RE:RE:THE GREAT MOGHUL EMPEROR - AURANGZEB
by biju nair on Mar 31, 2007 10:34 PM Permalink
Let us make Aurangazeb as father Of Indian Nation. Now I am convinced Aurangazeb is far more greate than Mohan Das Karamchand Gandhi who is our current father of nation.
RE:RE:THE GREAT MOGHUL EMPEROR - AURANGZEB
by biju nair on Mar 31, 2007 10:35 PM Permalink
Let us make Aurangazeb as father Of Indian Nation. Now I am convinced Aurangazeb is far more greate than Mohan Das Karamchand Gandhi who is our current father of nation.
RE:THE GREAT MOGHUL EMPEROR - AURANGZEB,
by biju nair on Mar 31, 2007 10:36 PM Permalink
Let us make Aurangazeb as father Of Indian Nation. Now I am convinced Aurangazeb is far more greate than Mohan Das Karamchand Gandhi who is our current father of nation.
RE:THE GREAT MOGHUL EMPEROR - AURANGZEB,
by pranat on Mar 31, 2007 11:11 PM Permalink
Of course, Aurangzeb shoudl be the father of the nation. He taught us so many imp things like killing , looting, taxing, converting etc etc.
Then Hindustan/Bharat/India will be an ideal society, just like Iraq.
Thanks Mike, you truely deserve a "Bharat Rata" for opening our eyes.
RE:THE GREAT MOGHUL EMPEROR - AURANGZEB
by biju nair on Mar 31, 2007 10:36 PM Permalink
Let us make Aurangazeb as father Of Indian Nation. Now I am convinced Aurangazeb is far more greate than Mohan Das Karamchand Gandhi who is our current father of nation.
RE:THE GREAT MOGHUL EMPEROR - AURANGZEB
by biju nair on Mar 31, 2007 10:46 PM Permalink
Let us make Aurangazeb as father Of Indian Nation. Now I am convinced Aurangazeb is far more greate than Mohan Das Karamchand Gandhi who is our current father of nation.
RE:THE GREAT MOGHUL EMPEROR - AURANGZEB
by biju nair on Mar 31, 2007 10:46 PM Permalink
Let us make Aurangazeb as father Of Indian Nation. Now I am convinced Aurangazeb is far more greate than Mohan Das Karamchand Gandhi who is our current father of nation.
1. Imprison your father, if he happens to be the king and rich. Dont kill him as that will not cause much pain. Let him cry looking at Taj Mahal.
2. Dont feed your father when he is in prison. Only one meal a day is good enough for the old man- useless fellow.
2.Grab throne at all costs.
3. Kill your elder brothers.They are useless as they want part of the family wealth. Dont stop there, go ahead and kill all other brothers as they might become a threat some day.
4.Tax the bloody non believers, they anyway have no right to exist. Convert as many kafirs as possible. If they dont agree, kill them. Islam says so.
5. Ban all music. Its un-islamic
6. Taught his childen not to fight battles for succession. They fought and killed each other. Baaaap see aur kya seekhenge!!
5. When old, make topi's ( haj caps) to prove that you are humble.
6. This worked as all muslims now believe that Aurangzeb is great pious and religious man.
What a role model!!!
Mike, you have picked a right role model!! Congratulations!
RE:Wow- What a role model- Aurangzeb!!! What can we learn from him?
by biju nair on Mar 31, 2007 10:47 PM Permalink
Let us make Aurangazeb as father Of Indian Nation. Now I am convinced Aurangazeb is far more greate than Mohan Das Karamchand Gandhi who is our current father of nation.
As per Hindu Culture Everything is God. We Muslim says Everthing is God's. The difference very vivid and Clear and loud.
1.An Athiest a Hindu. 2.A Brahman is a Hindu. 3.Lower Caste is a Hindu.
This Culture is cocktail.
But no equality, justice. You are Hindus. But you are not allowed to enter in the temple. You are not allowed to drink water from the well. This is Hindu Culture.
Culture can be changed and implement. The bad things from Hinduism to be banned. Government should banned. Like Aurangzeb. He banned Suttee, Devadasi, Temple and Ashram Brothels and many things which were not good for humanity.
RE:An Indian - Hinudism a culture - Every is God.
by biju nair on Mar 31, 2007 10:07 PM Permalink
Rafiuddin,
Your Quote"As per Hindu Culture Everything is God. We Muslim says Everthing is God's. The difference very vivid and Clear and loud"
As per Hindu beleif everything is God or everything contains God or Everything is originated from God.
As per Hindu beleif "Para Brahma" is the omni potent and omni present God. Brahma is the smallest particle of matter and Energy. Every thing in this Universe including matter and enery originated from God. So every matter and energy whether it is live or dead is part of God.
In Islam every thing belongs to Allah. including Iblis and Pig.And every thing is made for Muslims except pig and Iblis. Tiger, Lion, poisonous snakes and crocodiles are made for Muslims.
RE:An Indian - Hinudism a culture - Every is God.
by Secular Indian on Apr 01, 2007 07:38 AM Permalink
The above quote is from one of Dr. Zakir Nailk's infantile ramblings. Not his acolyte Rafiuddin. It seems it's very difficult for monotheist to understand the monistic tradition of Hinduism. It's difficult to understand that Hindus don't have the concept of Mr. God.
RE:An Indian - Hinudism a culture - Every is God.
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 31, 2007 09:33 PM Permalink
In our mosques Hindus are allowed. See in Hyderabad in Makkah Masjid, people are visiting. Dont go with propagannda. You go ask any Muslim brother and said that I am Hindu and I want to see your mosque. He will take you to the mosque and show you what is mosque and how we pray. Dont come into propagannda. I told you gonna got wrong book.
After Aurangzeb's death, his son Bahadur Shah I took the throne. The Mughal Empire, due both to Aurangzeb's overextension and cruelty and to Bahadur's weak military and leadership qualities, entered a long decline. Immediately after Bahadur Shah occupied the throne, the Maratha Empire (held at bay by Aurangzeb, albeit at a high human and monetary cost) consolidated and launched effective invasions of Mughal territory, seizing power from the weak emperor. Within 100 years of his death, the Mughal Emperor would simply be a puppet of the first, the Maratha Empire and then, the British East India Company, with little power beyond Delhi and ignored by most Indian princes.
Who are you ancestors, are you aware? You or your ancestors have converted by force (mostly), by lure or otherwise. Why should we should become your brothers and sisters, why not you come back to your roots, after kicking what had been forced to you or your ancestors. Why should I leave my originality, as I or my family never gone for such dirty conversion. Otherwise also belong to the original, whatever it was and is, right from the beginning and much before the Islam has erupted, and much and much before the Islamic terrorism (or your Jihad) had invaded our country. You might have forgotten your ancestors, your Islam might be teaching to pit and urinate to your ancestors but not mine. I am not Brahmin, and is without any conversion and worship to Almighty and not to Prophet. Otherwise also what Islam has given to the world, cruelty, illiteracy, arrogance, you people never treat your icons (Muslims) as Muslims like, great leader Maulana Abdul Kalam Azad, Poet Kazi Nazrul Islam, Sehani Maestro Ustad Bismillah Khan, our present President H.E. APJ Abdul Kalam, the list is endless, only because they are not fundamentalist, hey are true Indian, never come under the clutches of your dirty unscrupulous religious leaders. When some of your sisters, who are really the icon of this great like Sania Mirza, Shabana Azmi etc. are bashed by your Maulana, Mufti etc. you people never come for their rescue. Few among are anti-country terrorists, few support them through shelter, logistics and other help, rest do not utter and disclose their identity under the cover of religion, legitimize the polygamy under the cover of shariat or personal law.
Forget me or so called your horror RSS, VHP and just go to your own root, your ancestors, whose blessing you are and feel their agony, if you have some details, at least to your ancestors.
One of my known progressive Muslim family (wife and husband both are Muslim) who were quite worried about the spouse of their children, as they never wanted anyone from fundamentalist family. When their elder daughter could found her love, somewhere during her study, the family put their best efforts to materialized the relationship and the convinced the other family that they are not fundamentalist and ultimately their married and later on I came to know the mother of the boy was Sikh and father was Hindu. Now there is very happy (it is now more than 3 years) and they pray God everyday that their son also gets someone so that at least their next generation comes out from the clutches of vulnerable society.
My dear Mike, I do not know what compulsion you have to stick to such barbaric society and introspect yourself. If you embrace Christianity or Buddhism, it would salvage your and your coming generations.
It is ironical in your community that first you invade, then you create dispute, convert by force or by lure few fool, then use them like dirty towel. What a mockery?
RE:Mike Gandhi, are you insane?
by rafiuddin farooqui on Mar 31, 2007 08:08 PM Permalink
It is suits to your family and good for your generation. It is proper example to your family. Keep it up. Hundreds of Hindu Girls in UK Hindu and Sikh are converting to Islam. They know what is good for them and for their generation. More qualified more learned ladies. I welcome them.
RE:Mike Gandhi, are you insane?
by Mike Gandhi on Mar 31, 2007 10:34 PM Permalink
I am not fundamentalist. I am spreading the truth which Dr. Pandey and other historians showed to the world.
Dont be surprised but it is serious matter. If you have divorcee or vidhwa your sister, cousins or daughter we are ready to marry one of them and give her respectable, cheerful life with full of confidence
