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America of Evil Instincts and Non sense modernity
by mohammed ahmed on Apr 26, 2007 04:51 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Senseless killings by the Campus shooters in the
western world is really SENSE LESS in true sense.

These events actually symbolise the Western societys and govts
psycho problems. the govts also are doing the same thing
around the world. JUST TO MEET DEMANDS OF EVIL INSTINCTS.

they have become a society of evils.
follows a religion of Money, Media, Movies, Materials,
wine, drugs and Women.

They need treatment in the house of either
medicine, management or meditation.

medicines they are already abusung and misusing.
Inshallah ISLAM gives them treatment from management
and meditation sides.

Jihad, Namaz, Roza, Zakat etc will treatment them.

Mashallah they are embracing Islam and coming in
peace with self, system and system.

PLEASE, NO MORE REFERENCE OF THEIR SENSELESS MODERNITY.

I will request you people too to save urself.
and ebrace Islam like....

YVONNE RIDLEY....

Google this name if not heard.

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RE:America of Evil Instincts and Non sense modernity
by Rajiv Shivashankar on Apr 29, 2007 07:03 AM  Permalink
Islam is a religion of peace. Why don't the Muslimleaders of the world condemn what the Taliban and the Al-Quida are doing? Killing innocent people all over the world saying it is a protest against america or India or other religions is NOT a solution. We do NOT read about Islamic leaders condemning the activities of terroists in Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakisataan, Afghanistan, Somalia etc. which are Islamic nations. India is a genuine secular nation. If some cadres of people cannot live peacefully in India, then they cannot live anywhere in the world. The tolerance shown in India is unparalled.
PLEASE read about other religions also. They too prpogate peace and brotherly love. Try to understand the viewpoints of others too. Characters like "Mike Gandhi, and Rafi Farooqui" are not doing Islam any good with their writings on this subject, nor are people like 'Indian' etc. doing any good to the myriad Hindu faiths. Learn to respect viewpoints of others, and engage in a civilised discussion. It is good for all Indians.
Embracing Islam is not the only way to peace and mental comfort. There are many ways to reach the Almighty, so, try to understand other religions and thir philosophy, like our erudite President, Dr. Kalam.

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Quran for Peace ????
by jatin on Apr 26, 2007 02:42 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

%u201CRE:Reply to An Indian - Read Carefully -
by rafiuddin farooqui on Apr 25, 2007 10:43 PM
Yes Allah said the meaning us that all non-believers will go to hell fire.%u201D


How can Quran stand for peace when ordained such hostility towards non belivers ...

Why then you guys expect just treatment from Non Belivers ..as non beliver has equal right to treat you the way you treat them ...???

your hostility will be match with Hostility ..

your answere also justify the existence of organization like RSS , Bajrang Dal etc...

It will be foolish to accept tht non beliver will let you excercise hostility with out reacting ..

AS Quran is ordained such ACT and look down at non beliver in Disgust to non Belivers n Quran way of Life whihc means for Non Belivers it is aCt of Evil ...







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RE:RE:Quran for Peace ????
by jatin on Apr 26, 2007 11:21 PM  Permalink
rafiq even u are talking nonsense here ..what do you mean by "YOU HAVE SEEN HOW SUNIL DUT - PRAMOD MAHAJAN PUT THE FIRE" ... m not sure but do you mean burning dead body of person is equivalent to burning in hell .. :) ..

Arun shourie has shown us what is written in quran and i have already reproduced them in my earlier message ,,,

anyways you have mentioned human forces will go to heaven ,,, and as per quran human forces are
the one who follows quran which does not includes hindu ,christan , jews etc....

somehow I have feeling that you are runnig away from our debate ... or are u shying away cause what evdience i produced clearly mentioned that islam is not for peace and create hostility with non belivers ...

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by jatin on Apr 26, 2007 11:29 PM  Permalink
rafiq,, now it is quesiton of your credibility !!! muslims who belive that hindus are non belivers and lesser humans and will burn in hell ... where given oppurtunity to leave india and settle in pakistan ...

if muslim like you ,who looks down at hindus are still in india ..then it is bad for my country,india ,,, I think you are most dangerous and hatred monger than RSS..



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RE:Quran for Peace ????
by Rajiv Shivashankar on Apr 29, 2007 07:08 AM  Permalink
I wonder if you have seen a dead body dug up from the grave a few weeks after burial ? if you have seen what I have seen, you will agree cremation is best way to dispose of the dead ? Aas for burning in hell, from what I read here, the devil is going to be VERY busy with the lot who write on this blog.

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RE:Historians Blinkers - Aurangzeb was the greatest King of India
by jatin on Apr 26, 2007 02:55 PM  Permalink
Aurangzeb%u2019s demolition order of Vishwanath temple at Banaras. But documentary evidence gives a new dimension to the whole episode:%u201D What follows is the theory launched by B.N. Pande, working chairman of the Gandhi Darshan Samiti and former Governor of Orissa:

%u201CThe story regarding demolition of Vishvanath temple is that while Aurangzeb was passing near Varanasi on his way to Bengal, the Hindu Rajas in his retinue requested that if the halt was made for a day, their Ranis may go to Varanasi, have a dip in the Ganges and pay their homage to Lord Vishwanath. Aurangzeb readily agreed. Army pickets were posted on the five mile route to Varanasi. The Ranis made a journey on the Palkis. They took their dip in the Ganges and went to the Vishwanath temple to pay their homage. After offering Puja all the Ranis returned except one, the Maharani of Kutch.

%u201CA thorough search was made of the temple precincts but the Rani was to be found nowhere. When Aurangzeb came to know of it, he was very much enraged. He sent his senior officers to search for the Rani. Ultimately, they found that the statue of Ganesh which was fixed in the wall was a moveable one. When the statue was moved, they saw a flight of stairs that led to the basement. To their horror, they found the missing Rani dishonoured and crying, deprived of all her ornaments. The basement was just beneath Lord Jagannath%u2019s seat. The Rajas expressed their vociferous protests. As the crime was heinous, the Rajas demanded exemplary action. Aurangzeb ordered that as the sacred precincts have been despoiled, Lord Vishvanath may be moved to some other place, the temple be razed to the ground and the Mahant be arrested and punished.%u201D

The story is very bizarre, to say the least. First of all, it has Aurangzeb go to Bengal. Yet, in the extant histories of his life and works, no such journey to Bengal, or even any journey as far east as Varanasi, is recorded. Some of his generals were sent on expeditions to Bengal, but not Aurangzeb himself. There are fairly complete chronicles of his doings, day by day; could B.N. Pande or any of his quoters give the date or even the year of this remarkable episode?

Neither was Aurangzeb known to surround himself with Hindu courtiers. And did these Rajas take their wives along on military expeditions? Or was it some holiday picnic? How could the Mahant kidnap a Rani who was there in the company of other Ranis, as well as the appropriate courtiers and bodyguards? Why did he take such risk? Why did the %u201CRajas%u201D wait for Aurangzeb to take %u201Cexemplary action%u201D: did they fear his anger if they punished the priests or destroyed the temple themselves? And since when is demolition the approved method of purifying a defiled temple, an eventuality for which the Shâstras have laid down due ritual procedures?

One question which we can readily answer is, where did B.N. Pande get this story from? He himself writes: %u201CDr. Pattabhi Sitaramayya, in his famous book, The Feathers and the Stones, has narrated this fact based on documentary evidence. So, we have to go one more step back in time to find this intriguing %u201Cdocumentary evidence%u201D. Let us turn to this book, now hard to find, to see what the documentary evidence is on which this whole wave of pro-Aurangzeb rumours is based, but which no one has cared to reproduce or even just specify. This is what Gandhian Congress leader Pattabhi Sitaramayya wrote in his prison diary:

%u201CThere is a popular belief that Aurangazeb was a bigot in religion. This, however, is combated by a certain school. His bigotry is illustrated by one or two instances. The building of a mosque over the site of the original Kasi Visveswara Temple is one such. A like mosque in Mathura is another. The revival of Jazia is a third but of a different order. A story is told in extenuation of the first event.

%u201CIn the height of his glory, Aurangazeb like any foreign king in a country, had in his entourage a number of Hindu nobles. They all set out one day to see the sacred temple of Benares. Amongst them was a Ranee of Cutch. When the party returned after visiting the Temple, the Ranee of Cutch was missing. They searched for her in and out, East, North, West and South but no trace of her was noticeable. At last, a more diligent search revealed a Tah Khana or an underground storey of the temple which to all appearances had only two storeys. When the passage to it was found barred, they broke open the doors and found inside the pale shadow of the Ranee bereft of her jewellery.

%u201CIt turned out that the Mahants were in the habit of picking out wealthy and bejewelled pilgrims and in guiding them to see the temple, decoying them to the underground cellar and robbing them of their jewellery. What exactly would have happened to their life one did not know. Anyhow in this case, there was no time for mischief as the search was diligent and prompt. On discovering the wickedness of the priests, Aurangazeb declared that such a scene of robbery could not be the House of God and ordered it to be forthwith demolished. And the ruins were left there.

%u201CBut the Ranee who was thus saved insisted on a Musjid being built on the ruined and to please her, one was subsequently built. That is how a Musjid has come to exist by the side of the Kasi Visweswar temple which is no temple in the real sense of the term but a humble cottage in which the marble Siva Linga is housed. Nothing is known about the Mathura Temple.

%u201CThis story of the Benares Musjid was given in a rare manuscript in Lucknow which was in the possession of a respected Mulla who had read it in the Ms. and who though he promised to look it up and give the Ms. to a friend, to whom he had narrated the story, died without fulfilling his promise. The story is little known and the prejudice, we are told, against Aurangazeb persists.%u201D

So now, we finally know where the story comes from: an unnamed mullah friend of an unnamed acquaintance of Sitaram ayya%u2019s knew of a manuscript, the details of which he took with him in his grave. This is the %u201Cdocument%u201D on which secularist journalists and historians base their %u201Cevidence%u201D of Aurangzeb%u2019s fair and secularist disposition, overruling the evidence of archaeology and the cold print of the Maasiri Alamgiri, to %u201Cexplode the myth%u201D of Islamic iconoclasm spread by the %u201Cchauvinist%u201D Hindutva propagandists. Now you just try to imagine what the secularists and their mouthpieces in Western academe would say if Hindus offered evidence of this quality


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