We purchase 1 ltr water for Rs. 12 without thinking why we need to pay for so much for it.
Only farmers can understand the need of Water of very well and the tribunal has come up with this after a great discussions and understanding. So it will be fair and let us be democratic.
In Bangalore not only Kannadigas are living, almost 30 to 40% is from Tamilnadu. Karnataka is sharing its soil, water and other resources to People from TN. TN wants both benefits here in Karnataka and TN. The virdict should be taken back or else it will lead to real violence and fair justice to be given to Karnataka
RE:Unfair /unjustice virdict
by Raju Aiyer on Feb 05, 2007 04:35 PM Permalink
Well: Mahadeva Swamy. It is very magnanimous on the part of Kannadigas to support 30 to 40 per cent of Bangalore's population from Tamil Nadu. What is your price for that? The life of an entire state of TN? The Almighty has supported Karnataka with three major rivers -- Kaveri, Krishna, Tungabhadra and many tributaries of these rivers. But fortunately or unfortunately Karnataka is an upper reparian state (URS). The soil content in the URS is bound to be of very very poor quality as compared to the soil content of the delta region. This geographical truth is true for the entire world and not just for Karnataka. The soil content in the delta region is bound to be rich because of the sediments the river carries through its entire course and deposits it at the delta before draining itself into the ocean. The crop yield in the delta is manifold as compared in URS. You have to really pump in your soil with water and fertilizers before it can yield crops profitably. In the process the soil becomes dead over a very short period because of overexposure to chemical manure. However in the delta region the contrary is true. Of course I have travelled through your Mandya district where it is green all around. But this greenery is only soil deep which is sustained by generous Kaveri. You haven't perhaps read about crop yield in the delta region of kaveri which fortunately or unfortunately falls in Tamil Nadu. Actually the chest beating of "support" and "we will teach a lesson to these Tamil guys" and "we will teach a lesson to the kannada guys" is all very well for the politicians who survive on the emotional eruption of their respective people. But the educated ones should try to bring about a change in the mindset of rulers of the URS. I am sure if one can agree upon "rice for water" agreement with TN, it would be beneficial to both the parties. The fertile fields of TN which lie dried up due to stifling of Kaveri in the URS can have three crops in a year -- out of which yield one can be exclusively for Karnataka. Otherwise at least one should have the courage to abide by the verdict given by a third party -- the Supreme Court, Central Water Tribunal. If not one might think of suitably amending the Constitution so that TN and Karnataka is allowed to raise their respective armies and the issue could be settled on the battlefield. Burning of buses from TN, smashing of Cinema theatres in the Cantonment area, etc. only speak volumes of the cowardice on the part of those indulging in such acts. Tamil Nadu has only one major river and that is Kaveri. Abundant as you are with river resource if you would like to stifle our only source of water for irrigation, then you would be pushing TN into a desperate corner. You know desperate situations begets desperate solutions and when it comes to violence I think the Tamils can be second to none! Sagacity should give way to chauvinism. And Mahadeva Swamy, I know Kannadigas are God-fearing people. Nature is meant for sustaining humanity around the course of a waterbody. (Here it is Kaveri). If it had been the Almighty's design that Kaveri is exclusively for Kannadigas then it would have ended up in a lake somewhere within the boundary of Karnataka and would not have flown for more than half its length into Tamil Nadu. What nature did not mean to do, if you think you can do so by ending Kaveri's flow within the many dams you build across the river and its tributaries in your Kannada territory then nature has got its own way of righting a wrong. Anything is a possibility when crores of people living in Tamil territory raise up their arms in prayer to the Almighty to mitigate the injustice done to them by those of the URS. Good luck!
RE:RE:Unfair /unjustice virdict
by karthik parashar on Feb 05, 2007 05:37 PM Permalink
That sounds like a heart felt comment!!
Taking cues from your comments, TN has 3 crops because of the fertility of the delta that cauvery creates even in the arid season!
So, what justifies 419 tmcft of water? Why not let the karnataka farmers use more water when they are struggling to get anyway close to the second crop?
RE:Unfair /unjustice virdict
by Janarthanan Srinivasan on Feb 05, 2007 03:38 PM Permalink
Yes, well said Mahadeva, the TN people is sharing resources and paying back their money in the form of tax to the karnataka. They are working for karnataka and because of TN people you are making bucks. You are living in the TN peoples potential because of your lack in knowledge and potential skills.
RE:Unfair /unjustice virdict
by pjrs on Feb 05, 2007 03:46 PM Permalink
There is nothing in bangalore except IT. It runs with Tamil people's potential. Not tamilians in bangalore, no IT in bangalore.Try to understand.
First, let us all learn to respect our judiciary system and the verdict given. More than us, the tribunal would have done a detailed study on the situation and would have arrived at the verdict. So, why are we writing comments like irrational idiots? How are the Tamils living in Karnataka responsible for the verdict? Why are you all asking the Tamils to get out of Karnataka? Does it not sound very inhospitable and silly of us Kannadigas? We have lived wiht the Tamils here for a long time and have developed a feeling of brotherhood wiht them.. Let's not spoil it for some political issue like this. Water is a natural resource and the central has the right to allocate according to the needs of the states.
We are all Indians first, then only Kannadigas, tamils, telugus etc etc. JAI HIND!
RE:Indian first...
by srivatsa yb on Feb 05, 2007 03:38 PM Permalink
u will no when u have no water in ur house for nature calls...u will eat ur words then
RE:RE:Indian first...
by mahadeva swamy on Feb 05, 2007 03:54 PM Permalink
Very good reply to Bhanu. In fact I am not getting Kavery water in my own state Karnataka.
RE:Indian first...
by umashankar gowda on Feb 05, 2007 04:39 PM Permalink
dear bhanu let me know what do u mean by Indian, it is about feeling good to every one or as Indian respect the sentiments Inidans. kindly let me know, u cannot burn u r house to light others my dear. sharing should have been made on the availability and the usage of water every year avoiding futher developments. upon excess of water matter can be thought of developmnets.
RE:Indian first...
by siva raman on Feb 05, 2007 04:01 PM Permalink
ANY VERDICT IS THAT TYPE IS BOUND TO HURT THE SENTIMENTS OF THE SIDE WHICH DID NOT GET WHAT IT WISHED. HOWEVER BOTH KANNADIGAS AND TAMILS SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS ONLY A VERDICT WHICH CAN BE CHALLENGED IN THE COURT. LET THE RESPECTIVE GOVTS ACT FAST AND SEEK THE REMEDIES. WE SHOULD NOT RESORT TO VIOLENCE AND DESTROY THE PUBLIC PROPERTY WHICH TAKE US DAILY TO OUR PLACE OF WORK. MORE CONGESTION AND MORE DELAYS IN REACHING THE WORKSPOTS. WHAT IS REQURED IS A STRONG POLITILCAL WILL TO SOLVE THE ISSUE. I APPEAL TO ALL CONVERNED NOT TO PRECIPITATE THE ISSUE AND TAKE IT TO THE STREETS HURTING INNOCENT FELLOW BROTHERS AND SISTERS. LET GOOD SENSE PREVAIL PLEASE.
RE:Indian first...
by veera guru on Feb 05, 2007 03:36 PM Permalink
Hello R u from TAMIL NADU??? y u r writing such kind of comments abt karnataka people? wt u r thinking abt them??? we r idiots?? u mind ur language and do the comment.
RE:RE:Indian first...
by Bhanumathi B on Feb 05, 2007 03:39 PM Permalink
Dear Veeru, I never talked about Karnataka people there.. I was talking abt us commenting in the rediff. We have a responsibility to spread unity and not hatred. So, let's all come out of the narrow shell - of confining ourselves to our state.
Im neither a Tamil nor Kannadiga.. IM JUST AN INDIAN.
RE:RE:RE:Indian first...
by pretham sn on Feb 05, 2007 03:43 PM Permalink
YOu dont make comment any thing.It is better way to keep quite. ok You think people of Karnatak
First let us try to respect the democracy that we created for ourselves. First understand that the tribunal would have spent more time in finding the needs, analysing the data, needs etc. We dont know anything and speak as if we know everything.
Think Indian, dont restrain urself locally by region.
RE:Indian first...
by pretham sn on Feb 05, 2007 03:42 PM Permalink
I think your are belong to Karnataka. if you are in Karnatka you think what is our basic needs
We are kannadigas and hence indians! They are tamilians and hence indians!! I guess, the feeling of brotherhood has over-grown and is causing the brothers fight for their right!
Please stop sending hatred messages. After all its the low class people who are going to bore the brunt at both sides. Lets spread message of unity, not hatred. After all we belong to a single country, not 2 different countries (Tamilnadu and Karnataka).
RE:Verdict on Cauvery
by pretham sn on Feb 05, 2007 03:40 PM Permalink
who told ? we are not belong to a single country. Whenever judiciry verditct is unfavour to Karnatka. You think and msg us. First you think your place and say an indian.
this is stupid judgement we bangaloreans should fight for this we are not supposed to give single drop of water to tamilnadu. we will fight for this JAI KARNATKA
RE:stupid judgement
by Sundaresan N on Feb 05, 2007 03:36 PM Permalink
why dont we remove the borders between both the states and then maybe this problem disappears....
RE:Lets fight in Supreme Court
by mahadeva swamy on Feb 05, 2007 03:58 PM Permalink
Hello Man?. How much you want? be happy with what is given don't repeat this is in favour of Karnataka, we cannot tolerate.
RE:Lets fight in Supreme Court
by Raju Raju on Feb 05, 2007 03:56 PM Permalink
do u hav statistical survey of both the states and compare the previous availability with verdict given by now, and compare altimate aim of providing the water needs , i am opposing ur opininon.
I know most of the people who write the messages here are IT people. Now we jus talk as though Karnataka has been cheated and Tamil Nadu awarded with abundance of water. We say its politics and there is foul play at the centre. But we havent realised that we people in IT never understood the real need for water sharing. Do you think the tribunal wasted 16 years to give this verdict - not at all. We people in IT never know how much of land in under irrigation in Karnataka and in Tamil Nadu. We dont know the numbers for the amount og water reuired by these southern states. When we really dont have a good idea about numbers its worthless to point that verdict is not in our favor. Please respect the decision and abide by it. If people are not satisfied appeal against the verdict. Its so stupid to argue and raise comments about the two states. SPEAK YOUR MIND fellas.
Do you think our demands for the requested 500 odd tmcsft was made out of no where? I have complete faith in the leadership and representation. Dude, its hard for everyone to know everything! Keep aside knowing it, u wont even understand it!!
RE:To All
by Raju Raju on Feb 05, 2007 03:51 PM Permalink
my dear friend , but the people who r responding should having the minimum idea of real situation in the state, so don't say that without having idea , somebody speaks noncence, i hope u got what am saying.
The issue that is to be watched out now is that there should be no reports of any untoward incidents.When the two parties can Appeal against the verdict I feel the issue can still be solved amicably...Over all thought the justice is delayed the justice has arrived...
