Dear Ismail... Believe me if you read Veda there is not a single line about holy book Quraan.Because at that time even arab people were not able to communicate to each other.Forget about their civilised world.
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by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 01:22 PM Permalink
For any religion to be pure and authentic, its scriptures should not contain any interpolation, addition, deletion or revision. Moreover the religion%u2019s source of inspiration and direction should be Almighty God. The Qur%u2019an is the only religious scripture on the face of the earth which has been maintained it its original form. All the other religious scriptures, of all the other religions have interpolations, additions, deletions or revisions. The Qur%u2019an has been in the memory of a multitude of people, intact in its original form ever since its revelation, and now there are hundreds of thousands of people who have preserved it in their memory. Moreover, if you compare the copies made by Caliph Uthman from the original Qur%u2019an which is yet present in the museum in Tashkent and in Koptaki museum in Turkey, they are the same as the ones we possess today
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by Sami on Dec 22, 2007 01:34 PM Permalink
in which language sana was written originally? in which language Quraan written originally? which scripture exists without change? if there is change what is that? we can judge who is liar. Quraan is the only scripture wich has not been changed. there is no other scripture having its original form form revlation.
RE:RE:>>>>Ismail Sayyed
by Fantastic on Dec 22, 2007 01:24 PM Permalink
Common Ismail Sayyed!!! rise up to some level. Then you have purely mis understanding about Sanatan Dharama.. Donot act like Dead brain...
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by Sami on Dec 22, 2007 01:30 PM Permalink
then you tell the principles of sanatan dharma. what is the name Hindu connected with sanathan dharma and who gave this name? Who is the god in sanathan dharma?
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by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 01:21 PM Permalink
Hinduism is not the oldest of all the religions. It is Islam which is the first and the oldest of all religions. People have a misconception that Islam is 1400 years old and that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the founder of this religion. Islam existed since time immemorial, ever since man first set foot on this earth. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was not the founder of Islam. He was the last and final Messenger of Almighty God.
RE:>>>>Ismail Sayyed
by Fantastic on Dec 22, 2007 01:22 PM Permalink
What a lie you pepole are. Go and dig the history.Again you are quoting from Dr.Liar. Again you have internet as power.Use it .
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by Sami on Dec 22, 2007 01:27 PM Permalink
if you can tell the correct qoute why dont you tell now? or call him for a challange and fix a day for debate.
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by Fantastic on Dec 22, 2007 02:10 PM Permalink
hahaa!!!! I am afraid one day Islamist will call Yoga and ayurvedic is the science of Islam
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by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 01:25 PM Permalink
All the revelations that came before Quran were only sent for their own people and were to be followed only for a particular time period. Since the Quran is the last and final revelation, it was not sent only for the Muslims or the Arabs but it was sent for the whole of humankind.
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by vivek singh on Dec 22, 2007 01:30 PM Permalink
u all are morons. don't fight. do ur job, and lead a happy life. workout play games and make u fit. if have time, goto mussori, its snowing there, celebrate new yr there.
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by TJ on Dec 22, 2007 02:10 PM Permalink
you are right rocky, there irresponsible morons are mere termites to our country's repute.
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by Sami on Dec 22, 2007 01:25 PM Permalink
Mr. fantastic. what is the time of vedhas? you dont know exactly. what is the medium of communication of vedhas you dont know. vedhas are not in their original form everyone knows. Quraan is in is original language. no one can deny. Arabic is one of the oldest languages existing. Hindi can not survive without arabic and persian words which was brought by arabs for you to help communication.
RE:>>>>Ismail Sayyed
by Fantastic on Dec 22, 2007 01:20 PM Permalink
That's why who is stopping you to read and understand the meaning of Veda. Believe me Hinduism is beyond Veda.. Just read and understand from your point of view not Dr. Liar or Some Xian writer.
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by Fantastic on Dec 22, 2007 01:21 PM Permalink
>>>U read it & Be happy. My dear i have also read their criticism also.. Can u do it.
>>>>Ismail Sayyed I donot think if you read Veda you will no more muslim. I am saying you because Your Dr. Zakir Liar has versed some from Veda and mis represented or mis quoted the version. I simply requested you have the liberty to investigate and understand the meaning before just blindly follow.
I have not abused for it.Go and check it first with your own brain not from the borrowed one.
RE:>>>>Ismail Sayyed
by Fantastic on Dec 22, 2007 01:12 PM Permalink
Regarding my user id like Fantastic it is because i am using readiffmail with this userid long back.Rediff can check it.
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by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 01:14 PM Permalink
see Brother i do not have knowledge about Vedas.. if u want u can search on the net..
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by TJ on Dec 22, 2007 01:17 PM Permalink
ismail is a nice quiet brother. he is a gentleman. he would accept our facts fantastic. i bet. see, he nods his head. he accepts the real bitter facts about his own religion. really nice brother
RE:>>>>Ismail Sayyed
by Fantastic on Dec 22, 2007 01:17 PM Permalink
No since you have abused me then i am writing to you.Just to know why. If you will tell me to read Quraan definately i will and I do have.Absolute i donot require anybody permission.Neither i feel low.
RE:Hi this is copy paste, not my creation
by Mohammed Zameer on Dec 22, 2007 01:44 PM Permalink
Mr. Shreekant, hr is some history of KAABA, the House of Heaven. In Sura 3 Verse 90 Qora%u2019an says %u201CAllah has spoken the Truth, therefore follow the creed of Ibrahim, a man of pure faith and no idolater%u201D. The first house established for the people was at Makka, a Holy place and a guidance to all beings. Qora%u2019an firmly establishes the fact that Ibrahim was the real founder of the Holy Shrine. Prophet Ibrahim built this House for devout worship to one God. But within his lifetime people disobeyed his orders and began to put idols inside the Kaaba. Ibrahim had to clean the House of these idols and of Idle worshippers. He told the people that this was a symbolic house of God. God does not live there for He is everywhere. People did not understand this logic and no sooner had Ibrahim died the people, out of reverence, filled the place with idols again. They thronged to this place annually and worshipped their personal gods, It was over Four Thousand years later that the last of the line of prophet (SA), Muhammad Ibne Abdullah entered Makka triumphantly, went inside the Ka%u2019aba and, with the help of his cousin and son in law Ali Ibne Abi Talib, (AS) destroyed all the idols of Ka%u2019aba with their own hands. At one stage of this destruction of idols, the tallest of the idol Hubbol was brought down after Ali had to stand on the shoulders of the Prophet to carry out God%u2019s orders. The Prophet of Islam was reciting the Verse from the Qur%u2019an %u201CTruth hath come and falsehood hath vanished.%u201D
From ancient time it is being proved that 'Sanatan Dharma ' is suitable for human beings. Jain ,Buddish are daugher of Mahan SANATAN Dharma . It not believe on fight but peace . This SANATANA DHARMA for ever but other religions are for just few yearsssss. Sanatana Dharma is just life style for every human .It is suitable for Hindu ,Muslim ,Jain ,Buddist ,Kristan Who believe peace only .
WHY THE MILITANTS ARE PUT INTO JAIL? PLEASE THROW THEM UNDER A RUNNING TRAIN AT BARABAKI STN.IF I HAVE ABSOLUTE POWER OF THE NATION I WILL DEFINITELY DO IT.
ANSWER: Yes there is Criticism going on in Small Scale but it should happen in a Broad level and should be given enough Media Coverage, so that it will reach the Corners of the World... But the Irony is this type of Criticism is not found in any Community in India, then why you are asking only Muslims to do it...
1) After the Massacre by Mr. Modi, no Gujrathi came out in the Street to condemn the act, instead this Gentleman was elected as a CM..
2) No Christian from India has raised Voice against Mr. Bush for making Millions of People homeless and killing innocents in the Middle East...
So my point is it does.nt matter which group you belong to, when there is something wrong we Indians should Unite to Protest against it... Cheers
RE:why Muslim are shutting their month againist terrirism??.
by Kapil Dev on Dec 22, 2007 01:03 PM Permalink
But Does that mean u kill innocent people offering Namaz or preying to god.
RE:RE:why Muslim are shutting their month againist terrirism??.
by Kapil Dev on Dec 22, 2007 01:05 PM Permalink
Even in 2002 40% Gujratis Voted against Modi. And Majority of them are Hindus
RE:why Muslim are shutting their month againist terrirism??.
by TJ on Dec 22, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
Point no.1 of your is absolutely absurd and indicates your agony and jealousy against an able administrator.
Point no. 2 doesn't pertain to India and hence need not be focussed now.
Additional Point 3 - You comfortably forgot to mention the massacres of Saddam Hussain (who is dead now), Bin Laden, Musharaff, Al Quaeda's and other 193 islamic terrorist actvitists.
You also forgot that your blind policies are thrusting your fellow moslims to take a path that leads to the gates of terrorism and violence which they think will satisfy their Lord.
However, i understand the fire in your belly and the way you are made to cry out high and loud on your inability as you are junked in a felonious situation.
RE:why Muslim are shutting their month againist terrirism??.
by ravi indian on Dec 22, 2007 01:20 PM Permalink
My Dear Ismail
1. It was started by Muslims in Godhra so gentlemen of Gujarat reacted against that incident.(Why you muslims remember only Gujarat Riot after that in 2006 Mau (Uttar Pradesh) riot also happened and in that riot muslims dominated but you and this pseudo secular media, politician.....) 2. Why Christian raise voice against Bush, your answer is in your question, i.e. you have raised the issue of middle east not christians.Why you muslims have soft corner for muslims all around, you muslims are mentally involved in it. This is the reason why you muslims join terrorist group. Your illiteracy is the main point behind you backwardness.
Change your mindset otherwise you have to face major problem in future.
RE:why Muslim are shutting their month againist terrirism??.
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 01:57 PM Permalink
Be it either ways. What should a government do? Try and get the situation under control, immediately, using all the available resources. Using all available resources, find the cause of the incident. If it is a tragedy, provide succor to the bereaved. If it was a conspiracy, hunt down the accused and put them on trial.
What did actually happen? And therein lies the tragedy. All your short-sighted comments about sob-nobody-talks-about-Hindus-being-killed and Muslims-started-it and Muslims-deserve-it and other very similar comments look eerily like a well oiled plan to not discuss the real issue at all.
You can fool some people all the time, all the people some time but not all the people all the time.
RE:RE:why Muslim are shutting their month againist terrirism??.
by Rahul Khanna on Dec 22, 2007 02:06 PM Permalink
You poeple have set your mind first otherwise. People like you will face major problem in Future. Rahul
RE:RE:why Muslim are shutting their month againist terrirism??.
by Rahul Khanna on Dec 22, 2007 02:10 PM Permalink
What do you think some of the news channel and Tahelka bring out the truth is "false". Dont be so cruel. I am hindu and i believe in non-viol. And I know there is no book in the world, or true leader who says that kill the human for just for your religon. Rahul
RE:why Muslim are shutting their month againist terrirism??.
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 02:19 PM Permalink
we cannot justify the killing of innocents through any religion....
however, here the people are not concerned about the people who had died, they are concerned about spreading hatred and defaming other religion
You need to read the correct translation of Veda to understand the underlying meaning of Shruti. If you read any Xian version or Muslim Version of Veda,then you are fool enough to be gullible.
Donot stop or hesitate the other faith's book. If you are Indian then i can only say this is your ancester has written for you.This is Yours Heritage. I do not think you require to Mulla permission to read.
RE:RE:>>SAMI
by Sami on Dec 22, 2007 02:07 PM Permalink
Fantastic. i wanted to know from you what is your meanings only. you tell me the correct translation. you ask me about shruti. i tell what i know. you correct me if i am wrong. Sharuti is the devine sound recording. the cosmic sound waves in which VEDHAS come to world. tell me what is your view of shruti. now do the vedhas in shruti talk about hinduism? do vedhas talk about god with four hands 6 heads and with weaponx? do vedha tell you to pray air water fire? if so where?
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by TJ on Dec 22, 2007 01:12 PM Permalink
hei pakistani engineer, aren't you ashamed of your substandard, barren language. indian's never reassure that they are indians, because they don't have to , its the pakistanis who pose an indian garment with a grimace attitude
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by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 01:01 PM Permalink
dear PLEASE DO NEVER SPREAD HATRED HERE,DO NOT PUT FALSE STATEMENTS,LIES AND FOOLISHNESS,remember we all are humanbeings.remember friend,in India hindu king emperor ashoka killed millions of people after that he repented and kicked hindu religion and embraced budhism.this is history and we all know that
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by JR on Dec 22, 2007 01:09 PM Permalink
You fool...King Ashoka killed thousands of People as being a King not being a Hindu. Any war can result thousands of deaths. You scum, you cannot live happily without deending your religion, that is your weekness.
RE:aw
by TJ on Dec 22, 2007 01:16 PM Permalink
these mughals were on first hand allowed by us to rip off all our precious monuments. they now go on to claim that they are good souls. 17th attempt by gajni moh'mad' is a one among the many filthy mughals...
btw do you have a printed record of ashoka's massacre, you fake religionist?
We have read today's news paper .What was found in Pakistan ,where majority are muslim .They kill their brother in prayer time .If they kill their brother , then they may kill other religion's followers.
"Fortunate are those who were born (and lived) during king Vikram%u2019s reign. He was a noble, generous dutiful ruler, devoted to the welfare of his subjects. But at that time we Arabs, oblivious of God, were lost in sensual pleasures. Plotting and torture were rampant. The darkness of ignorance had enveloped our country. Like the lamb struggling for her life in the cruel paws of a wolf we Arabs were caught up in ignorance. The entire country was enveloped in a darkness so intense as on a new moon night. But the present dawn and pleasant sunshine of education is the result of the favour of the noble king Vikramaditya whose benevolent supervision did not lose sight of us- foreigners as we were. He spread his sacred religion amongst us and sent scholars whose brilliance shone like that of the sun from his country to ours. These scholars and preceptors through whose benevolence we were once again made cognisant of the presence of God, introduced to His sacred existence and put on the road of Truth, had come to our country to preach their religion and impart education at king Vikramaditya%u2019s behest."
RE:hinduism is the true religion
by balaord on Dec 22, 2007 12:57 PM Permalink
"We Arabs olivious of God" - are you refering to pre-Islamic arabia when arabs had a God for each familiy and for each occasion? What is the connection between Vikramaditya and Arabs?when he lived and how arabs and vikram got into contact?
RE:hinduism is the true religion
by Indianking on Dec 22, 2007 01:12 PM Permalink
Yes dear, Hinduism was spread by vikramaditya by his sword up to Southern Europe. the boundry of vikramaditya kingdom was touching up to Turkey.
