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THE GREAT EMPEROR - SHAHENSHAH AURANGZEB
by Mike Gandhi on Mar 19, 2007 08:37 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The Muslim rule in India lasted for almost 1000 years. How come then, asked the British historian Sir Henry Elliot, that Hindus 'had not left any account which could enable us to gauge the traumatic impact the Muslim conquest and rule had on them'? Since there was none, Elliot went on to produce his own eight-volume History of India from its own historians (1867). His history claimed Hindus were slain for disputing with 'Muhammedans', generally prohibited from worshipping and taking out religious processions, their idols were mutilated, their temples destroyed, they were forced into conversions and marriages, and were killed and massacred by drunk Muslim tyrants. Thus Sir Henry, and scores of other Empire scholars, went on to produce a synthetic Hindu versus Muslim history of India, and their lies became history.





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RE:THE GREAT EMPEROR - SHAHENSHAH AURANGZEB
by wada pav on Mar 19, 2007 08:51 PM  Permalink
Did he also write the following books which prove how muslims treated hindus?

1. 'Chachnama'(Sindh)

2. 'Baburnama'

3. 'Badshahnama'

4. 'Auranzebs Farmans'

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THE GREAT EMPEROR - SHAHENSHAH AURANGZEB
by Mike Gandhi on Mar 19, 2007 08:35 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The noted Indian scholar and historian, Dr Bishambhar Nath Pande, ranked among the very few Indians and fewer still Hindu historians who tried to be little careful when dealing with the Muslim rule in India that lasted for almost 1000 years. Dr Pande passed away on 1 June 1998 and Impact International of London (July 1998) wrote the following obituary [at the end of the article], which we think sheds some light into some of the myths on Indian history, such as on Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb, created by the British with the clear objective of divide and rule:

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RE:THE GREAT EMPEROR - SHAHENSHAH AURANGZEB
by wada pav on Mar 19, 2007 08:59 PM  Permalink
Great Hindu kings like Shivaji fought Aurangzeb.

we don't need a Mr pande to tell us what Auranzeb was like.

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This is what Sant Ramdas said when auranzeb died.



'Budala Aurangya Paapi , Hindustan Balavle'



which means ' Auranzeb is dead/sunk, hindustan is now stronger'.



we belive in our saints who lived during auranzebs time, rather than Mr Pande who lived 300 years later.

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Auranzeb also tortured to death the son of Shivaji, Sambhaji, when he refused to convert.

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Auranzeb also tortured the Sikh Guru Teg Bahadur Singh , who tried to prevent Kashmiri Hindus from being forcibly converted to Islam.

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Auranzeb invited a Rajput King Jai Singh whom he could not defeat in war,for dinner, and then he poisoned him.

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Mirza Raje Jaising, another of Auranzebs powerful generals was also poisoned by him.

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'MANS WORD' VERSUS 'GODS WORD'
by wada pav on Mar 19, 2007 08:35 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

VEDAS AND PURANAS WERE CREATED BY HUMAN BEINGS ,HENCE THEY ARE NOT DIVINE ( NOT REVEALED BY GOD ).HENCE THEY CAN HAVE MISTAKES.



KORAN ,YOU GUYS BELIEVE ,IS FROM GOD AND NOT MAN MADE,THEN WHY DOES IT HAVE THINGS LIKE SLAVERY, SEX SLAVES ,JIZIYA,PERMISSION TO ABDUCT WOMEN , LOOT NON-MUSLIMS PLEASURE MARRIAGES , TRIPLE TALAQ , DEGRADATION OF WOMEN , HATRED FOR JEWS ,CHRISTIANS , IDOL WORSHIP?



THIS PROVES KORAN IS NOT GODS WORD , BUT MAN MADE BOOK PACKAGED AND SOLD AS GODS WORD.

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RE:'MANS WORD' VERSUS 'GODS WORD'
by Mike Gandhi on Mar 19, 2007 08:48 PM  Permalink
READ THE KORAN CAREFULLY. IF YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THEN CONTACT TO DR. ZAKIR NAYAK. YOU WILL GET THE FREE LITERATURE AND LECTURE. YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS CAN APPORACH ANY TIME TO HIM. HIS PEACE CHANNEL DOING FANTASTIC JOB TO REDUCE CONFUSION AND LACK OF KNOWLEDGE FOR BOTH RELIGION. THE LIES AGAINST THE ISALAM AND MUSLIM GENERATED BY HATE ACADEMIES(BAL SHISHU MANDIRS OR RSS GANG). IF YOU STARTED YOUR BASIC EDUCATION FROM THIS HATE ACADEMIES THEN YOU NEED PROPER MEDICATION TO OPEN YOUR MIND.



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RE:RE:'MANS WORD' VERSUS 'GODS WORD'
by wada pav on Mar 19, 2007 09:04 PM  Permalink
GODS WORD HAS TO BE 100% PERFECT. IT CANNOT AFFORD TO HAVE A SINGLE MISTAKE. BUT KORAN HAS SO MANY MISTAKES. I HAVE PROVIDED SO MANY EXAMPLES EARLIER WHICH PROVE IT CANNOT BE GODS WORD.STILL U ARE NOT WILLING TO OPEN UR EYES.

UR MULLAHS HAVE PUT A IRON CURTAIN AROUND UR EYES.

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RE:RE:'MANS WORD' VERSUS 'GODS WORD'
by Secular Indian on Mar 20, 2007 03:03 AM  Permalink
Dr Zakir Naik logic is hilarious hahahaha.. 2 plus 2 equals 4 therefore you can't have a temple in Saudi Arabia.

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RE:MANU AND WOMEN
by wada pav on Mar 19, 2007 08:38 PM  Permalink
In fact the Shloka:

"Neither by sale nor by repudiation is a wife released from her husband" (Manu:II:46).



means exactly the reverse of what you think.

It means a husband cannot sell or rupdiate his wife at any cost.



The explanation of the shloka you provided below :



"Sale and repudiation unilaterally are some of the ingrediants of property, whether animate or inanimate"



is exactly opposite to its meaning

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RE:RE:MANU AND WOMEN
by wada pav on Mar 19, 2007 08:40 PM  Permalink
Also the following sentence in your article



"Earlier, because of Brahmo Samaj Movement,a many Acts validating intercaste marriage, widow marriages and intercommunal marriages has been passed"



proves that Hindus have reformed and are capable of reforming themselves.

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RE:To Mike Gandhi
by Mike Gandhi on Mar 19, 2007 04:54 PM  Permalink
IS HINDUISM A RELIGION???



HERE IS THE TRUTH ABOUT HINDUISM-THE RELIGION THAT EVEN DOESNOT TREATS HUMANS EQUAL.READ IT PATIENTLY.



Hinduism did not exist before 1830. It was created by the English colonialsts in the 1830s. This remarkable circumstance is evidenced by the fact that none of the travellers who visited India before English rule used the word `Hindu' or `Sanatana'. This is amply borne out by the Encyclopedia Britannica, which states :





" The term Hinduism ... [ was ] introduced in about 1830 by British writers. "

-- [ EB 20 `Hinduism ' 519 ]

In other words, the founding father of `Hinduism' is an Englishman ! Nowhere in the Vedas, Puranas or any other religious text prior to 1830 AD are the terms `Hindu' or `Sanatana Dharma' used. Not a single inscription contains the terms `Hindu' or `Sanatana' prior to the Muslim era.

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`Hinduism' as a term is such a confused jumble of different religions that there does not even exist a standard concept of God.









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RE:RE:To Mike Gandhi
by chaitanya kumar on Mar 19, 2007 04:59 PM  Permalink
It doesn't matter man. Hinduism or whatever you call it, it's all the same. What's in a name. What's important is people have some ways and values which they seem to share and culture which differs from region to region and has a common thread in it's approach. Maybe the future Hindus will rename themselves to something new.

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RE:RE:RE:To Mike Gandhi
by Anthony Joseph on Mar 19, 2007 05:21 PM  Permalink
if hindus are one billion from 1830, then surely they will wipe out islam in the next five years. only christianity and hinduism will remain

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RE:HEY CYBERHINWA - Judge for yourself what a lie Hinduism is!
by Subba Rao Vure on Mar 19, 2007 04:33 PM  Permalink
Mr.Mike Gandhi
Why you single out Brahmins? Because they cannot take up arms and kill people like you? Can you accuse the same against other upper castes. Definitely you will be butchered.
IF you want to comment on the article, speak and write only truth but don't take sides.


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RE:RE:HEY CYBERHINWA - Judge for yourself what a lie Hinduism is!
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 19, 2007 07:56 PM  Permalink
Brahmans never fight but they were behind the all battles and looting and murdering. The Brahmans designs all killings in the Hinduism and Hindu History.

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RE:HEY CYBERHINWA - Judge for yourself what a lie Hinduism is!
by CG NAIR on Mar 19, 2007 04:31 PM  Permalink
Earlier those who were visiting the Kaba were not allowed to wear their own clothes. They had to brrow the same from the local residents or if they wore their own, those clothes were to be donated to the locals. Most of the piligrims therefore visited Kaba in complete nudity. There are many customs like this in any community. Finding an answer to the same in 21st century is a futile exercise.

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RE:RE:HEY CYBERHINWA - Judge for yourself what a lie Hinduism is!
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 19, 2007 08:03 PM  Permalink
C G NAIR IS JUST MAD. He doesnt know that Nudity in Islam Haram. Not only for woman it is ordained for man. May he got record of before Islam. Second he got mad and writing whatever he likes. Thirdly this RSS Gang Goons new agenda and literary work.

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RE:RE:RE:HEY CYBERHINWA - Judge for yourself what a lie Hinduism is!
by CG NAIR on Mar 20, 2007 12:04 PM  Permalink
Please read the Koran freely available on the Site of Project Gutenberg and understand for yourself!

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