Equality should came in all aspects. May be in river issues or any other issues. They have no thinking of people in Karnataka & eager for seat minded people in central.
I am not a tamilian, but I know this issue has to be settled like this only. It is the life of farmers in both the states. When a tribunal (neutral) giving a verdict , they would defintely consider the needs of both the parties. LET US UNITE. Let the politicians keep quite and they are the problem creators.
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by SHIVA SP on Feb 05, 2007 04:47 PM Permalink
My dear friend...at this time. I can't accept bullshit injustice and say Let us be Indians...sharing is OK but snatching somebody's bread is unaccepted, it is brutal understand this first before expressing your views
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by SHIVA SP on Feb 05, 2007 04:40 PM Permalink
Mr.Swaminathan, The tribunal is not at all neutral you have mistaken. Though Karnataka was arguing well in the court with proper evidences and TN unable to justify certain issues like Mettur Project...The biased judges have given verdict against Karnataka..definitely DMK has played a major role here.....
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by Swaminathan V on Feb 05, 2007 05:47 PM Permalink
Do you know the statistics of water storage in both the sides ? Do you know the needs and Karnataka's actual requirement of water ? We should not argue just because we belongs to Karnataka. Let us argue with some logic.
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by buska O on Feb 05, 2007 04:55 PM Permalink
Mr. Shiva, dont just say as if you saw the argument, first of all dont be biased ... Think on both sides... Karnataka ppl well furnished with water, earning good amounts of money on cultivation is good point. But not on others cost. Have you heard of thousands of farmers in TN suicide because of no water? I understand such cases happened in Karnataka, but have you compared the frequency of suicides ??? Think twice before commenting something, sire...
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by Swaminathan V on Feb 05, 2007 05:43 PM Permalink
Dear Shiva, Let us not spit on the judiciary. Particularly, knowing the sensitivity of this issue, the tribunal would have thought 100 times before taking any decision, I understand, there are not tamilians in the tribunal. Please, think, If I come to your house will you not give a cup of water?
RE:Let us unite
by Kathir N on Feb 05, 2007 04:20 PM Permalink
WELL SAID, JUST BECUASE SOME POLITICIANS WANT TO LIVE, THEY RUIN FARMERS OF BOTH STATES. PEOPLE NEED TO THINK & ACT.
Verdict of the tribunal is really unfair ans partial. Nobody can ask for a major share of such natural resource.Tribunal should also study the aftermath of such verdicts by them. Both TN and Karnataka has to pay for the heavy losses which takes after such verdicts.Inorder to put an end to such problems it should be divided equally among two states. This ratio is really unfair and partil for karnataka.Ruling party has to take the next step immediately inorder to stop any problems arising out of this verdict.C.M has to look into it.
Cauvery tribinal has given an excellent verdict, ofcours it is little short of expectation from Tamilnadu.
It is the duty of india and indians to protect the land of Tamilnadu which holds the major industries of India. This heavily industrialised state needs water for its industries and more importantly for farmers.
Kannadigas should accept this verdict for the sake of their own land. They should remember that for ELECTRICITY & FOOD ,they largely depend on TAMILNADU as do KERALA depends on TN.
Assume Tamilnadu denies electricity and food to kannadigas today. Immediately Karnataka will be in dark and kannadigas will be forced to buy food grains and vegetables for costliest price from other states.
Kannadigas should learn the art of sharing. If karnataka keeps denying water to TN, there will be oneday when Karnatak will be in dark and will be starving for food. But tamilians wont do that. We know the art of sharing.
I hope Kannadiga will not make their city called BANGALORE to live with CANDLES.
RE:Good decision, lets all support Indian judiciary.
by Sandeep Nair on Feb 05, 2007 04:19 PM Permalink
Your subject is "Good decision, lets all support Indian judiciary." I wonder if you would write the same if the verdict were in favor of Karnataka.You seem confused madame...We are 2 adjacent states of a country called INDIA. We are not 2 scrapping countries who are at cross-purposes.Pls dont form your opinions entirely based on political propoganda.
Here's something for your to ponder on: Both Kerala & Karnataka have abundant natural resources, including water. So if TN feels that it can hold these states to ransom, its sadly mistaken.. You see at least these 2 states have the resources required to harness electricity. What would TN do if both the states denied you water? I think you are prejudiced.
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by Raghu SM on Feb 05, 2007 04:12 PM Permalink
oh my god..First time am hearing this foolish statement that karnataka people are borrowing food from TN..What a great joke...Great. Heloo its tamilians who went to malaysia, singapoore etc to earn their livelihood. Also they migrated to bangalore for their food..And now asking for water to earn thier food...Now tell me who is dependent on food on whom???
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by Sundaree on Feb 05, 2007 04:40 PM Permalink
What a poor knowledge from you. So BRITISHERS came to india.Does that mean they depend food on india??.
We have the knowledge. World needs our knowlege.They are calling us. Why cant you kannadigas be in IT industry.?.
Today we have become PM and PRESIDENT of Singapore. That doenst means that we depend on food with singapore. Singapore needs us.
Please check with your Food ministry of karnataka from where they are getting food grains.
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by Kathir N on Feb 05, 2007 04:23 PM Permalink
please mister, learn the facts first. Never a tamil had went in search of food, we always migrated in quest of teaching someone a better living, Infact it was from the tamils you learnt how to do agriculture. Your vidhan chouda was not built wth a single kannadigan, it was a tamils dream & hard work...never utter these useless statements..think we all are one...your superiority can be seen in kinda movies u make & stars you have..kananda film industry is the worst ever i have seen
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by Rajiv Shivashankar on Feb 05, 2007 04:17 PM Permalink
Karnataka can take care of it's power requirements. The politicians who govern you need to be thrashed, and you need to be taught the truth. TN's behaviour on the Cauvery and Mullaperiyar issues needs to be studied intensely. Blocking the state borders like TN did with Kerala is NOT neighbourly. Karnataka can buy power from Maharashtra and Kerala. TN also buys power from Kerala. We can afford to buy our vegetables and power from other areas. TN is industrialised, but Karnataka is having the most critical defence industries. What is the great industrialisation in TN that it needs so much water ? Think and then write. Jai Karnataka Mathe.
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by Sundaree on Feb 05, 2007 04:43 PM Permalink
What a poor knowledge. TN is one among the few states that has excess electicity power. Today 35% of India's total thermal power is produced in our state. KERALA is buying electricity from our state. As well as they are buying good grains from our state.
Go and sit in Kerala and Karnatak border to monitor the food grains, Vegetables and Milk getting exported to these states.
In a recent visit to india, Srilankan president has requested electricity from TN.
Please read the news atleast before you speak out.
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by Balu RB on Feb 05, 2007 04:45 PM Permalink
sundaree please there is nothing for us to fight with our people. We will stay united to save our fellow men. pls join our hands together
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by Parthiban on Feb 05, 2007 05:18 PM Permalink
Hello idiot without tamilnadu you wont get food dear please thing before writing
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by Balu RB on Feb 05, 2007 04:43 PM Permalink
stop your nonsense mr veera guru what is there to use these type of words. if we start going to hurt each other nothing is going to left within in us. i honour respect to your motherland, but try to love your fellowmen we are human beings not animals I think u will understand
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by SHIVA SP on Feb 05, 2007 04:54 PM Permalink
TN should learn the art of sharing..its snatching it from KA through political power (DMK in UPA Govt.) and nothing else......KA has been giving water to TN from a long time....but greedy TN wants more at the cost of KA
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by jaganath nath on Feb 05, 2007 04:49 PM Permalink
are you a real patriot, a real indian, if then you wouldn't have divided karnataka & Tamilnadu for Electricity, food & Water.... YOU ARE A SELFISH, YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY RIGHT TO COMMENT ON US (KANNADIGAS).... FIRST TRY TO BE INDIAN, WATER IS NOT IN OUR HAND OR YOUR HAND, IF THERE IS A MORE WATER WE CANNOT STORE AT THE SAME TIME IF THERE IS NO WATER WE CANNOT LEAVE IT......
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by Balu RB on Feb 05, 2007 04:59 PM Permalink
Yes Mr jagnath, i know what i am talking about, ur exactly correct if you have water you can share that is what the judge says. If you dont have enough water how can you give. Pls check the present dam status. It is not going to get resolved unless we stop fighting each other. What veera guru said is fully emotional not from his minds. pls understand
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by thabitha raj on Feb 05, 2007 04:54 PM Permalink
Ha ah ah ah....somebody enlighten him....boss there is a serious issue going on n u r cracking jokes out here....We dont beg like u tamilians who come out 2 B'lore n beg for food first n then for jobs n then for space....etc etc....including water....i know most of the Tamil ppl out here r either labour class or FFN's (Fit For Nothing's)...so i guess u folks need 2 ensure candles n stuff....now that u ppl have sufficient water in TN...plz plz plz....take bath once a week ATLEAST!!!!
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by Balu RB on Feb 05, 2007 05:05 PM Permalink
Hello MR Thabitha Raj, Try to think before fighting for something. This is not about who is fit or not fit. You people never understand the reality. You just take it as Tamilians vs Bangaloreans. If there is a scarcity not me even you too will have to be in the same situation. Try to share. If if we people cant stop fighting well how come the illiterate
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by buska O on Feb 05, 2007 05:01 PM Permalink
hahaha, did you see sire, that tamilians came begging for food? then u ppl should have had talents, and dominated the industry, rite? y couldnt you do that? think twice..
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by anish kumar on Feb 05, 2007 04:13 PM Permalink
dont know what you are talking abt. Bangalore does not get its electricity from Tamil Nadu. PS: since cauvery is born in our state, we decided how much we give to others.!!!
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by buska O on Feb 05, 2007 04:57 PM Permalink
Hahahah,,, then from whom you are getting electricity sire? and from you are getting food sire?
hey so case reult is out today well i have 3 imp points to share with you all people:-
1.If the result is not in favor of Karnataka, does it mean court is dishonest and our justice is doing cheating...take it other way round in case result would have been in favor of Karnataka would ppl here have said same thing "that they are cheating as its dishonest with us".
2.Thing is that , we go by our own perceptions and decision, if result is in our favor the desicion is 100 PERCENT accurate if not then its dishonet
3.If Karnataka was not having in Justice system why was it fighting case for 16 years..
I thank to GOD at least we ppl r not figithng for AIR atleast...
RE:RE:Hello Bangalore !
by Kathir N on Feb 05, 2007 04:26 PM Permalink
well said..all these people are half baked...let us undersatnd its India first & rest next
RE:Hello Bangalore !
by Swaminathan V on Feb 05, 2007 04:19 PM Permalink
What do you know about the cauvery dispute ? You know, how many farmers are loosing their life because of drought condition. What you will do with surplus water in your Dam. If anyone comes to your house, can you not give one cup of water? Why dont you understand that we are all Indians first. Dont be fanatics.
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by karthik parashar on Feb 05, 2007 04:37 PM Permalink
Dear fellow! TN is not asking for a cup of water!! Its asking for a huge share from my resource! And I'm not a fool to die just helping the sake of ungrateful people!
Posts about one india and one country! wrong mouths to hear it from!
Cauvery tribinal has given an excellent verdict, ofcours it is little short of expectation from Tamilnadu.
It is the duty of india and indians to protect the land of Tamilnadu which holds the major industries of India. This heavily industrialised state needs water for its industries and more importantly for farmers.
Kannadigas should accept this verdict for the sake of their own land. They should remember that for ELECTRICITY & FOOD ,they largely depend on TAMILNADU as do KERALA depends on TN.
Assume Tamilnadu denies electricity and food to kannadigas today. Immediately Karnataka will be in dark and kannadigas will be forced to buy food grains and vegetables for costliest price from other states.
Kannadigas should learn the art of sharing. If karnataka keeps denying water to TN, there will be oneday when Karnatak will be in dark and will be starving for food. But tamilians wont do that. We know the art of sharing.
I hope Kannadiga will not make their city called BANGALORE to live with CANDLES.
RE:Fantastic Decision for all Patriotic indians.
by on Feb 05, 2007 04:45 PM Permalink
Don't try to teach us patriotism...Sundaree.. You don't have any right to do so......just talked to some of the other state persons living in Tamilnadu...they will tell you how horribly you treat them...for you people India means Tamilndu..only...Stop this rubbish thinking....don't use the same old black mail of Power and Food..We have got the brains to manage the situation...more over if other states start thinking like your dirty thinking ...Where do you sell your products.....You should be ashamed that What ever electricity you produce it is lot lightning up you mind....
you have to be broad minded sundaree....atleast stop preaching this nonsense thing...
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by on Feb 05, 2007 04:16 PM Permalink
Kannadigas are always good and sharing. We have shared our Capital with TN people to live with. Accepting thier non-acceptance to learn kannada. TN Should known we have more TN people here in our capital than Kannadigas... It looks like TN has learnt to demand more for the things that they get for free... creating issues and allowing polical parties to take advantage and destroy the harmony between these two neibouring states. Lets be one and lets be together... Dont just be a Tamilian try to be a Indian First...
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by Sundaree on Feb 05, 2007 04:26 PM Permalink
As an patriotic indian, then why are you shouting against this verdict.
Karnataka and kannadigas FALSE patriotism is exposed here.
They are another anti-indian elements withing india.
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by MANIKANDAN S on Feb 05, 2007 04:41 PM Permalink
this is crazy, do you think bangalore would have flourished without the other state people. if bangalore is greta now , it is b coz of the contribution by other people , otherwise most of the bangaloreans would nor have b come crore pathi just b coz their ancestors had the land. c mon think in a right way and treat all equallly.
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by chandra shekar on Feb 05, 2007 04:12 PM Permalink
WE BUY ELECTRICITY FROM MAHARASTRA NOT FROM TN , I THINK YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF THIS
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by soni mathew on Feb 05, 2007 04:14 PM Permalink
DEAR YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MAHARASHTRA ALSO. THE KEY ISSUE IS U MUST LEARN THE ART OF SHARING RATHER THAN DRINKING BLOOD
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by Raghu SM on Feb 05, 2007 04:15 PM Permalink
WE DRINK BLOOD BUT YOU PEOPLE EAT FLESH...CANNIBALS
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by Raghu SM on Feb 05, 2007 04:14 PM Permalink
thats great chandru...some people talk about the matter they dont know..
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by Sundaree on Feb 05, 2007 04:23 PM Permalink
Okie lets TN disconnect electricity to karnataka. Lets see, if you get electricity from other states.
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by on Feb 05, 2007 04:47 PM Permalink
sUNDAREE SURELY YOU GET THE SHOCK...AND STOMACH ACHE!!!!!!!
RE:Fantastic Decision for all Patriotic indians.
by mahadeva prakash on Feb 05, 2007 04:13 PM Permalink
Dear Sundaree, Well , we can manage with candles in bangalore, but if all tamilians here are kicked out, tamilnadu will become on big refuge camp. So please keep that in mind
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by jayson moses on Feb 05, 2007 04:21 PM Permalink
We can also kick out Kanadicas, but we are matured and descent citizens of India
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by Sundaree on Feb 05, 2007 04:22 PM Permalink
Very simple. We will kick away all the kannadigas inside Tamilnadu.
Do you need that to happen??.
One more thing, for candles also you need to depend on TN. You dont manufacture that much candles in Karnataka. Pathetic situation in karnataka. I guess you kannadigas eat and sleep.
Without Tamilians and Andhrites there is no Bangalore and there is no IT. Mind it.
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by Rolen on Feb 05, 2007 04:37 PM Permalink
If electricity goes off..We can see only your TN people TEETH..You dnt even need e'city for food...U can live in jungles where veerpan was staying....Also about IT , all the tamilians migrate to b'lore even if their sick chennai has lot of jobs in IT...better try some fishing ...Wait for another tsunami...then u will not see trace of TN left again...
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by MANIKANDAN S on Feb 05, 2007 04:39 PM Permalink
this is crazy, do you think bangalore would have flourished without the other state people. if bangalore is greta now , it is b coz of the contribution by other people , otherwise most of the bangaloreans would nor have b come crore pathi just b coz their ancestors had the land. c mon think in a right way and treat all equallly.
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by SRINIVASA GOWDA on Feb 05, 2007 04:15 PM Permalink
HAHAHA GREAT REPLY. KANNAMAANNA HULIGHALU NAAVU. KENAKIDHARE SAAVU SAMIPISIDHAGHE. JAI CAUVERY MAATHE, JAI KARNATAKA MAATHE.
RE:Fantastic Decision for all Patriotic indians.
by Rolen on Feb 05, 2007 04:32 PM Permalink
Hey you Mr. or Mrs Sundaree...Firstly the whole of tamilnadu depends on karnataka for almost evrything. 25% of population in b'lore is from TN. Can u answer why?...They depend for evrything on k'ataka..Secondly get your facts and figures right.. TN depends on k'ataka for water, electricity and food..I have never seen a tamilian having a art of sharing..Moreover Tamil'ians have no right to say to integrate with INDIA since they can hardly speak any other language apart from their mother tongue...Also dont entertain national language 'Hindi'....Lot to say...
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by MANIKANDAN S on Feb 05, 2007 04:42 PM Permalink
this is crazy, do you think bangalore would have flourished without the other state people. if bangalore is greta now , it is b coz of the contribution by other people , otherwise most of the bangaloreans would nor have b come crore pathi just b coz their ancestors had the land. c mon think in a right way and treat all equallly.
Total volume of Water available in Cauvery basin area, including all 4 states TN, Karnataka, Pondicherry & Kerala is 740 TMC
TN pleaded for 560 TMC
Verdict:
TN - 419 TMC
Karnataka - 270 TMC
Pondicherry - 7 TMC
Kerala - 30 TMC
Please note that verdict does not say that Karnataka should release 419 TMC to TN. It only says that TN should get 419 TMC out of total of 740 TMC available in Cauvery. For TN to get 419 TMC, Karnataka needs to release only 192 TMC. TN gets rest of water from Cauvery water capturing area in TN itself. This is 13 TMC less than tribunals' interim award of 205 TMC.
Out of 192 TMC that TN gets from Karnataka, it has to release 30 TMC to Kerala and 7 TMC to Pondicherry.
So, unlike the media projects, verdict is not against Karnataka. It is more or less in line with interim verdict only.
Infact karnataka get more share than TN. Understand the reality..
RE:Understand the reality...
by manjunath k on Feb 05, 2007 04:20 PM Permalink
hey boss..dont twist the verdict....the reality is as per the interim what ever verdict 205 tmc was included of rain, released water..etc....now the released water is more than what prescribed in interim order.....
and also one must understand that TN water includes all sources...i.e released water, from rain..etc..
but k'taka's 270 is sum of water available from all resources....
in other words from reservoir k.taka can use 270 thats all...
Will All the Crazy People in TN talking Rubbish keep quiet. You Guys are aggrevating the Issue.
Dare not Call Karnad Names or Use U.N. Policy as an example. We have been giving you Water and We will continue to Share. We Know All Of us are Indians and All of us have equal rights to Water, AIR and Electricity.
Let Us Peacefully help each-other and let Life Go-on..
All your fightings only give upper hand to Political Manipulators to get to Power... which however is mis-used, irrespective of who ever gets to it.. Why do it at the Cost of Innocents & Public Properties..
RE:Cauvery: TNs Views
by Sundaree on Feb 05, 2007 04:14 PM Permalink
Will all the kaandigas keep quiet and be patriotic to the nation. If they are unpatriotic to the country they have live in Candles.
Boss..How long it will take for us stop ELECTRICTY to KARNATAKA. But we wont do that. you kannadigas are chota chota brothers to us. We know how these chota brothers will shout within a family. We are the family head and we know how to manage you.
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by praveen kumar on Feb 05, 2007 04:20 PM Permalink
@sundaree iam a tamilan ....with due respect i ask u to stop ur foolish gibberish here ...dont incite people for ur cheap publicity ....
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by v a on Feb 05, 2007 04:23 PM Permalink
Sundaree keeping quite is not a solution for all ..... When u start expressing ur openion atleast during the delicate situations like this try to be sensible and nonprovocative....
