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SHARIA: HORRIBLE PUNISHMENTS FOR MINOR CRIMES
by wada pav on Mar 21, 2007 01:16 AM  Permalink 

HORRIBLE PUNISHMENTS FOR MINOR CRIMES



"A hand is cut off if he steals (anything) that costs one-fourth of a dinar and over. May God curse the thief. If he steals an egg, his hand must be cut off, or if he steals a rope, his hand must be cut off" (refer to Sahih of the Bukhari, part 8, pp. 199-201).



"A man stole the gown of Safwan while he was in the mosque. Safwan, who was one of Muhammad%u2019s famous companions, arrested him and brought him to Muhammad. Muhammad ordered his hand to be cut off. Safwan shouted with surprise, %u2018Because of my gown you cut off his hand? I give it to him free.%u2019 Muhammad said to him, %u2018That would only have been possible before you brought him to me.%u2019 Muhammad ordered his hand to be cut off immediately" (refer to ibn Timiyya, volume 28, page 311; ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya, part 5, page 51 of Zad of the Ma%u2019ad).







"The punishment of whipping shall be inflicted by means of a knotless whip of medium length and a single tip after stripping the convict of such clothing as may prevent pain to the body. Strokes must be divided all over the body; regarding women, the strokes may only be on her back and shoulders."





"A person found guilty of theft shall be punishable as follows: 1 - amputation of the right hand for the first offense, 2 - amputation of the left foot for the second offense, 3 -imprisonment till the time of evident repentance for subsequent offenses."

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IF SAME PUNISHMENTS ARE IMPLEMENTED IN INDIA FOR MUSLIMS,

MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS WILL LOSE THEIR HANDS AND LEGS.

THEY MUST FEEL FORTUNATE THAT THEY LIVE IN A DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY

AND NOT A TRIBAL 7TH CENTURY ARAB COUNTRY.

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The other thousands of Atrocities not reported.
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 21, 2007 12:53 AM  Permalink 

The Atrocities in Nagpur reported after two months after much protest and still there is no action. there are thousands of cases are not reported.

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Take Now- Wada Pav - Most recent 2005. Shall I start reports from 1947 till now or it is enough
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 21, 2007 12:51 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Data collected by the government and its agencies highlight the scale of physical aggression and oppression faced by Dalit communities. The 2005 Annual Report of the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) under the Union Ministry of Home Affairs states that a crime against Scheduled Caste (S.C.) communities is committed every 20 minutes in the country. It records that 26,127 cases of atrocities against S.C communities were reported last year. In 2004, the recorded number of crimes against Dalits was 26,887. The 2005 report states that there were 1,172 cases of rape of Dalit women, 669 cases of murder, 258 cases of kidnapping and abduction and 3,847 cases of causing hurt. There were 291 cases under the Protection of Civil Rights Act and 8,497 cases under the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes (Prevention of Atrocities) Act.



Atrocities against Dalits range from verbal abuse to rape and forcing them to consume human excreta and urine; from denial of access to public amenities such as drinking water, roads, bus stops, markets and temples to denial of civil rights; from physical harm to social boycotts. Police personnel often play a role in the violence against Dalits; custodial rape and violence are among the most frequent forms of assault on the community. All sorts of things invite attacks on Dalits: alleged "disobedience" of village elders, refusal to perform `duties' such as conveying information about deaths, or a Dalit boy falling in love with a caste-Hindu girl. Even the victory of a football team of Dalit boys in a school match, or a Dalit bus driver's refusal to oblige a caste Hindu by stopping the vehicle near his residence, have provoked atrocities against Dalit villages in the southern districts of Tamil Nadu.



The report indicted successive governments for their lukewarm response to atrocities against Dalits and criticised the continued hostility to Dalits amid orthodox and influential sections in the dominant community. What is unique about violence against Dalits is that the victims are "chosen on the basis of birth in a given society", the report said. It blamed the caste-based, hierarchical social structure, a creation of the dominant castes, for dividing society into privileged and subdued groups with Dalits at the bottom and outside the caste order. "The frequency and intensity of violence," the report said, "is an offshoot of desperate attempts by the upper-caste groups to protect their entrenched status against the process of disengagement and upward mobility among lower castes, resulting from affirmative action of State policy [enshrined in the Constitution of India]."





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RE:Take Now- Wada Pav - Most recent 2005. Shall I start reports from 1947 till now or it is enough
by wada pav on Mar 21, 2007 01:01 AM  Permalink
How many have died according to this report ?

Only 669 dead . other figures are for injuries , kidnapping etc.

compare that with 8.2 million people killed by ur people worldwide./

who is more violent ?

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IS THIS ENOUGH TO SHUT YOUR MOUTH OR DO YOU NEED MORE EVIDENCE?
by wada pav on Mar 21, 2007 12:25 AM  Permalink 

???????

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SORRY , FORGOT TO MENTION DARFUR
by wada pav on Mar 21, 2007 12:23 AM  Permalink 

2003-2007 , 2,50000 black muslim africans ( najis , dirty as they are called by arabs, killed by arab janjaweed militia.)

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Apna Bharat Mahan.
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 21, 2007 12:22 AM  Permalink 

Since Morning Wada Pav posting a Saudi lady poem. I have two lines for him which every Indian says.



so mein nav ve beman.

In Hundred we have 90 dis honest people.

Apna Bharat hai Mahan.

Our country India is the greatest.



I am not in the 10 and in the 90 these wada pav bhaji, idly dosa, secular, lingo, bingo.



I love this name Hindustan. Which give the essence of love, liberty, passion, unity, equility, justice and peace. I like name Baharat ( country of Spices).

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HOW MANY HINDUS DIED OF CASTE SYSTEM/UNTOUCHABILITY
by wada pav on Mar 21, 2007 12:21 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Not more than 20,000.

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RE:HOW MANY HINDUS DIED OF CASTE SYSTEM/UNTOUCHABILITY
by Ekalavyan on Mar 21, 2007 01:27 PM  Permalink
Millions of millions of Dalits and obC's are tortured, mudered, gangraped, looted everyday by upper caste thugs headed by Brahmin criminals.

Even today this is everyday happening. We need not use adjective criminal, every born Brahmin is a criminal. What is the psychology behind this YOUR vulgar posting?

A CRIMINAL MINDSET

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RE:RE:HOW MANY HINDUS DIED OF CASTE SYSTEM/UNTOUCHABILITY
by bharatiya on Mar 21, 2007 02:13 PM  Permalink
EVERYDAY?

This country is ruled by Non-Hindus, this Govt. is all of reserved catagory. The millions being murdered & raped everyday are GENERAL class people. The reseved class people are busy occupying Govt. positions snatched away from deserving general class candidates. Who can murder & rape them? Infact it is they who are murdering & raping our helpless country.



AND STOP SHOOTING IRRELEVANT ARGUEMENTS FROM YOUR DIRTY MOUTH.

I AM 101% SURE THAT YOU ARE A PAKI. Your only interest seems to be making Indians fight each other.

Huda Hafiz!

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RE:RE:RE:HOW MANY HINDUS DIED OF CASTE SYSTEM/UNTOUCHABILITY
by Ekalavyan on Mar 21, 2007 08:01 PM  Permalink
Fantastic nonsense!!! You are only a two legged animal

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RE:HOW MANY HINDUS DIED OF CASTE SYSTEM/UNTOUCHABILITY
by Mike Gandhi on Mar 21, 2007 03:17 PM  Permalink
HEY PAV BHAJI,



ARE YOU DALIT ??



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TOTAL 8.2 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED BY MUSLIMS IN THE LAST 100 YEARS
by wada pav on Mar 21, 2007 12:20 AM  Permalink 

Aurangzeb was much better.

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GENOCIDES COMMITTED BY MUSLIMS IN 20TH CENTURY
by wada pav on Mar 21, 2007 12:18 AM  Permalink 

1910-1920 1 million arabs and turks die in arab vs turk conflict

1971 2 million bangladeshis killed by pakistani army

1970-1980 1 million dead in iran iraq ?(shia sunni ) war

1947-2007 100,000 dead in Shia - sunni conflict in Pakistan

2003-2007 300,000 dead in Shia - sunni conflict in Iraq

2000-2007 100,000 killed by Indonesians in Acheh



TOTAL 4.5 MILLION (45 lakhs) MUSLIMS KILLED BY MUSLIMS

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