You can not say that Benazir is a wicked woman while Musharaff is noble (: These people are dangerous. They are ulcer like to the world and not just India. But remember the old adage. An enemy who is intelligent is far better than a rogue or a fool. Musharaff is a foolish person who masterminded the Kargil war. He behaved like a simple rowdy sheeter, who barge in and try to create trouble without knowing the conequences. A police man would kick him with boots , beaten up and humiliated, then and only then the rowdy would learn the consequences!! Benazir would not have started Kargil war on India, she was intelligent enough to know the consequences. She even told how she reacted when Musharaff as a general under her planned an attack and take Srinnagar one morning !!. Benazir (according to her interview) immediately asked "Mr.Musharaff what would you do next morning"? at which the idiotic Mushraff was puzzled and retorted saying " what do you mean?" With Benazir's death Pakistan lost a hope to become a democratic country. Now the only eventuality is that Pakiastan is sure to become an another Afganisthan! It not good to have another Afganisthan which is dependent on mercenrires and opium cultivation as our neighbour. About the kashmir ? what about our local muslims in kashmir who drove away thir own Kashmiris , the pundits ?? You can not blame Pakistan or its leaders for everything that happens in Kashmir. What about the role of US and some Europian countrie
RE:Benazir a wicked woman?
by virendra gupta on Jan 19, 2008 08:14 PM Permalink
Venuraja, u r right, we cannot blame Pakistan or its leaders for whatever happens in kashmir. we have to rather blame our own leaders for their weakness. Now they are all fallingbforward to foolishly praise Benazir (as this article has rightly brught out the facts) without thinking anything. Similarly they play politics .they have no courage. now no body is talking of the article which has given J& K the special privileges. abolish the special privileges and integrate it with the country and face the things boldly. then see the difference. virendra
Mr. Francois Goutier, Yes we all do know that Benazir was never a pro-indian. Infact she was quite the opposite. The pain is not about her death, but about the loss of the little hope that millions of innnocent Pakistanis nurtured with her participating in the elections. It is about humanity and not about how will India gain or loose because of her presence. This situation with India having neighbours like Pakistan will always remain with or without Benazir. I can never imagine Pakistanis, Afghanistanis, etc ever raising to such a modern thinking for the larger interest of the region to ever unite and be called 'United States of South Asia.' I guess one is driven to act by the rules of the neighbourhood, and that is the situation for my country India. We are progressing in every possible way, be it economic, social, mental, scientific etc. But Some of our fundamentalist brothers can never stop getting instigated in all the wrong ways to this Hindu-Muslim issue because of the way people in other countries behave. And then they end up burning our own buses, our own people's property, our own government buildings, bought by the heavy tax we have paid. As for the mysery of the innocent pakistani common citizens is concerned, I know it is a reality that they are the worst sufferers. I have close friends in London where I live, of Pakistani origin. Some of them where actually in Pakistan for a vacation when Benazir got killed. People in Pakistan have killed themselves at her death
RE:A Spade of course is a Spade
by Sameer B. Maganji on Jan 17, 2008 06:51 AM Permalink
Continued from above: because they lost that glimer of hope with her murder. If someone like Benazir, who was supported by the world's 2 most powerful countries, was favoured by the world's most powerful man to be given the highest level of security, and was surrounded by the media of the whole globe, can get wiped out in no time, then what about the common man in Pakistan. Can any one of us imagine the amount of fear the people of Pakistan are living under with each passing moment? Being and Indian I cant refrainn from feeling sorry about her death, not just for the sake of her 3 children but for the millions of Pakistanis. Being Indian is about being forgiving. But that does not mean it is about being off-guard. With Pakistan and the likes as your neighbour no country can afford to be off-guard, with any prime-minister in power.
Mr. Francois Goutier, most of educated Indians know about the late benazir Bhutto's speeches and her views about India. But there exists a party called Congress(I) in India, which is more pro Pak and less pro India. Unfortunately, it rules India today. I am an unfortunate citizen of this country, which is actually ruled by an Italian lady. Your article was better than any other Indian journo. Thanx, you did a great job. A great article.
Mr Francois, I dont know when will Indians understand. I had a friedn who in a party was saying how he felt so bad about tht death of bhutto. I was so upset and could not control and took him to task (This guy was an Indian living in US). and a Desi party, I felt when will these so called intellectuals wake up and see the truth and atleast call a spade a spade instead of being diplomatic and being politically correct as the news media is saying western educated lady. I really took him to task and I told about how her own brother got killed by mr 10%. I pray and see when my own brethern become confident and do what is necessary instead of saying yes sir for a whaite guy.
RE:Pakis Should Throw Out Islam and Integrate with India
by vijay on Jan 16, 2008 07:42 AM Permalink
Mr. Gaultier you are the only one who deserves a bharat ratna.
Rightly you said Mr. Francois Gautier. Any leader of Pakistan can survive politically only if he use to abuse India and propogate against India amongst the public of Pakistan and more to please the leaders to get the support. Only because they do so in a fear that if they will not oppose India they will be outcasted and as they suppose themselves as weak nation against India they use to attack indirectly and use to increase unrest in the region. Unfortunately Indian remained so liberal that it is presumed that anything wrong to India doesnt matter they will be forgiven. The statement of P.M. certify the same. Statements like Mr. Manmohan Singh made encourages the evil laying very close i.e. pakistan no perhaps its mischievous leader. Deepak Srivastava
We hope ur statements made above are correct as we as common public has no way t verify it. Since the day Bhutto assasinated all the media (including Indian and world media) are singing Bhutto praise, honesty, fearlessness. It is a custom in our Indian culture not to say bad something about anyone who passed recently. But it doesn't mean we forget the wrongdids of him/her. If she has created problems for India then our PM should never praise them. We should never forget one thing, "Regardless of who rules Pakistan or is oppostion leader there, Pakistan is always a enemey of India."
IF SOMEONE STABS YOU AT BACK, HE IS BACK STABBER. IF HE STABS YOU SECOND TIME, YOU ARE FOOL.
RE:Calling spade a spade
by karthik on Jan 15, 2008 01:50 PM Permalink
What the author said was write. It has been documented many times and even appeared in our newspapers (offcourse a very small mention in the inner pages that too very indirectly)that benazir is the one who gave rise to taliban, islamic terror in kasmir.
RE:Calling spade a spade
by Meenakshi Kumar on Jan 16, 2008 12:42 AM Permalink
Whu did none of you accoust her while in flesh and blood or during the starting of insurgency.
It is a very well written article- congratulations to Mr.Francois. Our PM's utterance only reiterates the fact that he is a puppet. Even the last speech of Benazir before she died was against India. For fetching votes in Pakistan the best thing is India bashing and the poor Pakis get a high when they listen to it. They tried four times to fight us and miserably lost- they still have an illusion that they can do it. It is corrupt leaders like Benazir (for that matter show a good one in Pak) who are the root cause for the extremism in India. As the old adage- Live by the sword, die by the sword should be changed in Benazir's case to - Live by terrorism, die by terrorism.
I congratulate Francois Gautier on bringing to light an altogether different perspective on the slain leader. However, I am doubtful in connection with his last line: "History will tell". Unfortunately, history is written by the powerful, not the subaltern, and in today's world, the pseudo-secular press that my fellow readers have alluded to is what calls the shots. Bhutto will probably live on in history as what the global press has glorified her as: A Martyr for Democracy.
RE:RE:Touche, Monsieur Gautier
by satish p on Jan 14, 2008 10:57 AM Permalink
Her interview is again an eyeopener to political idiots of our country, that when you get a chance to push, you have to shove it. We has so many golden opportunities to finish this scrooge once and for all. During Bangladesh war we had 1 lak POWs by which we could have even bargained POK back. But we didnt. After all we have to keep our sicular, dove of peace of image to world. In 1948 if Nehru had given even 48 hrs to army there wouldnt have been a POK and the resulting terrorism. Why, even during partition if we insisted all muslims should be taken to Pakistan Jinna wouldnt have wanted Pakistan.
RE:RE:RE:Touche, Monsieur Gautier
by jagadish achar on Jan 14, 2008 11:03 AM Permalink
I dont know why india is so smooth on her side,why cant we be china or pakistan which they are very much tough on every aspects,we whould stop saying bahi-bhai with chaina and brothers with pakistan,we should show them that we wont bulge to any body then only we can able to stop our india from dividing.our politicians should learn from these countries.
RE:Touche, Monsieur Gautier
by jagadish achar on Jan 14, 2008 11:00 AM Permalink
WHY CANT OUR PUNDITS GO BACK AND LIVE IN THIRE ANCESTRAL LAND,CANT THEY FIGHT THOSE TERROISTS,IT IS BEETER FOR THEM TO GO BACK TO KASHMIR AND LIVE THERE.
