Karunanidhi is encouraged by developments in Pakistan. He has already crowned Stalin as next CM. His next step is to name Stalin's son as the next DMK youth wing chief. The process of looting TN's wealth will go on smoothly.
RE:KARUNANIDHI NOW PLANNING TO NAME HIS GRANDSON AS DMK YOUTH CHIEF..
by Anand Krish on Dec 30, 2007 11:44 PM Permalink
Stalin wants to settle down im massage parlors of pattaya/Bangkok
RE:KARUNANIDHI NOW PLANNING TO NAME HIS GRANDSON AS DMK YOUTH CHIEF..
by MGR Fan on Dec 30, 2007 11:50 PM Permalink
God save Bangkok... anyway Azhagiri and Kanimozhi can take care of DMK family business in north and south respectively.
RE:KARUNANIDHI NOW PLANNING TO NAME HIS GRANDSON AS DMK YOUTH CHIEF..
by Patrick on Dec 31, 2007 12:26 AM Permalink
Stalin does not charge much of a commission they say. Merely 20% of the project cost. If you went to his dad, you could lose all your money.
RE:serious matter
by MGR Fan on Dec 30, 2007 11:30 PM Permalink
Jehadis having nukes is indeed very dangerous. But one thing you dint recognize; the jehadis spend their energy fighting each other. With Nukes, pakistan's extreme elements may rather pick a fight with Shia Iran. The jehadis hate each other more tha nothers. Right now India cant do anything but wait and watch. In anycase, Pak cant wag a figer against India, our Nukes plus missiles are more than superior to Pak. Even jehadis arent fools they know they wont exist if they press nuke button.
RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by aaaa on Dec 30, 2007 11:28 PM Permalink
but can the wives (legal/illegal) can run? Also what about le*bian partners?
RE:RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by MGR Fan on Dec 30, 2007 11:39 PM Permalink
what about a CM who is having 2 wives , both alive, which is against law? should he not be behind bars? Now dont bring things like ancient kings having multiple wives, this is 21st century and you follow today's law in today's era. Karuna should first be in jail
RE:RE:RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by aaaa on Dec 30, 2007 11:41 PM Permalink
When did I support anyone in particular you iditoa savant.
RE:RE:RE:RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by MGR Fan on Dec 30, 2007 11:44 PM Permalink
The very fact that you angrily replied to the message on Karuna shows where your loyalty is.. you are just like a lap dog that charges on signal from master. Grow up and think for yourself, dont be blind follower of your yellow towel satan leader
RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by aaaa on Dec 30, 2007 11:59 PM Permalink
very beautiful democracy in action right here. Acusing people based on presumption and not trying to understand where they come from and simply reporting "the" message which highlights that as abuse. Very nice and classic.
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by aaaa on Dec 30, 2007 11:48 PM Permalink
I am loyal to myself that is it. I am not an indian passport holder at all but simply care for the blo*dy people in a country of my birth.
RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by aaaa on Dec 30, 2007 11:53 PM Permalink
I am loyal to myself that is it. I am not an indian passport holder at all but simply care for the blo*dy people in a country of my birth.
Highlighting this message as abuse is simply copout strategy and very very narrow mindset.
RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by MGR Fan on Dec 31, 2007 12:00 AM Permalink
Hey aaa, you are not a Indian(as you declared here) , why are you wasting time defending Karuna, and you have no right to talk about "blo*dy" ppl, first give up your abusive and racist mentality an dlearn humility.
RE:RE:RE:RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by MGR Fan on Dec 31, 2007 12:01 AM Permalink
Your messages are reported abusive because you called your nation of birth as "blo*dy country".
Stop abusing India, this is Indian forum , you have many other forums where you can preach DMK style racism and separatism non stop.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by aaaa on Dec 31, 2007 12:10 AM Permalink
1) Bloody is not rac*sm. 2) FOr the last time When did I defend DMK and their policies. can you find me one. I continue to lambast all politics and the people who vote for them.
And it wud be nice for people to talk with rational thought and coherence instead of presumption and verbose.
RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by MGR Fan on Dec 30, 2007 11:43 PM Permalink
That is exactly your case Man, so why dont you switch off that free TV set given by the Yellow towel leader and learn about the bigger world around u?
RE:RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by MGR Fan on Dec 30, 2007 11:48 PM Permalink
aaaa, you are just another emotionally charged DMK supporter, i have seen thousands and you people never grow up beyond the liquor bottles and chiken biryanis that you get free in those DMK party meetings. Grow up and try to understand what Tamils want. Only 25% voted for your yellow towel leader last election,and next election it will be even less. And i dont care a damn about what you think,what is there to worry about a pervert who just worships anoter sex pervert cum atheist for sake of money? Get Lost
RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by aaaa on Dec 30, 2007 11:45 PM Permalink
you dont get it do you:? Get out of your cocoon. Do you know anything about being consistant in your remarks rather then siding with one blindly. Even after I clearly said I dont give a hoots ass about anything/anyone you think that i support DMK? Kudos to your thinking. Keep it up. I will refrain from posting to your verbals from hereon.
RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by MGR Fan on Dec 30, 2007 11:38 PM Permalink
Typical DMK supporter's attempt to divert the debate. Now if you are ready to abuse MGR , remember that we have lot more to talk about your yellow towel leader and also about his sons. So please shut up or be prepared to face torrent of truth
RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by aaaa on Dec 30, 2007 11:40 PM Permalink
Oh right; if i say anything against your favorite leader/party then call me with what you know.
If you care to ridicule children taking on then you got to be fair wrt to anyone closely associated with the leadership period. Get it.
RE:RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by MGR Fan on Dec 30, 2007 11:46 PM Permalink
Closely associated and children are not same. People work closely in profession that is not same as being a family. You work with your female boss in office that doesnt mean that she is your family member. Understand that.
Periyar and Annadurai were close, but that dint mean they had sexual relation right?
Of course Karuna is close to Ki Veeramani of DMk and they may be having a "physical" tie, but that doesnt mean every body is like that. dont try to generalise things right..
RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by MGR Fan on Dec 30, 2007 11:15 PM Permalink
infact there is practically no party in India that is devoid of dynasty influence. Left parties are to be ignored because Left parties represent China (and not India).
RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by Patrick on Dec 30, 2007 11:23 PM Permalink
Can you name a BJP dynasty in the center ( not the states ) or in the admk leadership. I agree with you about the communists. We still have hope against dynasty politics. For the only five years that congress did not have a dynasty, PVN did a fantastic job for the nations economy
RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by MGR Fan on Dec 30, 2007 11:26 PM Permalink
Yes, BJP till now is not dynastic . AIADMK is totally non dynastic. They are the few exceptions. Yes Congress party was not dynastic, and PVN was generally did good work under difficult conditions. I think Sonia should consider slowly freeing congress from her grip and allow good leaders to flourish, wish someone advised her on that.
RE:RE:BAN CHILDREN OF POLITICIANS FROM CONTESTING ELECTIONS..
by MGR Fan on Dec 30, 2007 11:27 PM Permalink
I mean COngress was not dynastic from 1991 to 1998 .
RE:RE:DEMOCRATIC CO.LTD.
by Purav Shah on Dec 30, 2007 11:22 PM Permalink
Thanks buddy, I know I am one of our millions who feel this way. But what is the solution?. Our local leaders are in pocket of these politicians and they use our bias to be elected, (we vote for them!) Hope we can come out of this, and there will be real progress in South Asia.
RE:DEMOCRATIC CO.LTD.
by Jungle Boy on Dec 30, 2007 11:46 PM Permalink
The solution is already there ... Rahul Gandhi is getting a Colombian to rule over us .... hahahaha .... na rahega democracy na rahegi tujhe pareshani
This shows that South Asians essentially have a slave mentality. It was Maharajas, Sultans, Khans, Mughals who ruled various parts of undivided India. They passed on the mantle to their children and public fell on their feet. It was British who civilized Indians and taught them self respect but 100 years of British was not enough for us.
RE:Comedy after Tragedy
by Anand Krish on Dec 30, 2007 11:32 PM Permalink
Before British came It was Maharajas and Mugals who picked up women at will and raped them. They used to maintain harems with so many women not to speak of use and throw women.
It was Brits who brought rule of law and civiliaztion to our country. British were the best thing to have ever happened in India's history. Indians should be forever grateful to English. Kyon Bhiayya samj gaye? Imagine some more british influence n UP and Bihar or you feel laloos, mayawatis, mulyam yadavs would be better?
and she was accusing musharraf of trying to cling to power. This second and third generation politicians that talk about democracy must be cut from the money they have locked up and win the affection of the people just as they should in a democracy. 19 yrs old, talks of democracy as the best revenge. I mean, rahul says the similar things . remember he said " I could have been PM if i wanted to". Do these people not even twitch when talking about democracy. SHAME ON US for not putting rules and laws in place to implement freedom of leadership to bring new ideas and power to the people.
I am sorry he lost his mother the way he did, but there ends the pity. He will win the elections on a sympathy vote. Can you imagine him pulling the levers of power in a subcontinent that has 500 yr issues and abject poverty and violence as a way of life. My God. it is a Disaster
We normally define democracy as the govt of the people by the people and for the people.It is been apparent for some time that this is sentimental drivel. The more appropriate defintion of democracy as practised in real life is that it is in the nature of a competition between a few elite groups for control of a nation for a defined period. In south asian countries however we would have to search for yet another definition: democracy as a myth where dynasties attempt to gain legitimacy by an appeal for public sanction of their rule.But this time the myth of Benazir as a democratic figure has been well and truly burst.well she can join the hallowed revolutionary who ruled as long as he could walk and then handed over power to his brother. Personally,i prefer the U S neocons to the hyprocrazy of our socialist pseudos.
RE:dynastic politics
by yohayoha on Dec 30, 2007 10:52 PM Permalink
We should have a amendment to constitution to ban children of politicians from becoming politicians then only we will see new leaders.
RE:dynastic politics
by Jungle Boy on Dec 30, 2007 11:02 PM Permalink
You have Congress (Gandhi parivar, Scindia et al) ,Communists (Karats - are they related?) and DMK in power ... are you dreaming ... how the hell would you pass this amendment
RE:dynastic politics
by Bala Krishnan on Dec 30, 2007 11:02 PM Permalink
You cant solve a cultural problem only by a legislative act.We have to face the demons within us .
Suggesting that THE HEAD OF INDIAN MILITARY BE CALLED KING OF INDIA AND RULE WITH IRON HAND WITH DISCIPLINE AND POWER, AND DECISIVE RULE, NOT WIMPS LIKE CONGRESS OR BJP.
ONE WHO HAS A FULL AND FREE HAND TO DEFEND OUR COUNTRY FROM THREATS AND TERRORISM.
DEMOCRAY AS A SYSTEM CREATS WIMPS AND SISSY TYPES IN OUR COUNTRY.
WE AS PEOPLE FOR 10,000 YEARS ARE USED TO BE RULED BY KINGS AND RULERS , NOT WIMPS, AND WE WANT TO SEE STRONGMEN TO LOOK UP TO AND RESPECT.
RE:WE BHARAT VANSHIS REQUIRE STRONG KING TO RULE US , our 10,000 years of sucessful history
by Jungle Boy on Dec 30, 2007 10:56 PM Permalink
Dude ... thats exactly what happened in Pak and it was thinking like this that has Pak in such a turmoil ... no one person should have absolute power ... our democracy, albeit flawed, is much better than the dictatorship you suggest ... I just wish our judiciary had more powers to overrule the bunch of idiots sitting in the parliament
RE:WE BHARAT VANSHIS REQUIRE STRONG KING TO RULE US , our 10,000 years of sucessful history
by Jalaluddin on Dec 30, 2007 10:47 PM Permalink
This BLOODY DEMOCRAY WAS IMPOSED TO US BY THE BRITISH, WHICH WE NEVER INTENDED IN FIRST PLACE.
GANDHIJI SAID - DISSOLVE CONGRESS AND LETS FORM JUST ONE PARTY, DESH SEWA PARTY.
BHAGAT SINGH SAID - LETS GET MARXISM
ALL OTHERS SAID IN 1847 - FIRST GET RID OF THE BRITISH AND THEN LETS MAKE KING OF INDIA TO RULE WITH FAIRNESS, OUR HISTORICAL NATURE OF BEING RULED BY A KING, 10,000 YEARS NO LESS.
WHY DID WE ADOPT DEMOCRACY BY BRITISH WITHOUT THINKING ?
RE:RE:WE BHARAT VANSHIS REQUIRE STRONG KING TO RULE US , our 10,000 years of sucessful history
by Jalaluddin on Dec 30, 2007 10:57 PM Permalink
Why dont you realize kings were there in India LONG LONG TIME BEFORE SAUDI ARABIA WAS EVEN BORN. THINK ABOUT KING RAMA 7000 YEARS AGO, KRISHNA 5000 YEARS AGO AND THEIR DESCENDENTS RULED SUCESSFULLY. They were all powerful, fair, and progressive rulers and their kingdoms were prosperous and justice for everyone.
Why do you point to Saudi Arabia all the time. I am an Indian first and formost, and dont care for SA.
RE:WE BHARAT VANSHIS REQUIRE STRONG KING TO RULE US , our 10,000 years of sucessful history
by ROMESH KUMAR on Dec 30, 2007 11:26 PM Permalink
Jaludinddin, your comments are true and based on facts and figures. Churchil had said that democracy is necessarily not the best way of governance but there is no better way available.
I can understand and agree with you over disillusionment from democratic rule.But autocracy is not answer to that.
Our democratic system needs a sea-change like two or three party and federal system like USA, More and more independent and strong judiciary, barring criminals from contesting polls, more powers and autonomy to states,upper age limit for MP/MLAs, minimum educational qualifications for contestants etc. If ruling party is in absolute majority,PM/CM becomes a dictator with corrupt and criminal sycophants around him, if it is a coalition then it becomes a SAVE CHAIR govt indulging in all kinds of corrupt practices.
Dictatorship.......!!!!???? Let's make good use of the experience we gained from our neighbours.
RE:WE BHARAT VANSHIS REQUIRE STRONG KING TO RULE US , our 10,000 years of sucessful history
by MGR Fan on Dec 30, 2007 11:14 PM Permalink
I appreciate your point Jalaluddin bhai, but in 21st century, we have to change with times. I agree we need strong rulers, but family rule brings lots of other evils.
We had great leaders like our Abdul Kalam , wish we had more people like him or people like him should directly come to politics.
RE:RE:WE BHARAT VANSHIS REQUIRE STRONG KING TO RULE US , our 10,000 years of sucessful history
by MGR Fan on Dec 30, 2007 11:16 PM Permalink
Dont abuse him, he looks to be true patriotic India for sure. But his point wont work in 21st century. We need strong rulers, but not from dynasties. The concept of dynasty is sickening
RE:WE BHARAT VANSHIS REQUIRE STRONG KING TO RULE US , our 10,000 years of sucessful history
by Marco Polo on Dec 30, 2007 10:46 PM Permalink
Why not a dictatorship ?
RE:WE BHARAT VANSHIS REQUIRE STRONG KING TO RULE US , our 10,000 years of sucessful history
by MGR Fan on Dec 30, 2007 11:10 PM Permalink
I disagree with you, King Rule and Monarchy is there for 1000s of years and led to so much bloodshed and warmongering. democracy is the best form of Govt, but true democracy means that politicans are not allowed to bring their children into politics
RE:It' all in the subcontinent!
by Marco Polo on Dec 30, 2007 11:03 PM Permalink
Yadavaaa,I meant pseudo Gandhis(Ganddis or Nehru-Ganddis),not Mahatma.
I'm as Indian as you are.I have right to vote in India.
RE:It' all in the subcontinent!
by Marco Polo on Dec 31, 2007 12:38 AM Permalink
i DIDN'T DELETE UR MESSAGE,BROTHER.IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DELETED BY SOMEONE LESE OR THE MODERATOR BECAUSE YOU USED A FILTHY WORD TO DESCRIBLE mS.BHUTTO
think for 10,000 years south asian region including India and Pakistan , called Bharat Varsh HAD MONOCRACY. Means hereditary sucession, kings son become the heir to the throne, and it went on smoothly.
DEMOCRACY IN INDIA PALTRY 60 YEARS and utter failure with idiotic caste and religion based politics and stupid LOOT OF PUBLIC MONEY WE PAY AS TAXES.
May be we south asians are NOT SUITED TO DEMOCRACY but we WANT TO BE RULED BY IRON HAND AND DISCIPLINE that kings used to exercise. OLD HABITS DIE HARD.
10,000 years of monocracy , countless kings and kingdoms bears testimony to this fact. We like hereditary sucession , it is in OUR BLOOD due to 10,000 years of such history.
RE:DEMOCRACY NOT SUITED FOR INDIA AND SOUTH ASIAN REGION
by Jalaluddin on Dec 30, 2007 10:43 PM Permalink
Suggesting that THE HEAD OF INDIAN MILITARY BE CALLED KING OF INDIA AND RULE WITH IRON HAND WITH DISCIPLINE AND POWER, AND DECISIVE RULE, NOT WIMPS LIKE CONGRESS OR BJP.
ONE WHO HAS A FULL AND FREE HAND TO DEFEND OUR COUNTRY FROM THREATS AND TERRORISM.
DEMOCRAY AS A SYSTEM CREATS WIMPS AND SISSY TYPES IN OUR COUNTRY.
WE AS PEOPLE FOR 10,000 YEARS ARE USED TO BE RULED BY KINGS AND RULERS , NOT WIMPS, AND WE WANT TO SEE STRONGMEN TO LOOK UP TO AND RESPECT.
RE:DEMOCRACY NOT SUITED FOR INDIA AND SOUTH ASIAN REGION
by Marco Polo on Dec 30, 2007 10:45 PM Permalink
But evolution should have eliminated such things in the blood by now...
RE:DEMOCRACY NOT SUITED FOR INDIA AND SOUTH ASIAN REGION
by JGN on Dec 30, 2007 10:43 PM Permalink
Mr.Jalaluddin, democracy is any day better than monarchy. That is the reason for the uprising against the monarchy even in a small country like Nepal. The litmus test is not whether there was democracy for 10,000 years or for just 60 years. It is how matured the people (and by extension their leaders) are. Democracy is defnitely not a failed experiment in India, though it is so in Pakistan and Bengladesh. And we do not want Saudi style monarchy in our Country!!!!!
RE:DEMOCRACY NOT SUITED FOR INDIA AND SOUTH ASIAN REGION
by aandhi on Dec 30, 2007 11:14 PM Permalink
JGN Mr.Jalaluddin is talking about an iron hand of discipline and power without appeasement based on idiotic caste or religion besides he has madtouched very important point of loot of public money by some so called political leaders who are in fact looters.Democracy has not given this country so far any strong ruler whom we could see up to and respect. In fact democracy has given us goons and looters as rulers. And practically we have been subjected to hereditary monarchy, What is wrong in accepting the facts as they are? Mr.Jalaluddin's views are very much correct as far as the style of democracy practiced in our country is country.
RE:DEMOCRACY NOT SUITED FOR INDIA AND SOUTH ASIAN REGION
by arun bharadwaj on Dec 30, 2007 10:59 PM Permalink
Jalaluddin Dude...i seriously like the way you have put ur point across...It is completely another issue as to whether i agree or not agree with your view point. cheers
