RE:Here are a few examples of the teachings of Islam:
by Anis Khan on Mar 06, 2007 05:26 PM Permalink
Who the hell was Osho, if you take part of the sentence, it changes the meaning. READ the QURAN first, not the part of the sentence.
RE:RE:Here are a few examples of the teachings of Islam:
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 09, 2007 12:23 PM Permalink
If one reads the Quran, one will become a terrorist
After following and participating in this "debate" one thing is very clear, the posts by 99% of the Muslims are off outright denial and rather poorly articulated too. Whereas the points put forward by Hindus are well researched and well articulated.
The style and substance of the replies from Muslims is rather worrying, there is a complete absence of any kind of critical thinking. Their most favored tactic is an argument from authority, if someone like Dr. Zakir Naik or the Maulvi says so and it's repeated often enough then it must be true.
Hindus seem to be better educated and more aware of whats actually happening in the world and show greater restraint in their postings, I suspect it could be because they are better educated.
No amount of debating on this forum is going to change the past, not the frantic denials of the Muslim apologists for sure. With the Internet and free flow of information it is going to get more and more difficult to hide the truth.
RE:Some observations
by Golu Gayani on Mar 06, 2007 06:52 AM Permalink
Accurate assesment. Great explanation and points. I solely agree with you that the postings tells a lot about the education and background of any person.
I agree with you, India, Pakistan, May IRAN, N. Korea have Nuke and definitely one day It may burst. You will die and I will die. No guarantee for one hour, one minute, one second. Watch Waqt picture. Think When you will die. What will happen. How many friends and relatives you burned them. They will also burn you. Do prepare for that. Simple message of Islam do Constructive and Development Job. Stop Non-Construcive and Non-Developmental thnings what you people are doing. thanks enough dose for today bye
RE:Replly to Brother Bhaskar and Chaitanaya Kumar
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Mar 06, 2007 01:01 AM Permalink
There is a difference between Nukes of each countries because of its size, economy.
In case of N war between India and Pakistan, this Paki land will be obliterated from History. India will suffer but will survive.
However that will be permanent end of Islam in South Asia.
RE:RE:Replly to Brother Bhaskar and Chaitanaya Kumar
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 06, 2007 01:28 AM Permalink
Be happy and go to you grave today and sleep. You may not die with nuke, you may die with just mere small accident. Just I can pray ALLAH to give you long life. Be a saver of ISLAM bye
RE:Replly to Brother Bhaskar and Chaitanaya Kumar
by Secular Indian on Mar 06, 2007 02:08 AM Permalink
This modern resurgence of Islam is driven by Arab petro-dollars and nothing else. Why doesn't S. Arabia allow temples and churches to be built on its soil ? If they are so confident of the intrinsic greatness of their religion why are they scared ? Perhaps they have been telling porkies.
RE:Replly to Brother Bhaskar and Chaitanaya Kumar
by Secular Indian on Mar 06, 2007 05:01 AM Permalink
Simple message of Islam is to slay the kafirs. Islam has bloody borders. It is a religion of hatred and war, if Islam wasn't spread by sword it would have been still-born. Otherwise why are only Muslims constantly claiming it's a religion of peace. If it was, they wouldn't have to constantly be shouting from their rooftops. Because the history show us that was spread by terror and people like Aurangzeb are it's shining stars.
From the day Islam was inflicted on this world till date, in its wake lies only death and destruction. Aurangzeb was only doing his duty as a good and pious Muslim.
RE:Replly to Brother Bhaskar and Chaitanaya Kumar
by parbati hep on Mar 08, 2007 11:39 AM Permalink
posted by Harish Kumar in the reply of farooqui's post..............
Mr. Farooqui,
You shuold be aware that Islam says:
1. kill the innocent people,
2. spread terrorism across the world
3. Do every inhumane act in name of jehad
4. Decieve innocent people
5. do all Destructive activities to destroy peace in the world.
6. Run terrorists camp to train the murderers of humanity.
what a great civilization and what agreat religion......................
Mr. Farooqui, I am sorry to say that you, being so educated, talk like illiterate and blind follower of Islam.
Islam does not teach for above mentioned acts in the name of jehad, for killing innocent people. You do not have sufficient knowledge of Islam. This way you are defaming Islam.
Islam may be good religion but you followres are not true ones. you use islam for personal benefits not for mankind.
No religion is bad in the world only the followers are good and bad.
I appreciate Francois Gautier doing good job doing some study.If He is just banking on what facilities rewards he is getting may be he got Vish Kanniya. The work will be is filth just like Arun Shourie the socalled journalist did. He did nothing just making amalgam of RSS Fabricated material and writing. If he is sincere and he may interact with people who are sane and have conscience and will get more details, he may do the best job. It will be worth gem of history. I wish him good luck. But he is just doing for VISH KANNIYA, or REWARDS to spread hatred he will be in the garbage soon. He will be used and thrown in the dustbin. Good luck to you and to him try and cry
RE:Francois Gautier
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 09, 2007 12:29 PM Permalink
Gautier has reported the truth - the farmaans are really availble in those museums (I also had the opportunity to see them)
my dear friends Chaitanaya,Bhaskar,Layman and others. Believe me tomarrow you will die and I too. We have no guarantee. When you sleep in the dark night feel that you are sleeping in the grave. Open your mind ask question what people will do you with you. They fire your body and put your ashes in the Garbage. Give the world something good think openly, do good job, do constructive and developmental things what ISLAM taught to Human Beings. What your writing is nothing just mere propaganda, spreaded by Jews, Christian, Hindu zealots fearing that One day ISLAM will dominate. It is true. Our ladies still in burkha and modest. Whats happening in the world the level of nudity has gone to the top to the roof. We taught Hindus, Modesty, pardah, respect, humanity, tolerance, living ethics, manners, respect for all,dealing with people. The stamp of Muslims rules still on your soul. Now you people destroying the culture, the great culture mixing the wine of the west.
Believe we will die tomarrow. Do good for today, read good books good for your mental health otherwise you will ran-out
RE:The lost intelligence and lost conscience case
by chaitanya kumar on Mar 06, 2007 12:33 AM Permalink
the reason people reply to these kind of posts that you wrote are not because they are scared about the growth of islam, but they have an agenda of their own. Many know that Islam has a weak case to present in today's world relative to others and it's stupid that you have to say it repetitively which infact make you a delusional guy. The biggest threat to Islam are Muslims themselves, the way react to others, that is where the impression is made, and it rarely is a good one.
RE:The lost intelligence and lost conscience case
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Mar 06, 2007 12:37 AM Permalink
Let Iran or Saudis drop a Nuke anywhere in Israeli territory - and the world will make sure Kabbab go up to flames and ashes.
RE:RE:RE:The lost intelligence and lost conscience case
by chaitanya kumar on Mar 06, 2007 12:51 AM Permalink
Mike Gandhi, you know, they might be tracking your IP and location if you type more such things. Just a reminder. Don't get yourself into so much focus man.
RE:RE:RE:RE:The lost intelligence and lost conscience case
by Raman Jha on Mar 06, 2007 01:24 AM Permalink
Mike Gandhi's words are mirror of an Islamist's mind.What is sacred to the Hindus is something he can comfartably abuse.He belongs to a section of the muslim community (I dont know whether it is in minority or majority there),which takes delight in insulting our beliefs,our religion and symbols. The good part is he cannot dare to do that openly in todays India.Here it is a different matter,as he is a hidden face.Poor chaps like him just let out their frustration in this manner.Lets pity them. Rakesh Jha
RE:RE:RE:The lost intelligence and lost conscience case
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 06, 2007 12:50 AM Permalink
I agree with you, India, Pakistan, May IRAN, N. Korea have Nuke and definitely one day It may burst. You will die and I will die. No guarantee for one hour, one minute, one second. Watch Waqt picture. Think When you will die. What will happen. How many friends and relatives you burned them. They will also burn you. Do prepare for that. Simple message of Islam do Constructive and Development Job. Stop Non-Construcive and Non-Developmental thnings what you people are doing. thanks enough dose for today bye
RE:RE:RE:RE:The lost intelligence and lost conscience case
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 09, 2007 12:38 PM Permalink
If, 'Simple message of Islam do Constructive and Development Job', why are you guys trying to terrorise/bomb the rest of the world?
RE:The lost intelligence and lost conscience case
by arun yadav on Mar 06, 2007 12:38 PM Permalink
Dear Indians,
I think it is non sense to comment on any relegion be it hinduism or islam or christianity, every religion tells about the same goal, that is ultimate supreme. The ways may be diffrent.
Religion itself is not wrong, but it is the we, the people understand it wrong, may be due to high sitting fundamantlist priest who themselves dont know the meaning of love & humanity.& fundamentlist are there, in hindus as well as in muslims.
The religion is never wrong, instead upon believing what a priest or maulvi might say, just go & try to understand the meaning first hand, the paths might be different but aim is same.to reach that ultimate supreme lord.
Who are we to say that my path is right & every other is wrong.Beleive in your own path & releigion but have tolerance for other faiths.
RE:RE:The lost intelligence and lost conscience case
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 09, 2007 12:43 PM Permalink
Our tolerance is what has brought us to this state. If the Congress Govt.'s 15 point programme based on the Sachar report is implemented (I believe the process has started already), Hindus will become refugees in this country
RE:RE:The lost intelligence and lost conscience case
by Secular Indian on Mar 06, 2007 05:26 PM Permalink
Have you read the Koran or the Hadith ? Please read it before you make such big claims.
RE:The lost intelligence and lost conscience case
by Golu Gayani on Mar 06, 2007 01:11 AM Permalink
Big words to say Mr Rafuddin. I would agree with you that Islam teaches constructive and give the world something, ONLY if you start showing us, what constructive items are given to world from Islam including you. Just words and hollow words means nothing........
RE:The lost intelligence and lost conscience case
by Perv Sharma on Mar 06, 2007 06:42 AM Permalink
Your ladies in burga and modest. You Modest. Islam modest. Islam is being attacked today by everyone. Blah blah... Pakistan is an Islamic Country. How many whores live there. Who has created them? The followers of Islam. Funny and still a decent society and the society around dirty. You have islamic law in Afghan/Pak clear all the mess and form one country from PAk to MEcca after all you got one islamic law. First follow your own Allah's wish and form whereever you got one islamic law one country.
You have preaching about what will happen after death etc. I think the first question he gonna ask all muslims is that when U were following my teachings couldn't you even form one combined islamic country. So u worry more about after death.
RE:The lost intelligence and lost conscience case
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 09, 2007 12:34 PM Permalink
We're not destroying culture, but restoring it. Who wants Arab culture anyway?
RE:The lost intelligence and lost conscience case
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Mar 06, 2007 12:32 AM Permalink
>>What your writing is nothing just mere propaganda, spreaded by Jews, Christian, Hindu zealots fearing that One day ISLAM will dominate. It is true.
Keep on dreaming. The world will bomb out Islam unless it does not stop this fanatics.
Response of Islamic fanatics like Mike Gandhi, rafiuddin et al show the importance of this piece penned by Francois Gautier.
Some argued why discuss what happened 300 years back. Here it is folks: there are Islamic facists whp actually hero-worhsip Aurangjeb (though their forefathers bore the burnt and forcefully converted).
RE:Response of Islamic fanatics like Mike Gandhi, rafiuddin et al show the importance of this piece penned by Francois Gautier
by Golu Gayani on Mar 06, 2007 01:15 AM Permalink
Absolutely TRUE.
Mike Gandhi, raffudin etc are modern Aurangzeb, who would prove to be worst than a meniac deadly morons, if they are shown the true picture. These idiots are high on drugs and live in pseudo wprld of refusal.
RE:Response of Islamic fanatics like Mike Gandhi, rafiuddin et al show the importance of this piece penned by Francois Gautier
by rahim on Mar 06, 2007 08:45 AM Permalink
yes
you are true.Many Hindus got converted by Aurangazeb in to muslims.My fore fathers also hindus got converted to islam forcefully.
