Gujarati community taught a lesson for all the secularist. All other party simply facing the elections by appeasing minority & caste groups. By repeatedly talking about Godhra, all his opponents made him very strong. They don't have guts to face the elections by performance. Congress even tried to use the cheap tactics of giving color TV (wasting tax payer's money). Modi won the election single handedly against Congress, Media & all other psudo secularist. He managed to win not by poll-rigging or bogus voting. It was the pure democratic process in which people voted for him. He won because of his good governance. All other politicians should learn the lesson from him. What happened in 1992 was unfortunate. When the Akshardam temple was attacked there was no violence, because everyone knows that it was the handi-work of external force. But Godhra incident was not by external people, the culprits were among us. It was natural reaction from a suppressed community.
How come Congress talk about secularism when they killed more than 3000 innocent sikhs. Rajiv Gandhi himself said "when a big tree falls down, some grasses will die". What was he trying to say? Was he supporting the violence?
Congress and so called secularist developed a huge inferiority among the Hindus. Tolerance is the main enemy for the past 1000 years. The more you kneel, the more you suffer. This is the high-time to wake up.
RE:Well said Raman
by Johny Dayal on Dec 25, 2007 01:14 AM Permalink
I agree & want to congratulate Mr. Raman for writing the facts as they are without fear. Nowadays it is fashionable to be secular & abuse Hindus & foreign money in plenty is available for that purpose. I am yet to hear a single word from that Italian lady Sonia on this election. Is the writer same Raman who writes about security issues facing our country?
RE:Well said Raman
by sri vellur on Dec 25, 2007 01:31 AM Permalink
same turkey..this is the first time he is writing this way..usually he blames all terrorism on babri masjid..used to be the RAW and they called him "burma bomb" or something for his expertise ..so he claims in his articles..but dont think he accomplished much while in service...else we wouldnt be having all these bomb blasts all over india..
RE:Well said Raman
by Jahnavi on Dec 25, 2007 01:34 AM Permalink
Dont be mean to a retired officer. If one crime is prevented, will crime stop for ever?
RE:Well said Raman
by sri vellur on Dec 25, 2007 01:49 AM Permalink
totally agree with you..just that i have read all his articles and he has never been this unbiased before- he wanted india to enlist in the us war in iraq way back after 9/11..and blames every islamic terrorism in india back to babri masjid..so not v clever or intelligent..
RE:Well said Raman
by Mukesh on Dec 25, 2007 01:44 AM Permalink
I am a person who very much respect the feelings of every other relegion and believe in living with them peacefully. I completely agree with what Mr. Raman has said. Congress is worst for secularity. They are the worst hypocrites. It is due to their hypocrecy that India is facing all the terrorism problems today. They never replied to China and Pakistan firmly, thats why both thse countries were fearlessly creating all the problems for India. Would there have been a leader like Modi, these countries would have shut-up long ago.
The people of Gujarat felt insulted by Sonia Gandhi's insensitive comments. Even otherwise, the results would not have been drastically different because of the development work which many Gujarati people acknowledge as significant - a view shared by many impartial Muslims of Gujarat.
Also the fact of Godhra - had there been no train coach burning, there would have been no mob retaliation. Congressmen and people like Laloo wanted to ignore the trigger while blaming Modi for the mob response. They conveniently forgot to acknowledge Modi ordered troops within a day to bring order.
Whenever Modi spoke against Terrorism (quoting Afzal Guru, Sohrabuddin as examples), Congressmen played it as anti-minority view of BJP / Modi. They probably did not realize the grave injustice they do to patriotic Muslims by colouring all of them with the same brush when they said Modi is speaking against Minorities. In fact, Modi tried to correct the Congressmen. But they were not listening to him carefully.
Congressmen goofed up in reading the public mood, and they insulted them more by their dumb speeches. Further, the public rejected opportunistic politics of people like Keshubhai Patel.
As long as Muslims do not realize the harm the so called secular parties do to their interests, and Hindus continue to feel the insults, we will see such results.
This is what called impartial truth. Sheela Bhatt type people will not understand it. Impotent Intellecttuls will will kill down the moral of a Nation and Hindus. Sat Sat Pranam Mr. Raman.
RE:Firsrt time Mr. Raman -- some one is writing truth
by Johny Dayal on Dec 25, 2007 01:13 AM Permalink
I agree & want to congratulate Mr. Raman for writing the facts as they are without fear. Nowadays it is fashionable to be secular & abuse Hindus & foreign money in plenty is available for that purpose. I am yet to hear a single word from that Italian lady Sonia on this election. Is the writer same Raman who writes about security issues facing our country?
To all the Muslimes/xtians braying about their "contributions" to the world, let me list the contributions of Hindus without which people all over the world would still have lived in caves!
1.First and foremost, the decimal number system, which the ARab traders carried with them to the west. 2.So also Algebra appropriated wrongly to Arbas but now correctly acknowledged to be invented by HIndus. 3.The basis for BNF notation, the modern computer language grammar - the sanskrit grammar/language. Refer to any compiler book, the inventor Panini is referred to. 4.All time great Vedas/Upanishads/Bhgavad Gita/epics - Ramayana and Mahabharata. 5.Innumerable literary works that stand the test of time. 6.Greatest existential philosophies by Shankara, Madhwa and Ramanuja. 7. Yoga and Kamasutra ;-)
The list can go on. But let the Islamists/xtians know that it was their brutal aggression that destroyed any progress in the intellectual endeavor of ancient India resulting in current day poverty and backwardness.
RE:Hindus contribution to the world.
by Johny Dayal on Dec 25, 2007 12:53 AM Permalink
Holding fierce pride in their identity, Sikhs have for decades been seen as off-limits by the missionary machine but not anymore. In a alarming trend, evangelism has begun to tread on the Sikh faith as well. Every aspect of Punjabi society is being overwhelmed with this new wave of assertive anti-national Christianity. Besides programs in Hindi, Punjabi TV channels have been deluged by Christian programs even though the Christian population of Punjab is less than 1%. Taking aim at Sikh youth, animated films and childrens books on Christianity are freely distributed by missionaries. Because of the strong adherence to tradition by Sikhs, missionaries have attempted to repackage Christianity. Jesus is called Satguru, church is referred to as Satsang and choir singing is called Kirtan. Choir boys in Punjabi churches wear turbans to attempt to minimize the variation between Sikhism and Christianity. However, despite these attempts to disguise Christianity as a version of Sikhism, missionaries still cannot hide their intent: to destroy the Sikh faith & Indian culture. The lead is taken by Malayali christians with money from US, Uk & before long priests will start their pastime of molesting kids.
RE:Hindus contribution to the world.
by Demo-crazy on Dec 25, 2007 01:09 AM Permalink
Thanks for the message. Our Sikh brothers know what to do to these elements. If not remind them of what happens to dera sachha soudha head...
RE:Hindus contribution to the world.
by sanjay choudhry on Dec 25, 2007 01:51 AM Permalink
When are you going to stop killing Shias, Ahmedias and Bahais?
RE:Hindus, as you hold your heads high, take responsibility for your social evils
by srini srini on Dec 25, 2007 12:57 AM Permalink
1. More than 300 million Gods including the monkey God, rat god, elephant god, and the snake god. one billion of us supported by 300 million gods..1 billion of you supported by only 1 son of god and human made document in the vatican called bibb
2. Caste crimes Crimes against humanity-Converts by beheading, deciept, trickery lies..Go on crusades killing people
3. Demand dowry, if not satisfied burn wife. Call loans from poor people if not convert them
4. Female infanticide -Call women witches and burn them
6. Widow abuse -Fathers and peodiopholes abuses
7. No tradition of charity except for brahmins, the history of charities for all in India starts and ends with christian missionaries. And I hate christians but have to admit this. Our Muslims' own Zakaath system does not function much in India.
-Wear a mask of charity and slowly convert people by deciept, trickery, lies force, allurement..
8. Non-inclusive society. It used to be upper castes versus the lower castes. The British left an example for a modern society which was incorporated in theory. Now extremist Hindus openly preach apartheid and/or worse against Muslims.
RE:RE:Hindus, as you hold your heads high, take responsibility for your social evils
by srini srini on Dec 25, 2007 12:58 AM Permalink
9. No connection to reality. Hindus make no difference between fiction/drama/myth and reality. RSS preaches a mixture of half lies, misinformation and outright lies as part of its brainwashing. -Copy all ideas including creation theories from bagawatham and include them in genisis..
10. Using the fancy term Hindu nationalism while using Nazi principles, world zionism style apparatus and apartheid hatred. -using secularism and human rights to convert people..
RE:Hindus, as you hold your heads high, take responsibility for your social evils
by Royal on Dec 25, 2007 12:46 AM Permalink
Since, Hindus have taken pride within themselves and exuding them as well, followers of other religions have started attacking them verbally. We as Hindus, who have been tolerant for centuries are being considered as cowards. We refuse to bow anymore any tantrums thrown at us will be replied befittingly.
RE:Hindus, as you hold your heads high, take responsibility for your social evils
by osman khan on Dec 25, 2007 12:47 AM Permalink
moorakh, jo saval rah diya,uska jawab do. you can abuse hindus and hinduism later on. TRAITORS LIKE YOU CAN ONLY AWAIT ANNIHILATION.
RE:Hindus, as you hold your heads high, take responsibility for your social evils
by osman khan on Dec 25, 2007 12:41 AM Permalink
The pattern of Jihad and the Religion of Peace!!!The pattern is that of a 'Jihad' (holy war) against the kafirs (non-muslims) in which the 'ghazis' (religious warriors and conquerors) of Islam undertake 'ghazzuas' or raids in order to:1. Invade the lands of the non-muslims,2. Massacre as many non-muslims men, women and children as they like after winning a victory,3. Capture the surviving women, rape them, then keep them as concubines or sell them in the slave markets and retain some in their harems as slave-girls,4. Plunder every place and person for war booty, a fifth of which (including the slaves) went to the caliph or some other religious head,5. Demolish the places of worship of the non-muslims and build mosques in their places; and6. Defile and desecrate the deities and other symbols of the non-muslims' religions by throwing them into public squares or making into steps leading to the prayer area of the believers. Muslim apologists when confronted with the evil acts of Islam come up with some sugar-coated verses in Quran to prove that it is a peaceful religion. Islam in never peaceful, it is brutal!!! 7. Talk about peace as long as the enemy is strong and attack when he is weak. 8. Allah accepts all terror and murder against non-muslims happily. So dont hesitate to kill the idolaters, Jews, Christians, and others as long as they do not accept Islam.
RE:Hindus, as you hold your heads high, take responsibility for your social evils
by loler Chicken on Dec 25, 2007 12:41 AM Permalink
loser... u accepted everything we rejected as hindus in course of time :) ... hindus believe in moving tradition with time... not stick to age old ideas written in old books when situation was different...
RE:RE:Hindus, as you hold your heads high, take responsibility for your social evils
by loler Chicken on Dec 25, 2007 12:42 AM Permalink
aah.... one more thing... can muslims openly declare that they wont accept the clause in quran which say all non believers will be killed?
RE:Hindus, as you hold your heads high, take responsibility for your social evils
by osman khan on Dec 25, 2007 12:43 AM Permalink
Date: December 626 A.D. Place: The well of Muraysi near Red Sea Victims: The Tribe of Banu-L-Mustaliq
Mohammed attacked the Banu-L-Mustaliq because of their wealth and slaughtered many members of the Banu-N-Mustaliq Tribe and looted away a booty of 2000 Camels, 5000 Sheep and 500 Women!
500 women were captured screaming and crying after they had watched their husbands and sons being slaughtered.
The most beautiful captive was Juwayriyya, daughter of the chief of the Banu-L-Mustaliq. Mohammed snatched her to satisfy his own animal lust. The night after the battle itself, Mohammed and his army raped each and every one of them. One of the men Abu Said Khudri of Mohammed's army reported :
"We were lusting after women. We asked the Prophet about this. Mohammed told us: You are not under any obligation to restrain yourselves from raping captured women."
Mohammed, the supreme religious figurehead of Islam sanctions RAPE, pure and simple. To call such SUPREME CRIMINAL a Prophet is an offence against humanity.
Muslim swine often argue that Juawarriya married Mohammed out of love. This is a flat lie. After murdering her husband and father Muslim criminals captured her and played lots to share the captured women for raping them. She fell in lots to another Muslim pigg. Mohammed bastardd saw her beauty and purchased her. In other words it was a rape. She had no other option.
MOHAMMED WAS THE SUPREME TERRORIST AND THE PROPHET OF TERRORIST
RE:RE:Hindus, as you hold your heads high, take responsibility for your social evils
by osman khan on Dec 25, 2007 12:44 AM Permalink
MOHAMMED WAS THE SUPREME TERRORIST AND THE PROPHET OF TERRORIST
Fact is fact.., even the holiest plac of musalmaans was a temple
Kaaba was a temple of vedic/pagan people of ancient Arab. The temple was having 360 idols of god/goddess signifying each day of the year. It also had a black "Shivaling" and an octagonal structure containing the foot-print "charan" of Brahma. When mohammad captured Mecca, he destroyed all 360 idols. But even he could not destroy the 'shivling' and the octagonal structure containing the foot-print of Brahma. At that time, the main god of Pagan's was the moon god and its name was 'Al-ilah'. Being the main god of that time, Muhammed could not force people not to worship the moon god. At the same time he wanted himself to be worshipped like a god so he declared himself a prophet and the messengar of god.
It is really strange to know that the holiest place of Muslims 'Kaaba' which if a muslim visit once in his life time, is supposed to go to Jannat, even that was a temple and was forcefully captured by Mohammad and his army.
RE:Hindus, as you hold your heads high, take responsibility for your social evils
by on Dec 25, 2007 12:51 AM Permalink
mr. jollydas,
1. One of these days some islamic terrorist will take your family female members and 'ram' them and then you will stop talking about the million gods. you will pray at least one existed.
2. All the points listed by you are 'social' problems and not religious problems. Mankind continously works through and solves them. But the kind of solution in Islam for these problems is nausiating. If there is a problem just ban it. Burkha, single religion, whip women, against money etc etc
3. Again to Raman's point, the big thing in Hinduism is tolerance but for gfs dont take our tolerance and secularism and tell us we are stupid and becuase we are secular we should all convert to something else, as it does not matter to us. NO over religion matters to us, we dont want you all to convert to that if your tiny brains can't see the truth but we dont hate you for that, we want you to live and realize urself one day.
5. Finally again stop talking social issues like dowry & charity. I dont even find that annoying..its funny you moron. What right your poor brain has to make comments like this when you kill women, when handful of arabs own trillions of dollars of oil and spend it on white bodies. Stop this ridiculous arguments
RE:Hindus, as you hold your heads high, take responsibility for your social evils
by on Dec 25, 2007 12:37 AM Permalink
You must read the Biblical lies which Rupert Hughes sobeautifully enumerates in the "Why I quit going to Church" If Jesus is of Immaculate conception from (NON)virgin Mary how come he is described as the seed of (the lecherous) David a guy more lecherous than Abraham, Moses or Lot? Was not David the grandfather of the lame duck guy Joseph?
Did not your Jehovah lose more battles to satan than he won . Worship Satan it would be better since he must be neccessarily GOod since your cult is evil personified.
RE:Hindus, as you hold your heads high, take responsibility for your social evils
by Making Sense on Dec 25, 2007 12:49 AM Permalink
Answers: 1. More than 300 mil gods. That shows Hindus are secular and respect "n" number of gods. 2. Caste crimes. Caste system exists today too. Before it was about where you are born today the caste system is about how rich you are. I bet you you wont be allowed to go into a millionairs party. 3. This happens in all the societies. May be it is not given a name "dowry". 4. Same as 3. 5. Same as 3. 6. Same as 3. 7. Open your eyes and see how many charities Hindus are opening up. And Hindu charities dont more secular than any other charities out there. Google it. Christian charities are only for christians. Muslim charities is only for madarsas that grow terrorists. 8. Again caste system exists even today even in the west. Before it was Brahimin, vysya etc., now it is about how rich you are. 9. And what Jesus was born to a Virgin. Allah told mohammed to marry Aisha when she was 6 and abuse her. Very good. 10. The more you bash Hindus of being zionists the more you will wake the Hindus up. Be careful. Its only because of Hindus it is a secular India.
I fully agree with the article. Modiji represents the aspirations of Hindu nationalists. We are proud of him. Its heartening to see many Indians from across the states are supporting him. The maturity in comments reflect growing awareness of real history than the leftist writings taught in schools. Internet may be a boon to all Hindus. DNA is advancing so much that one day we will know the truth about Aryan/Dravidian theory, Aryan migration and all fake manipulations. Its time nationalists (if any left) in Congress should revolt against that Italalian maid with borrowed surname. Ji Hind
You the people of Gujrat have chosen Narinder Modi, the Common Man to become Chief Minister again. You have changed psych of many people around the world for people to stop, take notice and think.
And you have selected development again false propaganda for the first time in the history of Indian Democracy.
People of Gujrat you have made a lot of people happy around the world with your prosperity and making a right decision. By taking right decision, you do good to yourself and get world admiration.
Thank you very much. I hope people of India choose the right people for the right job in future as well.
BTW, the juice of this article is in one line "For them, secularism is a virtue which a Hindu should practise towards others, but not others towards him."
