Why in India Hindu's face never ending conflicts only with Christians and Islam faiths? Whilst other religions like Sikhs, Parsis, Jains & Budhists live harmoniously with Hindus for centuries?
RE:Why this conflicts???
by JGN on Dec 27, 2007 03:28 PM Permalink
Dear Yazi Narein, the question should be the other way. Why the Muslims and Christians cannot live in harmony with rest of the population? The basic problem is the jealousy of their gods. The Muslims proclaim that "there is no god but allah and Mohammed is last prophet" and the Christians shout at others that "thou shalt not have any other god" So understand the situation yourself!
RE:Why this conflicts???
by Atheist on Dec 27, 2007 03:34 PM Permalink
The rest of the population ? well most of humanity is either christian or muslim. hindus are only in one small country. Small because even brazil is three times bigger. So hinduism has to accept this reality that there will be western influences. U tell me JGN. Wat is hinduism? U dont follow hinduism. You know nothing about hinduism!! you try to follow a system called democracy. And this system came from the west. The whole indian constitution is a bad copy of western rules and regulation.
RE:Why this conflicts???
by JGN on Dec 27, 2007 03:46 PM Permalink
Dear Atheist,
>>>>>>>>>>>well most of humanity is either christian or muslim........... you are still obsessed with the religions. For your kind information, there are more than 2000 religions the world over. We hear only about 2 or 3 religions with large number of followers. Btw almost 15% of world population are ahteists and a good majority of them are in USA and China, two of the most vibrant economies of the world!
RE:Why this conflicts???
by JGN on Dec 27, 2007 04:06 PM Permalink
Dear Atheist, on an earlier posting, you have accused that I am weak in history. I wonder about your maths. If you understand 15% as majority, I cannot help. Be happy with your beliefs. No quarrels!
RE:Why this conflicts???
by Sahadevan KK on Jan 09, 2008 12:35 PM Permalink
At Ramsethu Ralli in Delhi all VHP-BJP-RSS leaders were under a roof. What is the difference between RSS/VHP/BJP/Minister? When a person wears 'nicker' he becomes RSS; then removes nicker and wear pants, he is VHP; when he wears coat he becomes BJP. When he removes everything becomes minister.
RE:Why this conflicts???
by selah on Dec 27, 2007 03:33 PM Permalink
hai how are you JGN as an ethiest you are claiming there is no god. who feels the problm. no body. the same way if some wants to continue with their faith they should believe their faith is only true. can you please explain me how one can say every thing is true but i will stick with my one. the problm arises when some one starts to compal another.
RE:Why this conflicts???
by JGN on Dec 27, 2007 03:39 PM Permalink
Hi selah, hope you are fine. do you know that the Jews and Arabs are brothers under the skin. Still they are fighting from time im-morial! If your faith is good for you, follow that. Don't try to impose that on others. And also don't follow the mad mullahs who exhort at the gullibles to "fight in the cause of Allah"
RE:Why this conflicts???
by selah on Dec 27, 2007 03:48 PM Permalink
not only jews and arabs are brothers. we all human beings are from one man and woman. so all we are brothers. can you say who is imposing their faith and how. do you mean discussion by impose. i do have Quran in my hand and we do have more good mullas than bad mullas. and for us little educated in our religion it is very easy to understand un islamic fatwas...
RE:Why this conflicts???
by Dinesh Tiwari on Dec 27, 2007 04:08 PM Permalink
Do you understand the meaning of " Mohammed is last prophet". It is that the god teaches his desciple untill he merges in God. So when one becomes devoid of (Moh n mad=Mohammed)there is no one to give u the message The atman is merged into god becomes one with God. Hence thereafter no messanger is required thus Prophet mohammed utters (Mohammed is the last messanger). One can only understand this if he is graced with the blessings of his Guru.
RE:Why this conflicts???
by JGN on Dec 27, 2007 04:20 PM Permalink
What I understand by "Mohammed is last prophet" is that he was just cheating the gullible masses of the West Asia. Nothing more than that. Even if a god exists, he would have sent a message for all to see like the sun light. He would not have selected a mentally deranged camer driver to reveal the truth. Btw what happened after Mohammed? Did the god adopt family planning????????????
RE:Why this conflicts???
by Atheist on Dec 27, 2007 04:31 PM Permalink
HAHAHAHA.... Now I doubt that you are well read. You seem to be the same hate filled soul here. :-) I have no love for Islam but I dont really understand how you are going to convey your message by abuse. I would say the same thing to you if you abuse Jesus or Ram. Not everything is rational. We have to learn to live with it.
RE:Why this conflicts???
by Dinesh Tiwari on Dec 27, 2007 04:32 PM Permalink
First become a desciple of God not of any religion. Search for "Yatharth Geeta" on the Web and read on you will like nothing else in the world afterwards.
RE:Why this conflicts???
by JGN on Dec 27, 2007 04:36 PM Permalink
Dear Dinesh Tiwari, do you know that The Bhagwad Gita was a later day addition to Mahabharata? It was not there in the original written by Ved Vyasa (some people even believe that even Vyasa was not one person but a number of succssive individuals like the Sharkaracharyas we see today). And of course I am not planning to go the Vaikundam!
RE:Why this conflicts???
by Dinesh Tiwari on Dec 27, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
Do you understand the meaning of " Mohammed is last prophet". It is that the god teaches his desciple untill he merges in God. So when one becomes devoid of (Moh n mad=Mohammed)there is no one to give u the message The atman is merged into god becomes one with God. Hence thereafter no messanger is required thus Prophet mohammed utters (Mohammed is the last messanger). One can only understand this if he is graced with the blessings of his Guru.
RE:RE:Why this conflicts???
by JGN on Dec 27, 2007 04:07 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>>god teaches his desciple...........does he have any wireless serivce????????? Have you seen the god or have any conclusive evidence???????
RE:RE:RE:RE:Why this conflicts???
by JGN on Dec 27, 2007 04:22 PM Permalink
My sadguru was the late Dr. A.T. Kovoor (the wrold renowned rationalist). Pl search the web for his works.
Rationalism is subjective... for you it might be rational for someone else it might be irrational. If few of your 'rational' choose one leader among you and call him 'rational guru' does not simply make him rational .. thats very very ridiculous in its own sense.
the problem with fundamental christians and muslims is that they think that their religion is the only religion. Though it is a different matter that unlike hindus they have to strictly follow what was written in some books thousands of yrs ago. they also want others to convert to their religion by hook or crook.
since most of the these people in india r converted, the best option is to reconvert to Hinduism, Budhism, Jainism or Sikhism. These religions do not force others to convert. Or forget religion and become Atheist in this age of science. By both these methods all religion related fights will not b there.
RE:For peace convert to Atheism, Hinduism, Budhism, Sikhism or Jainism
by selah on Dec 27, 2007 03:22 PM Permalink
why do you lie have you ever face a situation in your life that some one try to convert you force fully. never.. if i want to continue in my faith i should strongly believe only my path is correct. the defference is that we dont compel any one to convert or revert. but it is our duty to educate or discuss about faith. accepts not accepts is up to them. thats why quran says no compulsion in faith. you have your on choice. end will be in his( your creator)hands
RE:RE:For peace convert to Atheism, Hinduism, Budhism, Sikhism or Jainism
by JGN on Dec 27, 2007 03:30 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>>>but it is our duty to educate or discuss about faith .............Nobody is intereted in your faith. If it is good for you, practice it. Don't try to impose your faith on others. Otherwise be ready to face the consequences also! It is as simple as that!
RE:For peace convert to Atheism, Hinduism, Budhism, Sikhism or Jainism
by selah on Dec 27, 2007 03:41 PM Permalink
Dear what are you doing here now . you are trying to explain your veiw to rediff readers. the history of human is existing on communication. other wise there was no need of any langauge. why it is only a problm if we discuss about religion. have you ever think about it...my point is there should be a healthy discussion between the faiths. whcih will reduce communal violence
RE:For peace convert to Atheism, Hinduism, Budhism, Sikhism or Jainism
by JGN on Dec 27, 2007 03:14 PM Permalink
Dear Ram Sharma, the best thing to do is to become an atheist or practice one's religion without creating any problems for others. Believe in the basic goodness of humanbeings.
I have read in today's Mumbai Mirror about a polio-affected Muslim teenager jumping into a well to save a hindu teenager from drowning. He did not think whether the one snking into the well is a muslim or hindu or of any other religon. He acted on his basic instinct to save another human being!
A few months back Mumbai-Pune Deccan Express was attacked by the followers of Dr. Ambedkar and the Kazi of a nearby mosque had provided shelter to the stranded passengers irrespective of their religion.
Rather than emulating such examples, we are just creating hatred for no apparent reasons!
RE:For peace convert to Atheism, Hinduism, Budhism, Sikhism or Jainism
by Atheist on Dec 27, 2007 03:05 PM Permalink
if you believe in all religions then why reconvert ? let people follow any religion how does it make a difference ?
RE:For peace convert to Atheism, Hinduism, Budhism, Sikhism or Jainism
by Ram Sharma on Dec 27, 2007 03:23 PM Permalink
u have not understood what i wanted to say. it is not a question of in which religion u believe. i want to say that for peace convert to a religion or atheism, who will not try to convert others. then there will b peace.
RE:For peace convert to Atheism, Hinduism, Budhism, Sikhism or Jainism
by Shambhu Mehta on Dec 27, 2007 03:17 PM Permalink
it is impossible to convert to hinduism or jainism. only converts can reconvert to hinduism by performing 'shuddhi'
RE:RE:For peace convert to Atheism, Hinduism, Budhism, Sikhism or Jainism
by Atheist on Dec 27, 2007 03:30 PM Permalink
u mean people who are not hindu are ashuddh ?
RE:For peace convert to Atheism, Hinduism, Budhism, Sikhism or Jainism
by Shambhu Mehta on Dec 27, 2007 03:40 PM Permalink
you should ask this question to hindus. Shuddhi means some kind religious rite (yagna). It seems that you are not aware of it.
RE:A request to all those who are rediculing hinduism
by Atheist on Dec 27, 2007 02:55 PM Permalink
correction...dont get me wrong. its a hindu majority country only because its size has been reduced drastically. pardon me if i am wrong.
RE:RE:A request to all those who are rediculing hinduism
by Atheist on Dec 27, 2007 03:02 PM Permalink
and your history is very weak. hinduism was practiced way beyond east and west pakistan. ever heard about ankgorwat ? look objectively and u will have to accept that hinduism has lost a lot of following. there are various reasons for that. I dont blame hinduism entirely for that.
RE:A request to all those who are rediculing hinduism
by Atheist on Dec 27, 2007 03:00 PM Permalink
religions are here to stay. u and i cannot change it. its time everybody looks at their own religion rather than pointing fingers. some people say that poor convert for 2 kg rice. I ask them why cant u provide them that 2 kg rice if they are ur brothers. so we just have to look at ourselves.
RE:A request to all those who are rediculing hinduism
by Atheist on Dec 27, 2007 03:09 PM Permalink
Now u are talking like an atheist which is fine by me. But I dont believe in any religion so i cant answer most of ur questions here. As far as rice is concerned I appreciate the work done by missionaries because atleast they are providing some hope to the poor. I dont mind if they are converted to any religion as long as they get good food and nice place to stay. humanity is more important.
RE:A request to all those who are rediculing hinduism
by rohit singh on Dec 27, 2007 04:56 PM Permalink
Dear Avinash
I fully agree with you , this Christians have strange theories , like god loved u so much he gave his only son , so was god a male or female , he didnt had a daughter , who created millions of animals birds and sea world , who regulates there life and family . What who dont believe in him , were is this heaven , would love to see it , pls some one give a ticket , may be pope is the tc for heaven
