RE:RE:Why Solution??
by Hruthvick on Feb 06, 2007 11:16 AM Permalink
If u doesnt have water to drink in your home,will u give it to others ? tell me the truth ...by putting ur hand on ur head . may be some where :))
RE:Why Solution??
by lakshminarayanan rengasamyseetharaman on Feb 06, 2007 10:58 AM Permalink
Dont Bullshit and create sentiments. U cannot have the whole cavery because it has originated from karnataka. Already you have created the same chaos with Andhra in terms of Tungabatra RIVER
RE:RE:Why Solution??
by bhirav avinash on Feb 06, 2007 12:39 PM Permalink
I think u have no GK. TN is getting water from the very first day the river is originated. its not the whole of the cauvery we are fighting for its for a required chunk for the state of karnataka... dont u know TN ig also fighting with Andhra and Kerala for the water
RE:Why Solution??
by Balaji Arunagiri on Feb 06, 2007 11:01 AM Permalink
Kaveri is mother for both states people. Dont say yours. Rivers are national property. First be a indian. talk like a indian. Kannadiaka should change your silly mantality...ok... Dont talk like a kids..
RE:RE:RE:Why Solution??
by Ram on Feb 06, 2007 11:20 AM Permalink
Hey Srinivas your words shows more hatredness and uncivilized as its creating a dispute between tamils and kanndigas.Give your suggestion in a modest way which doent hurt anyone otherwise shut your mouth..Shame on u if u post a meesage like this again as it seems u are an literate person but uncivilized.Atleast try to be a human being not a beast
RE:RE:Why Solution??
by dada khalandar on Feb 06, 2007 11:21 AM Permalink
i think you are a big mental , dont talk nonsense,as it i(kaveri)s originatong from karnataka we have have the authority to fight back, moer over if the decision was neutral for both the states & giving more TMC for tamil rather than karnataka evn it is from karnataka
RE:RE:Why Solution??
by ashok krishnamoorthy on Feb 06, 2007 11:13 AM Permalink
If you think Tamils should be kicked out of Karnataka, then muslims should be kicked out of this world.
RE:RE:RE:Why Solution??
by Dada khalandar on Feb 06, 2007 11:29 AM Permalink
Useless fellow why are u diverting the minds of kannadigas , are u a god to thrown the muslims from this world in ur answer, there is no relation b/w this topic karnataka is free from communal disputes,but i am supportive to fight the terrorist even they are muslims,bcoz there is no law in our islam to kill innocent, dont talk foolsh things which are not related
RE:Why Solution??
by Nikhil P on Feb 06, 2007 10:56 AM Permalink
Tamilians would say they are your younger brothers because after giving birth to you she flows into tamil
RE:RE:Why Solution??
by RadhaKrishna Mallepeddi on Feb 06, 2007 10:59 AM Permalink
Nikil!!!! Dont have any other work apart from blaming your fellow indians? Please stop this for god's sake.
RE:Change the attitue!
by ashok krishnamoorthy on Feb 06, 2007 10:59 AM Permalink
Telugus live in TN. Mallus live in TN. We have a heated argument with the Mallus over alamatti dam. But we haven't seen a single Mallu killed over that. We don't ask our friends in TN if they are telugu or Mallu. we have all sorts of friends. These funny incidents happen only in Karnataka.
Above all the kannadigas blame the TN politicians for their imbecility.
RE:RE:Change the attitue!
by thribhuvan hk on Feb 06, 2007 12:20 PM Permalink
ashok.. am seeing ur responses and I feel bad about you... at one point you say.. bcos of tamilians blore is enjoying its economy.. and at another point you try to provde kannadigas hates people from other states... ohh boy you ar so much confused minded.. you have given contradictory statements... first if all try to behave as an india... tell me... when TN govt. gives a piece of land to any IT sectors.. it puts a condition saying that 40 to 50% of jobs shud be filled with localites... but the same is not with karnataka... we give the land and demand nothing in return...
tell me if blore wouldn't have been so much friendly.. how come so much andhraites and tamilians can stay, buy the property and get settle in blore...
not sure whether u stay in blore or not... now tell me...can i expect a tamilian (let him be wherever in TN) him/her to talk in any language other than tamil... can I expect the same in hyderabad... no.. never... blore is the only true cosmopolitan city which accepts all the people... we talk ur language if u don't know any other lang other than tamil/telugu..
have you ever respect kannada or kannadigas? have you ever given a try of learning kannada or other languages...
tell me.. what if lots of kannadigas start taking over jobs in chennai... won't you fell hurted? its the same in blore... i work in an indian mnc... i see ppl keep coming to projects based on relocation.. whoever comes from chennai he will be a tamilian.... and whover comes from hyd.. he/she will be andhraite... but not the same with bangalore... hence try to respect the local people sentiments... wherever you are in india....
RE:Change the attitue!
by krishnan kailasam on Feb 06, 2007 11:13 AM Permalink
I think u articulated the matter in a very "bad" shape which appears as if u don't have a "Right Attitude" to talk such a crap thing.Did u ever relalize that how many acres of agriculture land will get benifited with this verdict.How many farmers who have seen "draught" for so many years may see good old days back ? Think on that,hope u may soon end up in "Changing Ur Own Attitude".
RE:Change the attitue!
by Southie on Feb 06, 2007 10:53 AM Permalink
Mr. Ashish kumar
i am a telugu and please dont bring my people into this arguement. Lots of telugus live peacefully in TN and even when there is inter-state disagreement, Tamilians will never talk about kicking us out. Why? because they respect everyone. Going back in history, i must admit that Tamil is much older than Telugu. There is no reason to just say telugu is just as old. Please dont write crap, it aids no one.
RE:RE:RE:Change the attitue!
by RadhaKrishna Mallepeddi on Feb 06, 2007 11:04 AM Permalink
This fellow Nikil needs some treatment from a phsyciatric.He is so hateful to towards south people that he could not resist himself from blaming south people.I think some body from south might have given him a tough time in his life.Iam sorry Nikhil
RE:Change the attitue!
by subramanian bosky on Feb 06, 2007 11:06 AM Permalink
Know your facts and comment,First of all the issue is cauvery and its been adjudged by a centrla body , if it was in favour of Karnataka the same woudln't have happend to kanadigas in Tn,wheras it has happend in karnataka a decade back . second Tamil is the most ancient language in south india infact more ancient compared to many langauge in the world, its still a debate whether its ancient than sanskrit courtesy department of language @ Harvard report.In india there are discrimination in every state either based on caste (bihar,UP), reliagion(gujarat) ,language (karnataka,Maharashtra), so there is nothing that Tamil state is doind to demean a country's image, when Bangalore,Hydrebad,Gurgaon, noida had their share of FDI why not Tamilnadu have it share ,it safer than other metros,better roads than bangalore has proven quality of education compared to few other states .Roots of LTTE doesnt have anything to do with cauvery water disute, please dont make such dicriminative comments without knowing histroy of what been happening with water related disputes across states, your very remark is anti-regional , how can you remark that NRI who are tamilains don't belong to India , gimme a break , you need to apologise for discriminatory remark .
RE:Change the attitue!
by shankar on Feb 06, 2007 11:40 AM Permalink
Many players in Indian cricket team are from Bombay but it does not mean that they want everyone from their state. Many foreigners in US are from India but it does not mean that we (except you) all want everyone from India only. If you have skill and knowledge then try to get more ministers and even prime minister also. You forgot to mention that even president is also from Tamilnadu only. Further, who are you to call NRI as "Non Resident Tamilians" do you have any sense. Please do not write these types of nonsense posts. Do you know what are the problems going in Srilanka? First of all you come to tamilnadu and see how we live together with telugu and malayali people. Even though, we have disputes with them (politically) we never attacked them once (line you people) and that is the tamil culture. So, first you people should change the attitude.
RE:RE:Change the attitue!
by kamal nathan on Feb 06, 2007 12:14 PM Permalink
good shankar,that is our fate even if we do good things people will blame tamilians.this is the time to unite and work together.this is time we have to think and develop our state. " yathum voore yavarum kelier " this the poem which delivers tamilians mindset.which is written in entrance of nagara falls in canada.
I love life and want to life it to the full extent. But the greatest mistake is being born in india. I wish I had born somewhere else where poverty is not a issue. If water not shared properly people go down to the level of poverty. All the soldiers protecting India and dying have no meaning now. MAy be in Army also if there is a seperation like tamils and kaandiga, who will protect as from pakistanis and chinese. How could one people can take the living of others. The world where the boundaries are becoming thin and people are travelling everywhere for a better life. May be taminlandu and karnatak can declare a seperate state. Tamilanaud can get army protection from US, and karnataka from china and we can fight as super powers and become slaves to them
RE:re india
by SRINIVASA GOWDA on Feb 06, 2007 11:18 AM Permalink
THEN U HAVE CHOSEN WRONG PLACE GET OUT OF THIS DEBATE LADY. KANNADIGAHS ARE CAPABLE OF PROTECTING OURSELVES. SO U NEED NOT WORRY ABOUT US. OK? ANYWAYS TN WONT GET WATER THAT THEY WERE GETTING TILL NOW. SO PROVOKING US INFACT BECOME A CURING IN DISGUISE. SO BEAR THE BRUNT. ALREADYLOSSES STARTED WITH TN CHANELLS OFF AIR IN BENGALURU. HAHAHAHAHAHA. SO U WILL NOW SEE THE LOSSES THAT U WILL BEAR. THIS IS WHAT CALLED AS WINNER EVEN AFTER LOOSING. MY TEACHERS FAMOUS SAYING BE A WINNER EVEN THOUGH U LOOSE. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA..."JAI CAUVERY MAATHE, JAI KARNATAKA MAATHE".
RE:RE:re india
by Sri Ram on Feb 06, 2007 11:46 AM Permalink
I guess it is time for TN to stop the electricity given to karnataka. You can run divert kaveri water to your silicon valley run all your computers with water power. Dumbheads with understand things only when they get some kicks..
RE:re india
by srikrishna jewellery on Feb 06, 2007 12:03 PM Permalink
vikas we love life and say why born in india.take birth in pakistan -no democracy,no freedom,bhurqa,in bangladesh- natural calmaites year after year,communal problems,nepal-no democracy and many problems,usa-9/11,uk-train blast.afghanistan-osama,iran-war,iraq-war,there are many many many places with many problems. and you have problem with india,its not about india there is some problem with your self
WE SHOULD RESPECT THE LEGAL VERDICT GIVEN AFTER HEARING BOTH THE SIDES FOR 16 LONG YEARS. IF ANY PARTY IS AGGRIEVED IT IS OPEN TO SUBMIT REVIEW PERTITION BEFORE THE APPROPRIATE AUTHORITY. WHY ARE THE INNOCENT TAMILS IN KARNATKA HARASSED BY DEPRIVING THEM OF THEIR CHANNELS. THIS IS RIDICULOUS. LET THE BROTHERHOOD AMONG THE IMDIANS FLOURISH AND SUCH ATTEMPTS TO CURTAIL THE FREEDOM OF FELLOW INDIANS LIVING WITHIN THE COUNTRY BE STOPPED. PLEASE RESTORE TAMIL CHANNELS IMMLY.
Cauvery basin extends over an area of 87,900 sqkm which is nearly 2.7% of total geographical area of the country. The basin lies in the State of Karnataka ---36,240 sqkm Tamil Nadu-- 48,730 sqkm Kerala ----- 2,930 sqkm
When will be the Problem ======================== The Problem arises when drought will hit the south India, Karnataka Region is using water 50% on irrigation 50% Drinking water. Tamil Nadu 75% on Irrigation & 25% on Drinking Water.
Solution one ============ Cauvery water should proportionately allot the water on the basis of Flow of the water which is described as above.
Solution Two ============ Cauvery Water should allocate on the study research on water consumption and storage whole year and especially when drought will hit the states.
Permanent Solution ================== Permanent Solution will take some time, and need some money too. We have to build Two small dams one in the state of Karnataka, at beginig of cauvery flow after 50% distance of full flow of Cauvery after birth of place of Tala Cauvery where Cauvery will flow. and another one in Tamil Nadu, where The water Coming from the Karnataka will store immediately after its release in floods. If you are confusing, why two dams? here is the my answer. We have to plan especially when floods will hit the two states.
My point that we should store as much as water in rainy or floods seasons. WE ARE WASTING OUR FLOOD WATER BY DISSOLVING IT IN BENGAL SEA.
IF ANY SUPPORTS MY IDEA THEN PLEASE REPLY WITH YOUR COMMENTS AND VOTE FOR ME.
RE:Solution for Cauvery
by kumar on Feb 06, 2007 10:47 AM Permalink
more dams might be a good idea but the current solution was based on research and needs of the states. it was an independent commission that didnt constitute any tamilians. So if the Kannadigas feel its unfair, its based on the biased reporting (even rediff is guilty of it).
RE:RE:Solution for Cauvery
by vidya umapathi on Feb 06, 2007 10:52 AM Permalink
The people who have done the research were heavily funded by then Gov of Jayalalitha . You can see Biased tribunal decision.
RE:RE:Solution for Cauvery
by Narendra on Feb 06, 2007 10:54 AM Permalink
It might be an independent commission but it is clear that the DMK support to centre has played a big role. If you have followed the arguments before the comission TN failed to provide any proof for their complaint and still they have got 419 tmc
RE:Solution for Cauvery
by alex copperfield on Feb 06, 2007 10:48 AM Permalink
of all the messages, you seems to have most constructive thoughts. You are a good guy. My vote is yours.
RE:Solution for Cauvery
by Narendra on Feb 06, 2007 10:51 AM Permalink
You have made a nice point. During distress when Karnataka says there is no water it also means less water for drinking. TN should understand the fact and like you have said TN should start utilizing the excess water when there are more rains.
RE:RE:Solution for Cauvery
by Southie on Feb 06, 2007 10:56 AM Permalink
the commission also talks about distress time where all states will be hit proportionally. in other words, TN will get the biggest hit
RE:RE:RE:Solution for Cauvery
by Narendra on Feb 06, 2007 11:20 AM Permalink
That shows how well u understand the cauvery problem. Please stop commenting
Tamilians in Karnataka should first of all know to respect the sentiments of Kannadigas because you have come to Karnataka 'the land of Kannadigas' in search of a livelihood.
Tamilians should not take kannadigas for granted in the name of democracy and fundamental rights. I dont thing that people in chennai would tolerate kannadiga organisation in chennai claim cavery to belong to Karnataka. For the matter of fact any non-tamil speaking person in Chennai is never considered a human being at all.
Lastly I would caution all tamilains AGANIST karnataka and living in karnataka to not create another Srilanka in Karnataka. This land belongs to Kannadigas and will. If challenged, I dont find kannadigas to back of for any reason.
RE:Tamilians in Karnataka
by Ravi Balachandran on Feb 06, 2007 11:26 AM Permalink
If Tamil people donot consider non-tamilians as humans, we would not allowed a 'malayalee' to rule us for 13 years and a 'kannadiga' to be a film super star , where film is the bread and butter for a everyday tamilian.
RE:Tamilians in Karnataka
by VenkatRamanan RadhakrishnanIyer on Feb 06, 2007 12:19 PM Permalink
I did not know that "Kannadigaas" fell from Mars one fine day. I thought they were Indians.
Before commenting anything please look at the facts and figures. Right from pre-independence TN has opposed Karntaka(Mysore) from building any dams for Cauvery. TN want to utilize all the water in Cauvery which is unfair. Using the stupid agreement TN increased its cultivation to such huge levels which they could not sustain after Karnataka started uitilizing the waters. Karnataka is responsible for this mistake. Now if you see the figures for last 16 years only 4 years when drought was there Karnataka has not released 205 TMC to TN. Rest 12 years they have release more than 250 TMC so the tribunal should have clearly stated the distress formula which they have not done. Also the quantum of water per month to be release is also difficult because of the change in rain pattern. If these two problems namely the quantum of release per month and distress formula is solved then the crux of problem will be resolved.
Yesterday I was seeing on TV reactions from TN about the judgement. TN CM said that Karnataka has many rivers and TN has only this, what a foolish statement from CM. We can let Krishna water to flow from Belgaum to Bangalore. There was also discussion about nationalizing the water assets. Look who is speaking about nationlizing things, TN does not want to accept Hindi as a national language but want to nationalize water assets that too only cauvery. Last month there was a function in chennai to thank Sai baba for the Telugu Ganga project which brings drinking water to Chennai in which Karntaka, AP and Maharasthra CM were also present. TN should be thankful to Karnataka which agreed to give some of its share from Krishna to TN especially for Chennai. Now what did Karnataka get in return? When a Japanese delegation was about to fund driking water project for Bangalore they silent went and complained to them. This is the general behaviour of TN, they dont want to give and take.
RE:Grave injustice
by Narendra on Feb 06, 2007 11:22 AM Permalink
Thanks to moderator for disabling the "report abuse". I am just trying to put up the facts and figures and not trying to blame anybody here.
RE:Grave injustice
by VenkatRamanan RadhakrishnanIyer on Feb 06, 2007 12:23 PM Permalink
"Now if you see the figures for last 16 years only 4 years when drought was there Karnataka has not released 205 TMC to TN. Rest 12 years they have release more than 250 TMC so the tribunal should have clearly stated the distress formula which they have not done"
How funny? When your dams cannot tolerate the heavy inflows from the monsoons, you let go the extra water and claim to be Generous Donors? The greatest joke of the year... Ha HA HA
RE:Grave injustice
by The Lion on Feb 06, 2007 12:27 PM Permalink
- TN does not want to accept Hindi as a national language but want to nationalize water assets that too only cauvery. -
False words. Its nothing like that and so do you welcome another lanuage with open hands. You guys repeatedly speak abt non-kannadigas. what is that non? which is not yet seen there in TN.
- Last month there was a function in chennai to thank Sai baba for the Telugu Ganga project which brings drinking water to Chennai in which Karntaka, AP and Maharasthra CM were also present. TN should be thankful to Karnataka which agreed to give some of its share from Krishna to TN especially for Chennai. Now what did Karnataka get in return? -
It was a proper agreement signed between governments and implemented with help of a NGO. Most of the project cost is been paid by the govt of TN. Its few TMC of drinking water. what else? Understand and live together.
- When a Japanese delegation was about to fund driking water project for Bangalore they silent went and complained to them. This is the general behaviour of TN, they dont want to give and take. -
The story is different and even the same delegation didnt funded some drinking water projects in TN.
RE:when do you guys grow up??
by narendra sn on Feb 06, 2007 10:45 AM Permalink
hello, this is verdict is not given by an neutral panel. there is also some politics. you see that also. DMK supports UPA govt in centre.
RE:RE:when do you guys grow up??
by Pavan Tadas on Feb 06, 2007 11:30 AM Permalink
THIS IS OBVIUOUSLY A POLITICALLY MOTIVATED VERDICT>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a completely biased verdict
RE:when do you guys grow up??
by JAYAKUMAR N on Feb 06, 2007 10:43 AM Permalink
I think u donot know the ground. If u r feeling funning at this then u should also feel funny at India fighting for kashmir. People of karnataka can give their lives but not cauvery.
RE:RE:when do you guys grow up??
by Narendra on Feb 06, 2007 10:45 AM Permalink
It is not a time to be emotional but unwanted comments about people from other states who does not have any information about cauvery is not good. They should stop provoking others.
RE:when do you guys grow up??
by kumar on Feb 06, 2007 10:39 AM Permalink
actually most of the fight seems to come from one of the states so its unfair to say both are illiterates. Furthermore, its a minority of violent people in the other state who are illiterate
RE:RE:when do you guys grow up??
by hindustani on Feb 06, 2007 10:55 AM Permalink
offered is more than what you are expected. then why you think leaving the karnataka ?
RE:RE:when do you guys grow up??
by Rakesh R on Feb 06, 2007 10:46 AM Permalink
balls.... u support terrorist activities in lanka under that pretext of freedom struggle, there have been loud shouts in TN, to separate out from India, n u call us violent... n u elect govt on basis of "number of TVs" distributed n not on development, n u call us illiterates, what bull crap
RE:RE:RE:when do you guys grow up??
by ashok krishnamoorthy on Feb 06, 2007 11:06 AM Permalink
go refresh yourself on some facts. Search Tamil in wikipedia to learn it's greatness. We are more powerful and wealthy than Karnataka. Our kings have overshadowed your kings for centuries. Now our scientists and politicians are overshadowing you guys. all you guys can do is just crib or attack some innocent souls.
Seems this message Board is fuelling unwanted thoughts among the educated mass. This message board should be used to discuss the issues and get concerns / opinions in a honest way.
In no way, it should fuel separatist thoughts. It it not good for our (India's) growth.
The details of tribunal findings are not very clear. How they determined this much allocation should be made known to all? The output, usage, realisation etc.,
Let us ask for that kind of information, without blaming the language based public...like kannadigas, tamils etc.,
RE:Can we stop this message board culture going into a wrong way?
by RadhaKrishna Mallepeddi on Feb 06, 2007 10:37 AM Permalink
I agree with Ramanathan.In no way,it should encourage Seperatist views.We are all indians and we should be united all the time
RE:Can we stop this message board culture going into a wrong way?
by Narendra on Feb 06, 2007 10:43 AM Permalink
I absolutely agree with you. But there should not be any injustice to anybody
RE:Can we stop this message board culture going into a wrong way?
by Nikhil P on Feb 06, 2007 10:47 AM Permalink
I don't agree. Southies abuse other people on every news story. Now they are involved in it so they are trying to shy away from debate
