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Fools do not talk to me - I have to teach you all.
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 15, 2007 10:05 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Hindu Brothers Comments

1. Hinduism is more than religion it is a civilization. The civilization of the people of Hindustan

1. Even an Atheist can claim to be a Hindhu only bcos it is not a religion.

Definition of Religion

A religion is a set of beliefs and generally held by Human Community adherence to codified beliefs.

Religion is described a system of divine guidance from Allah (God) the Unseen, Supernatural, All powerful. The religious teachings are sacred, sublime, highest truth, agreement of fact and reality, moral codes, principles, moral values.

Religion is also divine teaching for all human beings and a complete guidance to mankind all ways of life.

Definition of Culture

Culture, in sociology and social anthropology, is the beliefs, behavior, language, and entire way of life of a particular group of people at a particular time. Culture includes customs, ceremonies, works of art, inventions, technology, and traditions. Triandis' definition of Culture: 1Culture is a set of human-made objective and subjective elements that in the past have increased the probability of survival and resulted in satisfaction for the participants in an ecological niche, and thus became shared among those who could communicate with each other because they had a common language and they lived in the same time and place. 1 2British anthropologist Edward Burnett Tylor defines culture as "that complex whole which includes knowledge, belief, art, law, morals, custom and any other capabilities and habits acquired by man as a member of society".

Culture, in sociology and social anthropology, is the beliefs, behavior, language, and entire way of life of a particular group of people at a particular time.

1. The culture can be changed, added, deleted, fabricated and mixed.

2. The culture is a man-made laws and attitude demographically different.

3. The Culture is subject to human objective and also subjective. Man can do whatever to his desire, both good and bad. Drink, Illegal Relationship, gambling.

4. The Culture can not be forced and apply anybody.

1. Where as Religion is complete divine teaching cannot be changed.

2. The Religion for all human beings and having no demographic conditions or language.

3. Religion is Truth and highest moral code of conducts and values negate all bad habits non constructive and non-development acts.



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RE:Fools do not talk to me - I have to teach you all.
by Rationalist on Mar 16, 2007 01:03 AM  Permalink
Religion is the truth for ignorant fools whose skulls are empty & take whatever given in name of God by smart people like your Gods agents. They neither evaluate the teachings or the person who gave it. It is fooling to core. That is why your religion is stagnant, incorrigible, rigid. It creates beasts in form of human beings who cannot think on ther own & act based on the "highest moral code of conducts and values negate all bad habits non constructive and non-development acts.",create barbarism, terror even though one has no intention personally but just for sake of religion.



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RE:Fools do not talk to me - I have to teach you all.
by Secular Indian on Mar 16, 2007 03:23 AM  Permalink
Your assumption is that there is a GOD, no one knows. You claim culture is man-made, well flash news, so is religion. How can religion be complete when it's very basis are unsound. One can have a moral code of conduct without divine sanction. Religion esp. Islam and Christianity have caused more strife and grief in the world than probably anything else including disease, hunger, natural catastrophes.

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Fools do not talk to me - I have to teach you all.
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 15, 2007 10:03 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Hindu Brothers Comments

1. Hinduism is more than religion it is a civilization. The civilization of the people of Hindustan

1. Even an Atheist can claim to be a Hindhu only bcos it is not a religion.

Definition of Religion

A religion is a set of beliefs and generally held by Human Community adherence to codified beliefs.

Religion is described a system of divine guidance from Allah (God) the Unseen, Supernatural, All powerful. The religious teachings are sacred, sublime, highest truth, agreement of fact and reality, moral codes, principles, moral values.

Religion is also divine teaching for all human beings and a complete guidance to mankind all ways of life.

Definition of Culture

Culture, in sociology and social anthropology, is the beliefs, behavior, language, and entire way of life of a particular group of people at a particular time. Culture includes customs, ceremonies, works of art, inventions, technology, and traditions. Triandis' definition of Culture: 1Culture is a set of human-made objective and subjective elements that in the past have increased the probability of survival and resulted in satisfaction for the participants in an ecological niche, and thus became shared among those who could communicate with each other because they had a common language and they lived in the same time and place. 1 2British anthropologist Edward Burnett Tylor defines culture as "that complex whole which includes knowledge, belief, art, law, morals, custom and any other capabilities and habits acquired by man as a member of society".

Culture, in sociology and social anthropology, is the beliefs, behavior, language, and entire way of life of a particular group of people at a particular time.

1. The culture can be changed, added, deleted, fabricated and mixed.

2. The culture is a man-made laws and attitude demographically different.

3. The Culture is subject to human objective and also subjective. Man can do whatever to his desire, both good and bad. Drink, Illegal Relationship, gambling.

4. The Culture can not be forced and apply anybody.



1. Where as Religion is complete divine teaching cannot be changed.

2. The Religion for all human beings and having no demographic conditions or language.

3. Religion is Truth and highest moral code of conducts and values negate all bad habits non constructive and non-development acts.



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RE:Fools do not talk to me - I have to teach you all.
by Secular Indian on Mar 16, 2007 03:23 AM  Permalink
Your assumption is that there is a GOD, no one knows. You claim culture is man-made, well flash news, so is religion. How can religion be complete when it's very basis are unsound. One can have a moral code of conduct without divine sanction. Religion esp. Islam and Christianity have caused more strife and grief in the world than probably anything else including disease, hunger, natural catastrophes.

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Mesyaf
by Perv Sharma on Mar 15, 2007 07:26 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Have you heard about Mesyaf(Summer holiday) prostitution in Saudi Arabia - Mike. Are you sleeping in 21st century.

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RE:Mesyaf
by Mike Gandhi on Mar 15, 2007 10:02 PM  Permalink
NO NO I AM NOT SLEEPING. ACTUALLY MESYAF IS ARABIC VERSION OF HINDU PROSTITUION. THIS IS NOT ISLAMIC. YOU STUPID DONT KNOW MORE THAN ONE HUNDRED MILLION CHRISTIANS, DRUZI, ALAVIS, ARMENIANS(YOUR FOREFATHERS-ARAYANS)AND MARONITES ARE LIVING IN ARAB WORLD. THEY PRACTICING LIKE HINDUS. IF SOME MUSLIM DO THIS THEN THAT IS THERE INDIVIDUAL ACT.

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RE:RE:Mesyaf
by Secular Indian on Mar 16, 2007 03:25 AM  Permalink
So why did MuhamMAD marry a 6 year old child when he was 53. Later he married is daughter-in-law...sad.

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mike - temple prostitution
by Perv Sharma on Mar 15, 2007 07:05 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

You are talking about the past and that too most this didn't exist in the territory of Aurangzeb.



Aurangzeb Greatest Emperor - don't me laugh. This is the same Aurangzeb who ended up going round adn round to defeat the marathas for almost 25 years and himself ended up a lost man. This is Aurangzeb whom the marathas allowed to live only because he was praying at the time they had raided his camp.





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RE:mike - temple prostitution
by Perv Sharma on Mar 15, 2007 07:08 PM  Permalink
But look at you muslims - women can't drive or vote in Saudi Arabia. They are treated as slaves and as a household property or item in this 21st Century.



Do you want me to dig more of Quran and Islam.



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RE:RE:mike - temple prostitution
by Mike Gandhi on Mar 15, 2007 09:43 PM  Permalink
but your daughters and sisters are becoming priests' and public property since centuries old hinduism practice. for that I sincre request. Embrace the Islam and become our brother to fight this atcocities which are carrying in the name of religion

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RE:RE:RE:mike - temple prostitution
by Secular Indian on Mar 16, 2007 03:25 AM  Permalink
So why did MuhamMAD marry a 6 year old child when he was 53. Later he married is daughter-in-law...sad.

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RE:RE:RE:mike - temple prostitution
by JATIN HALDANKAR on Mar 16, 2007 11:59 AM  Permalink
Keep trying ... your propaganda ...you are creating hatred for islam here...forget abt ppl changing there relion to embrace..something outdated as Islam ..:)

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RE:mike - temple prostitution
by Hazi Singh on Mar 15, 2007 07:20 PM  Permalink
perv,

I believe that these Mullah Mikes are only Worst Product of Islami Culture. they can not answer a single question when asked about thier old junked books/Systems

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Mike Gandhi - u Parrot
by Perv Sharma on Mar 15, 2007 07:00 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

mike I told you - the biggest example of forcefull conversion is your great great grandpa. Aurangzeb inserted a Mike in his bottom and that Mike is in your mouth today.

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RE:Dr Rafi - U knowledge is devasting for Islam
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 15, 2007 07:57 PM  Permalink
Again non-sense read records. Just writing like fool. You lost and confused and knelt down. You become mad. Like in Urdu Bak raha hoon Junoon mein kiya kiya. A man become mad he say what ever comes to his insane mind.

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RE:RE:Dr Rafi - U knowledge is devasting for Islam
by Mike Gandhi on Mar 15, 2007 10:27 PM  Permalink
HIDUISM IS TOLERANT ??? MY FOOT. DO YOU KNOW WHO IS THE WORLD BIGGEST TERRORIST AND FASCIST ?? KRISHNA - WHO MISGUIDED ARJUN TO FIGHT WITH KARAVAS. IN THE MAHABHARATH, FOR THE TINY STATE, MORE THAN 11 BILLION INNOCENT HINDUS BUTCHERED IN THE NAME OF RELIGION. LET TALK ABOUT EMPEROR ASHOKA. WHEN HE WAS HINDU, HE FAUGHT HUNDRED OF BATTLES IN THE NAME OF RELIGION. AND IN THAT BATTLES MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF INNOCENT HINDUS KILLED. AFTER DISAPPOINTED WITH CRUELITY AND IMMORAL PRACTICES OF HINDUISM, HE EMBRACED THE BUDDHISM. WHAT ABOUT KALI AND DURGA ?? THESE TWO WOMEN ARE FIRST WOMEN TERRORIST ON THIS EARTH. TOLERANT !!!!! MY FOOT.

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RE:RE:RE:Dr Rafi - U knowledge is devasting for Islam
by JATIN HALDANKAR on Mar 16, 2007 12:05 PM  Permalink
from where you got 11 Billion figure from ...today we are 1 billion...

in ancient world ..life expectancy of human was not high (due to outbreak of dieases and lesser medical knowledge )...how can they possible reach 22 billion mark (assuming 50 percent population was annihilated in mahabarta war )... :) ..you seems to be losing your propaganda war ...

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what happened -Kathmullahs
by Hazi Singh on Mar 15, 2007 06:48 PM  Permalink 

Dear Mullahs What happened no answer of these points. Your Barking is over. Go back to Madrsa again!

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Another Face of ISLAM
by Hazi Singh on Mar 15, 2007 06:35 PM  Permalink 

Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald discusses the Muslim Brotherhood's resurgence in Egypt, and its wider implications:



The Muslim Brotherhood seeks its Total Answer in Islam. The problems it addresses may be those that all countries experience -- a ruthless, corrupt, completely worthless regime. In a non-Muslim country, the answer would be Clean Government, and Civil Service Examinations, and an Anti-Corruption Squad and Throw the Rascals Out. In a Muslim country, where the prism of Islam is ready, the Answer of Islam is ready, the discontent with the government (Mubarak, the Al-Saud, this or that despot or petty ruler) will always and everywhere be expressed in Islamic terms, with Islam as the Solution. That would be fine for Infidels if Islam, more Islam, did not mean also something else, and what it means is this: more hatred of the Infidels, unmitigated by worldliness and corruption. And it would be fine if the Infidel world is ready to take upon itself indefinitely the entire burden of ensuring that everywhere Good Government and an Honest and Efficient Civil Service will reign throughout the Muslim lands, and of supplying aid to any Muslims who might feel that they are poor and should not be. And many of them are poor, but the reasons are in the despotism that Islam encourages, and the habit of mental submission that Islam encourages, and the habit of inshallah-fatalism that Islam encourages.

And more Islam always means more hatred of Infidels, so that any protest is channeled through Islam -- and in a Muslim country it will always end up being channeled through Islam for all but a small enlightened or quasi-enlightened group (no more than 2-3% of the population). Yet since Islam itself is the main reason for their troubles, for their unresponsive political system, and for the rumors, nonsense, and lies that come so easily to Muslim societies that have never encouraged and cannot encourage skepticism as a way of mental life but rather foster credulity at every step, things will never get better until Islam itself is weakened, constrained, divided, demoralized, seen not as The Answer but, as Ataturk and Bourguiba did, as The Problem.





The Muslim Brotherhood may have won nearly 20% of the seats in Parliament. But in Egypt, the Muslim vote essentially went 100% for Islam. Mubarak is Muslim, leader of a corrupt, meretricious, vicious regime, but a regime of Muslims, sharing Muslim attitudes that shape their worldview, and that are scarcely hidden, save for the few hours a week that are spent meeting with Western dignitaries, or for the odd state visit (that waiting Blair House, or that suite at The Mayflower or at the Hotel Raphael! How eagerly these tin-pot potentates, propped up with Western money, look for an excuse to travel abroad). Those attitudes are well-reflected, are on display, in the viciousness of the official press, which is imbued with anti-Israel, anti-American, an

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More Gems From Islam
by Hazi Singh on Mar 15, 2007 06:12 PM  Permalink 

And here are a few more gems from Islam

Father can give his slave-girl to his son to do conditional things%u2026(Malik%u2019s Muwatta 28.15.38)

Book 28, Number 28.15.38:

Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibrahim ibn Abi Abla from Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan that he gave a slave-girl to a friend of his, and later asked him about her. He said, "I intended to give her to my son to do such-and-such with her." Abd al-Malik said, "Marwan was more scrupulous than you. He gave a slave-girl to his son, and then he said, 'Do not go near her, for I have seen her leg uncovered .' "

A master can have sex with the slave-girl of his male or female slave%u2026(Malik%u2019s Muwatta 29.17.51)

Book 29, Number 29.17.51:

Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi that Abdullah ibn Umar said, "If a man gives his slave permission to marry, the divorce is in the hand of the slave, and nobody else has any power over his divorce. Nothing is held against a man who takes the slave-girl of his male slave or the slave-girl of his female-slave."

Slave-girls are like fields if you wish then water it by ejaculating inside them or leave it thirsty i.e. coitus interruption with slave-girls is optional%u2026(Malik%u2019s Muwatta 29.32.99)

Book 29, Number 29.32.99:

Yahya related to me from Malik from Damra ibn Said al-Mazini from al-Hajjaj ibn Amr ibn Ghaziya that he was sitting with Zayd ibn Thabit when Ibn Fahd came to him. He was from the Yemen. He said, "Abu Said! I have slave-girls. None of the wives in my keep are more pleasing to me than them, and not all of them please me so much that I want a child by them, shall I then practise coitus interruptus?" Zayd ibn Thabit said, "Give an opinion, Hajjaj!" "I said, 'May Allah forgive you! We sit with you in order to learn from you!' He said, 'Give an opinion! 'I said, 'She is your field, if you wish, water it, and if you wish, leave it thirsty. I heard that from Zayd.' Zayd said, 'He has spoken the truth.' "



SHame on You Kathmullahs!



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