RE:Used research Logic, You what is this? This Eye Opener
by wada pav on Mar 20, 2007 04:49 PM Permalink
while there is nothing dangerous or controversial in points # 1 , 2 , 3 ,4 .
points 5, 6, 7 are just baseless allegations you are making without providing evidence.
RE:Used research Logic, You what is this? This Eye Opener
by wada pav on Mar 20, 2007 04:51 PM Permalink
SRI RAVI SHANKAR IS A SCHOLAR OF HINDUISM, BUT HE HAS NOT LEARNED ISLAM, SO HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THE KORAN AND HADITHS SAY.
I HAVE PROVIDED ENOUGH EVIDENCE IN THE FORM OF EXACT VERSES FROM KORAN AND HADITH TO PROVE WHAT ISLAM IS LIKE.
RE:RE:RE:Used research Logic, You what is this? This Eye Opener
by chaitanya kumar on Mar 20, 2007 06:12 PM Permalink
if you are really a dalit, it would do you a lot good to get out of that state of mind. Victim complex must not be exaggerated to oneself. It will be self-destructive. If you are not, you are just playing with the identity to bring people a bad name.
RE:Bura Haal Hai
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 20, 2007 04:31 PM Permalink
Yes this people need mental surgery they can see only Saffron Color. they Got Jaundice
RE:This zionist should be expelled from the country!!!
by chaitanya kumar on Mar 20, 2007 03:55 PM Permalink
you live in a conspiracy world. Why do you use Ekalaya name and disrespect the guy.
RE:This zionist should be expelled from the country!!!
by Secular Indian on Mar 20, 2007 04:49 PM Permalink
Are only muslims allowed to disturb communal harmony ? Look at Kashmir, Bombay blasts, Godhra train buring, Samjhauta express, the list is endless ...
RE:RE:This zionist should be expelled from the country!!!
by Ekalavyan on Mar 20, 2007 05:09 PM Permalink
These are all acts of counter terrorisms. Brahmin controlled both state and "Knicker Party" terrorism is most dreaded.We Dalits and OBC's also victims of Brahmin controlled terrorism.
RE:RE:RE:This zionist should be expelled from the country!!!
by Indigo on Mar 20, 2007 09:10 PM Permalink
do not tarnish the image of brahmins. brahmins form hardly 3% of the total hindu population and to expect the they commit attrociites on dalits is illogical. the greatest hindu saints like dynaneshwar, eknath, ramdas, tulsidas were all brahmins. They told the society the importance of equality. It takes guts to be born as a brahmin fight for freedom like savarkar and tilak. you are plainly jealous
Many of the people, who had been trying to advocate the spread of Islam (I am referring mainly whose base are India, including Pakistan and Bangladesh), I pose a simple question because I could never found the answer against a very simple question, as to whether they have gone through their ancestral history and background, as under which circumstances their ancestors were forced for conversion, and the agony and deep pain their ancestors have faced. Can one realize the agony, pain and atrocities their female ancestors (including rape, sex abuse etc.) have suffered? Lots of authentic history is available, as these are not very old. Even today also if someone marries to any Muslim, the Muslim community forces the person (who intend to marry the marry Muslim partner be it boy or girl) for conversion to Islam. I personally have series of example and their subsequent repentant once they realise the blunder they have committed, which sometime results to loss of life even. Is it not disgusting to force someone for conversion or emotionally blackmail as the person has fallen in love. Earlier it was at the point of sword.
I wonder as to what it compels a person to abuse their own ancestors whose blessings these fundamentalist are and their old blood. Is Islam not teaching to urinate to their own ancestors, their own forefathers? In this country, 99.99% people are Indian (if you have some hesitation to call as Hindu) and they carry Indian background, then why there is such fanaticism for Arab culture, mind it that there is no relation between culture and religion.
I strongly feel that learned psychologists can throw their opinion, as to how the religious fanaticism (or insane) can kill the whole personality (mentally), where a person lost his natural sensibility to differentiate between truth and illusion, forget their past as well as present. How a person despite acquiring reasonably good qualification does not acquire the education, and they feel themselves proud in captivating their mind and soul to so called illiterate, illogical and fanatic religious leaders (say Mullah / Maulvis etc.), who always use to quote and subsequently interpret and misinterpret from religious book (at all if it pure and religious) as per their own vested interest and always prevent their community people to think logically. For example some Mullah / Mulavis issue FATWAH against Sania Mirza, a young girl brings glory for the country, which is very rare in the community, some Mullah / Maulvi bashes to Shabana Azami, a lady of rare talent, bring glory for the country, educated people never respect our present President H.E. APJ Abdul Kalam, and no young generation wants to like this as he is not fundamentalist so he is not Muslim, few great talent like journalist Saeed Naqvi, despite have talent he never talks logically, he always bashes America and Bush, but never tells the true story of Saddam, about his cruelty, about his son%u2019s cruelty, about his genocides and how Saddam conspired against Iran with the help of America, how did he receive the arms and ammunition, how he invaded Kuwait etc. etc., despite Saeed Naqvi is journalist par at excellence, but religious fanaticism has blocked his thinking and analytical ability and acts like joker.
Again, the people ancestors were forced (may be lured also) for conversion, raped their mothers and sisters, now fanatic about their own enemies.
How one does not read about their own culture rather study Arab culture, whose illegitimate products they are?
Can anyone tell me how one can be so blunt and fool?
RE:Can anyone have answer, against these truths?
by Ekalavyan on Mar 20, 2007 04:19 PM Permalink
Brahmanism thrives on Lies!!!. It is actually abundle of lies.
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by Secular Indian on Mar 20, 2007 02:22 PM Permalink
Your lunatic ravings are only confirming everyones suspicions, you are mental.
ROFL ...
For some comedy here is a link to Dr. Zakir Naik's explanation on why you can't build a temple or a church in Islamic countries, most notably Saudi Arabia.
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by An Indian on Mar 20, 2007 03:36 PM Permalink
Hi! rafiuddin farooqui
Whose product your are? Who are your ancestors? Are you not aware that how the Arabs invaded our country, how those bugger forced the innoconet people of this country, how they raped the indian female. Whatever relgion you have have adopted, but you can never change the truth that your ancestors were Indian, and you are their blessings only. How fool you are or the fundamentalism has teached you to rape your own mental and thinking ability. You are basically a product of sex abuse. We are ready to embrace you after all you carry the same country background as we. An Indian
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by Mike Gandhi on Mar 20, 2007 04:12 PM Permalink
ARE YOU DALIT ?? IF YOUR ANSWER IS YES THEN YOU CAN CLAIM INDIA IS YOUR COUNTRY. OTHERWISE YOU ARE LIKE US.
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by Secular Indian on Mar 20, 2007 04:41 PM Permalink
Are you saying all Muslims are Dalits ?
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by Secular Indian on Mar 21, 2007 03:46 AM Permalink
How does that matter ? So you agree all Muslims are dalits ?
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by Mike Gandhi on Mar 20, 2007 04:49 PM Permalink
I AM ASKING YOUR IDENTITY. OK YOU WANT TO SAY MUSLIMS ARE YOUR COUSINS ?????
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by An Indian on Mar 21, 2007 04:13 PM Permalink
I have posted many messages and I claim I am not Brahmin, neither by birth nor by practice. I am with cosmopolitan background; enjoy friendly relationship with people from diverse background, religion; from Muslim, to Hindu, to Sikh, to Christian etc. etc. have widely travelled across the country and tried the find the reason behind such hatred, fundamentalism, fanaticism, denial of one%u2019s background / ancestors etc. etc. and whoever were logical they agree the truth, but those did not have the courage, tried to hushed-up the matter, but failed to reply rationally and logically. The biggest religion for the mankind is humanism and that is based on the truth. It is a universal truth that Sun raises in the East and it would be, I or anybody else in the earth does not have power to change or reverse it, so all the logical people would accept it and rest would try to hush-up the matter on the pretext of some or other. I have raised many burning topics through my earlier messages, which are affecting the life of majority (not on the basis of religion, rather basis of views / opinion), but so far no reader has replied.
For example, I often asked from my friends (including Muslims, qualified if not educated, but not that sort of hard core fundamentalists) that:
Why there should a separate personal law in the land (or in other word, why the people want to separate themselves from other, why they want to create differences when Islam teaches equality etc. etc. though the reasons may be many, responsible may be some unscrupulous political and religious leaders, but who is ultimately suffering, getting exploited, object of dissidences etc.)
Why there should be Haz subsidies, the waste of taxpayer%u2019s money (who has nothing to do with the Haz pilgrimage), and why to create again dissidences.
Why my Muslim brothers and sisters do not come forward to discard such exploitation and reduce the dissidences and bring the equality. Do they not feel that using the money of others though might have robbed legally, is not immoral and unethical.
In my personal life none of my Muslim friends had any answer. Here also our learned readers instead of correcting me, some has abused me, some tried to paste me the tag of Brahmin etc. etc. I am an Indian hard core patriot by heart and soul, and have deep pain when such fundamentalists tries to destabilize the social, psychological and economic life of Indian people. I can imagine the life in next 15 %u2013 20 years, as to what would happen if we are trying ignite the dissidence.
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by An Indian on Mar 20, 2007 05:57 PM Permalink
Hello, Mike Gandhi
All the people who carry humanism, the biggest religion of the world, are my brothers (not only cousin) but absolutely not the fundamentalists, criminals, invaders, rapist, terrorists etc. etc.. Yes I am a true Indian, by heart and by soul. I r live in this country, blessed by all the resources of this country, be it its people (remind you true and true Indian) and I am indebted. I do not belong to the community, who lives here, sleeps here, eat here, drink here, in hale here but are loyal to Arab culture, countries and also to our enemy country. I believe in brotherhood but never subscribe to religious fundamentalists who justify everything exploiting their religion, be it using (or misusing) the personal laws, be enjoying the taxpayers money as subsidy for their own religious lust (I repeat lust) etc. etc. Why the people who believes that the Islam is for brotherhood and equality, should not come forward for discriminatory laws (which is called as personal), why they themselves should not come forward to discard the Haz subsidy, after all it is the money of taxpayers (who has nothing to do with the Haz pilgrimage), though it is now law for the exploitation of Muslim votes, as so far in India the Muslims have been treated as commodity by all the political parties and this is the major cause of their non-development, because the political parties does not want that Muslims should developed, so provide them toys like reservation, so that they should always keep on playing with those.
I do not know how long the majority (nothing to do with any religion, strictly true Indian, who loves their country and its resources) would tolerate this. How long the majority would allow these series of nonsense in the name of personal laws (as to why a special law for a particular community), or the misuse of taxpayer%u2019s revenue in the name of Haz Pilgrimages etc. My dear Mike Gandhi, whoever you may be if there are inequalities, illogical differences; dissidences are bound to erupt. Can you tell me any Arab country where any minority; say Hindu has ever headed the state, those countries are not declared even secular and the name of democracy is dream for them. My dear Mike Gandhi, be logical and maintain this country as real secular and do not try to exploit it, otherwise you are creating a trouble for your coming generation, probably after our generation, you may not find a secular person like me and it would be curse for our country, mind it is not only for me rather for you and your coming generation also. You can take it as friendly advice or future warning; this would depend upon your mental ability. If you go through my previous postings you would find that I have given several examples with quite details. In my friend circle, all the Muslim friends, directly or indirectly agrees it as they are reasonably educated, logical and they have the capability to smell it. Otherwise you can see the conditions of Muslim countries, be it peace, be it standard of living, be it literacy and education etc. etc.
Now who are you, who are you ancestors, whose blessing you are etc. etc., I leave for your introspection. Everyone has little brain, so you also, the answer is lying within you. If you have the guts, lie yourself, betray yourself, pit on you and your ancestors, it is again upto you. You have to decide, who are you and what you want to be. From my point of view, every person is supreme within himself or herself and I think you are not different. I have praise for all the human being, so for you also and what esteem your have for yourself, it is your decision. God (or Allah) bless you and provide some positive human thinking.
At the end, I am an Indian, I do not believe in discrimination; mingle with everyone (including Muslims and Dalits, I eat with them, drink with them and maintain high level of cordial relationship, but not with fundamentalists, rather I hate when someone does not use his brain, rather starts quoting something from their holy within knowing anything) and I hope I could clear your doubts that what I am. It is our country, a country for all the patriots.
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by Secular Indian on Mar 20, 2007 04:41 PM Permalink
There has never been an Aryan invasion!
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by Secular Indian on Mar 21, 2007 03:47 AM Permalink
You tell me, you seem to be the self styled expert on this Brahminism.
