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RE:Religion - A Faith
by cherukuri pavan on Dec 27, 2007 03:32 AM  Permalink
You fool. Religion is culture and culture will make or break the country. With your foolish ness you adopted a religion which believes in one man and one women breed 600 billion people by doing ..... things with brothers & sister. You have a funny concept of virgin mother and what not. I don't believe in god but I believe in what keeps our country united. By bowing to other people, you are making your country weak. Rest is all non-sense. No one will give you daily bread, you have to earn it. Some one might have throwed some break as if you are dog and converted you.

You ask for forgiveness for people who are killing Hindus, initiated attack on Hindu saint and started this mess, who are killing muslims and treating them as slaves in middle east. Don't act smart and behave all converted people are good.

If you really feel faith is not inherited you won't support people who attacked Hindu saint.

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RE:RE:Religion - A Faith
by Another Convert on Dec 27, 2007 03:38 AM  Permalink
True. Earn your bread, but not take away others bread.

Bowing to others is mostly done in india. How many times have you touched others feet?

Read the prayer I wrote. Read it till it makes sense to you. Though it may take quite some time, cherukuri paven.

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RE:Religion - A Faith
by Confused Mind on Dec 27, 2007 03:25 AM  Permalink
Religion is the collection of best practices and values that allow us to develop, preserve, protect, enrich our body, mind, emotions, intellect, creativity and consciousness. This is also the basic principle of the survival and growth of any civilization and it is also the basis of ancient Indian philosophy. All the Western countries realized this and they also became secular. This is pure common sense. To live we need food, water, shelter which means, agriculture, farming, housing, sanitation, electricity, water distribution. Then we have flood, earthquakes and cyclones. We need to protect from those. Hence, we make best use of education, economics, science, technology to correct and make systems better & robust. We need to maintain them as it decays. In good times, we spend time in music, art, sports and it keeps our minds and body more healthy. We pursue medicine and create insurance plans etc. Develop financial systems to priortize efforts. Religion is One. The foundations are in India. God is nowhere, Life is now and here. Life is God.

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RE:RE:Religion - A Faith
by Another Convert on Dec 27, 2007 03:33 AM  Permalink
True. One will not find God anywhere. But that is till one is terminally ill or a great misfortune befalls on him. Then comes the search for meaning in life.

We are born to this world. We struggle till we die. We invent many things. And then? We die. What for?

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RE:Religion - A Faith
by Confused Mind on Dec 27, 2007 03:37 AM  Permalink
To raise our consciousness, by becoming better athletes, teachers, doctors, workers, scientists and leaving the world a better place for continuity and have inner fulfillment by working.

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RE:Religion - A Faith
by Janesh on Dec 27, 2007 03:42 AM  Permalink
Convert,who wants to hear your propaganda? Get lost with your new religion.We are happy in Hinduism.

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RE:Religion - A Faith
by Another Convert on Dec 27, 2007 03:46 AM  Permalink
Janesh, still, it is worthwhile to read and understand the prayer I wrote.

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Dalits
by americaisgreat on Dec 27, 2007 03:19 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

RE:why ?
by sanjay choudhry on Dec 27, 2007 01:56 AM
Tell that to people who say; "Our god is true, your god is false" and "if you don't convert, we will beat you."

This is VHP Propaganda...beware.

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RE:Dalits
by Confused Mind on Dec 27, 2007 03:22 AM  Permalink
The real meaning of religion is 'dharma' means the values which makes us exist on this earth for the development, preservation, protection and enrichment of our body, mind, emotions, intellect, creativity and consciousness. Hence, to do so intelligently we create education systems, economic priorities to build better houses, cars, deal with natural disasters, deal with diseases effectively, and thus figure out ways to deal with problems and issues and thus pursue science, arts, communications, research,
interdependent thinking, technological innovation to include as many people as possible to make our lives better. People falsely go to priests, read holy books, worships all kinds of things misunderstood, as things like Shiva means freedom, Saraswati means knowledge, is not available in temples but in education, industry, work and so for. We compete and plays sports to be healthy, develop our mind with music and so on. Religion is One and simple. People confuse. There will be no more conversion if majority of people know and pursue what has been written above by me. All the priests and clerics will understand that they are fraud and start running away. God is nowhere Life is now and here.

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RE:Dalits
by Indoamerican on Dec 27, 2007 03:32 AM  Permalink
I think what u r telling is a chri.. way..
I remember. I used to be in a government school.
We used to sing 3 prayers followed with national anthem. Some days we used to have a chris... preachings as well prayer and on those days they used to give milk, banana and bread. They also makes it a point to us that everything is only given by jesus. This is a very wicked way of intruding a childs mind. Does sick people like u think that it is good. Some times I relly feel that what the VHP is doing to those missonary is right. One need to use a needle to remove another needle. It is a fact,.

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religious conversion and nationality.
by . on Dec 27, 2007 03:16 AM  Permalink 

ppl say religion n nationality r two different things. further they say religion n conversion r personal belief of some1 to be followed in their own homes. but as a person ie by nationality, v r all indians. thus conversion of ppl from one religion to another does not affect our nationality.
now the point is. think of jinnah who was hindu by birth. n he was misguided to convert himself into muslim. subsequently, he realised his mistakes n wanted to reconvert to his original hindu religion. but during that time, the hindu religious leaders did not allow him to reconvert him to hinduism.
this frustrated jinnah to a great extent. he was then instrumental to the creation of state called pakistan in the name of religion. imagine if jinnah had been allowed to be converted back as hindu by the leaders then, the partition wud nt hv taken place. so ultimately change of religion led to change of nation and thus conversion and nationality r invariably related terms n cant b separated.
so ban all the conversions.

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conversion in tribal areas.
by . on Dec 27, 2007 03:12 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

talking abt tribal area! i experienced even in metro city like mumbai. i met one xtian missionery who tears apart photos of all hindu gods, preaches that only christ will save u n other religions will not rescue u and what not. the preacher is paid heftily by churches.
so if this is the situation in a metro, then imagine the cheating of uneducated tribal ppl going on in remote rural areas.

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RE:conversion in tribal areas.
by Janesh on Dec 27, 2007 03:44 AM  Permalink
That Xian missionary would even tear Jesus' picture or Mary's if it will bring him some'saved souls' and Western financial gains.

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we andhrites are ashamed of our neibhour Orissa
by Krishna reddy on Dec 27, 2007 03:01 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

in india only andhra people are intelligent

if there is no andhra there is no IT in india
is ther is no IT there is no economy boom
indian economy is at the mercy of andhra guys


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RE:we andhrites are ashamed of our neibhour Orissa
by italyseaayi on Dec 27, 2007 03:08 AM  Permalink
Krishna reddy. Log tera cheddi utar ke phaikega. Dont try to divide. SOB

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RE:we andhrites are ashamed of our neibhour Orissa
by amit on Dec 27, 2007 03:05 AM  Permalink
Here comes a coward, who very poorly tries to mask his identiy and write things to divide indians on state lines, sorry buddy, that wont work, try something else


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RE:we andhrites are ashamed of our neibhour Orissa
by Janesh on Dec 27, 2007 03:45 AM  Permalink
Then why are the American Andhraites still acting like Vanara sena? No sense of discipline,propriety or self respect is seen in the activities or attitudes of the IT intelligent Andhraites.

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RE:we andhrites are ashamed of our neibhour Orissa
by dinesh agarwal on Dec 27, 2007 07:38 AM  Permalink
Hello Krishna Reddy,

Mr Naidu is Pioneer for IT in Andhra. Now Mr Naidu's party is not in power still IT in Andhra is still booming.

Lesson for you: every body has contribution in Nation Making. other Indian National inside or outside the country are capable to continue IT booming trend.

Don't beleive it, ask your brothers working in IT they will tell you truth.

Don't divide. Try to unite and if you are incompetent to unite then sit idle at your home.

thanks for not wasting again our time with useless posts.

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RE:Bajrangis will make hindus ashes flowing thru ganges
by Confused Mind on Dec 27, 2007 02:54 AM  Permalink
There is nothing called Christians. All Western nations are secular and follow Uniform Civil Code which people of India (whom you call Hindus) also follow and practice as defined by the Govt of India.

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RE:Bajrangis will make hindus ashes flowing thru ganges
by amit on Dec 27, 2007 02:56 AM  Permalink
Hindus and Xians have lived harmoniously all these years, it is the Muslim fanaticism that has brought a strong rebuttal from all religions, unfortunately, xian brothers shud be careful abt outside influences who have run amok thru conversions,and instilling hatred in people's minds. Xians should let go of their external influnces

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RE:Bajrangis will make hindus ashes flowing thru ganges
by italyseaayi on Dec 27, 2007 03:13 AM  Permalink
1. Mukerjee is talking Unity of Chr... and Mus... US is thinking taking Porkistan to stone age.
2. Mukerjee is thinking of all Mus... coming togehter.... From where? How? when?.. Looks like he is trying to scare Hindus.

I have seen this guys previous postings far Hindus, Far BJP. I wonder what happened to this man.??


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RE:Bajrangis will make hindus ashes flowing thru ganges
by . on Dec 27, 2007 03:17 AM  Permalink
thathagata is pakistani. so beware of him.


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RE:Bajrangis will make hindus ashes flowing thru ganges
by amit on Dec 27, 2007 03:23 AM  Permalink
There are two Tathagata, with a Tatha and Thath, the one you mentioned is not the one writing, see how evil masks itself under the veil, so indians be careful of antinationals

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Happy Kwanzaa
by amit on Dec 27, 2007 02:49 AM  Permalink 

Wishing all my african american friends Happy Kwanzaa

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THIS IS DISAPPOINTING
by JOHNSON J on Dec 27, 2007 02:46 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Why?
Why on earth?
For god's sake, when are we going to change?
what do we get by killing others?
I was in india, now i am in US. I know that all the indians in the US feel the same way. What can we do to stop all this?

Let India be the most peaceful country.
Lets live in harmony, loving, and caring for others...

Can we?
pleaaaaseeee???

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RE:THIS IS DISAPPOINTING
by Confused Mind on Dec 27, 2007 02:52 AM  Permalink
Peace is always pulsating. It is not a constant. Taking into consideration its size, problems and resources, India has done reasonably well and will do better in the years to come with more clarity and understanding about life, education, priorities and more sensible neighbours as well.

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RE:THIS IS DISAPPOINTING
by Sameer on Dec 27, 2007 03:12 AM  Permalink
All who are in US, UK, Aus they have to do somethinhg special for INdia, here christain allows there church for all hindus for doing their prayer!!! correct, those place where there is no hindu temple there, all hindus are using christain church for praying and servind hindu GOD!! why not same thing happen in INDIA? where hindu temple can be given to server christain people for theire prayer, this is shows the diff between christain and hindu, i know my all friends are hindus only but there are some third class and political people like modi, VHP creating probelm among all pople, I am sure if MODI, VHP, Bajranj is not there then all INDIANS can stay there very peaceful like aborad people are staying with other people, chrsitan can pray for theire GOD in hindu temple also. BUT for that only we need to do something, we have to educate indian people.

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RE:RE:THIS IS DISAPPOINTING
by Confused Mind on Dec 27, 2007 03:18 AM  Permalink
Why pray and waste time? Rather play soccer or cricket, or run some marathon that will make you a stronger individual with character and strength. Or apply your mind is some research or music etc. People in the West do these that why they don't care people wasting time and energy. Even the Christians do these in YMCA not talk.

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RE:THIS IS DISAPPOINTING
by tar sha on Dec 27, 2007 03:20 AM  Permalink
jan sangh came into existence very late. Do you think we were leaving peaceful life before that? Dont blame Modi/VHP without knowing history. And believe me; christians, muslims and jews have fought more wars in name of religion than hindus.

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RE:THIS IS DISAPPOINTING
by Janesh on Dec 27, 2007 03:49 AM  Permalink
JOHNSON,BECAUSE CHRISTIANS WANT TO FINISH OFF HINDUISM AND MAKE A CHRISTIAN NATION OUT OF INDIA? IS IT RIGHT OR WRONG?

IS IT RIGHT TO ATTACK A HINDU DURING X'MAS TIME WHICH MADE ALL THE VIOLENCE TO FOLLOW?

IF YOU ARE A KERALA XIAN YOU WILL BE ASHAMED AT THE BISHOPS' ANTI-CHRIST ATTITUDES AND THE ABHAYA CASE AND ITS PROGRESS.SO DON'T SAY CHRISTIANS ARE ALL WHITE AND HINDUS ARE ALL DARK.THAT IS VATICAN PROPAGANDA STARTED BY PETER WHO WANTED A THRONE WHICH EVEN JESUS NEVER COVETED.

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RE:RE:THIS IS DISAPPOINTING
by vijayan vasudevan on Dec 27, 2007 07:45 AM  Permalink
Please Read The Hindu News paper page 14 dated 26 December.. you will find the true story.. it was christians who started the violence.. Two groups of different sect of christians were involved in brawl in erecting an arch ( its more or like caste fight) , but they happen to beat up VHP leader who was passing along that way in his Ambassdor car.. Then the violence started.. This is how the communal violence starts.. Beware before blaming it on a peacful hindus!!!!!!!!

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Only in India
by Thathagata Mukherjee on Dec 27, 2007 02:33 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

In this civilised world, India is the only place in the world where christians are attacked for their religion. Not even in iraq or in any islamic countries..

Also indian hindus go to christian countries and enjoy their freedom, build luxurious mandirs and convert their people to hinduism with no trouble..


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RE:Only in India
by abhijit singh on Dec 27, 2007 02:45 AM  Permalink
oh really we dont know that thanx for enlightenment .have u ever lived in any tibal district where these missionaries works i dont think .i m frm one of the biggest tribal district and seen closely wht they do .these missionaries are nothing but creating a superstitions abt christ by using all unfair means,falls propaganda abt holy bible and all means of communication just go and see in any tribal district of chhattisgarh or jharkhand or mp .and then talk abt these all nonsense

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RE:Only in India
by Thathagata Mukherjee on Dec 27, 2007 02:54 AM  Permalink

Why are you so jealous about what missioneries doing?..Why cant you people do this care for the tribals?..Do you mean tribals and low castes always lead their lives as low casts?

Whats wrong if some unfortunate people get some good things of life like a dignified persion of the society?..Just dont blame missionaries for everything



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RE:Only in India
by Confused Mind on Dec 27, 2007 03:03 AM  Permalink
There is nothing called low-caste and high-caste. It is a distortion of the original concept. The idea is in order to run a society or even a indivdual properly one needs to imbibe 4 basic qualities of - Thinker (Bramhin), Protector (Kshatriya), Economist (Vaishya), Worker (Shudra). All of them are equal and do not exist in isolation. Even in life one has to imbibe all the 4 qualities to be successful. This concept will always be true everywhere in whatever profession people pursue. It has been distorted and abused by confused people over time.

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RE:RE:Only in India
by . on Dec 27, 2007 03:06 AM  Permalink
thathagata is pakistani. so beware of him.

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RE:Only in India
by . on Dec 27, 2007 03:05 AM  Permalink
agreed with abhijit.
u r talking abt tribal area. i tell u even in metro city like mumbai, i met one xtian missionery who tears apart photos of all hindu gods, preaches that only christ will save u and what not. the preacher is paid heftily by churches.
so if this is the situation in a metro, then u can imagine abt the cheating of uneducated tribal ppl in remote rural areas.

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RE:Only in India
by Confused Mind on Dec 27, 2007 02:40 AM  Permalink
Religion is the collection of best practices and values that allow us to develop, preserve, protect, enrich our body, mind, emotions, intellect, creativity and consciousness. This is also the basic principle of the survival and growth of any civilization and it is also the basis of ancient Indian philosophy. All the Western countries realized this and they also became secular. This is pure common sense. To live we need food, water, shelter which means, agriculture, farming, housing, sanitation, electricity, water distribution. Then we have flood, earthquakes and cyclones. We need to protect from those. Hence, we make best use of education, economics, science, technology to correct and make systems better & robust. We need to maintain them as it decays. In good times, we spend time in music, art, sports and it keeps our minds and body more healthy. We pursue medicine and create insurance plans etc. Develop financial systems to priortize efforts. Religion is One. The foundations are in India.

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RE:Only in India
by Thathagata Mukherjee on Dec 27, 2007 02:40 AM  Permalink

A typical bajrangi.!


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RE:Only in India
by Arvind Singh on Dec 27, 2007 04:31 AM  Permalink
Please tell us the story of erstwhile Y?ugoslavia, todays slovenia, Bosnia also Russia is another example, even though xtians and Muslims are blood brothers. Also please tell us the benefits of all Islamic religion way of life in Afganistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh. please also enlighten us on Iraq story from where Allah has already run away and left the muslims at the fates of veticans.
Thanks for enlightening us on the topic.

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Hindu Terrorists moving from Gujurat to Orissa
by Ahmad Nawaz on Dec 27, 2007 02:16 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Why was my message not posted by you rediff Hindu Fanatics and supporters of BJP and VHP!!!

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RE:Hindu Terrorists moving from Gujurat to Orissa
by anir on Dec 27, 2007 02:30 AM  Permalink
Ahmad,

Shame on u. News clearly says that FIRST anti-conversion leader was attacked.

The case is same as Godhra and later Gujarat.

But u guys have been pampered so much by the media and secular govt that u do not have basic honesty to accept the truth.

C'mon, people are dying because of ur stupid business of conversion.



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RE:Hindu Terrorists moving from Gujurat to Orissa
by Thathagata Mukherjee on Dec 27, 2007 02:36 AM  Permalink


The story of attack on saraswathy was a fake story made by VHP itself like in guj encounter..
IT was a planned fake attack by VHP itself to start violence during christmas.. Pls read other news service also..


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RE:Hindu Terrorists moving from Gujurat to Orissa
by abhijit singh on Dec 27, 2007 02:39 AM  Permalink
hey if ur so respectful and have any self respect then go and put ur masseges in some islamic site that would be better for u

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RE:Hindu Terrorists moving from Gujurat to Orissa
by Thathagata Mukherjee on Dec 27, 2007 02:43 AM  Permalink


Pls dont underestimate hindus with bajrangis..
There are two types of modern hindus:- moderate(decent ones) and bajrangis(terrorists)..

We never can see a moderate hindus in such situation.. but there are plenty of bajrangis here now..


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RE:Hindu Terrorists moving from Gujurat to Orissa
by dinesh agarwal on Dec 27, 2007 07:45 AM  Permalink
hello Tata-Ghata Mukherjeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

You have again changed your name, why not you come up with your true identity (if you really have an identity)

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