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good article,rediff
by stalin on Dec 31, 2007 09:24 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

A good article that clearly tells
the facts
Now people won't get fooled by tyhe hype surrounding this issue
Enemies, leave India and don't try to take away our land.

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RE:good article,rediff
by piyush bakshi on Dec 31, 2007 09:30 PM  Permalink
aap ne bol diya toh jarror maan lenge terrorists aur secular fundamentalists.. aakhir aap stalin jo ho.

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any ideas to combat the fundamentalists
by piyush bakshi on Dec 31, 2007 08:10 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

i would like to initiate a discussion on whether there is anything that indians can do as a people to combat and fight the congress, islamic fundamentalism, and the secular fundamentalists in the media..

my suggestions
1) make our point of view clear to the channels when they ask us to call or sms.
2) question them when they ask us to call or sms.
3) educate others on the dangers of secular fundamentalism by blogging and information exchange.
4) educate ourselves on the failures of the congress (there are so many)
5) push for accountability on a local administration level
6) become aware of the extent to which bangladeshis have infiltrated india (there are millions of them here since the 71' war in places like assam, other NE states, bengal, and mumbai) they breed terrorists
7) stringently oppose minortyism, if need be we shud come together and take the govt to court

i know all these things require effort and take time, but if we do not put the effort now and sacrifice some time and money at this period, in the coming years we should be prepared to sacrifice a lot more.

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RE:any ideas to combat the fundamentalists
by N Krishnan on Dec 31, 2007 09:54 PM  Permalink
hi piyush,

your points very well taken. but one small correction. time for discussion is already passed. it is now time for concrete action. i for one will join you in your action by giving my time and contribution if you are willing to take the lead.

we have to save our motherland fronm the false secularists congresswalas, commies, karunanidhis and the christian funded medias.

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RE:any ideas to combat the fundamentalists
by Srini on Jan 01, 2008 02:21 PM  Permalink
Agree with you 100%.
Also stop patronising biased channels, the fall in viewership takes care. NDTV the most biased channel is already on the down swing. Even IBN is biased but better amongst the two.

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RE:any ideas to combat the fundamentalists
by Srini on Jan 01, 2008 02:03 PM  Permalink
Agreed with you 100%.
One more point, stop patronising such channels, the fall in their viewership is a sure shot way of they being paid back. NDTV, which is probably the most biased of the channels is definately going through the phase of decline. IBN too is biased but between the it is better.

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by Yusuf Khan on Dec 31, 2007 08:00 PM  Permalink 

"If one goes by the logic of Partition, then at least the Kashmir valley,should have reverted to Pakistan"

what about Punjab ??? It was a Hindu majority state. You can have Kashmir, give us Punjab so the Kashmiri hindus can live there. How come nobody in Pak remembers that ???

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by Yusuf Khan on Dec 31, 2007 07:52 PM  Permalink 

but also the ultimate weapon to re-assert Islam's moral superiority ???

moral superiority with a weapon ? Islam is not morally superior, people as individuals are morally superior or inferior depending on how they chose to live their life. Maybe the stupid woman should have read the Bible, the Guru Grant Sahib or the Bhagwat Gita,before making such an ill informed and ignorant decision. Since when did Oxford have a Masters degree in ignorance and xenophobia. Thats all we need, more arrogant and intolerant muslims, Allah save us from ourselves. Maybe he just did.

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Call a spade a spade
by Ravikumar on Dec 31, 2007 07:47 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

RE:Call a spade a spade!
by Sami on Dec 31, 2007 07:19 PM
"The people of India are with you in your struggle against both military rule and terrorism"

@sami
People of India tum aur benazir ko likh ke diye the kya ?

benazir hu akbar
inshallah


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RE:Call a spade a spade
by jihadi antakwadi on Dec 31, 2007 11:30 PM  Permalink
Benazir got her just desserts. I do not know why our indian govt and sickular media are making so much fuss like nincompoops. Everytime in India terrorists exploded bombs and killed innocent people, paki tv channels were playing joyous music and did not even report it on news. I think we should boycott our media funded from arab land and send this antiIndian/hindu upa government packing. quettonko laat maar ke bhagana chahiye.

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Antinational Manmohan
by Joseph Fernendes on Dec 31, 2007 07:39 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

India is the only country in the world to have ANTINATIONALS as Prime Ministers and Presidents for decades together.

Jago Indians, do away with Sonia, her SLAVES, Communists and all those people who think about Pakistan and China while living in India.


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RE:Antinational Manmohan
by Sahadevan KK on Dec 31, 2007 08:59 PM  Permalink
very very very true. Hang the bloody PM.

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RE:Antinational Manmohan
by Rathin Kothiyal on Jan 01, 2008 10:25 AM  Permalink
Yeah, very smart. Kill Bhutto and then hang our PM! Jaago Indians - come out to the streets and start rioting like your neighbours! After all we are the same.

I am always amazed that ppl such as yourself as so easily moved by rhetoric. No wonder our politicians have been to manipulate one and all!

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RE:Antinational Manmohan
by Meh on Dec 31, 2007 09:19 PM  Permalink
yes, very good.....burn 11 churches in orisssa and kill minority. Is this what RSS has taught you. Your hatred will kill the country. No country can survive if haterd exists. Need to get out of all thses issues which politicians have created to get your votes and stay in power

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PM should talk sensitively!Not for the vote!But for the country!
by rajesh sarkar on Dec 31, 2007 07:28 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Benazir never had a good thought for India.Her existance in Pakistan Politics was based on anti-Indian slogan.Though we Indian never diserve her death like this!Still I believe any countries PM should not be based on narrow views of religion and fundamentalist principle!It's not only opertunistic politics but also they write their ruin on that!Benzir was a leader for narrow fundmetalist and having connection with fundamentalist!. The fundamentalism responsible for her horrible death!So let India and Pakistan forget about the fundamentalism in their politics.Let us come out as a economic giant power for the future!Let us avoid the fundamentalist forces!But I doubt about Pakistan!How much they are concern about their development!They are very much busy with development of fundamentalism and terrorism!It can't be very good for a country!Look after your nation development!Not after your and ur party's development!Don't be jelous about each other!Let India and Pakistan compete for economic development!Our PM apreciation for Benazir should be reconsidered!If PM support pakistan he ll get the muslim vote that's should not be happen with Indian Muslim!Muslim may be their religion but their mother is India!So come out of religion and let us judge the countries politician in the standard of development!Damn their narrow policies to differentiate humanbeings on the basis of religion.Religion is created by human!Human have the right to rebuilt it!Think about how many Indian get proper

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RE:PM should talk sensitively!Not for the vote!But for the country!
by Joseph Fernendes on Dec 31, 2007 07:39 PM  Permalink
India is the only country in the world to have ANTINATIONALS as Prime Ministers and Presidents for decades together.

Jago Indians, do away with Sonia, her SLAVES, Communists and all those people who think about Pakistan and China while living in India.


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RE:PM should talk sensitively!Not for the vote!But for the country!
by Meh on Dec 31, 2007 09:19 PM  Permalink
yes, very good.....burn 11 churches in orisssa and kill minority. Is this what RSS has taught you. Your hatred will kill the country. No country can survive if haterd exists. Need to get out of all thses issues which politicians have created to get your votes and stay in power


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English Language media are the most communal and hypocrite
by Sivam Kumaran on Dec 31, 2007 07:21 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

These media are being watched by educated middle class people. We can easily boycott them if we have a will. We should hit them where it hurts them most, i.e. money.
Boycott them any way possible. Then only these anti-nationals, Pseudo secularists will come to their senses.


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RE:English Language media are the most communal and hypocrite
by Classified on Dec 31, 2007 07:33 PM  Permalink
You are right, we need a mass movement in India now to spread the word around, so that gullible viewers are not taken for a ride by the media.

Indians should learn to take pride in their country and its heritage

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RE:English Language media are the most communal and hypocrite
by rajeev on Dec 31, 2007 07:40 PM  Permalink
we should start a campaign to boycot these media...a blog wld be a first step in this direction...

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good article
by cyber world on Dec 31, 2007 07:16 PM  Permalink 

really a nice article about the pakistan leaders how they view india. congrats for rediff for publishing it. let our POLITICIANS learn this before expressing anything about them

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Atlast a Good Article in Rediff.
by Ramachandra A N on Dec 31, 2007 07:11 PM  Permalink 

Atlast a Good article.
BTW Why have you not mentioned about PVN's tit for tat antics, which bough the terrorism to low levels in Kashmir?
For every one death in the valley, many bombs used to go off in Karatchi and Madam Bhutto who could not handle the pressue, went slow on Kashmir.


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