i do not think why educated muslim could not hear truth. taslima wrote in her book how funadamentalist, mulla ,& some islamic forces forcefully converted hindus,looted, raped,fired their houses if this work is permitted by allah,or islam then how may call it religious work.this is lajja for islam. please speak me what wrong in her statement.why any muslim educated or non educated could not hear truth.
RE:RE:tasleema book
by Shahryar Pax on Dec 22, 2007 08:31 PM Permalink
The demise of Islam would be rapid if Muslims were not generally illiterate and ignorant of what their scriptures require of them.
Any intelligent person who reads the Qur'an (or the Christian Bible) soon declares himself an apostate.
RE:tasleema book
by Confused Mind on Dec 22, 2007 03:30 PM Permalink
All other religions have the same laws, values and principles except theirs. Organized religion is organized madness. Allowing the presence of other religions means, allowing for better value systems like Uniform Civil Code, freedom for women and gender equality but that scares them. Hence, they always take a self-righteous, aggressive stance, to suppress all other ideas, without allowing for any change from status-quo. Thus, it is basically political corruption of religion hidden under the mask of conversion, majority/minority games, or genocide or threatening people that they abused the prophet.
We need to look into this issue with a differnt view. Everybody oppositing sending back taslima are right, when you consider Taslima as a representative of womens fighting for equality to all females. Even I rate Females superior far above Men. She is the one who can bear all the pain and suffering to give birth to we mens.
But supporting only her because she voiced against the Islam is very pity. The intention of BJP now asking for citizen ship is not because of her work to liberate females.
If our parties were so interested in supporting femaales, ask them to first practice respecting females from their home. India have enough talented females for whome even 50 percentage reservation in election can be made mandatory. Why our political parties implement that first.
Taslima has already asked for the deletion of the controversial lines from her book Dwikhandita. It should be appreciated by all and the controversy should be put to rest. In fact even few muslim leaders like Mr. Madani seemed satisfied and he desired closure of the matter as he was seen speaking on TV news channels. Now what is the problem ? Our politician should be ashamed of themselves, hounding an hapless woman like this. It will be befitting a secular and democratic country like India to allow her to stay in Kolkatta if she desires so. It is time the Bhadraloks of Kolkatta take up her cause and ensure that she gets justice.
RE:TASLIMA , INDIANS WANT YOU TO STAY IN KOLKATTA.
by Confused Mind on Dec 22, 2007 01:05 PM Permalink
Taslima wants justice for women in her religion. But people divert attention from the truth and insight violence. She has only asked for Uniform Civil Code so that the same laws of "gender equality" apply to her religion as well which all other religions in the world enjoy. Rest is all time wasting.
There should be a debate what Taslima Nasrin have write against Islam. I have read Lajja one of her controversial write I found nothing which abouse any religion... Like GADAR film which have nothing against the muslim religion but there is so much hungama made by the muslims.
Mr Idris Ali, a Congress leader and AIMF state president, the prime accused in the violence that rocked Kolkata on Wednesday November 21, 2007 was remanded in police custody on November 25, till November 29, 2007 by a magistrate of Sealdah.
RE:Congress is creating problem, because Muslims are gone way from George Bush love.
by Confused Mind on Dec 22, 2007 12:37 PM Permalink
Taslima has only asked for Uniform Civil Code so that the same laws of "gender equality" apply to her religion as well. Indian commies should be called 'Murkists' they do not have the character or spine as the real 'Marxists' to stand up for the truth.
RE:Congress is creating problem, because Muslims are gone way from George Bush love.
by Navratan Sethia on Dec 22, 2007 02:20 PM Permalink
you comrades please not comment in matter of indian public. we hindu or muslim solve our problem himself. a comrade never be a real indian & indian never be a comrade
So many people are chanting Taslima's name in TV chanels, news papers, web sites, everywhere. We beleive in democracy, we are Indian. But my friends, can someone explain me what do the words 'freedom of expression' means ? Does it mean that I can use abusive words, slangs, lies against anybody whenever I want ? Expressing of opinion and abusing is not the same thing. Would not you mind if someone uses abusive words against your father or mother. If the freedom of expression means, you are not supposed to react, simply keep your mouth shut and digest even if some one is abusing your father or mother or sister or brother or your friend, then I am sorry to say, there is some problem with the word democracy. Muhammad (PBUH) is much more than one's own parents to the Muslims. Why you never try to understand the feeling of Muslims when she abuses Muhammad (PBUH) ? There are millions of writers in Bengal, why none of those are having such kind of problem as she is having ?
RE:Freedom of Expression & Democracy!!
by Biplab Pal on Dec 22, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
Question to my Muslim friend 1) Can you quote from Taslima to show she used abusive language against Islam? 2) But I can quote more abusive language in Quran against Idolators. Then by definition Quran should be banned.
Don't pretend-In these days of internet, Quran, Muhammad or for that matter any other religion and its text has been well exposed. I was even shocked to find support for cast system in Gita-how can on the earth such inhuman system be considered devine!
RE:Freedom of Expression & Democracy!!
by Partha Paul on Dec 22, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
Mr.Sayyeed message sinks of dogmatism.Taslima Nasreen has not abused anybody,even assuming she has,you cannothound her and ask for her head.Fight her leaglly sue her for libel or slandour.However guys like you will never understand democracy,your message indicates that you have an autocratic bent of mind.You guys do not want to accept Unifom Civil Code,why?Please separate religion from state,otherwise muslims like you will have a serious problem in India.
RE:Freedom of Expression & Democracy!!
by Biplab Pal on Dec 22, 2007 12:31 PM Permalink
Quran has more abusive language against Idolators. Should you ban that?
RE:Freedom of Expression & Democracy!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 02:08 PM Permalink
You have mentioned "Quran, a Holy book of the Muslim" as a point of reference. First of all dumbos like you are not worth replying but I can assure you and all readers that there is no such thing in Quran..
I am sure which ever religion you inherited from your parents, surely would be better off without followers like you
MF Husain also should be kept under house arrest... all his paintings to depict hindu gods should be thorwn out... Can he draw such things to his religion...?
Cong should keep this guy also in the same place as taslima
RE:Why not MF Husain
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 22, 2007 03:46 PM Permalink
Such statement is usually thrown by all those who sympathize with fascism coming out of Hindutva forces. Saying, Dont they do it?, & are just mere excuses to carry on and legitimize their own bigoted feelings and sympathies.
RE:Why not MF Husain
by Golden on Dec 22, 2007 11:38 AM Permalink
yes you are right, and those who are praising taslmeema should praise MF hussain as well. we have kept tasleema like our guest for years let us treat the mfhussain too in the same way. in fact i condemn both the people who have nothing to do with the religion. any one who abuses any body else should be punished severly. in Quran it is said, dont abuse other's gods as they might in their ignorance abuse Allah almighty who is their own God too.
RE:Why not MF Husain
by Confused Mind on Dec 22, 2007 12:12 PM Permalink
Taslima has only asked for Uniform Civil Code so that the same laws of "gender equality" apply to her religion as well. Indian commies should be called 'Murkists' they do not have the character or spine as the real 'Marxists'. MF Hussain is dragged into it just to hide the real issue.
RE:BJP is wondered, because Narendra Modi is invited to meeting where discussed how can topple the terrorists.
by Navratan Sethia on Dec 22, 2007 02:23 PM Permalink
please show me any differ in afzalguru,osama, karat-yechurygang,gilani,madani or any antinational or anti indian.they all are working against india from different platform
Doctor Taslima Nasreen must understand that she is at the mercy of politicians and she cannot afford to be politically incorrect and make life difficult for those who are providing her protection.She cannot bite the hand that feeds her.
She has had her stint of residing in the West for number of years and she did not like it.If she is not willing to take a moderate and a muffled stance,she should consider moving to country such as USA,where she should not have difficulty finding asylum,because her's is a genuine case for political asylum based upon religous persecution in her home country.
Though its not going to be like Bangla,the next best place would be California,New York and some other states where there is now a good sized Bangla community and she should feel quite at home.
RE:Be Politically Correct
by pranam on Dec 22, 2007 10:45 AM Permalink
Mir she has not crticised our country In fact she wants to stay here paradox indians want to leave she wants to stay she has not bitten the hand that feeds her Hats off to that lady what guts all alone she has withstood onslaught from all quarters
RE:Be Politically Correct
by Jehan Mir on Dec 23, 2007 12:57 AM Permalink
Freedom of expression is fine,but you have to use this privilege with responsibility,care, tact and respect for the feelings of masses who have nothing to do with the personal plight of Doctor Nasreen.
I understand she has a book coming out in January 2008. The book may contain material which in light of trend or the past writings may be hurtful of Muslim feelings, not only in India but the World over.
This may cause demonstrations,blood shed,loss of life or upheaval in India,creating serious problems for politicians.You cannot bite the hand which protects your life.
Muslims do not make fun of other religions ,even though lot can be said about the absurdities,inequities caused by other religions. Show me one book written by a Muslim author injuring the feelings of followers of the other religions.Why should Muslims be target of ridicule through,farce,misreprsentation by those,who do not fully comprehend the beauty,values or the way of life propounded by their religion.
I do not see freedom of expression exercised by Dr Nasreen in writing books on injustices caused by other religions,though granted she might have been slighted personally more by her own religion than others.If she is truly interested in overhauling the system or doing a public service,she should address the menace caused by other religions,instead of brandishing Islam.
exposed. They do not want to support Taslima coz she has written some truths about girls/ladies in muslim communities, but go all the way in supporting MF Hussain coz he degrades Hindu gods/godesses. Be consisten atleast support both of them or oppose of them. Freedom of expression applies to Taslima also not just to MF hussain. These china loving animals must be kicked out of the country into China.
