India is a LAWLESS LAND and is incapable of governing itself as a CIVIL SOCIETY. This is a land where SUPREME COURT JUDGEMENTS AND DIRECTIVES ARE IGNORED with no consequence. Karnataka has flouted supreme court rulings on Cauvery dispute many times without any consequence. For those K'taka nationalists, I am not saying that what TN is doing is right. If it can be proved in a court of law that it is illegal, it should be stopped from doing so.
What we need in this country is for the law of the land has to be observed in a civil manner. If educated people do not believe in this, India has no future.
We should not allow ourselves to be driven emotionally to be parochial or nationalistic by these CROOKED POLITICIANS, and take law into our hands. CIVIL SOCIETY will cease to exist if we do so, and only chaos and lawlessness will prevail. This is reflected by the fact that India is one of the most CORRUPT countries in the world.
EDUCATED PEOPLE, DON'T FALL FOR THIS. THE COUNTRY NEEDS YOU **** BADLY **** TO BRING SENSE INTO OTHERS. INDIA SHOULD NOT BECOME AN ANARCHY WHERE 'LAW' MEANS NOTHING.
If only Karnataka people could start think logically, they could be richest state in TamilNadu because Banglore is the melting point of India.
For example they want to share the loss caused by flood by letting flood into Tamilnadu and whole tamilnadu would be flooded. But when there was just enough water to share for both state, they get greedy and create riot if they were asked to share water. what kind of selfishness is this? They are doing it for more than 20 years.
RE:Root of Kannada...
by on Jul 16, 2007 07:44 PM Permalink
I believe Tamil is the newest language picked from Malayalam a bit from Kannada and from Telugu. There is no basic words in Tamil like Pen ,Apple etc (they call PENA,APPIL) it is just a wrong pronunciation of English. Tamils don%u2019t know to pronounce the basic words, here is the list of works they kill 1. Mahatma Gandi %u2013 MAGATMA Gandi (Tamils don%u2019t even know to pronounce name of father of our nation) 2. Sneha/Regaman %u2013 SNEGA/ REHAMAN 3. Yamaha %u2013 YEMAGA 4. Chattny/Chapati/poori %u2013 SATNI/SAPATI/BOORI 5. Program %u2013 BROGRAM. There are lot many words where Tamils can%u2019t pronounce then how it can be oldest language. Tamils are good in fighting(like street dogs) that%u2019s the reason others give up the agreeing saying let the dog bark.
RE:Root of Kannada...
by saigeetha jagannathan on Apr 08, 2008 09:49 AM Permalink
Mr. 'On', Dont argue without analysing. Tamil is one of the oldest living language in the world and thats it doesn't consist of complicated verbal expressions like ha, ksha etc. You should understand that the languages evolved earlier have simple vocabulary than the lan evolved latter and not the other way. Do some linguistics. The antiquity of Tamil is well recorded with its longest surviving literature in the world and in fact all the south Indian tongues are derived from this language.
Kannada belongs to the family of Dravidian (a corruption of word Tamilian) languages. The very word Kannada is from Tamil word 'Kanivu', means fruity or sweet. But sadly the language is not original and most of its words are either borrowed from Tamil or Telugu or Sanskrit.
Even the script is borrowed from Telugu. Many Kannada words are formed by changing 'Pa' in Tamil to 'Ha'. For example, 'Paal' became 'Haalu', 'Pugai' became 'Hogai', 'Palli' became 'Halli', 'Peyar' became 'Hesaru'.
Recently some Kannada scholars have claimed classical status for this language. These same scholars fought tooth and nail to prevent Tamil being declared as classical as it is still living. Maybe they are convinced that Kannada is dead or dying!
Kannada does not have its own original word for "classical" and even for "language", not to speak of "classical!"
Kannada can be called the second daughter of Tamil after Telugu. The numerals are all derived from Tamil. The grammar terms like Noun, Verb etc are derived from Sanskrit.
RE:Truth about Kannada....
by The Lion on Feb 18, 2007 11:20 AM Permalink
"Most words are either borrowed from Tamil or Telugu or Sanskrit"
The exact and no point for refusing your factual words. Asal Kongas why still bark when they are in a position to see such a pathetic siuation for self.
Emergence of telugu from earlier day fine tamil is least to base. Bze we need again to go back more to sindi, bramhi where tamil shares common base with them. (Moreover today these two languages sindi, bramhi are much influenced and conquered by foreign languages.) But kannada and malayalam were clearly derived out from Tamil. And when it had faction-ed and formed its own identity it is not easy for them to accept the roots. You cant expect the same bengali-oriya rship here as the other side here are apes.
RE:RE:Truth about Kannada....
by tk on Feb 19, 2007 11:25 AM Permalink
Thanks Mr. Lion, Whatever thing I told, these Kannadigas just says baseless, proofless.
But My only question is.
What is original Kannada word for 'Language' and 'Classical'?
No one is reday to answer this question...because there is nothing like that in Kannada.
RE:Truth about Kannada....
by kanteerav on Feb 18, 2007 09:27 AM Permalink
What ever ...this kaveri problem and not kannada tamil problem. Any way...You are beliver of fantic Tamil. There is not true evidence. No research proves, this but false claim made by tamil. Any Kannad is older than Telugu if you do not know.
RE:RE:Truth about Kannada....
by The Lion on Feb 18, 2007 11:07 AM Permalink
Kid, everything is there to hit at your headpoint and back. And important thing that requires is heart to accept it. It requires only a fine study for this modern day on emergence of south-Indian languages by a reputed institute/university which can start telling you the history from 5000 years back of south.
Sofar the westerns had very well confused and divided the Indians by tell the false stories like fake concepts of aray-dravida etc. you like a..holes are there to shake the head for it.
RE:About Tamil...
by The Lion on Feb 15, 2007 08:38 PM Permalink
My request to tk. Your words are fine and let it tell the mights and finess of tamils and their history but without HITTING other Sentiments. Shall show the proud and shall not become arroagnt or overconfident. All are good and every spoken langauge serves the same purpose and shall we respect it. And we are proud of being Indians and of our heritage.
RE:RE:About Tamil...
by tk on Feb 16, 2007 12:00 PM Permalink
I never think that Tamil is superior than any other language. I always respect others. But these kannadigas abusing Tamils against the actual fact.
So kannadiga is claiming Silapathikaram is not writtten in Tamil, and Tamil is derived from Kannada, whats this? Should I need to keep mum while hearing such nasty things? If I keep mum, them, I may not be a True Tamilian.
I would like to respect your views, but If they go too much, then I have to tell the truth and express the magnanimity of Tamil Culture.
First I'm a Tamilian(has 2000 years of culture), then only I'm an Indian(which is formed just 50 years ago).
RE:RE:RE:About Tamil...
by The Lion on Feb 16, 2007 04:34 PM Permalink
Yeah! Stay with in the 'Circle/Subject' to hit at the apes and also make sure that dont get violated into some other sentiments.
RE:Dravidian Theory
by The Lion on Feb 15, 2007 04:29 PM Permalink
If the concept Arya is myth then the term Dravida is too a myth. It was fox-ness of the westerners to divide inida. a...hole
Ancient Tamil Palm leaf literatures mentions North West region from Tamil Nadu as 'KARU NADU AGAM' means 'Land of Black Soil'.
Even now we can most of the northern part of Karnataka has black soil only, you can find while travelling from Hyderabad to Hubli district and then to Goa.
Please read the tribunal's justification for the award.
It says the chief consideration for deciding on the issue was ensuring equity to both states by taking into account the past and present patterns of consumption of water. In TN, the main crop that depends on Cauvery water is paddy which needs a lot of water. Paddy has been the chief crop for several centuries and the main sustenance for this has been the Cauvery. As far as development of dams is concerned, the tribunal has observed that most of the irrigation potential of the TN had been achieved by 1974 (as visualised in the 1924 agreement between the then princely state of Mysore and the British presidency of Madras). However, Karnataka could not achieve what was stipulated in this agreement within the time specified. Moreover, the state had made it's claim for irrigation of semi dry crops (which were planned in new project areas). Semi dry crops need much less water than water intensive crops like paddy.
The irrigated/to be irrigated areas of TN and Karnataka with Cauvery water are 24.7 and 18.8 lakh acres respectively as per the award. The tribunal took into account various factors to arrive at these figures. These were 1) Pre 1924 status of usage, 2) Areas fixed in the 1924 agreement, 3) Areas otherwise developed by the two states that merited consideration and 4) Minor irrigation projects. Except with respect to the first factor, Karnataka's share is either comparable or substantially higher than that of TN. As regards the pre 1924 status, TN had 15 lakh acres dependent on Cauvery water while Karnataka (which too had paddy cultivation in the Cauvery basin at that time) had traditionally had only 3.4 lakh acres dependent on the Cauvery. It is chiefly this difference that has led to TN getting a substantially higher share of the award.
As far as Kerala's share is concerned, please note that all riparian states have a valid claim on river water.
One should consider these factors carefully to realise that the current award is a fair deal, especially when the combined claim of the two states is much more than the total quantum of water available in the Cauvery.
RE:RE:Justification of cauvery tribunal award
by The Lion on Feb 15, 2007 03:57 PM Permalink
a...hole is listening everyone the Uvlta story and this too is good work and better try out for kannada movies so that it can somewht stand par to 'others' and 'outsiders' movies. Means steal and reverse do the story of others to make kkka kanna-diga movies good.
