Action being taken against the culprits as stated by CM is soft whereas congress hiding afzal is really hard! What next we need to learn about justice from congress? Get lost!
RE:Parody of justice
by sarfarosh on Dec 27, 2007 07:53 PM Permalink
what about sarabjit. He is languishing in a Pakistani jail. If sarabjit were a christian then we would have seen strict diplomatic action and PM in sadness. When amarnath yatris were gunned down no media were interested in reporting. When an adivasi women was chased to nudity, no human rights commission guys were interested. They are all behind modi and hindus. Who knows if this is really the work of the so calledcommunal forces. It could be the handiwork of secular forces to garner votes for the LS elections.
Conversion is same as a son or daughter ditching his parents.
Conversion is same as a politician changing political parties for the sake of money.
I accept that the lower castes are ill-treated by upper castes, but conversion does not solve the problem. The problem has to be handled in a different way.
Even after seeing the problems the country faced because of religion-related issues, if still people continue conversions, then they must be branded as unpatriotic.
RE:What is conversion?
by sarfarosh on Dec 27, 2007 07:54 PM Permalink
what about sarabjit. He is languishing in a Pakistani jail. If sarabjit were a christian then we would have seen strict diplomatic action and PM in sadness. When amarnath yatris were gunned down no media were interested in reporting. When an adivasi women was chased to nudity, no human rights commission guys were interested. They are all behind modi and hindus. Who knows if this is really the work of the so calledcommunal forces. It could be the handiwork of secular forces to garner votes for the LS elections.
My heartfelt condolences & deepest sympathies for all the victims regardless of religion. I dont why or how you assume people of other religions dont care about the plight of victims of other religions?
The bottom line is we need to start demanding justice & fairness for all.
I strongly oppose burning of churches or hurting any innocent people (or any person for that matter). But Hindus should stand up against the conversion tactics employed by Christian missionaries. The best way to do it is through spreading awareness. The pen is mightier than the sword !
RE:Hindus should stand up against Xian tactics
by m on Dec 27, 2007 08:35 PM Permalink
Hinduism will be 'denounced' till 85% of marriages in India are inter-caste.
RE:God will build His Church in Orissa
by true tamilan on Dec 27, 2007 07:25 PM Permalink
God will not build. White master's slaves in india will fight with their brothers and do foolishness.
RE:God will build His Church in Orissa
by sarfarosh on Dec 27, 2007 07:54 PM Permalink
what about sarabjit. He is languishing in a Pakistani jail. If sarabjit were a christian then we would have seen strict diplomatic action and PM in sadness. When amarnath yatris were gunned down no media were interested in reporting. When an adivasi women was chased to nudity, no human rights commission guys were interested. They are all behind modi and hindus. Who knows if this is really the work of the so calledcommunal forces. It could be the handiwork of secular forces to garner votes for the LS elections.
Christianity, despite its middle-east origins, is the political ideology of white supremacists. Many great massacres of middle ages, and the wiping out of entire civilizations (eg: Aztec, Inca) is the proud work of these proselytizers and racists. Indian christians can change your god and kneel before a white man like ur white master, but u will never become white.
Largest number of people died in WW2 is in india 4 million died of british administration's bengal'scorch the earth policy. Some of the slaves in india are proud that their masters constructed some schools and hospitals. It is like stealing 1 lakh rupees and doing some good in the form of 10 rupees. Indian govt. shud have nationalized all the christian colleges at the time of independence.
RE:To Indians
by SikhPride on Dec 27, 2007 07:24 PM Permalink
U tell me on which side u are...R u with Same coloured Pakistanis/Afgani Islamic Terrorists..R u on same side of developed and open wester europe and america.. Which side u want to be..Do u want to isolate ur self.
RE:RE:To Indians
by true tamilan on Dec 27, 2007 07:29 PM Permalink
I am for the truth. If u c in many states in india, there is systematic conversion going on. Media does not bring out anything bad about rapes by christian pastors or death and murder in christian seminaries.
Sadhuji was attacked by christians, but look how media hid it and portrayed one side of story. Da vince code was banned by congress ruling states, but cong. govt questions existence of Ram. Did pakistan or afghanistan question existence of mohammed and allowed hindus and sikhs to prosper at the cost of muslims?
If you are so proud of being a christian, why don't you change your name to a more christian one such as peter or john etc? Are you ashamed of being a christian?
RE:To Indians
by true tamilan on Dec 27, 2007 07:24 PM Permalink
by ashish on Dec 27, 2007 07:16 PM well said sikh pride ,one sensible indian ,modis visa was rejected already and if christan countries reaaly get a light of these killings it wont be long before indians will have a tough time entering developed countries
I have seen so many message of you. You seem to be in awe of westerners and whites. They are nothing but looters who went to different countries, destroyed their civilization, subjugated the subjects and plundered wealth. It has only been 50 years since the decimation of european white power. Wait for some more time.
Ashish, Have some pride in ur ancestor's culture. In every society, ills will creep in. That does not mean, reject a 8000 year old culture and follow master who looted us.
RE:To Indians
by true tamilan on Dec 27, 2007 07:39 PM Permalink
I am not working in Vatican. USA is a secular country. In US constiution, there is not a single word which says Jesus. Here they allow recitations from all the religions in the parliament.
Americans are fed up with the lies in christianity, they are looking more for eastern religions and thoughts.
RE:To Indians
by ashish on Dec 27, 2007 07:26 PM Permalink
dude if indians had pride they wudnt leave india ---u guys wanna go to christian countries and then abuse their religion ,wow
Dear Friends, the success of communal polarisation of people at Gujrat is driving RSS to implement it in Orissa also. They are just creating some non-issue to torch houses and religious places of minority to come into power. They are doing this for many years. After the foundation of RSS in nagpur in 1925 they got first success of this stratergy in muncipalty election in 1927 by throwing stones on Muhram procession. They will do it again again and befool bahujan (SC/ST/OBC and religious minority) to remain in power. Hope Bahujan would understand these stratergies as early as possible for their betterment. May all beings be Happy. Bhawatu Sabba Mangalam.
RE:RSS stratergy
by gautam gautam on Dec 27, 2007 07:32 PM Permalink
Very true my friend. You are speaking the langauge of pseudo-secularists, you muslim or a christian, whoever you are. A hindu beaten to such an extent as to be hospitalised is a non-issue!!! What is the worth of hindus right??? In hindu land only christians and muslims have any sort of rights.
This Sectarian hatred in india is the cause of doom for some states. Shame on those who push people into killings..Orisa has seen shamefull murder of Australian social worker and his children.
On one hand we indians are running to western countries to settle down by hook or crook..And at same time stand with western countries for War on Islamic terror. This christian bashing will not win us any friends in developed world.
VHP should play its cards with proper calculations and should not get itself blacklisted organization like Al-Quaida.
RE:Sectarianism in India
by m on Dec 27, 2007 07:26 PM Permalink
Hinduism has disintegrated and destroyed India till 1947.
The current status is:
Kerala - Gulf? Tamilnadu - No Comments Andhra Pradesh - Telangana movement Karnataka - Ask Tamilnadu Bihar,UP - Their weapons are sophisticated than Indian Army's Bengal - No comments. Chinese will listen. Seven sister states - Instant death if you are non-assamese. Punjab - Khalistan. First round was a draw. Kashmir - Kidding right? Rajasthan - You are "paradesi" for them. Maharastra - Ask Bihar. ...
RE:Sectarianism in India
by true tamilan on Dec 27, 2007 07:32 PM Permalink
I did not know atheist Nehru and commies in Congress declared India a Hindu country.
RE:Sectarianism in India
by ashish on Dec 27, 2007 07:16 PM Permalink
well said sikh pride ,one sensible indian ,modis visa was rejected already and if christan countries reaaly get a light of these killings it wont be long before indians will have a tough time entering developed countries
RE:Sectarianism in India
by true tamilan on Dec 27, 2007 07:18 PM Permalink
Like a true slave, you are always concerned about what master will think if I do the right thing.
RE:Sectarianism in India
by ashish on Dec 27, 2007 07:21 PM Permalink
well am no hypoocrite like u ,i respect the hand that feeds me --- watch out ur lungi is falling lol
RE:Sectarianism in India
by SikhPride on Dec 27, 2007 07:26 PM Permalink
U r very right ? That is why Tamils where one of the first to be docile to British occupation. U cannot be blamed about consused mindset
RE:Sectarianism in India
by true tamilan on Dec 27, 2007 07:42 PM Permalink
I am not going to fight with you whether tamilians or marathas or sikhs were great.
I did not know that if u work for a white man's company, u r paid for ur slavery to his thougts and ideas rather than the work u r doing there.
RE:Sectarianism in India
by Neutral on Dec 27, 2007 07:23 PM Permalink
Agreed that Christain bashing will not do any good to us. But, the rate at which the conversions are happening in India is alarming.
Indians live in US, UK, Aus etc. But, they are not converting them to Hindu like what missionaires are doing here in India. If they stop converting, we can be good friends. They should not interfere in our business and vice versa.
RE:RE:Sectarianism in India
by SikhPride on Dec 27, 2007 07:28 PM Permalink
I am a sikh and I know what Hindus do when they get chance..They always try to portray sikhs as their part which is not. Christians convert by giving help or bribe..People who get converted by accepting help or bribe anyway have no soul
In gita, god says he has divided people into 4 varnas based on gunas.
Gunas are
1, Satvika - People who are not bothered about materialistic life leading a ascetic life. They were called brahmins. Brahmin is one who knows Brahman or god.
2, Rajasic - People who want power. They want land and wealth. Kshatriyas and vaishyas belonged to that.
3, Tamasic - People who are sloth, lazy, enjoying with women and drink all the time. Shudras belonged to that.
Bhagavt gita cleary says this. There were lot of hindu saints who has explained better than me what casteism in Hinduim is. It is never by birth.
After Vivekananda, there was no pan-indian Hindu leader who cud spread the essence of hinduism thruout India.
RE:Casteism in Hinduism
by Confused Mind on Dec 27, 2007 07:12 PM Permalink
There is nothing called low-caste and high-caste. It is a distortion of the original concept. The idea is in order to run a society or even a individual properly one needs to imbibe 4 basic qualities of - Thinker (Bramhin), Protector (Kshatriya), Economist (Vaishya), Worker (Shudra). All of them are equal and do not exist in isolation. Even in life one has to imbibe all the 4 qualitites to be successful. This concept will always be true everywhere in whatever profession people pursue. It has been distorted and abused by confused people over time. Most Hindus are not aware of the same. There is nothing wrong with old-age homes. People in the West are quite comfortable with that. For that matter, Hinduism, has 4 stages of life, bramhcharya, grihastha, vanaprastha, sanyas. During the 4th stage one leaves home. What's wrong if Old-age homes are kept well?
