Actually Hindus are the glue that hold together India today. They are secular, peace-loving and tolerant. Weak Hindus will lead to a weak India and eventually disintegration of the country. Just look around ... Pakistan, Bangladesh, Kashmir .. what happened where Hindus became less... all we have now is intolerance, poor human rights records and decimation of minorities.
So it is important that Hindus be strengthened so that the country is strengthened.
Dear Mr. Rajeev, It is only a matter of time, before the Colossus wakes up. When hatred against Hinduism is on the rise, more is the chances of an intense awakening of Hindus. In a way, I would say, the present situation is the right prescription for a promising future for the punch bag of the secularists, that is Sanathana Dharma. Thank you for a good article. With Prayers, Dr.P.E.S.Kartha kartha_pes@yahoo.com; http://kartha-pes.sulekha.com)
RE:Destroy Hinduism and you are destroying India.
by on Feb 08, 2007 07:33 PM Permalink
Great hard hitting article. You say boldly the truth what the mainstream media squelch. Keep it up.
RE:Destroy Hinduism and you are destroying India.
by mandar on Feb 10, 2007 02:43 PM Permalink
Dr Kartha,
What is this nonsense you are writing. Do you know the meaning of Hinduism. Is Hinduism about spreading hatred about others. OR is Hinduism the Brahminism ? Is your "shop of Doctor" closed so you are doing all this stupid things. Better concentrate on your profession if any patients are coming to you. As this Nation hasaid a lot of money to make a doctor out of a Donkey like you.
These are the games played since centuries by Bhats (meaning Brahmins). This hate campaign against everyone, one by one, assures them their superiority.
In fact this species of Human being, named Bhatji's, have created and perpetuated the caste system and used Hindu religion for their benefit and to maintain their superiority. They play it very perfectly and in the best possible cunning ways.
They have problems with BC's & OBC's who form more than 75% of Indian population. As they think that BC's & OBC's are lowly people. Previously they could not tolerate their presence anywhere except the land alloted to them at far end of the villages or towns, now they can not tolerate them in educational institutions or at the places of jobs.
They have problems with Muslims who form 15% of Indian population.When they wanted to demolish a mosque, they united all Hindu%u2019s including BC%u2019s & OBC%u2019s against Muslims in the name of Ram. It is very interesting to note that people who died or those who took beatings in Kar Seva were not these Bhats but mostly OBC%u2019s.
They have problem with Christians. They, from their superior brains, have invented that Christians are converting Hindus into Christianity. They supported burning alive a man named Graham Staines with his sons. They openly support raping the nuns.
These 3% Bhataji's want to continue their monopoly in all sectors whether it is education, banking, software, media, Private companies & whatever that is premier except for the dirty jobs that are being carried out by BC%u2019s & OBC%u2019s, generations after generations.
In short, they are all the time spreading false propoganda & rumours, through their organisations like RSS, VHP & Bajrang Dal and the writers like the one who has written this. This ensures that 95% of the Indian population keep on fighting among themselves on such nonsense issues like religion & caste while they keep on growing powerful economically & otherwise.
RE:The Bhataji's games
by Wisdom Wisdom on Feb 08, 2007 08:15 PM Permalink
From a wise man in India:
"There is nothing wrong with Brahminism. People who accuse Brahminism have not read Adi Shankara. He clearly says Jathi, Nethi, Kula, Gotra durakam. Caste, religion%u2014all this you have to transcend; it is not what you are. Whatever caste a person is, the wise will always be respected%u2014Vidhwan sarvatra pujith. Of course there has been oppression of Dalits [but] there has been oppression in many countries and many cultures. Christians had the Spanish Inquisition, [they%u2019ve] been against science, [but] you can%u2019t say that Christianity is bad.
In the Brahminical text it is written that the sudhra is the feet, but it also says that the feet should be worshipped. No part of the body is considered low in the Vedic literature. Throwing [out] all Brahminical wisdom is foolishness.
I think we are blowing out of proportion the Dalit issues. Not all Brahmins have always suppressed Dalits. Even Ambedkar%u2019s mentor was a Brahmin. Basavanna, Adi Shankara, Ramanujacharya%u2014[all] worked for Dalits."
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by Shadow on Feb 08, 2007 11:11 PM Permalink
lets not forget pranav, burning of witches, portugues oppression of goans brahmisn, crusades by christians, christian crimes against jews (world war II), christians in US and racism, pedophile claims of the catholic church, conversion by coercion, lies, and lure, the list will probably go endless, I guess you are getting the point!.
RE:RE:RE:RE:The Bhataji's games
by Muralidharan Dhanakoti on Feb 09, 2007 02:41 AM Permalink
Madness. Pure madness. Why is it important what religion somebody belongs to or what he believes in. All these examples you are providing are they local to that religion alone? hasn't the same kind of crimes committed by Hindus?.
What racism in US are you referring to, is it more insidious than the racism we have in India perpetuated by different shades of brown?. May be you have never wondered why all Bollywood personalities are light skinned while the most of the country is brown and black. May be you have forgotten the fact that many ashrams in south India made news recently because they were more of brothels than places of enlightenment. May be you were too pious to take note of the fact that the great spiritual guide of Hindus (whatever acharya) was recently arrested on murder charges.
By speaking this way you are merely reinforcing the stereotypical Indian living in denial. Wake up, look around and observe and then form conclusions do not shout in the mob.
Indians are known to be liberal and that too for somebody living in SFO the most liberal place in US its preposterous to even think about hate but Rajeev has shown us that you can not only turn your back on your tolerant religion (Hinduism) and liberal society (SFO), but you can also pledge earnestness while indulging in an insidious hate propaganda.
For every villifying claim that can be laid out against Islam there is an equally damning hindu custom sati, child marriage, widow abuse, caste system, Babri Masjid destruction, Gujarat massacre, Bengal riots. Righteous Hindus who condem all these acts might say that its not every Hindu but an insane few ... right but the same holds good for Muslims Mr.Imaan here who has exmplified tolerance is an example and ask your heart and it will remind you many muslims you have come across who are better human beings than your mantra chanting RSS Hindu friends.
Every major organized belief systems has had hatred and intolerance as its hallmark and Islam and Hinduism are no exceptions. So pointing fingers at any one of these systems and using the current affairs as an evidence is a pure manipulation of facts. And Rajeev is good at it because towards the end of the article he drops the Narendera Modi bombshell, Rajeev you are kidding right, Mr.Modi is a living example of everything that goes against the spirit of hinduism just because he is gleaning a few pennies does not make him a saint.
Also, your article and your blog tries to paint a false picture that Hindus were those holy saints who were manipulated and ruled by Persian invaders first and then by the Brits. This is a wrong and courageless conviction for it was Hindus who brought destruction upon themselves because 500 years ago it was so important that a member of a lower caste cannot enter your local temple while its not that pertinent if your country is under foreign rule. Elitism (read casteism) brought out by Hindu customs crushed the common man's spirit and pushed the masses into dark and ignorant centuries thereby paving an easy way for foreign conquests. So leave your morbid pay-back time idea because our folks din't fight then, they meekly surrendered and along with their wretched spirit they took away our sense of self-respect too which manifests itself in today's (read, 'hey, look I am special because I work in a call center and speak English and dress western') youth.
Lastly, it is commonplace for a lot of Hindus living in America to lean heavily on Hinduism fundamentalism for identity and pride because we are in the minority here. If you are so proud why don't you go back to your Trivandrum and work for the good of the poor and your religion in your country. Pure hipocrisy and madness.
And, oh, before anybody screams 'you pakistani' let me tell you I am as Hindu as it can get, but I choose not to lament on the long-last past and let myself filled with hate towards people who at that time were stronger and more organized than my forefathers.
No educated and sensible Muslim intends to harm Hindus and likewise for the Hindus. I am sure you guys are basically good people too, but you are over reacting to the threat of religious extremism cleverly propagated by cronies. By over reacting you are neatly playing into the hands of those who use religion to rake up chaos as a means to obtain power. This is their propaganda and they use your sincere love for your religion and country for their crooked means. The more you spread this hate, more insecure and volatile the Indian Muslims become because they live amongst a sprawling Hindu population which hates them and thats asking for trouble.
Sure, a lot of blood-letting has happened in the name of Islam recently, but if you look at who is behind this you will see that it is not the everyday man, but its some crook who forces people to do crazy things in the name of religion for his own sake and ignorant and poor people end up being entraped. Ignorance is the root cause of all these problems in India as well as in the middle east. For what its worth, in the spirit of a true Hindu try to do something to address this problem and refrain from spreading hate because it will only hasten everybody's demise.
IMHO, we (all Indians Sikh, Hindu, Muslim, and Christians) should all be proud of the diversity found in the social fabric of our country and embrace it in its current form rather than pining for that glorious and idealized past which will never come back.
RE:RE:RE:Hate Speech
by Ibrahim Sheik on Feb 08, 2007 11:54 AM Permalink
Dear Brother Muralidharan, I think you are the only man in the crowd to understand the reality. Many thanks for your words..
RE:RE:RE:Hate Speech
by Sirish R on Feb 10, 2007 05:36 AM Permalink
educated muslims and educated hindus.. you thought you are talking pretty sane!!!.. but sure not dude!!!.. things you only believe everything is propaganda!! whatever people hear happening the religious extremism is a propaganda!!.. what happened all this 1400 years propaganda!!!.. and ppl are over reaacting alot!!!.. but when you talk abt gujrat genocide!!!when you talk abt babri masjid they are real!!!.. wat happens in iraq and other middle east is a propaganda!!! what we hear and read the news of daily slaughter and bombs where not less than 100 people die that's again propaganda!!!.. wel said mate!!! lets all close our eyes raise our hands above and praise the Lord!!!!.. people like you are really really funny!!!.. what others see it just becomes propaganda by cronies!!!!
RE:RE:RE:Hate Speech
by on Feb 08, 2007 01:26 PM Permalink
Your slogans ("all Indians are my brothers and sisters") are very nice, but bear no relation to reality. This is exactly what Kashmir's Hindus used to say until the Muslims started exterminating them with the slogan "Hindus must leave Kashmir, but leave your women behind". Wake up and smell the coffee.
While you are worried about the idealized past, the Muslims have a very clear picture about your future: one in which everybody on earth is a Muslim. They are working hard to make this happen. Similarly, Christians are working hard to make everybody on earth a Christian. If you are happy to be converted by force or coercion, that's your choice. If others protest, that's their choice, which you have to accept. The blood-letting is happening in the name of Islam everywhere that it exists: scholars talk about "the bloody borders of Islam". Individual Muslims are often nice and good people, but their mob mentality breeds violence at the drop of a hat. The cry "Islam is in danger" causes them to become mindless fanatics.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Hate Speech
by mandar on Feb 08, 2007 04:12 PM Permalink
This theory of conversion is just a humbug nicely propogated by the nonsense organisations like RSS, VHP & Bajrang Dal. If that was the case, Muslims ruled India for 700 years, so by then everyone here should have beem muslims. Nor is any missionary here up to converting others. This is just a ploy by Brahmins to engage the lower castes into the unnecessary fights in the name of religion and they enjoy the real power in terms of economical development, educational, etc.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Hate Speech
by brother muralidharan on Feb 08, 2007 09:22 PM Permalink
You must be a clone of 'Prachi' who made the exact same nonsense assertion. 'Prachi' said Mughals ruled India for 700 years, you say Muslims ruled India for 700 years. In fact, Muslims ruled some parts of India between 1100 and 1700. They were constantly harassed by Hindus fighting back, or else they would definitely have converted all Hindus in India.
This bullshit about Brahmins shows that you are either a Church representative, because the Church is very concerned about Brahmins. Or else you might be Harsh Mander, who made up some colorful stories about Gujarat.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Hate Speech
by Shameer on Feb 08, 2007 02:44 PM Permalink
Show us some instances from Muslims were they converted others by FORCE (contemperory instances)...dont bluff ...every one has the right to spread their religion...one dont need to feel inferior. In its true sprit(take out castizm and all) Hindu religion can stand up to any religion in the world.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Hate Speech
by brother muralidharan on Feb 08, 2007 09:19 PM Permalink
Shameer, a) Bangladesh, b) Pakistan. Otherwise how did the population of Hindus in these countries go from 20% to nothing in a few years? Don't make me laugh and say all these Hindus suddenly saw how wonderful Islam was and converted joyfully. No, their women were kidnapped, raped and forced into marriage with Muslims, their property was taken away by force, and they were given a choice: die, convert, or run away. Most of them chose to other convert or run away.
You are a riot with your constant demands for information. Just read a newspaper or two now and then, and not just Arab propaganda.
RE:RE:RE:Hate Speech
by mks on Feb 11, 2007 12:36 PM Permalink
What Education are talking about..people who commited 9/11 where highly educated...so was the person who killed daniel pearl...
You might say these people are in minority..but dude they are sufficient enogh to distroy modern world...
its not the question of spreading hatred its about being aware of the people areound...
You so called liberals never for get mentioning gujrat riots,babari masjid demolition,castes etc.. but you always tend to forget so called history of islamic brutalities...go and ask pandits ,bangaladeshi hindus ,pakistani hindus etc..
Common muslims are great...they don't hate hindus and other religions followers..don't give crap dude ..come out of your dream world...
RE:Hate Speech
by mks on Feb 11, 2007 01:10 PM Permalink
Mr Modi did what bangladeshi ,pakistani muslim rulers do to hindus...
You so called hindus are aplogitic about it so i would suggest you to go and live in these places...
I am sure you will get converted(which i think you will do easily looking at your views in this forum) or get killed!!.Hindus are or were liberals..and thats the reason they got slaughtered everywhere...
However that dosn't bother liberals like you who keeping preaching from US.
And also why RSS basing all the time...many muslim fundamentlist orgs (bigger than RSS)are there too spreading hatred...why don't go and speak against them....
RE:Hate Speech
by Mi lor on Feb 08, 2007 09:12 AM Permalink
Listen Buddy,This is an article to discuss the mentality of the muslims who as you know are specialize in spreading Jehadi culture by sword. Try to call spade a spade instead of imagining some excuses. Dont be so callous. A time will come when the Hindus will be extinct species because of apologetic people for muslims like you.
RE:RE:Hate Speech
by Vijay B on Feb 08, 2007 09:51 AM Permalink
WOW! That was a befitting reply to Muralidharan! Murali, if you keep up such a "wreck the best and suck up to the rest" you'll be damned one day, and that day you'll not even have the strength to repent. Thanks.
Rajiv, Keep it up. You have lot of Lallus in your fan base. No matter what you write, Lallus keep praising it. Even a school kid with little common-sense can see the illogic in your article, which starts with the terrible war in Iraq and ends up with ports in Kerala .
People should read history before entering any country. It was the same Iraq that saw the grave of the then super-power Persian empire at the hands of Holy Companions of the Holy Prophet. It was the same Iraq that resulted in the mass acceptance of Islam by Halagu khan and his progeny, which then rose to become the greatest power of middle ages, the Ottoman Empire. It was the same Iraq that kicked the arrogrant ass of Winston Churchill.
RE:RE:Lot of lallus here.
by Maz on Feb 08, 2007 07:33 PM Permalink
Hazrat Ali(May Allah be pleased with him) was not killed at Karbala. He was killed in Kufa by an assasin sent by khajirites, apostates during the times of Holy companions. Karbala saw the matyrdom of Hazrat Hussain(May Allah be pleased with him), the chief of Martyrs and the chief of the young in the paradise.
First brush up your history knowledge and then write here.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Lot of lallus here.
by Maz on Feb 08, 2007 10:53 PM Permalink
I don't know what it is if it is not history. When you stand corrected, you try to give it a damn. Wow, what an approach. The point with self proclaimed atheists is that they first try to sit on a high horse of morality built upon some flaky logic and when they are brought down from that high horse, they tend to give a damn.
I did not make your point at all. I presented a detail of Muslim History. There was no Shia-Sunni massacres after Imam Hussein's death. There was no civil war infact. So here you go, you stand corrected again. Moreover so that you understand better, Imam Hussein was not shiite nor was his progeny.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Lot of lallus here.
by Maz on Feb 10, 2007 05:31 AM Permalink
John, If you don't care then why are you taking the pains of writing here. Just buzz off. You will do everyone a favor.
One thing I try to do is not brag after writing complete lies and later claim -- "I don't care about the details".
The division happened long before Imam Hussein was killed and FYI you stand corrected again. It was created by Abdullah ibn Saba and his conspirators, but I think it will be too much detail for you, the one who constantly writes concocted facts.
If two groups keep fighting how does it become a shame on Islam? If two folks in a household keep fighting, then does it become shameful on the father. Apply some thought before you write again. So if Catholics and protestants kill each other as they have done in Northern Ireland, then is it a shame on Christianity?
Islam is the greatest unifying force. History is testimony to it. It unified the ever fighting tribes and low lives into a vibrant and cohesive unit, the likes of which the world never saw before, nor will it see again. Not only there was no difference between Arabs, but the difference between Arabs and non-Arabs was eradicated. the lives of non-Arab companions of Holy Prophet(PBUH) are good examples. Bilal, Suhaib-Ar-rumi, Salman-Al fari(May Allah be pleased with all of them).
What sunnis think about Shiites and what shiites think about sunnis is out of your league, but one thing is for sure, you pretend to be an atheist, but you belong the fan club of pat robertson and likes. Well it gives a nice cover to people like you to stand behind the veil of atheism and attack Islam.. faithfreedom.org is one such site. It is run by christian missionaries.
RE:RE:Lot of lallus here.
by Shameer on Feb 08, 2007 02:50 PM Permalink
John.....JOKE....'MUSLIMS massacred Ali in Karbala'.....pity on you for this non-scence.
A blood thirsty mind looking for others blood....beware of such guys on any society..
RE:RE:RE:Lot of lallus here.
by brother muralidharan on Feb 08, 2007 09:15 PM Permalink
Shameer, so who massacred Ali? Was it a) Jews, b) Christians, c) Hindus, d) purple aliens?
No, it was Muslims. To quote you, "A blood thirsty mind looking for others blood." Fits perfectly.
No Point in pointing fingers at others. Hindus themselves are responsible for chaos. Who are they all who have been openly campaigning for the destruction of their own religion in India?
Even Sangh Parivar has gone wayward, it can not tolerate the popularity of Modi, and want to cut size him. Never ever they have fought for Hindu's right. Temples are being demolished, People are converting to other religions, temples are under malicious anti-social elements, casteism is at large, untouchable is still in practice, Sanskrit could never come to main stream, no serious attempt to correct the British history, Marxism is at its peak which all make up the right mix to nation called India.. All that does not matter to them. The so called Sangh leaders are more prone to Media friendly than ever. Just giving one, two line hardline media statement is all what Sangh Parviar does. God Save them
Hindus should stop blaming all their problems on muslims. They should introspect themselves and try to find out what ails hindu society today and try to reform it so that social harmony is maintained and India's progress is unhindered.The same applies to muslims, buddhists, christians and people of other faiths in this country!!!
You cannot go very far when more than 700 million of your population is devoid of the benefits of liberalisation and poverty, disease, hatered is rampant in the society.
People like Rajeev dream of India becoming a super power but are also hell bent on dividing their mother land (people living in it) on communal lines SUBTLY so that a particular party acheives its objectives!!!But they havent learned any lesson from History. Most of them adore Hitler and want to do something similer in this country but fail to see its aftermath! where it left Hitler and his beloved Germany?
If muslims are no saints hindus are no angels from heavan either!!!If you point a finger at someone be aware that three are pointing at you!!!
In the end some one pointed out that I am a pakistani---Nothing can be more hilarious than this. They have a lot to worry about themselves. They dont have the time to read articles on rediff and then comment on then!!!
RE:'Grow Up India'
by brother muralidharan on Feb 08, 2007 09:25 PM Permalink
You said, "You cannot go very far when more than 700 million of your population is devoid of the benefits of liberalisation and poverty, disease, hatered is rampant in the society."
Is that why every Muslim society on earth is primitive and backward, except where there has been a windfall of oil?
Much much liberalization have Muslims done? How about disease in Darfur? How about hatred in Pakistan, Malaysia, the Gulf?
RE:'Grow Up India'
by DAMMALAPATI KUMAR on Feb 08, 2007 02:02 AM Permalink
Hi I disagree with the point that hindus should introspect , We are indians , If indians (Hindus ) have the unique quality of introspection from the begining which is why you see almost all relegions of world in india now and India was ruled by rulers of all majority religions and we have.
Best way for development is to stop looking for free bees and stop blaming each other and start looking at future ahead and have a vision and try to acheive it.
RE:'Grow Up India'
by Vijay B on Feb 08, 2007 09:54 AM Permalink
Hi Imaan,
Sorry to say, but in saying "Hindus" and "Muslims" YOU are NOT EVEN SUBTLY dividing the society - it shows how divided YOU are in the first place. Please set your house in order first, before preaching to others. Thank you!
RE:'Grow Up India'
by MATRIX boy on Feb 08, 2007 02:32 AM Permalink
Dear Imaan, i am happy to read ur line "'I am as much an Indian as any of you here'" i am sure if all people together ( all religions) think the same way, we are going to rise definately.
Cudos to all Indians who think the same way and HANG TO DEATH all people who try to divide us, the stupid politicians and people who try to remain in power by dividing comments, We can rise only as one nation, with hardwork.
Any one who tries to divide us is our Enemy No 1 and who wants peace is loving brother.
Maz, Well one more Islamophobic message from Rajeev Srinivisan. His choice of words of has gone form bad to worse as it is reflected in the use of Mohammadens rather than Muslims.
As it is apparent from the crappy analysis above, he like many neo-cons were gung-ho about the war and now since the tide has turned against the Superpower all the rats have left except the president who is hanging on to shreds of his tattered vanity.
RE:RE:Same old crap from a rabid Hate-mongerer
by Shameer on Feb 08, 2007 03:03 PM Permalink
Kurian....enough Yaar...so much hate from a true christian....Sanghis wont spare u also...u guys do the most forcefull Converts in India. Having said that nobody can deny the wonderfull job done by some true preachers like Mother Theressa and all....So keep ur cool.
Now to ur argument followers of call themselves Christains... Muslims never ever call themselves Mohammedens...
come out with some articles which calls Non-Muslims as 'kafir', 'shirk', 'dhimmis' etc. by some muslim authers...letz see that..
RE:RE:RE:RE:Same old crap from a rabid Hate-mongerer
by Maz on Feb 09, 2007 09:35 AM Permalink
John Thomas, You are an atheist right?, then why this dilly dallying about being a christian now.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Same old crap from a rabid Hate-mongerer
by Maz on Feb 10, 2007 10:33 PM Permalink
John Thomas, HAHA. Look at your own illogic. I am an Atheist, but I have a christian Heart. I can't prove by logic how I got into this world and I can't prove with logic why Mr A is my father and why not Mr B.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Same old crap from a rabid Hate-mongerer
by Maz on Feb 10, 2007 05:54 AM Permalink
You have been brainwashed by the likes of pat robertson and company.
Also I don;t need your compliments on my English, I know I write pretty well.
RE:RE:Same old crap from a rabid Hate-mongerer
by Maz on Feb 09, 2007 09:31 AM Permalink
Yes Mohammaden is a wrong word, as Muslims don't worship Prophet Mohammed(PBUH). Muslims is the right word, because Muslims are followers of the last divine and final message of one true God. The followers of previous propehts like Noah, Jesus, Moses(etc)(PBUH) were all Muslims as long as they stuck to true teachings.
Muslims respect and revere Prophet MOhammed(PBUH), but don't worship him as christians worship Jesus and attribute divinity to him.
First of all understand the proper meaning of words and write here. Kafir - means the one who conceals, (kafir in Islamic context means the one who conceals the oneness of Allah and associates partners with him) In a general term, a farmer is also a kafir as he conceals seeds inside soil.
Shirk -- means worshipping or associating partners with Allah, as christians do by making Jesus his Son, which is an outright lie.
Dhimmis - the ones who are protected. They pay jizya and they are the under the protection of the Islamic state.
Also someone who can worship a human and assigns divinity to mortals can never understand the personality of Prophet Mohammed(PBUH). There was none like him and there will be none like him in the future..
RE:RE:RE:RE:Same old crap from a rabid Hate-mongerer
by Maz on Feb 10, 2007 05:49 AM Permalink
Well, Well, you are a christian disguised as an atheist.
Prove to me that you there was no reason for your birth and that you came on your own and you selected your own parents.
Just prove to me one thing... I am not asking three questions, I am only asking one thing.
Well I don't call names unlike you, because my role model, the last prophet of Islam, Mohammed(PBUH) never did that.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Same old crap from a rabid Hate-mongerer
by Maz on Feb 10, 2007 10:19 PM Permalink
Wow, Now that I posed some questions that you could never answer, you called me funny instead of stooping the lowest of low levels as you did before.
My posts never potray me as a defensive victim.I write, but there are boundaries which I don't cross. I did not call Rajeev any name, I called what he is, I have seen him write for the last 5 to 6 years and what he writes is pure illogic and concocted lies.
What I wrote about Prophets MOhammed and Jesus(PBUH) is what I believe in and it is right. You also wrote about your beliefs that you are an atheist. But as a matter of fact you are a christian taking a convenient disguise of an atheist to attack Islam. But even for a moment if I take you as an atheist, I have asked you to prove your beliefs that you openly profess and write with a sense of pride.
I don't need science to prove that Jesus(PBUH) is not the son of ALlah and that Mohammed(PBUH) is the last of Prophets. The first one is common-sense and basic understanding of the characteristics of one True God and the second one has been proved time and time again by the likes of Sh. Ahmed Deedat and Dr. Zakir Naik from bible itself. Go and visit their web sites at your own convinience.
So it should be the other way, you should stop believing in things that they make no sense and then also stop doing Taqiyah of taking the disguise of an atheist, when you are a christian who hates anything Islamic.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Same old crap from a rabid Hate-mongerer
by Maz on Feb 10, 2007 10:22 PM Permalink
John Thomas, Also since you will fail miserably to prove the question I posed, you should take a self imposed exile from visting rediff for a month or two or unless you come back you your good senses.
RE:RE:Same old crap from a rabid Hate-mongerer
by on Feb 08, 2007 08:19 AM Permalink
When pee comes sweetness is the first symptom of diabetes. After urninating, when lot of ants comes to that area to drink that pee means, one became diabetes.
RE:RE:Same old crap from a rabid Hate-mongerer
by Imaan on Feb 08, 2007 01:00 AM Permalink
Who said. When you were born and your proud father announced the truth of your birth to his near and dear ones was this truth bitter???
Only when truth is adulterated to acheive a particular objective it becomes bitter!
RE:RE:RE:Same old crap from a rabid Hate-mongerer
by IndiaCarerFromAbroad on Feb 08, 2007 01:34 AM Permalink
What ever sweet you have over eated by telling stupidity, now coming other ways like diabetes for you. That is also true. truthhhhhhaaaaa!!!
Rajeev is right on one thing. India is pretending to be a good secular country. One thing is for sure. Hindus are being taken for a ride all over the world. Swastika ban, the temples being demolished, buddha stupas being destroyed in Afghanistan.. What would the muslim brothers in India who support pakistan in a cricket match against india want to say about this??
People like Rajeev stand up and tell the truth. Since we Hindus dont want conflict (rather since we are scared) we pretend to be secular. At least somebody is standing up.
One more thing. Anybody heard about a movie called Water? A hindu takes that movie telling the world that Hinduism was bad. Why dig up history to prove something Dosent she see India has changed since then. Cant she find one good thing about Hinduism to showcase?
Rajeev is talking exactly about these kind of people
RE:Terrorism is not a Muslim monopoly
by on Feb 07, 2007 10:12 PM Permalink
This proves exactly what? That all terrorists in the world are not Muslims? But what about the fact that 99% of the terrorism in the world is done by Muslims?
RE:RE:Terrorism is not a Muslim monopoly
by Joseph Kurian on Feb 07, 2007 11:05 PM Permalink
So 100% of the terrorists are not Muslims, only 99%. I am so relieved to hear that from Swaminathan S Anklesaria Iyer. It made my day.
RE:Terrorism is not a Muslim monopoly
by venky prasad on Feb 07, 2007 10:38 PM Permalink
Definition of terrorism is anyway vague - Modi and this thugs don't go down as terrorists, nor do the upper caste hindus who kill dalits as on the whole they get government patronage
RE:RE:Terrorism is not a Muslim monopoly
by Joseph Kurian on Feb 07, 2007 11:03 PM Permalink
How about the lower-caste DMK types in Tamil Nadu who oppress and kill dalits? According to you, I suppose they are not terrorists because they are Dravidians?
RE:RE:Terrorism is not a Muslim monopoly
by Manoj on Feb 07, 2007 11:23 PM Permalink
Well, Swami's article is good. Most of the struggles were for land. Not religion.Even the jews would be satisfied with getting their land which they got. But islamists will not be satisfied with that. The agenda seems to be domination and conversion to their way of life and ideals. This is very very scary for the hindu psyche, because most conversions in history were done by the fear of the sword and ur ideals are the one thing u guard most zealously. If kashmir was given up , u think they wud stop? It would be a big disaster for the existence of bharat, civil war in which probably most indian muslims would be killed or forced out and a lot of hindu deaths too. So in their interest we have to keep kashmir with India (not kidding). coming back to the agenda, it doesn't seem to be a matter of land or civil rights for the muslims. that is what makes it so scary. bin laden and company are like having a thousand hannibal lecters set free (not convinced , take one look at the pearl killing video - but with caution pls , coz it will de-humanise you too at a certain level).
RE:RE:RE:RE:Terrorism is not a Muslim monopoly
by john thomas on Feb 08, 2007 08:51 PM Permalink
The reason Hindus were not converted by the sword is that they resisted by armed force. They fought back. They continually kept the Muslims (not Mughals) under pressure and never allowed them to rule securely.
Christians in Spain, Austria, France etc. also fought back with violent force and that is how they survived. Wherever Muslims were not under military pressure, they wiped out the native culture.
There are many instances of conversion by the sword by Muslims. Persians, Egyptians, Coptic Christians, Syrians, Lebanese, Kurds, and others did not resist like Hindus and Christians did, and were converted by brute force by Muslim warriors.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Terrorism is not a Muslim monopoly
by Maz on Feb 10, 2007 10:29 PM Permalink
Really, you beleive HIndus fought back. Who fought back from Hindus, Shivaji(hiding in mountains and constantly pledging allegiance to Aurangzeb Alamgir) or Guru Gobind Singh who wrote letters of flattery to Aurangzeb again and again.
Yeah kings of europe fought back as they tried to stop anything good. But these are same european countries where Islam is spreading like a cool breeze. England and France come to the top. Then what did the same kings of spain and england to after comitting genocide in Muslim spain and they went to latin america to repeat the same thing. The jews after being driven out from Muslim spain had to take refuge in Ottoman empire. Hey Mr. Christian disguised as an atheist, come out of your fantasy land and do a reality check.
