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Freedom to protect
by mahesh s on Feb 12, 2007 11:30 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Some people feel that only they live in India. When bundhs and protest happen in there state, it is always against injustice.

But if it is in Karnataka, Karnataka people are called cruel, non-patriot etc etc...

People must realize that even people Karnataka do have rights and powers as citizens of Indian Union.

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RE:Freedom to protect
by Karan Thakur on Feb 12, 2007 12:11 PM  Permalink
we oppose bandh of any form and in any part of india, not only in karanataka....do you get the point now or you still need me to elaborate further.

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sorry to say CAN'T.
by SRINIVASA GOWDA on Feb 12, 2007 11:29 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Yes I entirely Agree with you. Let TN ask water from other state as well. Why it wants Cauvery only. I know all these years they were getting Cauvery Water as we were happy to share Cauvery Water with TN since we thought we had sufficient. But now we have drought for past three years and we are unable to share water anymore. So all ought to know the problems of karnataka also. regarding bandh yes kannadighaas will support as logically if anyone thinks then all will know that there is injustice meted out to Karnataka. Also calling for Bandh what we will loose will be made up later for he loss. bandh is called to show unitedly that kannadighas acceptance of injustice is indeed done. So what we loose as public money we will worry. Its not the headache of others. regarding affecting the economy sorry sometimes u need to pay for the wrong and centre as well as tribunal has done injustice. but need not worry as one day revenue from karnataka is big i know but assure all that we will give it back as well. But logically I also have right to question those who say that Economy is affected by Karnataka's Bandh. tell me when we contribute and others contribute less then did anytime Karnataka Ask for the reason for less contribution to economy from other states? If not then u all dont have right to question Karnataka about her harm to economy. Still i assure all that it wont hurt in a long running. we will make up for the loss. Now that water is not sufficiently there then no question of sharing logically also arises. So forget aboput water for the present situation. If spring is good this season then we will share that too after sufficient supply to our farmers and for drinking in Karnataka. right guys? jai Cauvery Maathe, Jai karnataka Maathe, Jai Hind.

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RE:sorry to say CAN'T.
by commanman on Feb 12, 2007 11:44 AM  Permalink
You lack the knowledge of geographical structure of South India and entire Cauvery issue. First try to understand and comment.

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RE:RE:sorry to say CAN'T.
by raj on Feb 12, 2007 11:49 AM  Permalink
Commanman ,going by your early comments, Mr.Srinivas Gowda has better knowledge in both the subjects what you have mentioned, probable its time for you to understand the whole issue first.

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RE:RE:sorry to say CAN'T.
by SRINIVASA GOWDA on Feb 12, 2007 11:55 AM  Permalink
HAHAHAHA HEY GUY THATS Y I ALSO QUOTED MY TEACHER'S FAMOUS SAYING. WHERE THERE IS A WILL THERE IS A WAY. U WONT DARE TO CHALLENGE THIS SAYING OF MY TEACHER. RIGHT GUY. SO NOW U THINK OF UR OWN WORDS. PROBABLY TRAPPED TO BACKTRACK. HEAR TO WHAT UR HEART SAYS AND NOT MIND. MIND GETS CORRUPTED NOT HEART. RIGHT? JAI VAUVERY MAATHE, JAI KARNATAKA, JAI HIND.

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RE:RE:RE:sorry to say CAN'T.
by tk on Feb 12, 2007 01:22 PM  Permalink
Don't talk like entire Cauvery is KArnataka's property.
Know the fact that Cauvery is running in 4 states, so all these states should share the water even in scarcity time, and its their right, don't try to enjoy 100% benifit from Cauvery.

IF you want to claim 100% benifit, then don't open your Dams in the time of flood and send the Cauvery towards north because you have will as your #$%#$% teacher's famous saying?.

Think about this scenario, The Cauvery is originated in Coorge, And some of those people(Kodugu) are asking for seperate statehood, may be in future if they get the seperate state, and if they say Cauvery is ours and not KArnataka property, then you have no difference between TN and KAR.

So, think in broad perspective, and this a natural resource, share it according to fair and balanced verdict of Expert Cauvery Tribunal.

Don't just go behind you politicians like scape got(bakkra). They are unnecessarily politicing this issue for there survival.

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RE:RE:RE:RE:sorry to say CAN'T.
by shreyas sudarshan on Feb 12, 2007 05:10 PM  Permalink
learn the facts an then talk........do u know the meaning of fair?......60% of the river flows in karnataka yet we get only 20% of water.where as in TN it covers only 30% and u r getting 60% of water......who is getting benifit?u r getting 200% water.....learn the facts and then talk stupid

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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:sorry to say CAN'T.
by Sweet on Feb 12, 2007 07:14 PM  Permalink
60% of river is in Karnataka??? I strongly feel it is incorrect. Am from north but I saw in the map that it starts somewhere in the south of karnataka and reaches TN very soon and goes a long way in TN reaching parts of Kerala as well before flowing to Bay of Bengal.

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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:sorry to say CAN'T.
by tk on Feb 12, 2007 05:50 PM  Permalink
Why you didn't submit these facts in front of tribunal?, there were 500 sittings happened in tribunal over past 16 years, why you didn't go there and told about the facts?.

You should have went instead of Nariman. Is Nariman a dumbo?

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karnataka think tamilnadi is drainage
by bharath on Feb 12, 2007 11:27 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

y u all kannada leave cauvery to tn,if you are putting your tails to other house,u have to share and compromise,cauvery is only 300kmtr only in karnataka,another 450 kmtr in tn.so think in heavy rains comes,tn people block the water u all people in water and crying.

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RE:karnataka think tamilnadi is drainage
by Sunil on Feb 12, 2007 11:32 AM  Permalink
We are well planned for those sitation,(having huge pool of Software Engineer proving solution to thru out world) we will give to Andhra pardesh and Kerala in turn Kerala will throw allow the water in Arabian sea. Kerala will do becoz lots of Malyalee are in Karnataka. We dont want to give to TN in those days :-).

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RE:karnataka think tamilnadi is drainage
by SRINIVASA GOWDA on Feb 12, 2007 11:35 AM  Permalink
Stop this illogical thinking. we know what to do in crisis time of flood/s. We can construct anothe ten dams along river cauvery's length. Ok. still not enough we are also capable of diverting it to north Karnataka. Where there is a will there is a way. we never treat anyone as drainage guys but if u think so then ur mentality is wrong. if ur say is correct then whole of India's people wouldnt have been in Bengaluru. right? But just think without water what will be ur situation. Now u have water to drink atleast and if u urseklf block water from karnatakla then u only will suffer we will anyways gain without much effort. Right Bharath. Jai Cauvery Maathe, Jai karnataka, Jai Hind.

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RE:karnataka think tamilnadi is drainage
by on Feb 12, 2007 11:41 AM  Permalink
Mr. Bharath,
You think you know all the facts, if you want us to give you so much of cauvery water, you are forgetting the fact that there are thousands of Tamilians living in Karnatka/Bangalore, they all have abandonded there mother land and bought properties in Bangalore. They all want only Caurvery water, if you guys are so patriotic and think we are causing you trouble , get out of karnataka live on your own and prove and see what happens how many families will be with out food , how many will be unemployed. 90% of street vendors, workers, IT professionals want Bangalore/Karnataka to feed them and there families back home and want to drink Cauvery water but same folk cannot see the injustice. All Tamilians are forgetting the what ever extra land you folks are cultivating is against the initial agreements and it is against the law. This verdict is purely political, just because Central government is surviving on support of DMK, this has happened. Get the facts first, remember you guys need us more than we need you and above all remember we are Indians and we need to live together. Fight for justice not for factionalism. It is not a new thing that Tamilnadu supports factionalism that is why that is only state which did not recoginse Hindi.

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RE:RE:karnataka think tamilnadi is drainage
by nanda kumar on Feb 12, 2007 02:27 PM  Permalink
Dude no one has right to ask someone to get out of a state. Remember all people in karnataka and TN came from Africa only once. R u ready to go back to Africa !!!!!

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RE:RE:RE:karnataka think tamilnadi is drainage
by shreyas sudarshan on Feb 12, 2007 05:16 PM  Permalink
stupid thinking and suggestion

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RE:RE:RE:karnataka think tamilnadi is drainage
by Sweet on Feb 12, 2007 07:22 PM  Permalink
U bet Mr. Nanda, let the kannada people go to Africa first and show, Then Tamils will go to their own land as well.... ha ha ha

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RE:karnataka think tamilnadi is drainage
by mahesh s on Feb 12, 2007 11:32 AM  Permalink
Good Idea!

That is what Karnataka govt has planned by building dams at TN borders like in Mekedaatu etc

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freedom of expression!
by kaja on Feb 12, 2007 11:20 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

bandh can be considerd as a freedom of expression untill it is held peacefully..but im not sure how far it would go against a tribunal order or a supreme court order!
in the recent past we saw delhi traders protesting against a SC order .. with ref to the sealing drive..
but infact they were slamed by SC ... SC came up with an historical statement ..that..No one can seek releaf from SC or govt by threatening it...same is happ in karnataka now...SC is not going to change its verdict simply bcos some ppl protest against it... but it is yet to be seen .. what SC will do if some one or a state does not obey its orders.

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RE:freedom of expression!
by Sunil on Feb 12, 2007 11:27 AM  Permalink
Yes you are correct.. but how long our farmers will keep themselves without food and water, this is not only emotionaly attached stuff, is related our day to day life. We educated people of karnataka will not let the tribunal to become killer , will make them to rethink on the verdict which is against of Kannadighas and pro Tamilnadu.

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RE:RE:freedom of expression!
by commanman on Feb 12, 2007 11:29 AM  Permalink
This is how you people behave in past, for that SM Krishna got a big shameful slap from SC and released the water.

I guesss this will happen this time too...

We know how to get the water....

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RE:RE:RE:freedom of expression!
by raj on Feb 12, 2007 11:38 AM  Permalink
If you know, go and get it. You havent got water from us, untill it was surplus to us.
Even now, Come what may , YOu will not get water, unless it is surplus for us.
It is not "TAMIL MOVIE" dude.

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RE:RE:RE:RE:freedom of expression!
by tk on Feb 12, 2007 01:11 PM  Permalink
Don't talk without knowing thie fact and past history. In 2000-2001, there were huge scarcity of water in Cauvery, both the states affected like anything.

TN govt filed a petition against KAR Govt to SC for implementing the interim verdict of tribunal. And SC gave a verdict in favour of TN. But the SM Krishna Govt, not implemented the SC verdict,

Then TN went to SC again, for that SC gave a big slap to SM Krishna for not implementing the verdict, and SM Krishna apologized for the same. Then he oppened the Kabini and KSR, finally we got the water in the time of scarcity.

This is the history. First learn those and post the comment here.

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RE:RE:RE:freedom of expression!
by SRINIVASA GOWDA on Feb 12, 2007 11:42 AM  Permalink
try ur best buddy that time tribunal order was not out. now that it is out we know how to turn it aside and this time your own people in karnataka are also support kannadighas in the bandh. now we will see how u will take water. if u have guts do it buddy. dont dare to provoke kannadighas. just a order has bought a turmaoil now the imposition of that order will make us loose our patience. so now itself we are teaching u all what is awaiting in future if order is going to be imposed which in all probability will be rejected by the centre itself. Jai Cauvery maathe, Jai Karnataka, Jai Hind

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RE:RE:RE:RE:freedom of expression!
by tk on Feb 12, 2007 01:28 PM  Permalink
Ok, do whatever you want...... Just for interim verdict itself we could managed to get water.

This is tangleble verdict given by expert commitee and it is been accepted by your great lawyer Mr. Nariman and some of Kannada writers & association also accepted the verdict.

Few unofficial news comming that "HDK too is ok with the verdict but he is little bit sceptical about congress as they wanted to become to power by using this issue"

This is nothing for us....

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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:freedom of expression!
by raj on Feb 12, 2007 05:35 PM  Permalink
Straight out from tamil movie. Mr.Karunanidhi and Jayalalitha are romancing around the trees by this news..

This is nothing for us....Tamils..amazing comedians..

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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:freedom of expression!
by raj on Feb 13, 2007 01:59 PM  Permalink
To Sweet: I give it a damn, whether u sound harsh or not,its not gonna affect me. Neither iam not interested in knowing how Tamil/Kannada industry is doing , Any industry will survive if there is a need for what they produce.
I luv the way you tamils react/or respond for any situation, i cant refrain from giving my comments as CineComedians, i feel everything you do or thing is fictious and comical.

Relax dude..

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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:freedom of expression!
by Sweet on Feb 12, 2007 07:26 PM  Permalink
To Mr. Raj below: I have seen tamil movies in USA and I heard it goes to Japan, Saudi and UK, singapore and Malaysia in a big way. May I know what is the reachability for Kannada movies??? I would be happy if a movie runs in Bangalore itself. (which was the reason why the bankrupt Kannada movie industry banned non-kannada movies recently in bangalore and caused so much hardship to northindians) In a nutshell, Kannada mobies sux man, am sorry if it sounds a bit harsh but thats the fact.

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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:freedom of expression!
by Sweet on Feb 12, 2007 07:27 PM  Permalink
To Mr. Raj: I have seen tamil movies in USA and I heard it goes to Japan, Saudi and UK, singapore and Malaysia in a big way. May I know what is the reachability for Kannada movies??? I would be happy if a movie runs in Bangalore itself. (which was the reason why the bankrupt Kannada movie industry banned non-kannada movies recently in bangalore and caused so much hardship to northindians) In a nutshell, Kannada movies sux man, am sorry if it sounds a bit harsh but thats the fact.


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Triggering the fire
by Rajagopalan v on Feb 12, 2007 11:20 AM  Permalink 

I feel this forum is indirectly triggering the fire by creating an enviroment to agitate people's sensitivity

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Kannadighas thinking...
by SRINIVASA GOWDA on Feb 12, 2007 11:15 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

let me remind all that farmers of Karnataka are kannadighas as well. So we will stand by our people first then the rest of other issues. So please dont get interfeared btw two families fight. We and TN and like family members and every family will have a problem. Even same family members wont ask for help from other member when they themselves are in need of help. So TN should also have thought the same way. Anyways, we are not disturbed by that. So logic states that better dont ask and try someother means. In the same way this Cauvery Water issue also is. For CAUVERY Kannadighas are emotionally attached. So we cant tolerate anyone forcing us to share water with them. thats the end. even what one was getting with also get stopped. So we will share only when we have sufficient Cauvery water, else sorry. Jai Cauvery Maathe, Jai Karnataka, Jai Hind

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Now think Logically
by SRINIVASA GOWDA on Feb 12, 2007 11:11 AM  Permalink 

How much to tell u all guys? hey buddies, we will share if we have sufficient water else where does the question of sharing arises. you urself wont give a rupee for a beggar even if u r carring the coins as well more than 100rs. I am correct right? But we kannadighas are not like that. If we have sufficient then we will surely share else we are also hurt to say we cant help at the present moment but surely in future only if situation improves. OK guys enough of this. I have explained the ABCDE..... of the problem and logic thinking of Kannadighas. So no more question ought to be asked or comments against karnataka required. Right? Jai Cauvery Maathe, Jai Karnataka, Jai Hind.

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India must learn from Kashmir, Assam, Manipur, Punjab etc
by mahesh s on Feb 12, 2007 11:04 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Partiality and lobbing from other state will make Karnataka another Assam.

Being member of Union of Indian, Karnataka people have right to protest against injustice.

Central govt. instead of worrying more about Hindi board in railway stations and highways, must come up with a National Water Policy.

Even after 60 years of independence, India does not have a single national water policy,

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RE:India must learn from Kashmir, Assam, Manipur, Punjab etc
by kaja on Feb 12, 2007 11:24 AM  Permalink
u r right

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RE:India must learn from Kashmir, Assam, Manipur, Punjab etc
by Karan Thakur on Feb 12, 2007 12:13 PM  Permalink
But you have no RIGHT to trouble common people/citizens. Got it?

Find some better ways to protest.

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A Educated Bandh In Karanataka
by roopesh b on Feb 12, 2007 11:02 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I read all opposite and supportful blogs here.
But in Karnataka, we people doing bandh without buring vehicles, or any our(Karnataka) or others property. Just we shows our unity against the verdict given by the one sided peoples. We never asked any politicians support for this because they are controled by us, without people there is no politician OK. If u people who have meaningful mind(Dont support any side) they knows which is right decision. We have 1 water resourse for our people to live at Kaveri river across people. We never asked Tamilnadu river water yar. We know river is national proprty, If u knows that(If u supporting Tamilnadu) then u ask Ganga, Bramhputa river water.(Now it is possible the river to turn any where, we have technology to divert river). Bandh is for ony for showing integrity of people, we have sufficiant people here to work in IT, BT, we never asked u to come here. If ours is there in Tamilnadu, we welcome those to back to Karnataka, but we never gives u water. If times comes "WE GIVES BLOOD, NOT THE KAVERI WATER". Todays Bandh shows u same.

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RE:A Educated Bandh In Karanataka
by SRINIVASA GOWDA on Feb 12, 2007 11:29 AM  Permalink
Yes I entirely Agree with you. Let TN ask water from other state as well. Why it wants Cauvery only. I know all these years they were getting Cauvery Water as we were happy to share Cauvery Water with TN since we thought we had sufficient. But now we have drought for past three years and we are unable to share water anymore. So all ought to know the problems of karnataka also. regarding bandh yes kannadighaas will support as logically if anyone thinks then all will know that there is injustice meted out to Karnataka. Also calling for Bandh what we will loose will be made up later for he loss. bandh is called to show unitedly that kannadighas acceptance of injustice is indeed done. So what we loose as public money we will worry. Its not the headache of others. regarding affecting the economy sorry sometimes u need to pay for the wrong and centre as well as tribunal has done injustice. but need not worry as one day revenue from karnataka is big i know but assure all that we will give it back as well. But logically I also have right to question those who say that Economy is affected by Karnataka's Bandh. tell me when we contribute and others contribute less then did anytime Karnataka Ask for the reason for less contribution to economy from other states? If not then u all dont have right to question Karnataka about her harm to economy. Still i assure all that it wont hurt in a long running. we will make up for the loss. Now that water is not sufficiently there then no question of sharing logically also arises. So forget aboput water for the present situation. If spring is good this season then we will share that too after sufficient supply to our farmers and for drinking in Karnataka. right guys? jai Cauvery Maathe, Jai karnataka Maathe, Jai Hind.

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dont spoil your image
by bharath on Feb 12, 2007 10:53 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

karnataka fight with andhra in almatti,with maharastra belgaum issue,in tamilnadu and kerala pondicherry cauvery issue,dear karnataka people please learn lot form gujaratis,u go and see each and every indian is safely living and working.ive and let live.india salutes gujarat people.

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RE:dont spoil your image
by kaja on Feb 12, 2007 10:59 AM  Permalink
in GUJRAT people are living safe it seems!...OK

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RE:dont spoil your image
by raj on Feb 12, 2007 11:29 AM  Permalink
Dear Bharath,

Mr.Modi has earned internation accloades for what is called as state sponsord butchering of minority community.

Just answer, why was your CM denied visa for USA? You will get the answers for your perception of Gujarat

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RE:RE:dont spoil your image
by kaja on Feb 12, 2007 11:22 AM  Permalink
u r using some unwanted abbrevations here...

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RE:dont spoil your image
by Sunil on Feb 12, 2007 11:06 AM  Permalink
Hello Guju , UN also condemned the killing done by gujrati against minorites, Gujratis destroyed alost 15 crores of minorites infrastructure that is a heavy loss for INDIA and people of India. That time where were you ? again you elected same Hitler for you cheif minister.. because of his wrong doeir he was rejected in US embassy.
the Human rights groups rough estimated that nearly 2000 muslims killed by GUJRATIS .. Its a shame for you..
like this Never Happened in Karnataka.
How can you asking people to "salutes to gujarat people ".. its looks very funny

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