AurangZebs were the days of military rule. subjects and citizens wished to have the strongest and the wisest as their ruler. everybody had got a right to prove himself to be the best ruler. and only war between the different candidates could judge, who would be the best. no matter what relationship the candidates had between themselves.
We know that a state, a kingdom or a government is for basically giving peace and justice in a society. Peace can be hampered for a while to bring a larger justice....like a situation of war. and again little injustice can be justified to bring and keep the larger peace around.....like a situation of curfew in any area.
and the expansion of an empire is also not unjust. Mughal emperors did it like Ashoka and Alexander-the Greats conquered lands and made empires.
AurangZeb in particular might have been more intolerant towards the injustices of Brahmins on the lower castes.... and also towards the social/spiritual/physical evil acts/rituals that were prevalent in the temples of those days. he had got his own personality and methodology........ open to critism from all. but making this issue a tool of condeming all muslim kings and religion of Islam is a sheer foolishness.... and even dangerous for society as a whole.
when i say.....
AurangZeb in particular might have been more intolerant towards the injustices.........
i mean.... it's natural to be INTOLERANT towards larger INJUSTICES..... in fact it's desired.....
and so.... jehad is needed. JIHAD means organised effort/struggle to remove/kill the badness from SELF....SYSTYEM....SURROUNDING and if needed those MEN who comes on the way of that effort. GANDHI/BOSE/BHAGAT/TERESA/BABA-AMTE/MILITARY GENERALS.... all did or are doing JIHAD their own way.
We forget that AurangZeb took Zakat from Muslims as Jizya from NonMuslims.
RE:My freinds, Keep the BASICS in mind.
by sania on Mar 27, 2007 04:25 PM Permalink
HEY DONT USE THE TERM JIHAD FOR THE FIGHT FOR FREEDOM ALRIGHT6.. OUR PEOPLE DID NOT KILL INNCOCENT PEOPLE LIKE THE JIHADIS NOW.. OUR PEOPLE GAVE THIER LIFE FOR FREEDOM JUST DONTY EVEN IMAGINE OR COMPARE FREEDOM STRUGGLE TO JIHAD.. IT WAS WITHIN INDIA.. BUT THIS STUPID JIHADI FIGHTERS ARE KILLING PEOPLE NOT ONLY WITHIN PAKISTHAN BUT PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD.. WHAT RIGHTS THEY HAVE GOT TO DO SO.. IF U KNOW THE REALY MEANING OF MUSLIM ULL NOT TALK ALL THIS RUBBISH.. FIRST GO AND SEARCH FOR THE MEANING OF WHAT IS MEANT BY MUSLIM .. THEN ULL KNOW WHO IS RIGHT AND WHO IS WRONG
RE:My freinds, Keep the BASICS in mind.
by sania on Mar 27, 2007 04:28 PM Permalink
if he is so worried about the injustice of the brahmins towards the lowercaste .. was he not worried about the differences of shiyas and sunnis... they fight like hell from before that is the known fact.. what abt that
RE:My freinds, Keep the BASICS in mind.
by sania on Mar 27, 2007 04:59 PM Permalink
JIHAD means organised effort/struggle to remove/kill the badness from SELF....SYSTYEM....SURROUNDING....FUNNY WHEN JIHADIS ARE BAD WHAT BADNESS CAN THEY REMOVE FROM THE SOCIETY.. FIRST LET THEM LEARN TO LIVE LIKE HUMAN BEINGS THEN GO FOR ALL THOSE RUBBISH THINGS WHICH THEY DO LIKE CRUEL ANIMALS
RE:My freinds, Keep the BASICS in mind.
by wada pav on Mar 28, 2007 11:28 PM Permalink
So u mean to say that 'MIGHT IS RIGHT' or 'JISKI LAATHI USKI BHAIS'?
So r we justified in invading and occupying smaller and weaker countries like sri-lanka, maldives, bhutan etc ?
why is there no facility in islam to settle differences through debates and discussions.
ur prophet used the sword every now and then so u guys got into a habit of doing the same?
did hindus , buddhist , jains , sikhs fight a single religious war among themselves ? did they not settle their differences peacefully through debates ? did they not 'live and let live?'
this tendency is absent in islam. it preaches a arrogant dictatorial system which does not believe in tolerance and co-existance.
AurangZeb%u2019s were the days of military rule. subjects and citizens wished to have the strongest and the wisest as their ruler. everybody had got a right to prove himself to be the best ruler. and only war between the different candidates could judge, who would be the best. no matter what relationship the candidates had between themselves.
We know that a state, a kingdom or a government is for basically giving peace and justice in a society. Peace can be hampered for a while to bring a larger justice....like a situation of war. and again little injustice can be justified to bring and keep the larger peace around.....like a situation of curfew in any area.
and the expansion of an empire is also not unjust. Mughal emperors did it like Ashoka and Alexander-the Greats conquered lands and made empires.
AurangZeb in particular might have been more intolerant towards the injustices of Brahmins on the lower castes.... and also towards the social/spiritual/physical evil acts/rituals that were prevalent in the temples of those days. he had got his own personality and methodology........ open to critism from all. but making this issue a tool of condeming all muslim kings and religion of Islam is a sheer foolishness.... and even dangerous for society as a whole.
when i say..... AurangZeb in particular might have been more intolerant towards the injustices.........
i mean.... it's natural to be INTOLERANT towards larger INJUSTICES..... in fact it's desired..... and so.... jehad is needed. JIHAD means organised effort/struggle to remove/kill the badness from SELF....SYSTYEM....SURROUNDING and if needed those MEN who comes on the way of that effort. GANDHI/BOSE/BHAGAT/TERESA/BABA-AMTE/MILITARY GENERALS.... all did or are doing JIHAD their own way.
We forget that AurangZeb took Zakat from Muslims as Jizya from NonMuslims.
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by Abdul Khan on Mar 27, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
Very Well said friend....Would like to add that people like the Author of this Article tends to air on provocations & are acting as REAL CATALYST to flare up the communal tensions throughout the Nation, which is heading on the Path of Development & Progress.Instead of focussing on the intrinsic strength of Unity they tend to believe in the adage of devide & rule policy... Come on shrug off such artciles...bring in some creative & helpful articles for the betterment of "WE INDIANS" lets Salute to India.......
RE:My freinds, Keep the BASICS in mind.
by raghvendra kumar on Mar 27, 2007 04:38 PM Permalink
Hurting religious sentiments of a particular community can be justified by giving these meaning less thing like killing badness etccccccccc As far as jehad is concerned it has become meaningless in present era & prhps most hatred word in modern society
RE:My freinds, leave this narrow thing called 'indianness'.
by sania on Mar 27, 2007 06:21 PM Permalink
i agree with u .. ther should be peace.. we all r one yaar... why think abt religion etc... we r what we r .. after a few yrs will not be in this world so why create enemity among human beings..
