a matter of how we fight them to oblivion that decides what the world is going to look like in the near & far future. Lets wake up to accept human kind as one & sort problems that will let us all live equally & happily in the short time we are gonna be in this planet
In entire world, Only Indians wont care about security of Country except in Textbooks. Among all religions, Hindus wont care about their religion,its survival etc. Let Indians, especially Hindus are going to disappear from earth because of their "SECULARIST PEOPLE"
No doubt Aurangazeb was a monster. What fate did the builders of Tajmahal met ? Their thumbs were amputated because the monster did not want an another Tajmahal to come up.
Nehru is to be faulted for naming this HINDU nation as secular one, for altering history and not presenting true picture of moslem rulers, etc.
This writer behaves like an ultra hindu fundamentalist and all his articles are extremely divisive and trying to stir up trouble. On top of that he also has an air of superiority and arrogance of a white man. Why should indians follow what france does and see the past? If so let's also face the past about upper caste hindu crimes against lower castes, sati, dowry, superstitions and other evils of hinduism. Will this writer hold an exhibition on these too? I'll bet you my bottom rupee he won't cuz he is a hindu fundamentalist.
RE:This article is a joke,
by jagadees R on Feb 16, 2007 04:21 PM Permalink
The very important to be made here, most of the muslims and christians in India were once hindus(correct word is indians) coverted by invaders like Aurangzeb. Taking this positive sense, we should treat each other as brothers rather than enemies. Religions were imposed upon us by someone for their one personal interest.
RE:This article is a joke,
by on Feb 16, 2007 04:11 PM Permalink
I dony understand why he should be called a HIndu fundamentalist. I think you should learn to get the definitions right...you shoild know that they change with context..may be you have an axe to grind against Hinduism..thats very sad since it offers the most liberal way of life. While there are many outdated practices still being followed you cant cast it away just like that. Many religions (or so called custodians) believe that they have the best to offer (and of course gain too!!) and try to commercialize it. Doesn't cut it dude..Atleast for someone neutral like me
RE:This article is a joke,
by Santhosh M.P on Feb 16, 2007 04:09 PM Permalink
hello sir this is a hindu country ... we have every right to uphold the injusties caused to us ... stop pretending to be a big hearted man....
RE:RE:This article is a joke,
by asai thamby on Feb 16, 2007 04:10 PM Permalink
The point is simple. While gautier acts like someone who is concerned about the well being of india, all of his articles on rediff have been anti muslim and anti-lower caste. It is quite possibly that he is a foeign spy who is trying to incite communal/caste hatred and violence. I don't understand why rediff gives column space to such a shady character.
RE:This article is a joke,
by CR Anand on Feb 16, 2007 04:16 PM Permalink
whats ur problem with hindu society today? lower castes are being brought fwd, sati and dowry are banned. superstitions are in every religion - perhaps least in hindu society.
definitely muslim society is not open like this. what is ur stupid problem? r u a christian convert, and trying to bash out at what u left behind? r u trying to justify your miserable conversion?
RE:RE:This article is a joke,
by asai thamby on Feb 16, 2007 04:40 PM Permalink
What is your stupid problem? Go and play in ur khaki chaddis, u hindu fundamentalist.
yeah Francois Gautier just picked up a pair of khakhi shorts and an orange tshirt, in a country like ours , these kind of articles are simply asking for trouble.Cant belive they even publish crap like this. We all know how sensitive we are over temples then why write something like this which can only make us hate Islam or Muslims bcoz of some loser Auranzeb. Jack ass of a writer i'd say.
If you think yourself that Hindus or some Indians think that all Sikhs are as you said terrorists, we will not be having Mr.Manmohan Singh as a Prime Miinsiter of India.
Don't try to blame majority of Hindus, just because you want to say something. Think larger picture...
RE:a fact abt sikhs
by praveen kumar on Feb 16, 2007 04:08 PM Permalink
pritpal singh, what are u expectiing from hindus?? how many times should we beg our apologizes for 1984 riots and goldent temple act ?????... when did hindus treated sikhs like terroists ????? pls dont speak without any senses
