its very simple, the majority wanted modi to rule gujarat. that majority also includes all religion. thats all. why do you waste time in just abusing each other? instead lets hope and pray total peace in the state of gujarat and in our country. muslims are also born in india and they are all indians. dont split this country by religion.
My only request you is to not blindly hate muslims. Hindus are very peace loving people but a few communal parties are playing games to divide people and rule which will not augur well for India. High time people realize that peaceful co-existence is the only way ahead
RE:My Humble Request!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 11:44 AM Permalink
U Moron cannot think anything beyond any political parties. Why u always think like a Politician why not like a Human..
RE:My Humble Request!!
by human on Dec 24, 2007 12:15 PM Permalink
You are pointing to communal parties on one side and saying hindus are peace loving. Hindus are always peace loving but probably time has come that muslims realise this to live in peaceful coexistance.But as you have realised hindus are peace loving, let this message be spread across.
RE:My Humble Request!!
by Avinash on Dec 24, 2007 11:45 AM Permalink
Mr.Ismail Sayyed, have you still not stopped your copy & paste job? Take some rest!
All this melodrama of saving hindusim is something which is totally fabricated and fully biased. This fear and insecurity is been built by these RSS among hindus to gain power only. Unfortunatley in india people believe the RSS only which is a rougue organization and which is responsible for killing the Mahatma.
People in india especially hindu's should realise that muslims are not thier enemies and there is solid proof that for hundreds of years Muslims and Hindu's lived side by side in peace and hardmony till the Birth of RSS. And dont forget that India gained indpendence from the british only becuase of the Joint Freedom Struggle of Hindus and Muslims to drive the british out.
This RSS is dividing the country in the name of religion by making fun of Muslims and Islam. Truth will be the winner finally
RE:A Big Melodrama!!
by sunder rajan on Dec 24, 2007 11:42 AM Permalink
i do not how old are u but you please understand mahatma was killed because he partitioned hindus & muslims at first then when the people were getting killed he realised and amended and said if the muslims wants to go pak they can and the rest can stay here this itself is double standard gandhi needed partition but the nehrus to take advantage in politics they changed his mind RSS is never for partition and never wanted partition because at that time there were many muslims in rss . RSS in not a madrasa it is a swayamsevak sangh and does not belong to any religion. RSS does not celebrate any festivals like all others parties in india do . i am the gratest admirer of gandhi but the partition was not needed because of the partition neither pak nor india developed till morarji became prime minister of india.
RE:A Big Melodrama!!
by winkingtiger on Dec 24, 2007 11:45 AM Permalink
I think the politicians are further creating hatred among ppl by concentrating only on minority communities all over india, ecept for gujarat... as sayyed rightly pointed out, we all lived together like brothers for so many yrs... y to favour one brother so suddenly that the other(elder) brother feels left out???
RE:A Big Melodrama!!
by winkingtiger on Dec 24, 2007 11:53 AM Permalink
True.... but how many of the minority community ppl dont want to enjoy these kind of unjust fvours showered upon them???
RE:A Big Melodrama!!
by sunder rajan on Dec 24, 2007 11:53 AM Permalink
that is what i am saying rss is not a political party mahatme was hated by more muslims than hindus at the time of partition. godse act was a personal act the same thing happened to indira gandhi because she wanted divide between sikhs & hindus he sikh killed her due to personal grudge rajiv gandhi got killed he should not have entered sri lankan problem only the congress prime ministers got killed and all the prime ministers from other parties were safe
RE:A Big Melodrama!!
by Bhartiya on Dec 24, 2007 11:44 AM Permalink
Check history before stating anything... When in Indo_China war, Indian soldiers were not able to get food... RSS people made the packets of food and sent them... During plague in Gujrat, even the policemen refused to enter inside cities, those were RSS people who did their last rites... In kashmir there are lot of people who because of pakistan bombarding lost their houses... RSS has tried to provide those people food and shelter.... irrespective of their caste and religion... If one of maulvi kills a great personality, would you criticise whole maulvis.... Dr. Hedgewar started RSS to unite the people and till date RSS is working on its principles... Its congress who never likes others rising in powers and thats why they proclaim them seculars, Just go back to history who started using Hindus and Muslims are seperate.... Were these RSS people or so called Congressmen... including Jinnah... Read history and do good for your nation before its too late
RE:RE:A Big Melodrama!!
by Bharat on Dec 24, 2007 12:54 PM Permalink
Dear Ismail Bhai
Hamari country divide to tabhi ho gai thi jab Congress ne Pakistan banane ki permission di thi. Muslims ki to bohut sari countries hain, Hindu ki kon si country hai? Aaj bhi Hindustan main jahan per muslim majority main hai vahan per hindu nahi rah sakta, lakin jahan per hindu majority main hai vahan per ek muslim perivar bhi aram se rah sakta hai.
Muslim hamesha majority aur minority ki batain kerte rahte hain, kiyoki ve chahte hain ki muslim her jagah per majority main aye aur her jagah unka raj ho.
Jahan tak RSS ki baat hai to veh Muslim desh baghat ko bhi salam karti hai. RSS ko samjhna hai to uske vichar pad ke dekho, congress ki falai hui baton per dhyan mat do.
Truth will be the winner finally, Modi & BJP Sarkar is winner now.
RE:A Big Melodrama!!
by Pradip Khare on Dec 24, 2007 11:39 AM Permalink
It is not the RSS friend because of this mindset of the general people it is because of the following:- All muslims are not terrorist but all terrorist are muslims.
I strongly believe that most of the muslims are as peace loving as general public and terrorists are from outside india.
RE:RE:A Big Melodrama!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 11:47 AM Permalink
ur lot plays politics on terrorist attacks and national issues. u r the real traitors of india. let God give sanity to those who r still fooled by desh drohis like u. first u used to spin on ram mandir and so on which u never built and now u spin on terrorism which i am sure u have no idea how to tackle.
RE:A Big Melodrama!!
by blue leaf on Dec 24, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
Did we really live peacefully? your kings butchered us like dogs and yet we accepted you people into our new dream nation - India. You must have changed by being Indians from the heart but for you always religion is ahead of nation..that is what bothers us. we too want to be part of a true secular india..we will be proud to be in a secular india but as said..claps cant be done with one hand. Be an Indian and we will have no problem if you lead our cricket team or become our president..see how we respect Abdul kalam ji...we hate people if some one talks against abdulk kalam..that is what we expect from you..dont support pakistan and its ISI and dont help them kill us with bombs ...we can live peacefully. All moderate muslims come out and let India know your views..as long as you let these mullahs and terrorists talk on behalf of you..modis will rise and India will get destroyed.Please comeout and join the mainstream..believe that India first - Islam next.
RE:A Big Melodrama!!
by sunder rajan on Dec 24, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
ismail sayeed is better that many stars and educated muslims he is trying secularism the best way by accepting the discussion and not going back to mullahs & not afraid of fatwas kudos to you for doing the best discussion please let shabana azmi dilip kumar mf hussain are more to open their mind for secularism then dividing people. even today the film industry is ruled by khans and they have more than 70% hindu viewers who like them
its a sad but true fact that despite the tehelka expose...which worked to the benefit of facist modi he got re elected reason not development but polarisation of the gujrati community along religious lines which is very dangerous. remember this is the way even hitler ruled for so many years.
RE:modi re-elected
by bobby on Dec 24, 2007 11:39 AM Permalink
Syed Firdaus Ashraf what ever you had written i agree.Now tell me what exactly muslims in India want?Why you always say that we did not get this or that?How many muslims are educated? Why dont you all ask your community people that child bron is not Allah Ki Den.If it is one or two than it is good but if it is 7-98-10 than it is your mistake.Your earning is source of cycle tyre repair job,waiter in hotel,taxi stand helper, mechanic.Means at an average a muslim family earns 150-200 rupees per day & of that they had to feed near about 10 , how can you expect that they can give proper education to their children.Please Mr.Syed Firdaus Ashraf , dont blame modi or BJP for your community failure to stand up in life.If their is riot than why do you all start for onnce.History says never Hindus or any community had started riot anytime.Whether its Godhra,whteher its in hyderabad, Wheteher its Lucknow, Whether its Babri masjid, its you all who start jihad system on name of Allah.Why your community respect & wants other community to respect your religion.?How many muslim leaders had visited Mandir?Why a hindu should visit your Dargha, & you know Mr.Syed Firdaus Ashraf , why Atal ji Lost Election because he visted Dargha?No wonder what ever you all do is right the moment we reply back it is named communal riot.Mr.Syed Firdaus Ashraf,remember the pro babri masjid demolation, hindu women & men were scred of passing through muslim locality because you all had evil eyed.
RE:modi re-elected
by raju on Dec 24, 2007 11:45 AM Permalink
If the so called seclar parties polarise the minority vote and make them vote in block for them, it is very secular, but if the majority votes in block they are communal.... Wah re moula kaise din dekna padraha hai.....
RE:RE:modi re-elected
by Indian on Dec 24, 2007 11:52 AM Permalink
the write who is a muslim should not have written this article in the first place as he is inciting muslims. he does not want peace in gujrat otherwise he should have written something nice & hope for a better future living in India, a future they wouldnt get even in pakistan or bangladesh. that is the only reason these creatures are living here. this country has given lts of love, fame & fortune to muslims - irfan pathan,azza,zaheer, aamir,salman, shah rukh, abdul kalam, so many in diff fields... what has any islamic country done for their minorities? they have oppresses them even more while our country is giving them even more than what they deserve considering they are thankless & always support terrorism..any place where muslim community lives is a terror breeding place... they dont livve in peace & do not let other lives in peace..
RE:modi re-elected
by Govindan on Dec 24, 2007 01:09 PM Permalink
Have you ever thought why it is happening? I will answer the question.It is because the present UPA Govt is playing vote bank politics. 1)There are nearly 52 Muslim countries. Show one Muslim country where minorities are extended the special rights that the Muslims are accorded in India. 2)Show one Muslim country , which has non-Muslim as its President or Prome Minister. Show one Mullah or Maulvi who has declared a fatwa against Islamist terrorists. 3)Do Hindus object when Govt provided seperate space in Govt offices for Muslims to conduct prayer/namaz? 4)When Haj piligrims are given subidy, why Hindu pilgrims to Kailash Manasarovar are denied. 5)Why post- Godhra is blown out of proportion, when no secularist talks of the ethnic cleansing of nearly five lakh Hindus from Kashmir. 6)Why temple funds,generated by devotees are spent for the welfare of Muslims & Christians, when they are free to spend their money in any way they want? Muslims have taken away 30% of Bharat we cannot afford to lose any more land in the name of religion. No Hindu patriot can forget the traumas suffered due to partition. Now what is happening to Malayasian Hindus?We do not want to invite such a situation in Bharat by giving more and more special facilities to Muslims or any religion.
RE:modi re-elected
by vijay ramaswamy on Dec 24, 2007 11:33 AM Permalink
u go to pakistan or bangadesh indian muslima all are converted from hindus only ok
As per the article Afzal Kadiwala says, "Modi has never visited the dargah. It is a stone's throw away from the BJP office but he has never bothered to come. He abhors Muslims. He does not want to be seen in our company."
I want to ask Kadiwala: How many times has he himself visited a Hindu Temple? OR Does he get eqaully mad at Muslims for not visiting Hindu Temples?
WHY DO ONLY HINDUS ARE EXPECTED TO RESPECT ALL RELIGIONS. WHY DON'T MUSLIMS & CHRISTIANS EVER RESPECT HINDUISM?
- I am all for abolishing dictatorship but not when my religion is being attacked & ridiculed at all times by the so called secularists.
RE:Why expect secularism only from Hindus?
by raja Janardhan on Dec 24, 2007 11:42 AM Permalink
we talk on religion only for votebank. when sunami struck everyone irrespective of caste & religion gave helping hands to our people. we are indians. thats all.
RE:Why expect secularism only from Hindus?
by Girish Kashyap on Dec 24, 2007 11:49 AM Permalink
Excellent reply dear Bharatiya,these bloody media is all against Hindus and they are actually dividing the country in the name of Religion.There are lot of Muslims who hail Modi for his development work, why don't they interview them?
RE:Why expect secularism only from Hindus?
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 11:38 AM Permalink
98 % of the Abusers in the Internet are Fanatic Hindus... They just Vomit whatever is taught by Drunkard RSS Gurus...without common sense.. Now tell me who is Intolerant.. This REDIFF message board is a solid proof that there are a lot of GODSEs still Living & Polluting India...
RE:Why expect secularism only from Hindus?
by Shiv B on Dec 24, 2007 11:48 AM Permalink
You are 100% right friend. When others are so particular about their religion why cant we? sometimes i feel sad bcoz our hindus are the ones who visit churches and dargah's (whereas no christian nor muslims visits our temple) in one way it shows that how good we are. but in other way its too dangerous. We have to protect our religion. we should never become weak. JAI HIND
RE:Why expect secularism only from Hindus?
by jawed khan on Dec 24, 2007 11:43 AM Permalink
afzal kadiwala is not a spokesperson of muslim community , ok? they hell with his what he said , we doesnot want modi to visit dargah, its his personal choice, if he comes its fine if he doesn't its again fine? let all leave in peace thats all, the hell with this politics they play and people loke u admire it?
RE:Why expect secularism only from Hindus?
by D C Shaikh on Dec 24, 2007 11:42 AM Permalink
Afzal Kadiwala is not a leader like Modi. whether is visited temples or not than doesnt make any difference. But Modi can make difference.
Let me Correct you on few points that you have mentioned in your article:
1. Modi is Anti Muslim: Modi is njot anti muslim but he is against those who are anti India. dont mix religion with terror. 2. Safety of Muslims: they have been more secure under Modi. after godhra can you site any one incident where muslims have been targeted. 3. Muslims are prospering in Gujrat more than any other state.
Its my request that please dont mix religion with terrorists. Sohrabuddin was not a muslim but a terriorist.
RE:RE:Few Message for Writer of this Article
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 11:42 AM Permalink
there were no terrorists in Gujarat nor are there any terrorists in Gujarat. Its fools like you who think that terrorism is finished by killing some random innocent people who happen to have a religion different from yours. Its our army which is truly fighting terrorists in Kashmir and North-East - not this rag tag army of thugs like Babu Bajrangi , Modi,etc who like to remove foetuses from pregnant women's bodies or burn old men alive.
RE:Few Message for Writer of this Article
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 11:41 AM Permalink
your perception is totally wrong. Don't relate everything to Islam. If people do wrong things, it is not fault of Islam. Anybody who knows Islam won't say a word against it, but it's not everyone's good fortune to know about Islam.
