I wish good luck to Mr. Modi. But now he has to come good on his 'Large-Heartedness'. He has to win hearts of muslims who feel utterly alienated at this point of time and show that he truly works for 5 crore gujaratis. If muslims also reap the fruts of development without any fear or insecurity then i bet next time even muslims will vote for him.
Good luck to him!
RE:Modi
by Sam on Dec 24, 2007 10:24 PM Permalink
BJP and Modi both are neither anti-muslim nor they have any so called "horrifying agenda" as talked by Congi comics. But if congis are hell bent on dividing communities to garner votes and play deep politics, BJP has every right to woo hindus as much as possible. And that is only possible if they either stay away from muslim areas and show that they don't care about muslims. But the reality is that BJP has provided riots and curfew free gujarat. There are more muslims now who own restaurants and shops in hindu dominated areas and vice verca today in ahmedabad than before. My family actually goes to restaurants on sunday which are owned by muslim brothers. So muslims should put down congi tactics and should vote for modi.
RE:RE:Modi
by GOBIND HOTCHANDANI on Dec 24, 2007 10:35 PM Permalink
very well said mr.vohra. i am sure that being a smart politician and a compassionate human being, mr.modi will surely listen to your voice of reason and create a gujarat where each and every gujarati manas, irrespective of his religion, color, caste or occupation will benefit from his development programs and benefits of the rogress reach all segments of our society!! let us unite to make gujarat a true and real example of harmony, happiness and prosperity all around so that our children for generations to come are proud for the legacy we leave behind....jaiHind!!
RE:Modi
by SANJAY RAO on Dec 24, 2007 10:16 PM Permalink
there should be no heart-winning. congress is already doing that. Hope Modi will be different from Congres. I do not understand why all muslim want that government should win their hearts. what is in their heart - only hatred to other religions and no respect for our mother land.
RE:Modi
by mohammedi vohra on Dec 24, 2007 10:25 PM Permalink
In case u didnt get it. Winning heart does not mean showering goodies. Winning heart means create a condusive environment where even muslims can feel confidant, secure and reap fruits of development. and sanjay rao, stop ranting about how all muslims are gaddars and ur the only one carrying the light of patriotism.
RE:Modi
by pradeep hooda on Dec 25, 2007 12:21 AM Permalink
mr vohra but can u tell me any college or anyother institution refused to give addmission to muslim guys
RE:Modi
by Kamlesh on Dec 24, 2007 10:42 PM Permalink
Mr..Vohra...i am fully supportive of the fact that muslims also should get the fruit of development. But...u must agree that..muslims in this country also have to stop...asking for seperate treatment....the problem is that muslims...get together to vote for that party which promises them dreams...or which works on appeasement policy.....If there is any favouritism towards majority, u should oppose it..but please stop asking for favours by calling urself minority community...this is a democracy..everyone should have equal rights..whether its hindu, muslim,sikh or christian..we hindus just want that...but..ur voting pattern to favour parties like congress which is willing to fall to any level to get votes makes us, mistrust u ppl....Believe me in this country muslims will also get the same rights as any other community..please try to follow following things..as first few steps
1.educate ur children .... 2.try to follow birth control.. lil bit..which can help u provide better quality of life to ur family.. 3. Show little tolerance for other religions.. 4. Mix with other religions..without any bias.. We know there are subtle differences in each religion, but should not make u forma seperate group..away from others...
this discrimination is a mix of factors of past and present.
most of the muslims who have adopted islam in india were from communities who were doing manual labour in earlier days.
and then, after independence also, their education level has not improved vastly.
compare this with education of some smaller,more cloely knit communities like ismailis, daudi voras, jafri momins etc. they have done much better compared to other muslims.
unless muslims try to improve their education levels, they will feel discriminated (and congress enjoys it).
hindus in gujarat feel that congress is favouring muslims, but peronally i feel that congress has done nothing form muslims except using them as vote banks and keeping them backward.
RE:Modi
by mohammedi vohra on Dec 24, 2007 10:47 PM Permalink
Donald Duck,I'll give a point-by-point reply
-That means u tacitly agree that there IS discrimination. I'd say more than discrimination this is a deep phobia of muslims in heart of hindus. Thanks to Hate mongering by likes of VHP, Bajrang dal.
-Ur point about majority of muslims belonging to "communities doing manual labour" can open can of worms. reservations, OBS...lets not go into that.
-Education: could not agree more,
-ismailis, dawoodi voras are tiny, close knit communities who mostly keep to themselves. Unfortunately they are the hardest hit during times of disturbances. -
RE:Modi
by Rajeev Khare on Dec 24, 2007 11:00 PM Permalink
mohammedi vohra, You appear to be a sensible person. I request you to to ask the clerics to pass fatwa that muslims must not rejoice defeat of India in sports, must not shelter terrorists from Bangladesh and Pakistan, must get their children educated not in madrasas but in modern schools.
Develop sports economy. It makes economic sense. What better a profession than being a sportsman ? You are paid to stay fit and in shape, you become popular, you live a healthy life, you get a lot of time to have fun, and earn good money, and be a good citizen. Sports economy in the USA is worth $1 trillion to economic output annually.
Interesting stats
Olympic Gold medals won by country since 1896 to 2007 overall
USA 896 USSR 395 Italy 182 France 184 Sweden 142 China 112 India 9
Amazingly these very countries also are developed and citizens are richer as compared to bottom countries in Olympics medal table.
RE:Unite India through Sports
by Confused Mind on Dec 24, 2007 10:40 PM Permalink
There is nothing called 'Hinduism', as it is not an 'organized religion' whose failure was realized in Europe when 'renaissance' happened they became secular and in America with their 'constitution' and Jefferson's writings. The Chinese and Japanese where always secular in their life & approach. The similarities of all these thoughts can also be found in the Upanishads. Unfortunately, Islam could not break free of the shackles of organized religion which the West could as they had the influence of the Greeks. The Far East nations had the influence of Confucious, Buddha, Lao-Tzu & even Communism. Hence, there is nothing to convert to; as the whole progressive world is secular and follows Uniform Civil Code. Every developed country in the world is secular and follows one-law and the best practices across imaginary organized religions, genders, and all other time-wasting divisions. Religion is One. Human Body, Mind, Human Spirit & Human Creativity, Gender Equality are the only religious attributes worth pursuing. Rest are all questionable and wasting one's energy and destroying oneself. Muslims (not generalizing as people have not chosen their religion) need to understand that their religion has caused them more harm than good. The earlier they break free of their self-righteous, status-quo mentality, and accept Uniform Civil Code, the more they will benefit and progress and will join the great creative force of humanity and enjoy life in general. This will end the untold misery
RE:Unite India through Sports
by ROMESH KUMAR on Dec 25, 2007 12:38 AM Permalink
Please change your ID. You are not confused mind but really brilliant. Keep it up please.
RE:Unite India through Sports
by GOBIND HOTCHANDANI on Dec 25, 2007 12:19 PM Permalink
sir, pls change your id to "reality mind" kudos to you, as you have said something which has touched evrybody's heart and feelings. thank you so much. your idea is a novel idea and it will surely work if applied properly. keep contributing such creative thinking...highly obliged sir!!
RE:Unite India through Sports
by Samosachat on Dec 25, 2007 05:17 AM Permalink
Jalaludin That will be great. but In India people dont even have a decent track to do jogging. Most of the public park tracks are occupied by stray dogs and monkeys. Sports is great . Some how we should encourage people to play volly ball, tennis etc in addition to cricket. At least it is good for their mental and physical health.
Modi's victory is first a slap for most medias and then on UPA's face. media must understand that we know they dont just rpert news but fabricate and make News. They must stop this or they will face the wrath of Indian Public!
RE:Modia and Media
by Gummadivally MuraliKrishna on Dec 24, 2007 10:32 PM Permalink
all psephologists and their 'SCIENTIFIC STUDIES' of voting patterns are nothing but paid brokerage from thier political parties and their on political inclinations.the worst kind of pseudoseculars and left intelectual(so called) projections is a big farce and proved beyond point once again. Let this be stopped once and for all.
RE:NDTV and Prannoy Roy are Unadulterated Evil
by anna on Dec 24, 2007 11:24 PM Permalink
very well said. pronoy roy ran a campaign of hatred against modi.by electing modi as cm, the patriotic people of gujrat has spitted on the face of pronoy roy. stop watching ndtv as it donot report news but fabricate false reports as news.
RE:NDTV and Prannoy Roy are Unadulterated Evil
by Gummadivally MuraliKrishna on Dec 24, 2007 10:39 PM Permalink
these guys are pseudo sceintists and psudo secularists backed by their marxist friends . They should be left and the channel should be thrown in the dust bin for giving false information time and again in the garb of freedom of press and in thier unscientific voting pattern studies. At least they should be asamed of doing this now and apologise to the nation for continously giving stupid and false information. Just because they own a tv channel it does not mean that they can bark like dogs.
People of Gujarat have slapped all the so called secularists and opportunists once again. Now what the media, the dissidents, the congress said is all irrelevant. They are not going to learn lesson and we have to learn to ignore them. Now is the time for Modi to build even better Gujarat. The people are with him. He has tamed the bureaucracy- the usual bottleneck on the road to progress. He has no detractors left in BJP and congress is back to its place. So He has everything going for him to build Gujarat of future. All the best to Modi. We are with you.
RE:Its time to build even greater future
by You yourself on Dec 24, 2007 10:06 PM Permalink
With CMs like Narendrabhai, Gujarat should become superior to western countries in most respects within a decade or two.
Not only Good governance paid off in Gujarat by Modi, But also The Media (AllMedia) who oppose Modi/BJP without any reson since from last6'th month help Modi/BJP to win this election, Because pepole are fed up with media. Every morning TOI ahmedabad issue write one article against modi since from last 6'th month and all TV channel at least telecast some thing against Modi, I surprise Why BJP not attact Media, Who bow down after election.
Hello, Evry true Indian must be happy for the results but Modi has to work hard abd raise beyond, caste, colour and creed to become the PM of India. he must not follow Hindutva or pseudo secularism like Sonia and her clownish leaders...he must follow pure secularism and win the hearts of Billion Indians. A Govt which once refused entry of Modi must beg Modi for investment opportunities in India and Modi should slap her face with an answer "NO". Victory is not permanent and the results should not go to his head! he must work hard as we want him to be the PM of India.
you have taken crores of rupees from congress and give false statement but god has given the right choice .do not do in future.your image will go.i hate media telling false message and do not run media .you are not for public only for political people
first his orgainzation (which most likely is no more than 3 persons) claims to represent 98 organizations. excuse me, but is an impossibility, a thingy that only a fraudulent guys would claim. if you think that isn't a giveaway, look at his gratuitious message.
hinduism reformed, christianity reformed, budhism reformed, judaism reformed but islam still lives in 6th century......this is what creating problems with islam in today's world.....
