RE:Inherent weaknes of Indian policies
by R B on Feb 04, 2007 04:25 AM Permalink
I agree with you that Afzal should be hanged. We don't need to show any more cowardice to prove that we've always been a soft state. No sane country would object against the hanging of a militant who tried to attack them. Soft and slow as always! WAKE THE HELL UP AND SHOW THAT WE CAN BE SWIFT AND TOUGH WITH DELIVERING JUSTICE! VERY TOUGH!
RE:Thackeray
by Nikhil P on Feb 04, 2007 02:15 AM Permalink
real blind hatred of muslims for humanity is killing hundreds of people everyday in this world. Worry about that otherwise get ready to get kicked out of india as more and more indians wake up.
RE:RE:Thackeray
by Pravin Gangatirkar on Feb 04, 2007 02:19 AM Permalink
Abhishek, By taking name of Shivaji you have shown what a cheap character you are. What do you know about Shivaji and Maharashtra? Because of cheap people like you this country had ruled by British and Muslims before that. I will just call you Gaddaar. Shame on You.
RE:RE:RE:Thackeray
by jagadeesh yarramreddy on Feb 04, 2007 06:17 AM Permalink
no place for this gaddaar abhishek in this country..due people like this we were ruled by all in the history..you a coward..death to you..
Well, in India why do we "agree" or "disagree" to "People" why dont we agree/disagree on policys ??
If Thackeray goes against south indians/north indians/non-maharashtrians it IS WRONG!!
But then Creating Jobs for the natives IS RIGHT!!
You cannot create jobs by hating people and divding them, only create vote banks.
If Kalam decides to spare a terrorist!! it IS WRONG!!!
If Gandhiji's "Non Cooperation Movement" helped weaken the British Rule economically it IS RIGHT!! If he signed a petition to partition the country it is "WRONG"!!
I think we should try and be more abstract instead of being blind followers... otherwise our country will always be ruled by people who exploit our biggest fears... The minorities fear the majorities and vice versa. Advocates of Regional languages fear that having a national language different from their mother-tongue will destroy their mother tongue. Advocates of National language fear that not teaching national langugage in schools will divide the country into pieces. But cant we learn this from history that what language you speak at home , what religion you follow at home and what dress you wear at home is your choice as an individual. Dont make it a community. There is only 1 community - Indian
RE:Justice - Open Your Eyes and Close your Mouths
by Southie on Feb 04, 2007 01:56 AM Permalink
The fact that we agreed to the Indian Union means that the country will not divide. We dont need a national language to prevent the country from dividing. It was our choice to join the union. But we joined in the belief that the union will have a place in the sun for all of us without discriminating us based on our culture and language. Having Hindi as sole the official language will decimate telugu and our culture
RE:RE:Justice - Open Your Eyes and Close your Mouths
by SteeveB on Feb 04, 2007 02:27 AM Permalink
hey southie, Why only Hindi ? It should be true with English also. But you double standard jerks will not do that. And one more thing, you did not decide to join union. India's first home minister sent army to capture Hyderabad. You know why, because you morons do not understand a word called co-existence. It's a 21st century, come out of your regional shell or atleast just wake up.
RE:RE:RE:Justice - Open Your Eyes and Close your Mouths
by Ravi Jagirdar on Feb 04, 2007 03:13 AM Permalink
SteeveB, you probably dont know history well... Hyderabad was not all of Andhra. And, on top of that, it was just the stupid nawab who wanted to be an independent nation, not the regular hyderabadi. Patel sent troops to oust the nawab, not to force the Hyderabadis into submission. We were already a part of India at heart.
As for Hindi, we have nothing against it. Visit Hyderabad to understand the meaning of co-existence. We dont raise slogans to kick out non-hyderabadis, like some other cities seem to be doing these days. We appreciate knowledge, and we seek it. That has always been our culture. Dont shoot off your mouth just because you have been given one.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Justice - Open Your Eyes and Close your Mouths
by Uttar Pradesh on Feb 04, 2007 04:02 AM Permalink
SteeveB is absolutely correct. These South Indians are not national minded. They want us to learn their language and inferior culture. We live in a democracy and the single majority spoken language is HINDI. They should learn up or ship out.
When you go overseas, you see all the Telugus hanging out together like communal minded people. its even hard to great them. Even if they know Hindi, they only speak Telugu infront of you. THey have no concept of India.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Justice - Open Your Eyes and Close your Mouths
by Nikhil P on Feb 04, 2007 06:00 AM Permalink
Read comments of the guy named "southie". He is telugu. His comments prove you wrong. Steve and other non-south indians are only responding to comments of southie and many others like him. It's easy to say politically correct things to us but why don't you say this to your narrow minded telugu friends here.
RE:RE:RE:Justice - Open Your Eyes and Close your Mouths
by Nikhil P on Feb 04, 2007 06:06 AM Permalink
Learning English is OK for Southie losers like him cause they prefer being slaves of white and black people over working with indian people hand in hand.
RE:RE:Justice - Open Your Eyes and Close your Mouths
by JM on Feb 04, 2007 02:26 AM Permalink
There are many replies here on Hindi, regional language and English etc. We need to be practical- we need Hindi and regional language for business At the end of the day we need to feed one billion people, so we need 3 billion meals everyday. Every language is important in its context. We cannot improve Telugu by condemning Hindi or improve Hindi by condemning English. If learning Urdu, Arabic (which are languages with very rich culture) or Chinese can get us ahead in the middle-east, bag their contracts and improve the living conditions of masses in India, then why not learn those languages.
Note that whether you want to call Hindi a national language or not, the fact remains that it is the highest spoken language in India and in most parts of India. So Hindi is the national language by default!
RE:RE:Justice - Open Your Eyes and Close your Mouths
by Nikhil P on Feb 04, 2007 02:08 AM Permalink
yeah, keep learning your former master's languag, you "southie". There are many non-hindi indian languages and cultures outside south india. People there don't think the way hateful and narrow-minded people like you think. Keep learning your former master's language - English, you narrow-minded people.
RE:RE:Justice - Open Your Eyes and Close your Mouths
by Sachin Panemangalore on Feb 04, 2007 04:45 AM Permalink
Hi Southie you said "Having Hindi as sole the official language will decimate telugu and our culture" Why do you think it will decimate telugu language and culture. For example in Mumbai in schools we have English as the first language, Hindi as the second language and Marathi as the third language. I speak Konkani at home, I speak Marathi with my childhood friends, I speak Hindi when I go to the market or sitting in an autorickshaw, I speak English in Office. Neither has it "decimated" my mothertongue, nor has it removed my Indian culture from me. When working in Bangalore , I tried learning the Kannada language. My room mate was Telugu , however born and bought up in Chennai, so I learnt a little bit of Telugu and Tamil from him. However we used to communicate mostly in Hindi at home. It is important to Bond as country men. Hindi is understood by most states in India. In my friends , sometimes I would get into an argument with people who would say "I Hate that language" , I heard Kannadigas say that about Tamil, Tamilians say that about Hindi, Telugu people say that about Kannada.. sometimes I ask myself..Whats Happening to us man!!! Are we going back to being different kingdoms again ?? do we still need the British to bond us ??
RE:RE:RE:Justice - Open Your Eyes and Close your Mouths
by Uttar Pradesh on Feb 04, 2007 04:57 AM Permalink
Mr. Panemangalore
the fact that you thought it was important to reply back to my message but not to the message of those who believe South Indians should be kicked out of Mumbai shows your nationalistic feeling. Of course, saying Hindi is not our national language warrants a reply but saying that south Indians dont belong to mumbai and should be kicked out of the city is OKAY. you are, of course, the great indian nationalist hope.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Justice - Open Your Eyes and Close your Mouths
by Sachin Panemangalore on Feb 04, 2007 06:02 AM Permalink
Hi Southie ( UttarPradesh impersonater :D ) I have been born and bought up in Mumbai/Maharashtra/India. If someone says I dont belong there will it mean I really dont belong there? People who start this issue are usually political . People who support these people are insecure of their jobs they are insecure of their livlyhood being snatched by immigrants. This is true anywhere be it Mumbai-Maharashtra or Bangalore-Karnataka or recently a spate of cases happened in Assam. The people are not your enemy , the inscurity is. If there were enough jobs all over India, would people migrate from their native villages to the Urban cities ??? Behind every problem is an insecurity...and inside every man is a devil who we will tell us that we are in danger from the guy living next door. kill him before he kills us. The point is, are you strong enough to say that I am my country... ?
RE:RE:RE:RE:Justice - Open Your Eyes and Close your Mouths
by Uttar Pradesh on Feb 04, 2007 05:19 AM Permalink
hey i didnt write that. can a screenname be used by two people.
RE:RE:Justice - Open Your Eyes and Close your Mouths
by SteeveB on Feb 04, 2007 02:19 AM Permalink
are you nuts ? Hindi is THE national language. Please come back to planet earth and enlighten yourself with quality called knowledge.
I think that there is difference between forgiveness, tolerance and courage. india is the country for forgiveness and tolerence, but no excuse or even let this fellow who attacked the parilament be alive for one more day is cowerdise. Bal thakarey may be good or bad 9god knows) but he speaks truth and the truth is always bitter. kalam should act fast and execute this fellow immediately.
RE:Kalam
by kumar on Feb 04, 2007 01:14 AM Permalink
I want to know why there was not any outcry when Thackeray wanted to kick out all South Indians in the early 90s. This, of course, went towards North Indians. Why in a country that prides itself on equality, do we have a person who is a communal minded. The sad part is that there was no outcry whatsoever. Why, because when he wanted to kick out Tamilians, no one cared because its only Tamilians. When he wanted to kick out North Indians, he was doing it only to the poor and no one cares about the poor.
RE:RE:RE:Kalam
by Southie on Feb 04, 2007 01:48 AM Permalink
I am telugu and not from Sri Lanka. How dare you say kick out all South Indians from India. Your screen name is Saddam, is your ancestors from India or from Arabia. No one is pure Indians as are South Indians.
Wait, till we kick you out of Bangalore and Hyderabad. Its the north indians who bring bad smell to these cities.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Kalam
by Saddam H on Feb 04, 2007 01:51 AM Permalink
See this tells that southie are anti north indians and regional minded southi is proving my point. How can he tll that he will kick out north indians from bangalore as they bring smell?
Yes the south indians are pure indians. The pure rascals of first order, and regional minded very pure.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Kalam
by Nikhil P on Feb 04, 2007 02:19 AM Permalink
agree with you saddam. Until now they used to abuse lower caste people like nowhere else. Now that is banned by the government so they hate other indians. By the way Hyderabad belongs to pakistan of not to the Indian union. So the loser Southie can dream on.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Kalam
by Nikhil P on Feb 04, 2007 02:12 AM Permalink
Reachest states in india are Gujarat, Maharastra and Punjab. None of them speak Hindi but they are not hateful like you losers.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Kalam
by SteeveB on Feb 04, 2007 02:34 AM Permalink
southie, your nizam wanted state to join with pakistan and himself ran away there. Why should not we kick anti-nationals like you to pakistan. We can have more peace and less population.
RE:RE:RE:Kalam
by on Feb 04, 2007 01:52 AM Permalink
I agree, we need to start a movement kick out all anti-national minded people to their own countries. East Indians to China, Kashmiris to Pakistan and South Indians to Sri Lanka. They can then leave our land pure of Indians and anyone who accepts the unity of India.
Bal Thackery is right. My full support to him. Mr. Kalam or rightful people in high position take stern action against Islamic Terrorist. Politcians should stop minority Appeasement policies and put an end to Ismalic menace fast becoming a bane to our country.
RE:Bal Thackery is right
by Morpheus on Feb 04, 2007 12:46 AM Permalink
thackrey can only disrupt country's balance. Bombay is on the way of loosing its balance. We will see the result in coming 2-3 years. Thanks to SHIVSENA .......
RE:RE:Bal Thackery is right
by Nikhil P on Feb 04, 2007 12:52 AM Permalink
muslims can only disrupt country's balance. Not only Bombay, the whole country is on the way of losing its balance. We have already been seeing bomb blasts every few months. Thanks to muslims.
RE:Bal Thackery is right
by neeraj menon on Feb 04, 2007 12:54 AM Permalink
well said, ravi. so true , these politician playing the minority appeasement game, when the true majority is suffereing. India is a democray, which means majority (not minority) should rule.
A man who has been barred from voting is talking about a Great Man who has made our Country a nuclear power. What did Thackeray do for the Nation or for tht instance Marathis(his so called favourites).. Mumbai riots. Dr. Kalam is a Muslim who knows and respects the Hindu vedas, epics much better than Thackeray. Thackeray is just a drunkard who thrives on his loose tongue-now by communalising the President. I'm surprised to see people agreeing to the blah blah of Thackeray.
RE:Thackeray nothing before Dr. Kalam's Stature
by Morpheus on Feb 04, 2007 12:33 AM Permalink
i agree. Thackrey is nothing but a mere needle in a haystack. Who cares! We should ignore his comments and support Dr. Kalam. Few more years to go my friend; in next 4-5 years all this garbage would be cleaned off naturally and country would look more beautiful. A road to become a great nation is to ignore people like thackrey. So guys keep it up ignore the ignorant!!!
RE:RE:Thackeray nothing before Dr. Kalam's Stature
by Vas on Feb 04, 2007 12:51 AM Permalink
I agree that Dr. Kalam is the best of men. He is an asset to the nation and a true patriot, and a gem.
But, I hope by 'garbage' you also meant ManMohan Singh, Sonia Gandhi and other stooges in the present government. Getting rid of all those as well will result in ultimate cleanliness of the country, and that's when the real progress of India will begin!
RE:RE:Thackeray nothing before Dr. Kalam's Stature
by Nikhil P on Feb 04, 2007 12:55 AM Permalink
The country can't look beautiful with too many violant muslims
RE:RE:Thackeray nothing before Dr. Kalam's Stature
by Saddam H on Feb 04, 2007 01:42 AM Permalink
Hey Morpich you too are old and leaving in 4-5 years? May be that is why you said that garbage will go with you of course!!!
The sad story still continues. I fail to understand why we Indians have a tendency to look all incidents through the lens of religious divide.
If common people like you and me had said the same thing, it would have been forgotten in a short while. Anywhere in the world, the opinions of power weilding people are influential in setting the minds of the masses. The very fact that it comes from Thackeray has set the ball rolling. Over-interpretation and mis-interpretation arising from prejudiced mentality has pushed the 'ball' in the wrong direction.
It is good that the Afzal affair has been refreshed in public memory during these elections, which otherwise would have been covered by the media only during its anniversary. Isn't it is the duty of every citizen to protect the best interests of the nation?
Some body must come out to say Kalam is wrong.He may be good sciencest but now he is on the supreme post. Each and every time we can not say he is best sciencest. That is o.k but the supreme post must behave boldly like a Lion. In my views Bal Thakere should be our next President,....what do you think?
RE:RE:Oly One
by Ravi K on Feb 04, 2007 12:41 AM Permalink
Morpheus...you are Christian i believe.. I came accross several christians in india who are trying to push their religion to my. They try to convert every hindu friends they have. Can you stop them? They are really trouble us.
RE:RE:RE:Oly One
by Morpheus on Feb 04, 2007 12:50 AM Permalink
this is where the country's root problem lies they keep pointing at each other and not accept the fact. My friend you must see MAHABHARATA and learn something from YUDHISTIR so as everyone has to except thackrey because he cannot learn anything.
RE:Oly One
by neeraj menon on Feb 04, 2007 12:57 AM Permalink
well said. we should have Modi or Thackeray as the top man in India. Not president but the PM. it is PM who decides what happens. Kalam is only a rubber stamp.
RE:Oly One
by Saddam H on Feb 04, 2007 01:20 AM Permalink
I think your veiws are correct. The sad part is indians dont know the differences between good leader and good administrator. It is ironic that botht the highest post is occupied with the past Goverment employee. Both the PM and PREsident may be good person or good administrator but they cannot be good leader. In that respect Bal thakerey is the leader, good bad or ugly!
