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WHAT EXACTLY IS JIZIYA ? PLEASE ALLOW ME TO CLARIFY : PART 3
by wada pav on Mar 23, 2007 02:02 AM  Permalink 

Sura 9:29

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stipulates that jizya be exacted from non-Muslims as a condition required for jihad to cease. Failure to pay the jizya could result in the pledge of protection of a dhimmi's life and property becoming void, with the dhimmi facing the alternatives of conversion, enslavement or death (or imprisonment, as advocated by Abu Yusuf, the chief qadi %u2014 religious judge %u2014 of Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid).



Ibn Kathir on Sura 9:29,

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writes that dhimmis must be:



disgraced, humiliated and belittled. Therefore, Muslims are not allowed to honor the people of the dhimma or elevate them above Muslims, for they [dhimmis] are miserable, disgraced, and humiliated.[107]



(Al-Suyuti's tafsir on Sura 9:29)[117]

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Saaghiruuna means] submissively%u2026 by coercion%u2026 [%u2019an yadin means] directly, not trusting the trickery of an intermediary%u2026 by force%u2026 without resistance%u2026 in an unpraiseworthy manner%u2026 while you stand [and the dhimmi] sits with the whip in front of you [you take] the money while he has dirt on his head.



Muhammad (Sahih Muslim 26:5389), Hasan al-Kafrawi, an 18th century scholar

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"if you [Muslims] encounter one of them [dhimmis] on the road, push him into the narrowest and tightest spot".[120]



Sahih Bukhari

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Volume 4, Book 53, Number 386 states that Muhammad commanded Al-Mughira and his army to fight non-Muslims until they worshiped Allah alone or gave jizya.



Sahih Muslim

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Book 19, Number 4294 states that Muhammad commanded his military leaders to demand jizya from non-Muslims if they refused to accept Islam, and to fight them if they refused to pay.



Al-Muwatta

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Book 17, Number 17.24.46 states that Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz relieved those who converted to Islam from paying jizya. It also gives the sunnah on those who must pay jizya, principally non-Muslim males who have reached puberty, rather than zakat, as zakat is for the purpose of purifying Muslims, whereas jizya is for the purpose of humbling non-Muslims. It also outlines the additional jizya travelling traders must pay, and the rationale for that.





Al-Muwatta

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Book 17, Number 17.24.44 states that Umar ibn al-Khattab imposed a jizya tax of four dinars on those living where gold was the currency, and forty dirhams on those living where silver was the currency. As well, they had to "provide for the Muslims and receive them as guests for three days".



Al-Zamakhshari

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, a Mu'tazili author of

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WHAT EXACTLY IS JIZIYA ? PLEASE ALLOW ME TO CLARIFY : PART 2
by wada pav on Mar 23, 2007 01:54 AM  Permalink 

RELIGIOUS SUPPORT FOR JIZIYA IN KORAN , SURA , HADITHS

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Koran 9.29

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"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold forbidden that which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.[9]"

The last word subdued in arabic 'SAGHIROON' which means "low, lowly, despised, contemptible; humbled, meek, dejected; submissive, servile; subject."

"subject of Islam or, more accurately, as a member of an inferior social class"



Interpretation of the above verse by reputed islamic scholars

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Yusuf Ali:

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book,until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.



Pickthal:

Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.



Shakir:

Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority (of islam) and they are in a state of subjection.





More in PART 3 on support for Jiziya in Sura's and Hadiths.

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WHAT EXACTLY IS JIZIYA ? PLEASE ALLOW ME TO CLARIFY : PART 1
by wada pav on Mar 23, 2007 01:48 AM  Permalink 

1.There is a deliberate attempt by some members of the forum to downplay the ferocity of Jiziya.

2.Also there is a misconception that Jiziya is a tax.

3.Jiziya is not a tax. It is a set of around 20 restrictions, one of which is tax.

4.The original terms of Jiziya can be found in Caliph Umars pact with Christians and Jews ,after he invaded and captured Egypt



The terms of Jiziya are broadly as follows. Various rulers added /deleted on their own.

Note:'Dhimmi' is the non-muslim subject of a territory captured by muslims

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1. Display of non-Muslim religious symbols was prohibited on buildings and on clothing.



2. Loud prayers were forbidden.



3. Dhimmis were prohibited from proselytizing.they were also forbidden from preventing a dhimmi from being converted to islam.



4. Dhimnmis were prohibited fromn publishing or sale of non-Muslim religious literature and a ban on teaching the Qur%u2019an.



5. Dhimmis had to bury their dead without loud lamentations and prayers.



6. Dhimmis were not to rebuild or repair destroyed temples.



7. Dhimmi testimony and oaths were not valid against Muslims.On the other hand, Muslims could testify against



Dhimmis.



8. Dhimmis had no right to bear arms of any kind.



9. Dhimmis were forbidden to ride horses or camels; they were only allowed to ride donkeys.



10.Dhimmis could not to build houses higher than those of Muslims.



11.Dhimmi man could not marry a Muslim woman.



12.Dhimmis had to build their houses away from muslim localities.



13.Dhimmis had to wear distinctive clothing.



14.Dhimmis had to bow their heads to every muslim on the street.



14.Dhimmis had to invite Muslims to all their private meetings.



15.Muslim travellers would be allowed to stay in Temples of Dhimmis.Dhimmis would provide food and entertainment.



16.If Dhimmi is unable to pay tax ,then he would be punished,including confiscation of women.



17.Dhimmis could not practice their religion outside their homes.



18.Dhimmis has to pay 50% to 70% of their income or agricultural produce to the state.



19.Muslim can inherit from a dhimmi, while a dhimmi cannot inherit anything from a Muslim.



20.Dhimmis who travel on business would have to pay additional tax.



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In PART 2 ,I will explain the religious basis of Jiziya and the exact verses from Koran , Sura and Hadiths which support jiziya.

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L'histoire de l'Inde moderne (Fayard), the French equivalent of Percival Spear's history of India, praises Aurangzeb and says, 'He has been maligned by Hindu fundamentalists'
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 22, 2007 11:10 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

You Asked for it?

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Aurangzeb was driven by an intense Muslim piety. He insisted that the Shari'a(Mistaken or wrongly got He just make Just rule and given 148 highest position to Hindus in Judiciary to deal the cases) become the law of the land, and forbade all drinking and gambling. The Hindu majority, accustomed to living according to Hindu law, the Dharmashastra , now found themselves facing Islamic law courts. Aurangzeb outlawed the Hindu practice of suttee in which widows voluntarily killed themselves by throwing themselves on the funeral pyre of their husbands. More seriously, however, was Aurangzeb's repeal of all taxes that were not specifically authorized in Islamic law or tradition

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Aurangzeb is become wicked to the Brahmans and Higher Castes Hindus, because he had started reformation and applied correcting measures to Hindu society and Culture. In his rule recorded that many Temple and Ashram which runs as Brothels closed. The Gambling, Drinking and other practices Devdasi, Slavery was banned. He initiated reformation that made villain to Brahmans and Higher Castes. Because Aurangzeb wanted to liberate BC/ST/SC and Dalit from the clutches and wrong practices of Brahmans and Higher Castes and bring equality. The all filth written in the History by Western Writers, come from where. By these RSS and GANGS and Goons work. They Gave Vish Kanniya and Rewards to write against Aurangzeb and they also wrote books, brochure against him to spread hatred. They want to use now. This was the strategy. The forced conversion, razing temples, killing Hindus all were fabricated and heinous work of these hatred mongers. They want to rule India by encouraging hatred against Muslims. Encouraging Hatred against could not unite Hindus. The only thing is Revolution which is a step ahead.

Note: The Francois Gautier is bogus writer.

1. Any student he wants to study about Aurangzeb he must read the FARMANS (Edict of Aurangzeb GOVERNMETN ORDERS) the basic documents.

2. Mr. Francois Gautier claims he studied 30 years Indian history with specialization Aurangzeb. He wrote in the article he got FARHANS.

From his Article:

Firstly, I have been a close student of Indian history, and one of its most controversial figures has been Aurangzeb (1658-1707).

History (like journalism) is about documentation and first-hand experience. We decided to show Aurangzeb according to his own documents. There are an incredible number of farhans, original edicts of Aurangzeb hand-written in Persian, in India's museums, particularly in Rajasthan, such as the Bikaner archives.

The director of Bikaner archives told us that in 50 years we were the first ones asking for the farhans dealing with Aurangzeb's destructive deeds.

We encountered resistance, sometimes downright hostility and we had to go once to the chief minister to get permission

Then we asked pa

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RE:L'histoire de l'Inde moderne (Fayard), the French equivalent of Percival Spear's history of India, praises Aurangzeb and says, 'He has been maligned by Hindu fundamentalists'
by An Indian on Mar 23, 2007 10:51 AM  Permalink
I would like to know your identity, your original and your ancestral background, to reply you.

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L'histoire de l'Inde moderne (Fayard), the French equivalent of Percival Spear's history of India, praises Aurangzeb and says, 'He has been maligned by Hindu fundamentalists'.
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 22, 2007 10:49 PM  Permalink 

You Asked for it?

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Aurangzeb was driven by an intense Muslim piety. He insisted that the Shari'a(Mistaken or wrongly got He just make Just rule and given 148 highest position to Hindus in Judiciary to deal the cases) become the law of the land, and forbade all drinking and gambling. The Hindu majority, accustomed to living according to Hindu law, the Dharmashastra , now found themselves facing Islamic law courts. Aurangzeb outlawed the Hindu practice of suttee in which widows voluntarily killed themselves by throwing themselves on the funeral pyre of their husbands. More seriously, however, was Aurangzeb's repeal of all taxes that were not specifically authorized in Islamic law or tradition

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Aurangzeb is become wicked to the Brahmans and Higher Castes Hindus, because he had started reformation and applied correcting measures to Hindu society and Culture. In his rule recorded that many Temple and Ashram which runs as Brothels closed. The Gambling, Drinking and other practices Devdasi, Slavery was banned. He initiated reformation that made villain to Brahmans and Higher Castes. Because Aurangzeb wanted to liberate BC/ST/SC and Dalit from the clutches and wrong practices of Brahmans and Higher Castes and bring equality. The all filth written in the History by Western Writers, come from where. By these RSS and GANGS and Goons work. They Gave Vish Kanniya and Rewards to write against Aurangzeb and they also wrote books, brochure against him to spread hatred. They want to use now. This was the strategy. The forced conversion, razing temples, killing Hindus all were fabricated and heinous work of these hatred mongers. They want to rule India by encouraging hatred against Muslims. Encouraging Hatred against could not unite Hindus. The only thing is Revolution which is a step ahead.

Note: The Francois Gautier is bogus writer.

1. Any student he wants to study about Aurangzeb he must read the FARMANS (Edict of Aurangzeb GOVERNMETN ORDERS) the basic documents.

2. Mr. Francois Gautier claims he studied 30 years Indian history with specialization Aurangzeb. He wrote in the article he got FARHANS.

From his Article:

Firstly, I have been a close student of Indian history, and one of its most controversial figures has been Aurangzeb (1658-1707).

History (like journalism) is about documentation and first-hand experience. We decided to show Aurangzeb according to his own documents. There are an incredible number of farhans, original edicts of Aurangzeb hand-written in Persian, in India's museums, particularly in Rajasthan, such as the Bikaner archives.

The director of Bikaner archives told us that in 50 years we were the first ones asking for the farhans dealing with Aurangzeb's destructive deeds.

We encountered resistance, sometimes downright hostility and we had to go once to the chief minister to get permission

Then we

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JIZYA - JIZYA - JIZYA - READ CAREFULLY DO NOT ASK NEXT TIME
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 22, 2007 10:46 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

JIZYA - JIZYA - JIZYA - WE MUSLIMS READY TO JOIN IN THE POLICE, ARMY, AIR FORCE AND TO PAY JIZYA

by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 22, 2007 08:29 PM | Hide replies | Hide message







Many people just mis-guiding the people and make propoganda agains Islam and also against Aurangzeb. Mr. Francois Gautier is A disciple of SRI SRI RAVI SHANKER AND he took his early Hindu Education in Aurbindo Ashram with Ladies Priests. He wrote many books and articles on Hinduism and Hindutva. He is a staunch supporter of BJP and RSS Gang. He is one of the propogator of RSS GANG LIKE ARUN SHOURIE, MUKHTAR ABBAS NAQVI. BE AWARE.



1. Non-believers are called Dhimmis in Muslim States. The Non-Muslims have to pay levy, tax or Jizya.



2. The Non-Muslims Young Man who are eligible to pay, not serving in the Army. The Old man, Woman, children are exempted.



3. This is not paid as bribe for practicing their faith, but rather as compensation for not serving in the Army.



4. The Muslim Government responsible for their protection by all means from crusading armies, tribal or communal warfare.



5. The special tax required of non-Muslim dhimmis under Islamic law, was actually less than zakat 2.5 percent.



6. All eligible Muslims have to pay zakat 2.5 percent.



7. All Muslims and Dhimmis have to pay Zakat or Tax on Farming 10 percent if the production is more than the Nisab(fixed amount decided by the Economist) or the person is eligible.



8. The Zakat is must for Muslims also some western writer miss-informed. Our First Caliph Abu Baker Siddiq R.A. Said if any body is not giving Zakat take by anyway if its war. So-called journalists scream that the Jizya is a tool of inequality, they fail to see that there is a tax levied on Muslims as well, the Zakat, which non-Muslims are not required to pay.





FOR YOUR KIND INFORMATION.



We Muslims are ready to pay Jizya 2.5% and we will not pay house tax, land tax, income tax, sales tax and other taxes.



We are ready to join in the Police, Army and Air force give us chance and the Jobs.



The Government should give us Guarantee to protect from the Communal and other warfare%u2019s and genocides.



Today we are paying hell of taxes directly and indirectly and the fools still talk about the Jizya and other things. You people must understand this is all Propaganda against Islam. This already gave Islam a boost from West to East and North to South people reading about Islam and coming into the fold of Islam.





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RE:JIZYA - JIZYA - JIZYA - READ CAREFULLY DO NOT ASK NEXT TIME
by wada pav on Mar 23, 2007 02:19 PM  Permalink
YOU WANT TO JOIN ARMY , POLICE ,WELL, WHAT R U WAITING FOR, WHY DON'T YOU WRITE EXAMS LIKE NDA , IMA , MPSC etc.

OR R U EXPECTING A PALKHI TO BE SENT TO YOUR HOUSE TO PICK U UP ?

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RE:JIZYA - JIZYA - JIZYA - WE MUSLIMS READY TO JOIN IN THE POLICE, ARMY, AIR FORCE AND TO PAY JIZYA
by tabrez ameer on Mar 22, 2007 09:12 PM  Permalink
well written keep it up

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