One thing is very clear, the Growth in either things depends up on the peoples who are living in the country and beleving in to it.
I think that if people are not strong about the values and religion of themselves, that religion and values, I regrat to write that, will not last long. This is the major reason, that one day the India was up to Kabul in west and many parts of china in north, and many parts like in east too,, Why we are not viewing any person with Hindu religion over there ? the simple reson, we are not giving enough importance to our values and religion. Its fact that Gautam Baudh and Ashoka moved in whole europe and many times we are finding our god's old statues from that part, but no one prays to them. This is due to no one giving respect to the religion.
For improving the economic conditions, we had become lebral. Same as for making our religion and values strong, we should develop the pride in ourselves for our values and Hindusium. If this will take place, We will see mandir in all parts of world, and Hindues in all part of world. We are almost 10 % of world's population and thats big amount.
About muslims of the India and even Pakistan, I regrat to say them that they should understnad that they are not the "vansaj" of Mahd. Gazani. They must be converted before say 500 years. Any one can beleve that this many of muslims came from west side of the greater india, noep... its not possible, but due to any circumstances many persons has preferred to convert them selves. Thats ok that they are beleving in "allaha" and not in"bhagwan", but they should still think that they are the Indian and they should respect the values of the India, culture of the India, which is Hinduisum.
I don't understand what all this talk is about. How are we losing India? India has always changed through history. That is the one constant that has always existed during India's civilization. As for this idea that we are losing Hinduism. Hinduism has survived centuries of attacks, conversions, colonizations, and untold brutality from foreign invasions. I think it will survive the onslaught of technological modernity and material prosperity just fine.
Bottom line is whether India becomes a global super power or spiritual capital -- does not matter to citizens living with hunger. Plenty of kids are sleeping without food everyday in India. How does it matter what religion we follow, what civilization we ape , how much is our brian drain, who is investing in India, which company India is buying etc, etc ???
-- when we do not even have the basic resources to even feed the children born in our country.
RE:hunger on the street
by Saddam H on Feb 06, 2007 03:53 AM Permalink
Well said Raj. The people who say india booming are those whose bank balance booming. Groung reality is still there are 35 crore people sleep with one time meal, childrens die without medicines and remain illetrate due to poverty. I hope that we will learn to face reality and stop slogans. We arequire to be treated for oral diahhorea!!!
RE:RE:hunger on the street
by IndiaCarerFromAbroad on Feb 06, 2007 05:32 AM Permalink
Hi, It is applicable to your country too. So, what is the speciality in hearing that.
RE:RE:RE:hunger on the street
by IndiaCarerFromAbroad on Feb 06, 2007 05:38 AM Permalink
Hi, Some bad things we can match with your country. But the good things only you can see in India. But that won't see in your Blind Eyes, that is not our problem.
RE:RE:RE:RE:hunger on the street
by raj on Feb 06, 2007 11:36 AM Permalink
Mr. Indiacare, not sure whom you are referring as outsider. I'm a proud Indian.
RE:RE:RE:hunger on the street
by Dr. Nitin Gandhi on Feb 06, 2007 08:26 AM Permalink
You telling me? dear Indiacare...? iy yes then let me tell you I am a Indian, and proud to be.
Francois states, "Thus, democracy in India has been hijacked. It takes a fortune to be elected. Politicians, elected by and for the people, once they are locked in the ivory tower that is Delhi, forget all about the people."
When in the last 50 years were the politicans in Delhi concerned about the people they represented? Does anyone really believe that Indira, Moraji, Rajiv, et al did much good?
Older people like to talk about the "good old days," of the 1950's. Let's compare 1960 with 2005
Literacy rate: 1960: 20% 2005: 61%
Per capita GDP (in 2005 $PPP) 1960: $800 2005: $3,700
Annual Population Growth Rate: 1960: 2.4% 2005: 1.4%
Average Annual Real GDP Growth Rate: 1950-80: 3.8% 2000-06: 7.0%
RE:What a BOGUS article
by stav on Feb 06, 2007 04:00 AM Permalink
Rohit, I dont think you understood the article at all. How does your statistics disprove the points in the article, which you are so quick to condemn. His point is we are throwing the baby with the water.
RE:What a BOGUS article
by Subramanian Padmanaban on Feb 06, 2007 02:05 PM Permalink
Also compare the 1960 and 2005 of other developed countries. You will see a larger difference. You are seeing only one side of the coin and thinking that the other side will also be the same.
If India keeps copying the west, then it will always be trying to play catch up.We can set up our own standards that are better than most developed countries in the world. All the young people of India should read the book " Confessions of an economic hitman" by John Perkins. This book tells a true story, of how one country is trying to build it's influence(Cultural,religious)on the world, without even having to go to war. If the youth of India read this book and take initiative, then India could be a power to reckon with, in it's own right, and actually be more responsible towards this world, than exploiting the world for it's own good, like this country.
This was the first article of Francois I saw, it's really a gud one, probably time has come to introspect ourselves and move in the right direction. India's(or for any country for tht matter) real power lies in spirituality regardless of any Religion, caste, or nationality.
He has been very knowledgeble and his articles are meaningful. There are some bad aspects of westernization too, and we should grow but be watchful against bad things. Are we careful enough in copying west. He points us out to so many western follies will also be imported too besides just growth in wealth. After having followed the same story US is now amused at resilience of indian society, their spiritualism (hindu , muslim or any religion). Very less divisiveness in society, less of family breakup, family values, quite a bit of drug free society etc. We should build on these also. Just like saints/fakir and yogis are teaching us.
Unfortunately the deeper truths and essence of Indian spiritual systems is getting lost in the mundane fanaticism of the Kalyug.
Truth is not Indian truth or Hindu Truth. It does not manifest in the form of nations or culture. In fact such mundaness hides truth from those who live in such a false world.
How does it matter if a Christian calls for tribals to convert or a Muslim does not accept Indian nationality. How does it matter if a Sikh says he is not a Hindu. How does it matter if a Hindu attaches his religion and faith system with his national existance.
All this is Maya. It is the Maya of the world described in the Bhagavad Gita and the Guru Granth Sahib. It is the Maya that so many prophets and Gurus spoke of that blinds us to hate and judge others.
Mr Gautier, do not elevate your ego based upon hate. The truth of the scriptures and culture you love preaches kindness, compassion and humility. These 3 virtues are the virtues of a true warrior. No nation can be based upon falseness. That nation will only one day crumble as it advocates an illusion.
India too is such an illusion, like so many other nations and civilizations that have come and gone...
RE:Truth is larger then religion
by S Ramanathan on Feb 06, 2007 10:53 AM Permalink
I think your perception of Mmr gaultier being egoistic is maya. Being kind and compassionate is one thing and being spineless is another.
