India is a country where there is no end to hatred. Either Hindu vs Muslim or North vs South or fighting in the name of language, caste (Dalit hatred) and culture. Truth is India loves fighting. India needs to change. End of the day nobody helps us . We need to help ourselves
RE:India needs to change
by Brendan DeCruz on Dec 23, 2007 08:51 PM Permalink
Ranveer.. You you just nailed it... Sadly,we Indians are like that... be it religion or caste or community or anything we are always ready to take up cudgels and fight...... and I place the blame squarely on each and every one of us!!!!!including myself...
RE:India needs to change
by Donald Duck on Dec 23, 2007 08:54 PM Permalink
i agree that it exists in india.
but, sensitivity to such issues is not new. germans did that, yugoslavia has done it and a lot of other countries too.
in fact, india is much better comparatively in managing internal conflicts compared to sri lanka, pakistan, bangladesh, afghanistan, iraw and many other african countries.
RE:India needs to change
by Raja Krsnan on Dec 23, 2007 09:34 PM Permalink
Narendra Modi can initiate the change as most Hindus by now have faith in this one man who delivers what he says or promises. Its a matter of time he will replace Advani as PM. And which is good for the country in every aspect. Yes, Modi is the engine for change for Hindus.
it very unfortunate that muslims still says they are in minority.......i wuld like to tell them they have more pupulation in india then any muslim country alone in the world....and in those county whs the state of hindus is very well known......to us...if not they shuld first try to rectify that....here they have mosque...which are in good shape...where as in anyother muslim country.....i dont know......if they havae even a single temple.....why muslims always say...they are in minority....i bed to differ..... To stp all this ninsense...common civil code shuld be implememnted......and priority shul be given to the person and his qualification rether than which cast he belongs to.....govt shuld stop asking in the addmission form ..the caste ....to start with....... i hopw BJP will prosper and do a good job...in gujrat...and rest of india.
RE:stop blaming our own religion..........this country belongs to all.....
by Raja Krsnan on Dec 23, 2007 09:36 PM Permalink
Narendra Modi is the only person who can bring about a change amongst Hindus. He is honest and a man of integrity. He is the only person i hope who can make common civil code a reality.
Its not about Appeasement towards the minority, its about Modi's policy towards minority. A Question ? What if u were living in some other country since birth and take it as your home country and that country akes you as a intruder and its policy try to kick your a*s? Think over!!! My question is people know Modi has a hatred towards minority but still brings him in power so wat can you say about this? I guess people have forgotten Gujrat 2002 ? Havent They? People have been fighting for 1400 years and they will do so, but there are many who cant stay on their knees for a long time. But there are people who are fighting and waiting for the justice and TRUTH WILL PREVAIL ON FALSEHOOD.
RE:Playing Modi - Moda
by Raja Krsnan on Dec 23, 2007 09:45 PM Permalink
People have put behind what happened in 2002. You cannot carry dead bodies for eternity. Happened is happened. If everybody start carry this baggage of hatred, then Hindus should seek revenge for what moghul rulers unleashed on the hapless hindu population at that time. Yes Devendra. Truth Prevailed. Falsehood is not able to change the course of history today. Falsehood used media to paint Modi dirty. They were busy digging grave for Modi, fogettting that whoever digs grave for another, will fall into it. Precisely this is what happened to the so called secularists who are the real enemies of the people of India. I hope if Modi becomes PM instead of Advani, it will be the beginning of the golden age of modern India. He knows how to make India a happening place. If Modi was always thinking or plotting against muslims as they think, gujarat would not have been a prosperous place. Business would have left it long ago. Even muslim business men were doing well under Modi regime which is a fact. Muslims should learn to live in peace with others. That is the message of this election.
RE:Playing Modi - Moda
by Sudhir Dixit on Dec 23, 2007 09:53 PM Permalink
No country would allow you to attack their majority people. And moreover thet have not started living in India,they are indians but still don't consider them indians.
RE:Playing Modi - Moda
by Brendan DeCruz on Dec 23, 2007 08:46 PM Permalink
Very Sad that rediff is encouraging discussions on such sensitive issues.... come on folks.. verdict is Modi is the man in charge and there is nothing anyone can do about it....
RE:RE:Playing Modi - Moda
by Vivek Vikram Sridharan on Dec 24, 2007 12:22 AM Permalink
See muslims are treated like that because many of them support pakistan and other muslim countries. I think hindus have lost faiht on muslims, the godhra was nothing but a ticking timebomb that exploded. you can't call it a lonely incident. modi is very minimally involved in it. hindus might have just vented out their long standing grudge. im saying this because i have seen this in hyderabad. there used to be lot of hindu muslim clashes. hindus are traditionally pacifist . though hindus have numerous temples religion in our life is strictly in dharmic lines. our traditions and superstitions does not affect any other civilizaiton or anything. parsis / christians are also non hindus. do you hear anything about them ? why only muslims? not because they are bad but they are hugely manipulated in the name of religion and tradition. if you see how much islam has changed the landscape of north africa and syria persia , babylon and still couldnt dent India, you will know how resilient is hindu dharma. hindus are no longer pussies and won't let others bully us.
RE:Modi Does Not Visit Dargah
by manoharan palani on Dec 23, 2007 08:49 PM Permalink
absolutely., But our fellow countrymen forgets that the congress is running the show in the country on the mantra of the Britishers. Just divide and rule, i feel that majority will always live in peace and tranquility until and unless disturbed by minorities.. None of the congressmen ever raised voice for the thousands of kashmiri Hindus but they will surely raise their voice for a Muslim like afzal guru... secularism........fake secularism.....
Muslims expectations are strange. I think that is because of the pseudo secular politicians. Has Afzal Kadiwala (in this report) visited any temple in his lifetime? Why should a Hindu visit a dargah?
RE:RE:Modi has never visited the dargah
by super success on Dec 23, 2007 08:40 PM Permalink
hindus are tolerant people so god gave us the vast land than pakistan we are progressing and look at pakistan where it is. now got the answer mahesh
RE:RE:Modi has never visited the dargah
by devendra PANDEY on Dec 23, 2007 08:46 PM Permalink
Well ..there is a reason..We are united ..And pakistani's are divided on many issues Issues like ( Silly Fatwa by Silly People who even doesnt know what Fatwa means , Politicians of Pakistan US Suck**g Guns , Keeping Bomber Pets and then they bark and bomb you)But now i guess India have to be carefull.
RE:RE:RE:Modi has never visited the dargah
by Mahesh on Dec 23, 2007 08:46 PM Permalink
You are being ridiculous and not answering my question. God and religion are personal matters and every one should respect that.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Modi has never visited the dargah
by ARYAN PUNJABI on Dec 23, 2007 09:06 PM Permalink
Modi is Hindu by religion.He is at liberty to practise Hinduism.Why one should expect him to go to Church or Mosque unheartedly ? He is not disrespecting other religions by not going to their place of worship.Is he or anybody bound to do so ? If it is personal then let it remain personal.Why is it being dragged to be public ? HE IS NOT A PRETENDER.
Politicians who do so and go to the place of worship of other than their own are pretenders, opportunists and vote hungry.
RE:Modi has never visited the dargah
by super success on Dec 23, 2007 08:50 PM Permalink
i know going to dargah is there personal matter but ask any hindu they will go to dargah that shows that we are god fearing whether in any form and god has given us every good thing in our life
RE:Modi has never visited the dargah
by Brendan DeCruz on Dec 23, 2007 08:41 PM Permalink
OK.. GUYS... enuf of these useless arguments.. Verdict : Modi has won...He is the man in charge....the earlier we all accept that the better.....
RE:Modi has never visited the dargah
by ARYAN PUNJABI on Dec 23, 2007 08:47 PM Permalink
You rightly said,their strange and one-sided expectations are the root cause of all their problems all over the world.But they do not want to understand that.It is just like a pig feels happy in living in the mud.
RE:Modi has never visited the dargah
by sandeep brahme on Dec 23, 2007 08:49 PM Permalink
is it compulsary for nay one in this country to visit mosque.....wuld like to ask has any of the cleriks from mosque ever in histroy visited any temple.......no.....then why thsi people expect that modi shuld visit dargah......stop this.....man we are leaving in free country.....
RE:RE:Modi has never visited the dargah
by super success on Dec 23, 2007 08:52 PM Permalink
but why we should expect the same from them atleast we know we are happy to indian are the people happy in pakistan my answer is no because no development and full of hatred
RE:Modi has never visited the dargah
by javed on Dec 23, 2007 08:43 PM Permalink
you are rightly said mahesh like afzal kadiwala ignorance about his our religion principles we are seeing these days
If muslims understand they are minority and respects majority and accepts it as a Hindu land, like many Hindus living abroad sincerely accepts that they are minority and follow the rules of land and honor the majority, things will improve for them too.
They should stop believing the vote bank politics and learn to be one among the others rather than expecting a special treatment. No other country gives special treatment to minority. OK, I understand we need to be leader. If we have to become leader then we need to set an example being different than others and need to be path finder rather than following someone else. But as far appeasing minority is concerned we failed. We didnt get any benefit out of it. It only helped politicians. It didnt help neither minority nor majority. It didnt help even building nation. It only divided us.
So stop appeasing minority and vote bank politics. It helps all (both Hindus and Muslims).
How come Congress only allocated 5 seats to be contested by muslims? By the way, does any muslim leader from Congress or MIM visit a temple? It was only Kalam who used to visit temples and Congress didn't like him to be the president again. They wanted someone who visited Indira Gandhi and cooked for her to be the president.
it is utter nonsense that muslims dont get proper jobs or education in gujrat.The criteria for getting jobs and admission into schools and colleges is the same for all the community. U will get the job and the admission if u have the right skills and merits, no matter what ur religion is. I can guarantee this on behalf of Modi that if u really deserve the job or the admission to school/college then u come fwd. and show it to all of us by means of ur qualification certificates.Then and then only u point finger at Modi.
BJP is working for Hindus. But it's not dangerous for Muslims.But Congress is treating us it's VOTE BANK to the Muslims.What we gain from Congress in 50 years after independence??? So INDIAN MUSLIMS BEWARE OF CONGRESS PARTY no BJP.
