HATS OFF B. RAMAN. You Rock! Thanks to Rediff for having B.Raman deliver these colums. Hats off to Gujarat people. They voted in high numbers and spoke with one voice to select right party and leader. People who work hard for the state and people's welfare, development and security(which is exactly what Mr. Modi has done) gets to be their leader. Mr. Modi is moving forward. Its shame to see Burkha dutt and Prannoy Roy unable to move forward, still stuck in 2002. They should officially join Congress Party and strip themselves of their journalist profession.
Modi can display cynicism of a dispassionate journalist. Karan Thapar recalls when he interviewed Modi, long before he became the CM, he derided the RSS run schools as complete failures in comparison to the Bhavans. Modi is a strong leader, as Raman says he kindles the Hindu pride. However, unlike Bharatiyar, who epoused it for a selfless cause -the freedom struggle,- Modi does it for political gains, which is fine. However, the self-styled secular media's lament is not without reason. The daylight murders of women and children in Gujrat warrant justice. What about killings indulged by Islamic militants, displacement of Kashmiri Pundits, bomb blasts claiming innocent lives all across India, yes I hear the counterpoints. You are all right they need justice just as those who were butchered in Godhra and elsewhere in Gujrat following the incident. What is undesirable is the numbness to murder and mayhem. The poll result is typical of Gujrat. For Gujratis nothing matters more than their Dhanda and Dharm, (business and religion) in that order. Modi played to these ground realities and struck a chord with the electorate. All said, he is a pracharak gone power hungry. As a pracharak he leads a life dedicated to service of the country and his culture, as a power hungry politician he will not bat an eye to repeat a post Godhra pogrom. My two cents; I may have got everything wrong.
RE:Gujrat strongman Modi
by on Dec 25, 2007 12:28 AM Permalink
What is your bet on the Pope not repeating the genocides of the past 2000 years and Inquistion. Or the Cardinals passion for young boys?
RE:Gujrat strongman Modi
by Johny Dayal on Dec 25, 2007 12:53 AM Permalink
Holding fierce pride in their identity, Sikhs have for decades been seen as off-limits by the missionary machine but not anymore. In a alarming trend, evangelism has begun to tread on the Sikh faith as well. Every aspect of Punjabi society is being overwhelmed with this new wave of assertive anti-national Christianity. Besides programs in Hindi, Punjabi TV channels have been deluged by Christian programs even though the Christian population of Punjab is less than 1%. Taking aim at Sikh youth, animated films and childrens books on Christianity are freely distributed by missionaries. Because of the strong adherence to tradition by Sikhs, missionaries have attempted to repackage Christianity. Jesus is called Satguru, church is referred to as Satsang and choir singing is called Kirtan. Choir boys in Punjabi churches wear turbans to attempt to minimize the variation between Sikhism and Christianity. However, despite these attempts to disguise Christianity as a version of Sikhism, missionaries still cannot hide their intent: to destroy the Sikh faith & Indian culture. The lead is taken by Malayali christians with money from US, Uk & before long priests will start their pastime of molesting kids.
RE:Gujrat strongman Modi
by Vijay Taleppadi on Dec 25, 2007 01:19 AM Permalink
What happened in Godhra was wrong. But why hold Modi responible for that. If any one have proof, they should approach the Supreme Court for deliverance of Justice. Most of the guys who complain against Modi conveniently forget the atrocities commited by Congi men like Jagdish Tytler etc after the death of Ms Indira Gandhi. Rajiv Gandhi even justfied the killings. Where are those NGO's who fight for justice for the people of Godhra. We will appreciate their effort more if they fight with same zeal against the Congi goons who murdered more than 3000 sikhs mostly women and children. Are sikh lives cheaper than the lives of other minorities.
RE:Gujrat strongman Modi
by kailash bishnoi on Dec 25, 2007 12:17 AM Permalink
Yes. You have got most of it wrong. This part of Kashmiri Hindus being denied justice is correct. Its more like your Half cent.
You convert "san man" for money you have sold your culture to Rome, so why the hell you all worried about the casteism in Indian culture. It's our internal matter we know how to over come this issue, go and lick Pop's feet you will be rewarded more. Jai Shri Ram.
RE:Now all the converts will try to divide us (Hindus) in the name of Caste...
by Johny Dayal on Dec 25, 2007 12:32 AM Permalink
A Roman Catholic nun pleaded no contest yesterday to two counts of indecent behavior with a child in connection with accusations from the 1960s when she was a principal and teacher at a Catholic school in Milwaukee. The nun, Norma Giannini, 79, faces up to 20 years in prison for what prosecutors say was sexual abuse of two male students. Although dozens of nuns have been accused of sexual abuse, often in civil lawsuits, Sister Giannini is one of the first to face criminal charges, said Anne Barrett Doyle, co-director of BishopAccountability.org, a group that compiles reports about abuse in the Roman Catholic Church. Mary Pat Fox, president of Voice of the Faithful, a lay group formed in response to the Catholic sexual abuse scandal, said she hoped the case would encourage more victims of nuns to come forward. I think this is the tip of the iceberg, Ms. Fox said. According to a criminal complaint filed by the Milwaukee County district attorneys office, Sister Giannini repeatedly assaulted the two boys while they were in middle school at St. Patrick School. The complaint said the assaults included intercourse and occurred in numerous locations, including a convent and a classroom.
RE:Now all the converts will try to divide us (Hindus) in the name of Caste...
by Johny Dayal on Dec 25, 2007 12:28 AM Permalink
Surat, December 18 Around 2,000 tribal men and women from different villages in South Gujarat, who had converted to Christianity, re-embraced Hinduism on Monday evening at a religious ceremony ( sammelan) at the Shivaji ground in Tapi district.
They took an oath by the fire in the presence of Jagat Guru Acharya Narendra Maharaj and submitted affidavits that they won't convert to Christianity ever again in the future.
The people had started gathering at the venue since Sunday night listening to the Jagat Guru's teaching before re-converting to Hinduism at the ceremony a day later.
Narayan Solanki, a disciple of Narendra Maharaj in Tapi district said, "There are many disciples of the Maharaj working in different villages of Vyara, Dharampur, Songadh, Mandvi, Ahwa-Dang, Vasda and so on. They visit these places and interact with the tribals who have been baptised earlier by various missionaries and convince them to return back to Hinduism."
According to Solanki, the Maharaj also runs an ashram at Naneej village in Ratnagiri district of Maharashtra. It was after a visit to one such ashram that they became motivated to become his disciples. "We visit different villages and persuade those, who have been baptised, to come back into the Hindu fold," said Solanki.
RE:RE:Now all the converts will try to divide us (Hindus) in the name of Caste...
by on Dec 25, 2007 12:26 AM Permalink
Before you do read further read Rupert Hughes "Why I quit going to Church" You will learn about the false cult of the self proclaimed SON and drunkard (who used to get sozzled on wine) no doubt you fools immerse yourself on Christmas a day you celeberate as the birtday of a mythological person who was never born (maybe he was still born)
RE:Now all the converts will try to divide us (Hindus) in the name of Caste...
by Johny Dayal on Dec 25, 2007 12:45 AM Permalink
Scores of internationally funded Christian missionaries with tens of thousands of operatives in India are targeting Harijans, Dalits & SCs among Hindus for conversion to Christianity with grains & money. One of their arguments against the dalits continuance in Hinduism is that Hinduism imposed untouchability & degradation and isolation upon the Dalits. The multi-national Christian (MNC) enterprises say that in Christianity, there is NO untouchability & universal brother hood & Jesus Christs message of compassion would enable Indian Dalit converts to surpass the upper castes in Hinduism. This is totally hollow & false is obvious if we look at inhumanity Christianity practiced on lesser breeds of men. Christian nations & standard bearers like Portugal, Netherlands, UK,Spain and Italy practised slavery in the most despicable way. These nations launched business enterprises to buy black African natives in Africa from local agents some of whom were chiefs of the native tribes. The companies of these Christian countries built castles the grandest of which was the Cape Coast Castle in Gold Coast now Ghana. There were 30 such slave-holding forts, to built and maintained by the European Christian trading powers; Swedes, Danes, French, British, Dutch and Portuguese. Slaves purchased from slave hunters were impounded in these castles till slave ships transported them across the Atlantic to the US & West Indies to work in cotton fields.
RE:Now all the converts will try to divide us (Hindus) in the name of Caste...
by on Dec 25, 2007 12:47 AM Permalink
The read "Islam through Hadis - Religious faith or fanaticsm" by Ram swarup. you will read about the exploits of the world's first terrorist and cult leader who raped a 8 year old Ayesha. The full book is available online in bharatvani .org. Can you tell me why you guys changed your Qibla from Jerusalem to Mecca? And you talk of post Godhra?
If you don't want to blv this then read Anwar Sheikh or Ali Sinha and why they abhor the cult of Islam. Do you still blv the 72 houris and pearl like boys promise in after life?
RE:RE:Now all the converts will try to divide us (Hindus) in the name of Caste...
by on Dec 25, 2007 12:53 AM Permalink
You must read through the entire contents of the Satymevjayate site in flex website. There you can read about your "Prophet of terror messenger of peace"; Wondroust treatment of Women in islam: "X-rated Paradise of Islam"; "The Excessive Kindness Of Islam" "Mohammed's High Regard For Women" Mohammed - "A True Saint" etc. After reading that tell me about Islam
RE:RE:Now all the converts will try to divide us (Hindus) in the name of Caste...
by Roger Binny on Dec 25, 2007 01:36 AM Permalink
Listen to you kooolie Keralite,,,I am a muslim I hate Christian,,,but I don't hate Hindus...Go back to mid east and serve your masters. You are disease on this nation. RSS and litter? What is Islam? A cowardly religion, founded by a faceless evil,,,who kill innocent for the ideolgy, who convert people by force,,,who keep women as chattel and slaves,,,who rape and molest young kids for ideology. Get a grip you cockroche,,,hide your face somewhere before I find it.
RE:Now all the converts will try to divide us (Hindus) in the name of Caste...
by Tamil Arasan on Dec 25, 2007 12:29 AM Permalink
"Mahakavi "Every relegion have internal conflict Example between Irish and England(Catholicism and Protestantism) ,Suny and Shia(Muslims). In Google any body can write anything, more over what you say may have happened beyond BC which has no proper authentication. We know how to reform our self, go and clean your self first...Atleast we don't have such conflict in modern days like you...
RE:Now all the converts will try to divide us (Hindus) in the name of Caste...
by Tamil Arasan on Dec 25, 2007 12:45 AM Permalink
"Mahakavi" Don't drag the things, I don't need any data from US. Because they don't know the value of family life, there most of the Kids will be away from parents at the age of 16 to 18. Unlike my culture where I look after my parents dutifully till the end of their life, in US there is no family value reason is I Fallow Hinduism they don't. So every relegion has Plus and Minus the way you people post hatred messages against Hinduism will make as more aggressive and United!!
RE:Top ten reasons to be a proud Hindu
by on Dec 25, 2007 12:02 AM Permalink
What about Jesus if he is of Immaculate Concetion from Virgin Mary how come the unholy book describes the seed of David the the lecher grandfather of Joseph. Was not David the most lecherous character in that unholy concoted book more lecherous than Lot, Abraham or Moses? What about Magadelene. Shall I unleas the true character of Mary?
RE:Top ten reasons to be a proud Hindu
by on Dec 25, 2007 12:06 AM Permalink
Do a google search on "Why I quit going to Church" by Rupert Hughes and you will vomit when you pick up the red lined unholy book to read. I can assure you you will be rid of the disease called christian cult. Please not Rupert is of your favorite color- white. You will also read there about the multiple gods of the cult where pedophilia was born and widely practised by those behind the pulpit.
Sonia had called Vajpayee a 'liar' too.According to her,the only righteous people in India are the pseudo-Gandhis.Her Rajiv is a Harischantra,her M-in-Law is a goddess.
Why great leaders like Patel and Ambedkar adorn the cobwebbed corners of INC office while enlarged pictures of Nehru-psedoGandhis take the front stage?
Balaord, I tend to be secularist and do not jump into religious debates. But list that you refer to (Greatest inventors)has 1 moslim and about 25 xtians. I do not see xtians jumping to prove a point. See, this is the difference, we all practically agree the leadership of Europe in modern science. I am a hindu and I do not feel defensive when I read their books, theories and ideas. That is called INCLUSIVENESS. The more we mingle and exchange ideas, the more we progress. Even Islam was progressive in its nascent stage. Arabia gave the world a lot of ideas, artistic and scientific.
However, later it closed its windows, stopped new ideas and EVEN persecuted new thoughts. When you do that even great civilizations die. China closed its door and from a world leader in science and technology it becam a nation tamed by Europians - imagine a country that invented gun powder and rockets - enslaved by people who just improved upon their own concept. The reason is that in China the ideas flowed outwards but inward flow was stopped.
Same thing happened in India. After numerous aggressions our ruling and religious class closed the civilization and one of the most modern nations of that time slipped into slavery.
The point is not whether muslims had Al Jazari. The point is even when they had him, they are in dark ages of engineering and science. This is because Islam's preachers do not want new ideas. They think they know the ultimate truth. There is no scope of reform in Islam.
RE:The challenges of Islam - @ balaord
by on Dec 25, 2007 12:13 AM Permalink
Sorry get your facts right. Mohd was the world's first terrorists and Islam was never open . It always blvd in the sword. wishes cant be the truth. Foolish Hindus say a true Muslim can never be a terrorist. On the contrary unless one is a terrorist he can't be true muslim. Since they all clamour for the 72 houris and pearl like boys forin their after-life
RE:The challenges of Islam - @ balaord
by on Dec 25, 2007 12:05 AM Permalink
Fantastic post. I commend you on your thinking and I think you just voiced the minds of the Hindu intelligensia. I don't hate Muslims who are good. It is the terrorists I hate, irrespective of the religion.
RE:''the day hindus unite, hindu muslim problem will be solved in a day ''- thus spoke Sarat Chandra
by Salvador Dali on Dec 24, 2007 11:35 PM Permalink
True. The appeasedand pampered Muslims will then know , Jhukti hai Duniya Jhukane wala chahiye.
Some will fallin line and rest will shown the door to migrate to Saudi Arabia.
RE:''the day hindus unite, hindu muslim problem will be solved in a day ''- thus spoke Sarat Chandra
by on Dec 24, 2007 11:47 PM Permalink
Idiot toilet cleaner and albino's servicing point. How can you blv whatever the bishop says when he passing "Holy water" unto you?
RE:''the day hindus unite, hindu muslim problem will be solved in a day ''- thus spoke Sarat Chandra
by Vasanth Srinivas on Dec 24, 2007 11:45 PM Permalink
India is not worried about "Brahminism". The only issue remaining is the "secularism" that supports and appeases Muslims/Terrorists. Dont try to break this chain by unnecessarily bringing this worthless issue.
RE:RE:''the day hindus unite, hindu muslim problem will be solved in a day ''- thus spoke Sarat Chandra
by Tamil Arasan on Dec 24, 2007 11:45 PM Permalink
"San" how long you will continue to play the same old Brahmin tape to divide Hindus, We Hindus know your cunningness. My self from a BC caste from Kanyakumari "day and night dream about Hindu Rashtra" where all the religions will be treated equally without any minority appeasement politics. But it's in the hands of minority community to make this possible much earlier because as long as you show hatred towards Hinduism it will unite Hindus much faster, so pls continue your wicked work....
RE:RE:''the day hindus unite, hindu muslim problem will be solved in a day ''- thus spoke Sarat Chandra
by on Dec 24, 2007 11:50 PM Permalink
No dalit christian will ever become a Pope either, they will continue to be abused by the Bishops, Cardinals and Popes unless if you are of the protestant type. Please don't get hurt if I have included your favorite Archbishop.
RE:''the day hindus unite, hindu muslim problem will be solved in a day ''- thus spoke Sarat Chandra
by Tamil Arasan on Dec 24, 2007 11:44 PM Permalink
"San" how long you will continue to play the same old Brahmin tape to divide Hindus, We Hindus know your cunningness. My self from a BC caste from Kanyakumari %u201Cday and night dream about Hindu Rashtra%u201D where all the religions will be treated equally without any minority appeasement politics. But it's in the hands of minority community to make this possible much earlier because as long as you show hatred towards Hinduism it will unite Hindus much faster, so pls continue your wicked work....
Evolution of Man: The earth is a planet in the solar system. The earth came into being about 4500 million years ago. At first, it was in the gaseous state. Gradually, over a period, it solidified and land formed. Water bodies developed on land. Algae-like plants developed in water. At about this time, unicellular micro-organisms were formed. Animals on earth evolved in stages from these unicellular micro-organisms. The process of development of the living world %u2013 from unicellular living beings to man %u2013 is known as evolution. This evolution has taken place over millions of years.
Today's man evolved in stages from ape %u2013 a monkey closely resembling man. The two main stages in this evolution are Ho-mo Ere-ctus and 'Ho-mo Sap-iens'. The word Ho-mo indicates man and Ere-ctus indicates 'with upright spine'. Ho-mo sap-iens means the wise man. At this stage, he began to make fire and devise stone implements.
PP-14, History of Ancient India, Standard Six, published by Maharashtra State Bureau of Text Book Production and Curriculum Research, Pune (Education Department Sanction No. Pra-Shi-Sa/2007-08/manjuri 505 (9) Date: 8.1.2007
The above portion contradicts the beliefs of Christians, Muslims and Jews!!!!!!!!!
