Our ancestors left India more than hundred yrs ago. We are now Hindus settled in USA.
So, why do I support Modi. What is there for me? Someone asked me that question.
And my asnwer was he makes me feel like a proud Hindu. Therefore, my future generations in USA or anywhere else in the world will also feel proud to be a Hindu.
Being a Hindu, this is very important for me.
Wrt secularism, Hindu philosophy is nothing but secular and therefore for thousands of yrs, Hindus in Bharat have accommodated various faiths, languages, cultures, traditions, etc, etc..
We have been raised to be secular from birth and therefore, we donot need lectures from so called 'sickularists'.
RE:MODI MAKES ME FEEL LIKE A PROUD HINDU
by on Dec 25, 2007 12:05 AM Permalink
What proud? A nation where a terrorist can become a chief minister again and again, shame!! And Hindu, A persian word the name given to people living there only by Muslims, They got a recognition only when muslims came to India.
RE:MODI MAKES ME FEEL LIKE A PROUD HINDU
by on Dec 25, 2007 12:20 AM Permalink
If you can be proud of Popes and Archbishops whose hands are soaked ewith the blood of 20 million people in 2000 years of Xian lies and Inquistion what you are complaining about/ Let's assume Hindus killed those Paki scums in Gujarat. We have still have another 14 million odd to kill to even the scores.
Incidentally, I conducted a probe on the lines of Bannerge commision and I found all the left-behind pakistanis killed themselves to blame Modi
With over two million known species, the Kingdom Animalia is the largest grouping in classification of living things. Its members are divided into approximately 30 phyla. Over 95 percent of animal species are invertebrates (without back bones). Invertebrates include a vast array of varied organisms in many different phyla, from sponges to insects. It is believed that as many as 10 million species may still await discovery. Vertebrates form part of the Phylum Chordata. Although they total only about 45000 species, they include the largest and most familiar members of the animal kingdom, and also human beings.
Why the all power almighty could not make the other animals worship him? Why he could not send a prophet to the lions or tigers????
RE:Why only human-beings worship?????
by on Dec 24, 2007 11:18 PM Permalink
There is temple in Triplicane Chennai- Thirvateeshwarar Temple where the Linga was in the bushes. One of the cows of the (usurper) Nawab of Arcot were found giving less milk and the Noob sent his spy to find out. The spy (for a change even mosie tell truth) dutifully told the noob that the cow vanished behind some bush and disgorged it's milk. Hence the servants of the noob (idiotic hindus) came and duly found the Shivling. A temple was built and till date that cultist still supplies milk to the temple (if Mohd knows this he will surely deny him his houris). So animals are known to worship real deities not suffering convict on the cross who claimed he came for the redemption of Jews but that clever fraudster Paul mconverted the cult into a following!
The Hindu is a daily popular in Chennai. This newspaper should actually be called 'The Anti Hindu'. There are a bunch of jokers in The Hindu headed by N Ram, who fancy themselves as 'intellectuals, 'think tank' and that sort.
When an American xian missionarry was attacked in Kerala there was a an article in front page with photos. But the very next day it was found that the US missionary was fraud and was arrested for visa violations. This was somwhere in the corner in the newspaper. Also I have not seen any article so far on Kashmiri hindus or any of the good things Modi has done. Many of the self styled intellectuals in this board, particularly from south must be definitely subscribers to The Hindu. I read The Hindu regularly to bash them. I want The Hindu also to be added to the black listed english media.
RE:Subscribers to 'The Hindu'' newspaper
by . on Dec 24, 2007 11:46 PM Permalink
all the eng media r the same. even many hindus educated by so-called good (convent/eng)schools r hindu by name only but do not follow hindu religion. similar is the case with 'hindu' daily u r talking abt. just hindu by name but pseudo by their work.
RE:Subscribers to 'The Hindu'' newspaper
by on Dec 25, 2007 12:11 AM Permalink
I too agree, I have been reading The Hindu for many years, it is one sided news paper and always been an anti-Hindu. N. Ram is a leftist and Pseudo secularist, he takes pride in this. There are so many ignorant souls, who buy into his Pseudo secularism and believe his often one sided anti-Hindu stories. I would say, The Hindu is the worst news paper in India and is not the paper for genuine and impartial news. So many times, I have sent letters to the editor, pointing their bias but not even once they published or acknowledged that they have received my response.
All most all of the letters published are the ones that praise the Hindu articles, I dont remember seeing any letters criticizing it. The Hindu is the disgrace for Indian journalism and news media.
RE:Subscribers to 'The Hindu'' newspaper
by on Dec 25, 2007 12:16 AM Permalink
Guys believe me he has turned Catholic is the chief adviser of CBCI (Bishop council of India), he is a rabid xian freak. I know that punk. Back in late 60's hewhen travelling to China was illegal he wastravelled frequently with that lumpen Karat. They organized an anti american film during Vietnam war in the Plaza Theatre (uncensored).
RE:Subscribers to 'The Hindu'' newspaper
by on Dec 24, 2007 11:10 PM Permalink
Don't you know that Ram like Blair has turned catholic since he married Mariam or like Roberto Feroze Khan nee Rajiv. This r*scal was funded 70 crores by the Vatican to purchase the shares of other family members
RE:B raman has started showing his true brahminist face
by on Dec 24, 2007 11:08 PM Permalink
Frustrated saying of a bishops' toilet cleaner and back side polisher.
RE:B raman has started showing his true brahminist face
by Vasanth Srinivas on Dec 24, 2007 11:48 PM Permalink
And you must be a SC kock sukker of a muslim man
RE:RE:B raman has started showing his true brahminist face
by on Dec 24, 2007 11:39 PM Permalink
that is true nature of christian converts- they lick the albinos for the crubs they throw at you. Did your father or grandfather not change his religion for a loaf of bread and toilet cleaning job with your white stinking albino bishop who spewed lies at the pulpit about that drunkard who that gangster Paul claimed was the SON?
RE:B raman has started showing his true brahminist face
by Manjunathan Padua on Dec 24, 2007 11:42 PM Permalink
San man ! You are crack pot san man !!! ... there is nothing brahminical in this article...even if is there ....it not harming any body !!!! what Raman is saying is the fact .. Victory of Modi proves it.
You are crazy and coward, who thinks anybody with the name Ram/Raman is bad or brahmins. Most brahmins are good ppl ! ...you must be a congress or cpm guy !
RE:B raman has started showing his true brahminist face
by candidreview on Dec 24, 2007 11:45 PM Permalink
you are bigot yourself raking caste. look yourself in mirror
RE:B raman has started showing his true brahminist face
by on Dec 24, 2007 11:56 PM Permalink
san man, before your next "Service" call on the bishop read a gist on the Psychology of Prophetism in the next few pages. You can increase your IQ to 5 and can proudly resist the Bishop's overtures.
RE:B raman has started showing his true brahminist face
by JGN on Dec 24, 2007 11:09 PM Permalink
1. Brahmins are only 3-4% of population. They were never the rulers of the country. No system like caste system could exist just because 3-4% of population wants it.
2. Caste system was primarily developed by the Kings, merchants and rich farmers who found it advantageous to put down the labor class and they conveniently used some idiot priests to approve the system and then they used it to their advantage. 3. Caste system exists in Japan, Nigeria, etc. The slavery in America was really horrible and that was sanctioned by The Bible and The Koran also!!!!!!!! So much for the compassion so-called prophets!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:RE:RE:B raman has started showing his true brahminist face
by on Dec 24, 2007 11:44 PM Permalink
Lying is the hallmark of Popes and Archbishops haven't they done it for 2000 years and fool intelectually challenged beings who can't think and thereby got many converts in India to was their back sides and for "SERVICE" service the church is very much known for- was it not in the Church the term Pedo.... invented. Does not the unholy book talk of SODOM?
I like your Informative Writing and always wait eagerly to see your articles...Very Very Informative, and U R 100% Right, people outside India who R proud to be Indians support Shri Shri Modiji in astronomical numbers. I think Modiji now has created a Wave of nationalism, and I can see that from my fellow South Indians who R very frustrated at the behavior of our ruling NoProgress Party. Modiji's landslide victory is the best Xmas Gift I have received, I was so excited to see the numbers...I wish Modiji a Long Life and Great Future for Gujarat as well as India. Maybe I should add "What Gujarat does Today, rest of India should do Tomorrow". Finally it may be better for all of us to use the word "Sanatani" in place of "Hindu". I am very proud to descend from 10000 years old Glorious Culture, extremely proud to claim my Brahmanic Heritage and now feel Great because of our Man of Steele, the One and Only Shri Shri Modiji. Modiji U have made all of us proud who always think about India in their minds even though they might not be in India. Jai Hind Hope Today's Gujarat Would be Tomorrow's India A Great Admirer of Modiji
We should all get one thing straight. Modi's win is not a win of Hindus against (Indian) muslims. It is a reaffirmation of what Hindus can accomplish if united; it is a reminder of the legitimate grievances of the Hindus and a rejection of pseudosecularism as clearly described by Mr Raman.
That said, let us hasten to remind ourselves that it is not Indian muslims who are a problem, it is the Congresswallahs and the pseudosecularists and the communists who have called Hindus fundamentalists for even defending their religion from the Mullahs and the Missionaries and for supporting their way of life. The muslims if left to themselves will not behave the way they do when encouraged by these real enemies of India. Look at the inspiring comments of Mr Ghulam Noon of the UK (the spice king), or of other average muslims. What needs to be done is to bring Indian muslims into the mainstream, to make them feel equal citizens of India. Most of them are patriotic and love India and would work for the greatness of the country if they are not influenced by the Communists and Congresswallahs. Hindus and Muslims must get together and eject these real enemies of India. India of the future will be stronger, greater and a real example to the world of what true unity and secularism can achieve. The Hindus, History shows, can live and work with any religion and difference. Indian muslims must do the same and live as Indians and Hindus' brothers first before identifying with anyone or a
RE:Modi Win
by Venkat Ramana on Dec 24, 2007 11:12 PM Permalink
This is a very dangerous line of thinking and as I would say that of 'self-deciet', that Hindus have led themselves to believe in for last 1200 years. Its good to say that there are good Muslims etc blah blah. But you need to go deep into their ideaology and history. Time and again Hindus have lost power due to tyrannical invaders's cunningness and rabid inhuman practices. So, its time for Hindus to get organised and be under an united umbrella. Strength demands respect and not back-bending. India has been and is a Hindu Country. Be proud to proclaim that.
Let us assume that all hindus are very bad. But why the Muslims of East Pakistan (now Bengaldesh) and West Pakistan could not live in harmony? According to a report of Bengladeshi Journalist, Mr. Haroon Habib, the death toll in Bengladesh in 1971 was about 30 lakhs. Still some three lakh Bengladeshis (mostly Bihari muslims) are livng in UN sponsored refugee camps. Recently the Bengladeshi Govt has agreed to grant half of them citizenship and the fate of rest is still hanging fire as they are not ready to forgive them for the atrocities committed in connivance with the occupational forces of West Pakistan. Also more than 100 Palestani who fled their country due to the persecution of another sect of their own religion are presently in UN sponsored refugee camps in Delhi. Is Mr. Modi responsible for all these????????????
If Barkha Dutt and Pranob Roy are ashamed of their Hindu origins, they should convert. They would be welcomed in many Islamic nations. How openly they would be able speak is a different matter. If they don't like their brown skin, they can also get a white skin like their idol Sonia Gandhi. Modern medical facilities has made is possible and easy. If they don't have money for that, world wide Hindus would be glad to run a charity campaign for this great cause.
In the past century, people belonging to the Hindu-Buddhist cultural sphere have started projecting the characteristics of their own spiritual masters on the monotheist prophets. Thus, when Jesus says: %uFFFDThe Kingdom of God is among you%uFFFD, meaning %uFFFDI, Jesus, am the Kingdom of God%uFFFD, these good-natured Orientals take it to mean: %uFFFDThe Kingdom of God is inside of you, waiting to be discovered through meditation.%uFFFD They have started to say that the prophets were a kind of yogis who taught their followers a way to attain a divine state of consciousness.
In fact, prophecy is radically different from yoga: it means allowing an outside entity, which in the case of monotheism is called Yahweh/God/Allah, to blow certain consciousness contents into your mind. Consciousness is not turned inward, but is (or believes it is) communicating with another Being. Moreover, the mind is not being emptied of its contents and made to rest in itself, as it is in yoga; on the contrary, it is being filled with a message beyond one%uFFFDs control. The prophet receives a certain information: prophecy is like talking, though with an unusual partner via an unusual channel; but yoga is silence. Lastly, if it is correct that prophethood is a mental aberration and a delusion, then that makes it the very antithesis of yoga, which is an undisturbed and realistic awareness of pure consciousness.
Yoga is not an erratic and disturbing experience which befalls yo
RE:Psychology of Prohetism
by on Dec 24, 2007 10:49 PM Permalink
Yoga is not an erratic and disturbing experience which befalls you and drives you to tirades of doom and to outbursts against your fellow men. It is a systematic discipline and makes the practitioner calm and serene. The word yoga means discipline, control (it is also translated as uniting: not the soul with an outsider called God, but the mind with its object, i.e. concentration). Since its field of working is consciousness, it is not interested in outward experiences such as recognition and glorification, or martyrdom. There is nothing dramatic about yoga, in stark contrast to the dramas enacted and encountered by the prophets. The most remarkable difference between the prophets%uFFFD discourse and that of the rishis, is certainly this. The prophets all talk about themselves a lot. They think they are very special, this one person in this one body is different from the rest and has an exclusive relationship with the Creator. But the rishis talked about a universal way, a world order in which we all participate, a state of consciousness we can all achieve. If God is defined as that which transcends all worldly differences, the One above the Many, then this universalism is far more divine than the prophets%uFFFD exclusivism.
What Hindus who have been trapped in a sentimental glorification of Jesus and other prophets will have to learn, is that the essence of Hindu Dharma is not is not %uFFFDtolerance, or equal respect for all religions, but Satya, truth
RE:RE:Psychology of Prohetism
by on Dec 24, 2007 10:50 PM Permalink
The problem with Christianity and Islam is superficially their intolerance and fanaticism. But this intolerance is a consequence of these religions%uFFFD untruthfulness: if your belief system is based on delusions, you have to pre-empt rational inquiry into it and shield it from contact with more sustainable thought systems. The fundamental problem with the monotheist religions is not that they are intolerant, but that they are untrue, (Asatya or Anrita).
At this point many Hindus will be sincerely shocked, they will object, and Christian polemists will express the same objection: %uFFFDBy denouncing some religions as untrue, you are making a pretentious claim to knowing the ultimate truth.%uFFFD In the case of Christians who know and believe the essence of their religion, this objection is highly insincere, as they themselves are confidently claiming to possess the ultimate, God-given truth. Otherwise, the objection against absolute truth-claims may be valid. The point is that by denouncing the defining beliefs of Christianity (and similarly, Islam) as untrue, we are not making a claim to know the final truth. The quest for the final truth remains open. When scientists find that a certain hypothesis is empirically disproves, they henceforth treat it as untrue and move on to more promising hypotheses; this does not imply a pretentious claim to ultimate truth. It is simply that once a belief is found to be untrue, we should not burden ourselves with it anymore,...
RE:RE:RE:Psychology of Prohetism
by on Dec 24, 2007 10:52 PM Permalink
so that we can keep ourselves free for something more true.
There are other respects also in which Christianity and Sanatana Dharma are radically different. Christianity worships a suffering convict on the cross, and consequently glorifies suffering. To a woman who was heavily suffering, mother Teresa wrote: %uFFFDYou should be grateful for this suffering. It is Christ%uFFFDs way of kissing you.%uFFFD
In a sense, there is something to it that %uFFFDhardships are the spice of life, they mould the perfect man%uFFFD. Even so, the unabashed glorification of happiness is a far healthier attitude than the glorification of suffering. Hardships will come anyway, but it is morbid to focus the mind on them unnecessarily. When Christians hear Chinese people wish each other %uFFFDmuch wealth%uFFFD or in fact %uFFFDmuch money%uFFFD, on New Year%uFFFDs day, they find it rather shocking. When they see depictions of Lakshmi or Ganesh, with all their opulence and well-being and endless generosity, they find something is very wrong. At any rate, it is a kind of iconography which you will not find in any church. Like Christianity, several Sanatana traditions, esp. Buddhism, focus on suffering. But they have an unambiguous verdict: suffering is the problem, we offer a way out of it. The common-sense position of mainstream Hindu sources like the Bhagavad Gita is that suffering is a fact of life, that we have to bravely face it, that enduring it makes us stronger; but not that we should glorify it.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Psychology of Prohetism
by on Dec 24, 2007 10:53 PM Permalink
In Christianity, a straightforward remedy against suffering is always resented as a bit selfish; since we are sinners, suffering is what we deserve.
This attitude to suffering is symptomatic of the single most harmful characteristic of Christianity: its lack of balance. In traditional Pagan and secular systems of ethics, the principle of the Golden Mean is duly emphasized (Aristotle, Confucius, Buddha); by contrast, Christianity fosters a sentimental extremism.
The only Bible books that consist of lucid observations about life, are non-prophetic books like Proverbs and Qohelet (Ecclesiastes). They belong to a section of the Old Testament called Ketuvim, %uFFFDWritings%uFFFD, for which no divine source is claimed. Their source is just human and normal, rather like any collection of quotations or %uFFFDCollected Proverbs from the Middle East%uFFFD. These sayings range from the trivial and uninspired to the witty and the profound. Some good, some not so good, a few gems: your average human product. These human sayings have some good advice to offer on how to conduct life; in the prophetic revelations, it is hard to find any such good advice.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Psychology of Prohetism
by on Dec 24, 2007 10:57 PM Permalink
Prophetism has caused innumerable hardships without giving anything valuable in return. Not one of the valuable things in the cultures dominated by it, can be traced to their prophetic-monotheistic component. Its source has more often than not been mental darkness. Today, there is no justification for keeping humanity in the mental prison of prophetism any longer. From the book (available online) Psychology of Prophetism - A Secular Look at the Bible by Koenraad Elst
RE:Psychology of Prohetism
by Roger Binny on Dec 25, 2007 01:53 AM Permalink
I don't understand why we hindus have to explain our religion to fanatical identities of this world? Hinduism is a way of life. It is not a cult or religion of one person. It is about living beings. So to all fanatics you won't understand it. Go get your 16 or 21 virgin, drink wine, eat pork and be merry.
VICTORY of Modi represents the defeat ofthe pseudo seculaists of congress and NDtv,propogenda against him. It has proooved that a true hindu is the best secular peron.Hindu religion is basically a truely secular religion. arun
