Modi and Gujarat ...are different They are trying to stop the general terroristic games.....
HEAVEN.....ISLAM...JIHADISM. This motto seems to be the ONLY way of some good humans !!!....and they dont want to be disturbed by all Indians and Politicians of India.
They take countries on contract basis ....to get their jihad. Haj through Indian money.....Jihad through Indian blood !!!
All the best MODIJI. YOU ARE THE COUNTERPART OF FATHER OF TERRORISM....TAKE CARE ! YOU SEEM TO BE THE TRENDSETTER.
Ancient spiritual belief further had it that a person who suffered misfortune or overly suffered from the human instinctual passions of fear and aggression was 'possessed' by bad or evil spirits. Relief was sought by offering sacrifice or avowing servitude to the mythical good spirits or Gods in return for favours, forgiveness, redemption and salvation, if not now then in an imaginary life-after-death.
Each tribe has, over millennia, formalized its own particular religion based on these ancient words, traditions, fears, superstitions and eccentric fairy tales.
Shamans, priests and God-men soon laid claim to be the earthly representatives of these mythical 'other- worldly spirits and Gods and, as such, their words and deeds were taken to be sacred and inviolate.
Thus the shamans, priests and God-men came to wield enormous power and influence, for to dare to question them was to provoke the evil spirits, incur the wrath of the Gods and ultimately deny oneself the chance of salvation in an imagined future life-after-death.
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by Contractor on Jan 13, 2008 03:48 PM Permalink
1>Being a highly qualified Person, why did you get involved with a riotous and communalist organisation like the VHP? 2>What vested interest drives you to issue vituperative, venom-spewing and rabid statements against Muslims? 3>What are your views regarding the Modi-sponsored genocide of Muslims in Gujarat in response to the Godhra carnage?
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by on Feb 21, 2008 06:57 PM Permalink
1, VHP is another orgn like many other belonging to other religions. Modi was hated by RSS and VHP in this election. So they are not together. If ever they came together it was on ideas and not permanent. Exactly like Congress and NCP, Congress and DMK. 2. No sensible person should use foul and hurting langauge against others-community, religion or beliefs. Lot of muck flows around, some hurting muslims and some hindus etc. Do not take it to heart for ever. 3. The riots was not genocide. You are calling so when you hear and see pictures of Muslims being hurt. Did you ever recall what would have happened to 58 pilgrims burnt inside train coach alive by muslims around. Yes Modi must have controlled as he was obliged as Government. He slipped badly indeed. Did you see whole Maharashtra Govt with their own central govt waiting for 10 days to send a notic to Raj Thakerey.
Indeed lot of innocent people muslims and hindus both suffered in gujarat riots. What do we do now except give healing touch.
Lot of muslims are misled by politicians to setlle scores with Modi by calling him as having led the genocide
My dear, no one hates each other in multi racial society. It is polticians who create hatred for their own means. do not use langauge which shows bias
RE:Spiritual beliefs
by GRJ on Feb 08, 2008 08:40 AM Permalink
Contractor,
Dont u know .....TERRORISM is not enjoyable. You want to dispense terrorism and ask such cool queries ??? How can we not react when the backs are burning???.....CAN U ???
HEAVEN.....ISLAM...JIHADISM. That seems to be the ONLY way of some good humans !!!....and they dont want to be disturbed by all Indians and Politicians of India.
They take countries on contract basis ....to get their jihad. Haj through Indian money.....Jihad through Indian blood !!!
Modiji is the father of anti terrorism ! He is a trendsetter. Because TERRORISM HURTS.....badly..... so badly !!!
Of course I ask myself why superstition is so widespread and why 99.99% of people believe in some form of God. Because of uncertainty and death, people cannot cope with the absoluteness of non-existence. So they invented an after-life and gods because it is useful. I have no doubt thatthis is the only life. I have and I'd better make the best out of it. %u2013 Lord Meghand Desai
1>Being a highly qualified Person, why did you get involved with a riotous and communalist organisation like the VHP? & nbsp; 2>What vested interest drives you to issue vituperative, venom-spewing and rabid statements against Muslims? &nb sp; &n bsp; 3>What are your views regarding the Modi-sponsored genocide of Muslims in Gujarat in response to the Godhra carnage?
" in the Hindu Diaspora in the West, more young people admire Modi than grown-ups. Many of his young admirers in the US were born and brought up there and had the benefit of the best of secular education. In spite of this, there is a sense of pride in them that the Hindu community has at long last produced a leader of the calibre of Modi" This is the greatest and funniest statement of the year. We all know the hindu youth especially those who were born in usa do not even like to be called indian. They ape the american youth in each and every aspect even in religion.They are even ashamed to be called indian and would rather be called spanish than indian. This B.raman is a big liar who has never even visited usa.
RE:what lies !
by JGN on Jan 12, 2008 05:25 PM Permalink
Yes, Mr. Raman is not only a liar but also very jealous also. It seems that he does not like the jihadis going to the Paradise. Pl search for X-Rated Paradise of Islam and see how tempting the Paradise is! Then you will also become a jihadi !!!!
RE:what lies !
by Ismail Sayyed on Jan 12, 2008 06:31 PM Permalink
JGN is not a true hindu. He is a foreign agent.No indian can hate another indian like him so he is not even indian
RE:what lies !
by JGN on Jan 12, 2008 07:55 PM Permalink
Where is the hate? Pl search the web and understand for yourself how tempting the Paradise is! Then you will also not hesitate to below yourself up!!!!!!!!!!1
Hats off to Rediff and Mr. Raman for such a truthful and eye opening article. For these self-styled secularists Muslim community is just a vote bank and this community fails to understand the dirty politics of the Congressmen. They ruled India for 50 years and see the condition of their vote bank. They have done nothing for the upliftment of the so called minorities. Giving them Haj subsidy and giving them reservation on their minority status is not going to solve the problem for muslims. They should initiate and understand the dirty game which the congress has played with them since half a century and will continue to play if they are still asleep.
RE:WONDERFUL ATRTCLE
by ajman on Jan 10, 2008 08:55 PM Permalink
Udaipur range Inspector-General of Police Rajiv Dasod said the British woman 'is a freelance journalist working for a PR agency and this is her eighth visit to Udaipur. A police team in Pushkar, meanwhile, arrested Satynarayan, brother-in-law of the priest of Pap-Mochani temple, for allegedly molesting a 28-year-old American woman tourist.
Pushkar police station Circle Officer Sangram Singh said the woman from Oregan who is on pilgrimage in the lake town, alleged that the 'priest' molested her while she was offering prayers at the temple on Tuesday, he said.
He said Satynarayan had confessed to the crime and will be put on an identification parade before a magistrate and the victim on Thursday
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by lalitha ravichandran on Jan 12, 2008 12:28 PM Permalink
ajman what you are trying to say fro your citation. This kind of thing is there every religion, saudi (muthafa) after 5 time prayer raping the minor housemaid from Philiphines and Indonasia is very common. So dont thing that Hindu only raping or molesting your next dore make you salam and oppertunity comes molest you also. Pls keep your muoth shut and live in the world till Allah permits you
RE:WONDERFUL ATRTCLE
by JGN on Jan 12, 2008 05:28 PM Permalink
Ms. lalitha, It seems that you do not like the jihadis going to the Paradise. Pl search for X-Rated Paradise of Islam and see how tempting the Paradise is! Then you will also become a jihadi !!!! Unfortunately there are no special previleges for woman in the Islamic Paradise. Oh, I forgot. Allah is most merciful. He has granted them the rare opportunity of watching their husbands deflo-ring 72 virigns!!!!!!!
RE:WONDERFUL ATRTCLE
by rashmi sahu on Jan 11, 2008 03:38 PM Permalink
Many centuries before prophet Muhammad and the advent of Islam, Arabia or Arabistan was an extremely rich and glorious center of Vedic civilization. In this article, I will prove to you point by point that pre-Islamic Arabia was in fact a flourishing civilization which revered Vedic culture. In fact the Black Stone at the Kaaba is the Lingam of Lord Shiva. Millions of Muslims kiss this sacred emblem of Lord Shiva every day.
In learning about this most ancient heritage, let's begin with the word Arabistan itself. Arabistan is derived from the original Sanskrit term Arvasthan which means The Land of Horses. Since time immemorial proponents of the Vedic culture used to breed exceptional horses in this region. Thus eventually the land itself began to be called Arva (Horses) -Sthan (place). The people who lived in this land were called Semitic.
Semitic comes from the Sanskrit word Smritic. Arabs followed the ancient Vedic Smritis such as Manu-Smriti as their revered religious guides and thus they were identified as Smritic which has been corrupted into Semitic. At that time the Uttarapath (Northern Highway) was the international highway to the North of India. It was via Uttarapath that Arabia and other Middle Eastern countries drew their spiritual, educational and material sustenance from India. Besides, this Sea-links were formed with India at least 800 years before the advent of Islam. Basra was the ancient gateway to India because it was at this port that the Arab lands
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by rashmi sahu on Jan 11, 2008 03:40 PM Permalink
At that time the spoken language was Sanskrit, which later dwindled into the local variation that we now call Arabic. The proof of this is that thousands of words that were derived from Sanskrit still survive in Arabic today. Here is a sampling of some: Sanskrit, Arabic, English: Sagwan, Saj, Teakwood/ Vish, Besh, Poison/Anusari, Ansari, Follower/ Shishya, Sheikh, Disciple/ Mrityu, Mout, Mortal/ Pra-Ga-ambar, Paigambar, One from heaven/ Maleen, Malaun, Dirty, soiled,MALevolent/ Aapati, Aafat, Unfortunate, Karpas, Kaifas, Cotton/ Karpur, Kafur, Camphor/ Pramukh, Barmak, Prominent Chief/Naranga, Aranja, Orange. Even various kinds of swords were referred to as Handuwani, Hindi, Saif-Ul-Hind, Muhannid and Hinduani. The Sanskrit Astronomical treatise Brahma-Sphuta-Siddhanta in Arabic translation is known as Sind-Hind, while another treatise Khanda-Khadyaka was called Arkand. Mathematics itself was called Hindisa . The Arabs derived technical guidance in every branch of study such as astronomy, mathematics and physics from India. A noted scholar of history, W.H. Siddiqui notes: "The Arab civilization grew up intensively as well as extensively on the riches of Indian trade and commerce. Nomadic Arab tribes became partially settled communities and some of them lived within walled towns practised agriculture and commerce, wrote on wood and stone, feared the gods and honored the kings." Some people wrongly believe that Arabs used the word Hindu as a term of contemptuous abuse. No
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by rashmi sahu on Jan 11, 2008 03:41 PM Permalink
Some people wrongly believe that Arabs used the word Hindu as a term of contemptuous abuse. Nothing could be further from the truth. The people of pre-Islamic Arabia held Hinduism in great esteem as evidenced from the fact that they would endearingly call their most attractive and favourite daughters as Hinda and Saifi Hindi. The fact that Arabs regarded India as their spiritual and cultural motherland long before the damaging influence of Islam is corroborated by the following poem which mentions each one of the four Vedas by name: (Note The English translation) "Aya muwarekal araj yushaiya noha minar HIND-e Wa aradakallaha manyonaifail jikaratun" "Oh the divine land of HIND (India) (how) very blessed art thou! Because thou art the chosen of God blessed with knowledge" "Wahalatijali Yatun ainana sahabi akha-atun jikra Wahajayhi yonajjalur -rasu minal HINDATUN " "That celestial knowledge which like four lighthouses shone in such brilliance - through the (utterances of) Indian sages in fourfold abundance." "Yakuloonallaha ya ahal araf alameen kullahum Fattabe-u jikaratul VEDA bukkun malam yonajjaylatun" "God enjoins on all humans, follow with hands down The path the Vedas with his divine precept lay down." "Wahowa alamus SAMA wal YAJUR minallahay Tanajeelan Fa-e-noma ya akhigo mutiabay-an Yobassheriyona jatun" "Bursting with (Divine) knowledge are SAM & YAJUR bestowed on creation, Hence brothers respect and follow the Vedas, guides to salvation" "Wa-isa nain huma
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by rashmi sahu on Jan 11, 2008 03:41 PM Permalink
"Itrasshaphai Santul Bikramatul phehalameen Karimun Bihillahaya Samiminela Motakabbenaran Bihillaha Yubee qaid min howa Yaphakharu phajgal asari nahans Osirim Bayjayholeen Yaha sabdunya Kanateph natephi bijihalin Atadari Bilala masaurateen phakef Tasabahu. Kaunni eja majakaralhada walhada Achimiman, burukan, Kad, Toluho watastaru Bihillaha yakajibainana baleykulle amarena Phaheya jaunabil amaray Bikramatoon" - (Sair-ul-Okul, Page 315) "Fortunate are those who were born during King Vikram's reign, he was a noble generous, dutiful ruler devoted to the welfare of his subjects. But at that time, We Arabs oblivious of divinity were lost in sensual pleasures. Plotting & torture were rampant. The darkness of ignorance had enveloped our country.
Like the lamb struggling for its life in the cruel jaws of a wolf, we Arabs were gripped by ignorance. The whole country was enveloped in a darkness as intense as on a New moon night. But the present dawn & pleasant sunshine of education is the result of the favor of that noble king Vikram whose benevolence did not lose sight of us foreigners as we were. He spread his sacred culture amongst us and sent scholars from his own land whose brilliance shone like that of the sun in our country. These scholars & preceptors through whose benevolence we were once again made aware of the presence of god, introduced to his secret knowledge & put on the road to truth, had come to our country to initiate us in that culture & impart education." Thus
It is NECESSARY that we come out and vote on the day of elections, instead of finding excuses, and then cribbing that Modi & Co. is Fascist or Not.. I would like to add one more thing: It is not enough it you vote against the communal BJP/RSS(both parties vying with each other in dividing the country along religious lines in one way or the other every day).. It is ALSO ESSENTIAL TO EDUCATE AND INFORM EVERY ONE AROUND YOU (like your relatives, friends and the ill-informed people from the lower strata of society), and exhort them to come out and vote... THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO THROW OUT BJP/RSS, WHO KEEP DIVIDING INDIANS INTO HINDUS AND MUSLIM/CHRISTIANS.
RE:No Excuse Vote Them Out!!
by Anuj Sharma on Jan 10, 2008 04:39 PM Permalink
AND BRING IN MUSLIM LEAGUE, MIM , MQM AND FINALLY THE TALIBANS...???? RITE?????
RE:No Excuse Vote Them Out!!
by rashmi sahu on Jan 11, 2008 03:43 PM Permalink
Thus we can see that Vedic religion and culture were present in Pre-Islamic Arabia as early as 1850 B.C., and definitely present at the time of Mohammed's birth. In his book Origines, Volumes 3 & 4", Sir W. Drummond adds "Tsabaism was the universal language of mankind when Abraham received his call, their doctrines were probably extended all over the civilized nations of Earth." Tsabaism is merely the corruption of the word Shaivism which is Vedic religion. On page 439 of this book, Sir Drummond mentions some of gods of pre-Islamic Arabs, all of which were included in the 360 idols that were consecrated in the Kaba shrine before it was raided and destroyed by Muhammad and his followers. Here are some of the Vedic deities and their original Sanskrit names: Arabic SanskritEnglish Al-Dsaizan,Shani,Saturn/Al-Ozi or Ozza,Oorja,Divine energy/Al-Sharak,Shukra,Venus/Auds,Uddhav-Bag,Bhagwan,God/Bajar,Vajra,Indra's thunderbolt/Kabar,Kuber, God of wealth/Dar,Indra,King of gods/Dua Shara,Deveshwar, Lord of the gods,Habal,Bahubali,Lord of strength,Madan,Madan,God of love/Manaph, Manu,First Man/Manat, Somnath, Lord Shiv/Obodes,Bhoodev, Earth/Razeah,Rajesh,King of kings/Saad,Siddhi,God of Luck/Sair,Shree,Goddess of wealth/Sakiah,Shakrah,Indra/ Sawara,Shiva-Eshwar, God Shiva/Yauk, Yaksha, Divine being/Wad,Budh,Mercury/
RE:No Excuse Vote Them Out!!
by Sanjeev Asthana on Jan 08, 2008 08:27 PM Permalink
BJP is the only party which thinks abt country and congress is well know for its selfish politics of getting power only. Congress always stands in election on castism. they always try to show a community that only u hav the right to get everything. But they are giving full support to Afzal Guru and other groups.
RE:No Excuse Vote Them Out!!
by Udit Mathur on Jan 08, 2008 11:11 AM Permalink
Probably Mr. Contractor you are given the contract by the congress and communists to speak against the BJP / RSS but let me remind you that the people of this country now know the reality and that is why the BJP is coming to power in most of the states.
RE:No Excuse Vote Them Out!!
by john on Jan 10, 2008 11:21 AM Permalink
Dear Udit ,People of the country not now the reality but they are influenced by the fanatic and fascist thinking againt the particular communities that is why they choose the groups you mention.
It is an accepted principle of criminal jurisprudence that the punishment should not be disporportionate to the crime. Still the most merciful creator has no qualms in punishing his creations to enternal torture in hell for the crime purported to have been committed in one "life" time!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is the all powerful creator more vengeful than humanbeings???
