if these things done by other then u called them terrorist if same thing by u sys its secondary issues, will indian constitution allows the voilence if no then its important issue its not secondary issue both are equal dawood and VHP coz they are threat to indian peace
RE:Dawood Ibrahim is the maha maya
by Verghese on Dec 26, 2007 05:53 PM Permalink
Very true, When they dont want to reveal things they simply blame Pakistan or say it is Dawood or Huji or Huja.For your information - Kashmiri Hindus were not driven away by militants who wanted them to stay so that they have a credibility to their movement..It is Indian government who facilitated their transfer so that they can carry out their operations in ease.Just imagine what would have happened if the army burnt out their houses - our army would have completely lost out the credibility as it would have shown that both Hindu and Muslim Kashmiris are suffering due to our rule on Kashmir.
RE:RE:Dawood Ibrahim is the maha maya
by on Dec 27, 2007 05:49 AM Permalink
Way to go Verghese!!! Politicians are the one who are to blame for all the mess going around...BJP would play the hindus...Cong would try to play the minority vote bank...some one else would come out with reservations...and what not to get a few votes and a few years of the "chair"...the question they need to ask themselves in the end is...was it worth it?playing man against man..playing brother against brother....
RE:Nefarious Hindu elements cause strife, Indian Police create illusions
by Mbt on Dec 26, 2007 05:52 PM Permalink
Rirght After failing to catch the real culpirits of all those blast our govt is just splashing the gestures toward these people...
First tell me before Babri masjiod demolition how many blasts were done by Muslims to target hindus. Werent we living peacefully until the BJP and congress destroyed babari masjid. Majority of the people killed during the riots were muslims bcoz the police openly supported the hindus. As far as the bomb blasts are concerned most were done by the Kashmir militants which has nothing to do with Indian muslims. Majority of the muslims are just worried about their daily bread and nothing else.The accuation that other religious people oppresed hindus is not true yes that migth be true during mughal rule but not after independence.
RE:To Krishamohan
by Sohaan Subhankar on Dec 26, 2007 05:54 PM Permalink
i am replying to ur blog."First tell me before Babri masjiod demolition how many blasts were done by Muslims to target hindus." for while lets forget BJP's Intention to demolish Babri mashzid. bt here being a muslim urself ur telling Many blasts done by mushlims to target Hindus.. and at the same time ur telling police supporting mushlims and poor mushlims who bothers their daily bread are killed. So My Questin is first u be clear or urelf what u want, u want daily bread like all hindus or u want to do some more blasts to take revenge of babri demolition. the problem is never with political parties because all are the same.So the question is up to we hindu mushlims to realize the fact that lets forget everything and think of our future and life. being an educated man..u r still nt clear then what u expect from those un-educated fellows.. Dear Mushlim brothers it's time for u to wake up and stop blaming any xyz.. like they say charity begins at home.. same way ur thinking should start from u at first....
RE:To Krishamohan
by khan on Dec 26, 2007 06:01 PM Permalink
Dude its very clear what I have writeen but what u have writeen doesn%u2019t make any sense. My point is politicians are playing the communal trick to divide and rule that%u2019s it. The common man on both sides wants peace so read what I have written properly then comment.
RE:To Krishamohan
by rajan on Dec 26, 2007 06:00 PM Permalink
when comes to you, u r shifting ur responsibility. has anyone talked/done anything for kashmiri hindus. there may be violence against musilms, but dont generalise that. like good muslims, there are lots of good hindus, they are not part of this. so dont go by arthmetic. hindus outnumbered musilms in death toll. why dont u openly come forward and crticise the jehadis. nobody has the guts to do it. first u people come out against terrosim of all form. then we will accept your sincearity.
RE:To Krishamohan
by aska simon sadanand on Dec 26, 2007 05:57 PM Permalink
Khan is partialy right, the difference between two comuntiies has increased many fold after the babri masjid issue, taking advantage of this the politicaly community is exploiting the ordinary citizens. The basic duty of learned elders from all communities should discourage harming others vigiurously through various forums.
RE:To Krishamohan
by khan on Dec 26, 2007 05:49 PM Permalink
Again u are taking Kashmir issue and blaming all the muslims for it.I agree there have been minor riots but that is bound to happen in a multi-religious society but the divide was evident after the babri masjid demolition. Humans have the natural instinct to fight even if religion wasn%u2019t there we will fight based on caste, color or language.
RE:To Krishamohan
by Vasanth Srinivas on Dec 26, 2007 06:01 PM Permalink
Oh.. so we should not blame the entire community for Kashmir issue. Fine. Then why do you blame the whole community for Babri Masjid demolition? Have you forgotten the demolitions of temples by your forefathers - Aurangazeb, Ghajini. They are not myth. THey are history. We accepted it and we lived with it. Why can't you do that for this issue....? Even if you got an excuse that it happened long time before, what about the direct action day taken by you during partition....? Over a million killed all over India. Since media was not far reachable those days, no one can hide the truth. If you want the "peaceful" acts of your community, go and search the web now. All the information - past and present is available in a click away. I am not talking about the indian muslims. The whole community.
RE:To Krishamohan
by shahid khan on Dec 26, 2007 06:16 PM Permalink
Dear Brothers khan and vasanth Demolition of somnath and demolition of babri mosque both are history , but one is a modern history another is 1000 years old history both but both are black spot on our face , you see both times rulers were invoved , common man has nothing to do with it . We should remember the history to improve our present and brighten our future.
RE:RE:To Krishamohan
by khan on Dec 26, 2007 06:06 PM Permalink
Dear Srinivas ur logic is questionable incase ur great grand father commited a crime and u being caught for it now does it make any sense. If u want to compare the mughal rule when there were no human rights or democracy and the present situation its your problem
RE:To Krishamohan
by Vasanth Srinivas on Dec 26, 2007 06:12 PM Permalink
My claim is not that. When we had the tolerance during the mughal rule, why not you have the same level of tolerance now..?
RE:To Krishamohan
by Sachidanand Shetty on Dec 26, 2007 06:17 PM Permalink
Muslim League was the first party who started religius politics before partition then they demanded seperate country for Muslims this is the first & formost reason for major conflects in Indian subcontinent. Babri Masjid problem was there when Babar was demolished.
RE:To Krishamohan
by Postwala on Dec 26, 2007 08:26 PM Permalink
Do you ever know a place called Hyderabd in south India. leaving in Old city since 1984. We would atleast have 5 curfew holidays a year,
RE:We can get DAWOOD
by krishnamohan chandrahasan on Dec 26, 2007 05:43 PM Permalink
are you crazy ? Both countries are nuclear armed and a full fledged war would mean nothing except leave both countries destroyed or totally handicapped....dawood is a bad guy no doubt,but not the main threat....the best (and the only ) options we have are to strengthen our security,diminish corruption (so that there are no rats within us),improve our economy so that we can be seen as a global power and then continue putting dipomatic pressure.
RE:mr. Naik - attack by VHP on Churches is a secondary issue
by naik on Dec 26, 2007 05:43 PM Permalink
if these things done by other then u called them terrorist if same thing by u sys its secondary issues, will indian constitution allows the voilence if no then its important issue its not secondary issue both are equal dawood and VHP coz they are threat to indian peace
RE:RE:mr. Naik - attack by VHP on Churches is a secondary issue
by GN on Dec 26, 2007 05:49 PM Permalink
i dont support religious conversions. How you will treat a enuch who is canvassing your son to convert and become one of them ? be honest and answer, If you a muslim , what you will do with the hindu or christian boy trying to canvass and convince your daughter to marry him and get converted to his religion. Even you will do the same what VHP did.
I dont support either VHP action against churches and niether do I support the christian apporach of canvassing and converting.
But any ways this things cannot be comparable to activities of Terrorism headed by ISI
There is enough evidence to show that Dawood helped OBC/Dalit/Muslim slum dwellers in Bombay. He himself being a Dalit Muslim, he understod the pain of centuries suffered by Bahujans of India. Muslims should unite with SC/ST/OBCs to capture power at the center. Otherwise every Muslim's fate will be of Dawood.
